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Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, January 25, 2008, 10:30pm
Dr. D'Adamo has posted a new calculator to help people determine whether the BTD or GTD would be a better approach for meeting their health objectives.

A few people on this forum have suggested that they felt better on the BTD before switching to the new genotype diet. I wondered if these were they same people that the calculator determines would be better served using the BTD approach.
Posted by: Gumby, Friday, January 25, 2008, 10:37pm; Reply: 1
It recommended the btd for me, but I am feeling better on the gtd.  I only had a couple of yeses on the quiz.  
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, January 25, 2008, 10:41pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from C_Sharp
Dr. D'Adamo has posted a new calculator to help people determine whether the BTD or GTD would be a better approach for meeting their health objectives.

A few people on this forum have suggested that they felt better on the BTD before switching to the new genotype diet. I wondered if these were they same people that the calculator determines would be better served using the BTD approach.

I did well on the BTD but I sense that I am doing even better on the GTD, and this is virtually what my results suggest on the new calculator.What a genius is our Dr D.!
Jenny-peaceful Warrior 8)

Posted by: Brighid45, Friday, January 25, 2008, 10:43pm; Reply: 3
I'm still sorting things out on the GTD and will be for some time--personalizing the food plan is going to take a while--but already I can feel a difference, a change for the better. I miss the BTD because it's familiar, but the GTD just *fits* somehow, in ways the BTD didn't for me.
Posted by: Gumby, Friday, January 25, 2008, 11:14pm; Reply: 4
I just said in another thread that the things that the GTD is helping me with are much more specific than the items that are in the quiz.  They are fine tuning kinds of things, but they are making a dramatic difference for me.  So I am not surprised that the BTD is recommended, but I KNOW that the GTD is where I belong. ;D
Posted by: +Aan, Friday, January 25, 2008, 11:19pm; Reply: 5
I'm still sorting it out. I'm not compliant on either but am striving. I'm doing better on Geno though!...Aani
Posted by: +Aan, Friday, January 25, 2008, 11:22pm; Reply: 6
Gumby- after 10 minutes of laughing so hard I thought I was going to be tossed out of the house...Don't dare take that off!...Aani
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Friday, January 25, 2008, 11:36pm; Reply: 7
I still will persue the GTD, even tho I don't think I feel better. The hunter diet is so similar to O nonnie anyway (altho there's a chance I may be a gatherer).
There are other things going on in my life along with a bad cold wave, so I'm not quite sure what's up.

I also have confidence in Dr. D that this GTD is a step better that BTD as there is more research & the blood type is considered in one's GT.
Again, Dr. D., thanks for your hard work & helping so many people out there.
S S & L,
Mrs "T"  O+
Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 12:16am; Reply: 8
I will check out the new calculator, but I need to give more time to the GTD before I know which one is better for me. Too soon for me to vote.
Okay, I did the calculator, twice, each time different because of the answers not clear yeses or nos, and both times it overwhelmingly recommended the genotype diet. So that's what I've been shifting over to lately. Will have to wait at least a few more weeks.
I did great on the btd, but found the Ononnie diet a wee restrictive. Fingers crossed.
I know it will all work out great for me one way or the other, I'm so far ahead of where I was pre-Dr. D! :)
Posted by: Mercedes, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 1:36am; Reply: 9
Mrs T O+ If you are O+ and female the only measurement that matters is your finger lengths so I am not sure why you are worried about your leg measurements (sorry for the lack of puntuaction something is seriously wrong with my keyboard)
Posted by: Drea, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 1:48am; Reply: 10
I took the quiz and answered yes to three choices. A solid bar on GTD, and no bar on BTD, which makes sense since I'm feeling so much better on the GTD, and I'm not hungry all the time like I used to be.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:30am; Reply: 11
I really enjoyed the calculator. Thanks Dr. D.  I think the Genotype is more fine tuned than the blood type diet, for instance, chicken was neutral on the BTD but an avoid on the Genotype for me, and I always had an intolerance to chicken.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:46am; Reply: 12
Diana,
you might want to add your gt to your signature!
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 3:07am; Reply: 13
I would much rather have the reasoning behind the test spelled out, so I can read it and decide for myself, rather than just answering these questions.  BTD was recommended to me by a slight margin, but when I changed the answer to the food allergy question to no, GTD won considerably.

I am feeling better on the GTD than on the BTD, but it isn't a fair comparison because I am more compliant to the serving suggestions of the GTD than I was in the BTD.  In the BTD, I was more focused on simply avoiding the avoids, but my mindset changed while reading GTD, and I may be feeling better simply because I'm eating more vegetables and less meat/dairy.
Posted by: mikeo, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:47am; Reply: 14
Going through some sort of gluten withdrawal symptoms on my new hunter diet but otherwise love the new beneficial food choices I have....first time I bought millet, buckwheat and Quinoa (makes a great couscous like dish) and along with rice make up my carbs ...I do miss my spelt bread but it's a black dot avoid....used to have a slice everyday but now i don't. Loving cranberry juice and curry and turmeric are nice spices. I love chick peas and I'm allowed some hard cheeses now which I miss on the BTD since I am from an Italian background and grew up eating them. Lemon and lime are sprucing up my salad dressings now. With chocalate being a super beneficial I have to control myself because i am a dark chocaholic. The only thing I am curious about is nutritional yeast
Posted by: Kristin, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 5:10am; Reply: 15
Mine comes back BTD. Quite strongly too. Hmmmm.... so now what to do....  ??)
Posted by: Jenny, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 5:16am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Kristin
Mine comes back BTD. Quite strongly too. Hmmmm.... so now what to do....  ??)

Hey Kristin, what a dilemma. Does your gut feeling or your head come into this decision? I would not know what to do.
Keep us informed

Posted by: shells, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 12:15pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Kristin
Mine comes back BTD. Quite strongly too. Hmmmm.... so now what to do....  ??)


This is how mine came out too!....and I haven't even tried the GTD as yet as my book has not arrived over here as yet!  It should be here in 4 days time.  I had mostly yes answers except for weight, hunger, thyroid & hypertension.  I tend to be slightly underweight with low blood pressure....

Any comments   ::)

Cheers   :)
Posted by: ruthie, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 1:22pm; Reply: 18
This is so awesome.  The GTD rated a high margin against the BTD.  I am feeling better, which I thought that I was already feeling pretty good for my age.
DrD is truly a great thinker and scientist.
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: famlovpc, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:04pm; Reply: 19
Hello, everyone! I justgot the ebook yesterday! I can't stop reading it.It recommended BTD, but the BTD never really did it for me, 100%. This, the Teacher Diet, looks like it's bang on. The foods are what I love and have craved. I can't wait to get back on track with my health. After reading the TeacherDiet and excercise regimen, I was saying-"Yeah...That's what I need!"I've been asking, "GTD, where have you been all my life?" I have no doubt it'll do wonders. Bye for now!
Posted by: 260 (Guest), Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:11pm; Reply: 20
The quiz reccomended the BTD for me, however, I've been on the GTD for about 2 weeks now and the constant hunger I used to have has disappeared and I actually know what it feels like to be full now..so I'm sticking with the GTD...I was never fully able to get where I wanted to on the BTD..so time will tell :O) and hopefully the GTD will clear up the remaining issues I have...I also went through a heavy duty detox the first 10 days..so that tells me my body sees the GTD foods as higher quality
Posted by: 1586 (Guest), Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:53pm; Reply: 21
Mine came back with two lines for GT which rather surprised me as the only question I answered with Yes was the weightloss one.  I thought the GT was mainly meant to address the medical problems which I don't really have.  Only been on it a week so too soon to tell very much but as it is so similar to the O secretor I'm not really expecting a lot.  Can someone please repeat how to add genotype to profile?  I couldn't see where to do it.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, January 26, 2008, 2:53pm; Reply: 22
I guess I have been following the gtd for a couple of weeks at about 75% compliance.  Now I think after all this constant rain in CA, I am getting sick.  Really stuffed up nose/head and feeling pretty
down.  I am going to spend some time rereading the gtd book and making some compliant soups.

I am wondering from my old "zone" days, about the amount of arachidonic acid in the gatherer plan.
It seems like it may be a bit heavy, with the dairy and turkey.  Not sure if this makes sense, but I think I will make sure to take a flax/borage oil to see if it helps.  I seem to be retaining more water,
bloated sort of and puffy.  Not really sure what's going on.  Suspect the dairy though, which I was loving.  May just revert back to the btd and follow it strickly for a bit..... ;)

I just did the calculator and the btd came out as higher, so I think I may just do it for a while......
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:00pm; Reply: 23
I am so very happy that Dr. D put this quiz on the BTD Home page !!!!!  :) ;) :P ;D 8)

I scored way big for the BTD.

Now I can have my banana, yogurt, walnuts, more cheese, more fish I like, blueberries, eggs, butter and milk.  I feel better just reading about this.

But the best part of all, I can continue to refuse to eat chicken and tell people it is a legitimate reason because it is an avoid on my diet.


(sunny)(clap)(dance)
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:13pm; Reply: 24
OK Ė Iím confused.  I put a survey up by blood type, but my comments got added to the end of this one.  Is that because the surveys were similar?  I was curious by BT which diet seemed to suit the people.
:o ??)
Posted by: Lloyd, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:23pm; Reply: 25
I'm more curious by GT which diet is more suitable but decided to let this poll go for awhile first. (think) Maybe both can be done if the polls are clearly delineated.
Posted by: AnutLisa, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:30pm; Reply: 26
That test was very helpful... especially for someone like me who is looking at it with a moderate amount of trepidation.   :-/
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:31pm; Reply: 27
I'm really happy for this survey giving me the answer I was
looking for. It's what I suspected all along.  The BTD is far better for me than the Genotype diet. And I'm glad I trusted my gut
instincts. The type A diet worked great.  And this is where I'll
stay.  Happily eating like a type A again~
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:32pm; Reply: 28

Quoted from 1586
Can someone please repeat how to add genotype to profile?  I couldn't see where to do it.


It's in Edna's "Suggestion" sticky thread: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1199824036/

Posted by: Kristin, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:34pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from RedLilac
OK Ė Iím confused.  I put a survey up by blood type, but my comments got added to the end of this one.  Is that because the surveys were similar?  I was curious by BT which diet seemed to suit the people.
:o ??)


I was going to vote in your poll RedLilac, and then it was gone so I thought you had deleted it.

You could try posting it again as it would be interesting to see the results per blood type.

Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 4:46pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from Kristin


I was going to vote in your poll RedLilac, and then it was gone so I thought you had deleted it.

You could try posting it again as it would be interesting to see the results per blood type.



I'll try again, but if it doesn't work this time, I'll give up.
Posted by: SquarePeg, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 8:08pm; Reply: 31
I've not been 100% compliant on either.  But I think the BTD benny beef is better for me than the GTD superfood turkey.  The latter makes me drowsy.  OTOH, I like the GTD recommendations of honey and maple syrup, because if I don't have something sweet, I occasionally binge on much worse foods!  And like the GTD recommends, I think I should cut out soy.  Maybe I am a nonnie?

I wish I could get sliced roast lamb at the deli instead of roast beef.  That would be great!
Posted by: jeanb, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 10:48pm; Reply: 32
I am a hunter, but I am finding the BTD Nonnie diet works better for me.  I have tweaked the nonnie to absolutely no grain under any circumstances even brown rice gives me stomach pains and bloat.  The O non diet is limiting but works best for me.  

However, the teacher diet suits my A sec husband to a T. The O nonnie is the best route for my O nonnie son and the hunter is working really well for my O sec son.

Amazing that we are able to find the best diet for each of us and that we do have a choice....

I think my A sec - sister is a gatherer.  She has been eating a modified A for the past year (gatherer-like more protein, less carbs) and has lost 45 lbs so far.  
Posted by: AnutLisa, Saturday, January 26, 2008, 11:40pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from jeanb
I think my A sec - sister is a gatherer.  She has been eating a modified A for the past year (gatherer-like more protein, less carbs) and has lost 45 lbs so far.  


So it IS possible for an A to be a Gatherer?  I'm a "yes" on nearly every question of the Gatherer strength test, but knowing that I'm an A I should be either a teacher or a warrior.  I'm so confused.  I score SSOOOO low on those A tests.  
Posted by: 260 (Guest), Sunday, January 27, 2008, 2:52am; Reply: 34
i must admit now I'm a little confused now that I scored higher on the BTD..but I was justifying sticking with the GTD becuase I read how Dr. D prescribes his patients with the genotype diet..so I was thinking that I would still benefit from it...does anyone think I should go with the BTD? or should I kinda combine the two? since the calculator said btd does that make my gatherer foods not beneficial for me if they aren't on my blood type list..ahhh this calculator business made me a little confused now!!!
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, January 27, 2008, 3:09am; Reply: 35
mm134684,
Listen to your body.  Give both a try and then do which ever works better.  I am leaning toward the btd, I have been eating the dairy for about 2 weeks, and I am so bloated.  I just think I do better on the btd....but I will still explore the gtd.  It's just that I have many hunter/explorer type things going on, while I do fit the gatherer the most.  By going back on the btd, I can return to a diet that includes most of the bennies from those genotypes....does that make sense?  ;)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 4:38am; Reply: 36
Quoted Text
how to add genotype to profile?

go to member center, top here.......see left margin buttons there.
Posted by: Novelia, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 6:02am; Reply: 37
Quoted from AnutLisa


So it IS possible for an A to be a Gatherer?  I'm a "yes" on nearly every question of the Gatherer strength test, but knowing that I'm an A I should be either a teacher or a warrior.  I'm so confused.  I score SSOOOO low on those A tests.  


No, As can only be Teachers, Explorers (if they're non-secretors and or A-) or Warriors.
Posted by: teri, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 7:06am; Reply: 38
I scored higher for GTD but only by a very slight margin. This basically reflects how I feel on both diets. I am choosing GTD because I think its a good thing that dairy has been limited, not that I notice any effect from it at all, it just coincides with what other ND's have told me. Other than the dairy, the diets are quite similar. At least they will be, on down the road. :)
Posted by: meribelle, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 1:12pm; Reply: 39
At first I did not think I felt better, but now I think I do.  I can not blame the GTD because it is my birthday week and I am not following the GTD very well.  Even so, it has inspired me to limit my 'cheats' to less harmful foods.
Posted by: Janet, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 1:16pm; Reply: 40
My score was based on 3 yes scores (rest no)
1.food allergies, 2. poor immune function, 3.thyroid.
My score was totally BTD
And although I've not tried switching to GTD...I'm happy to stay with that.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 9:38pm; Reply: 41
Dr. D. has estimated that the genotype "diets will outperform anything out there, and at least in 70-80% of the cases, my own prior work."

Out of the 42 responses so far 24 reported improvement that they could feel (57%).

57% is a bit lower than the 70 - 80% that the Dadamo quote indicates, but 10 people (24%) indicated they could not feel a lot of difference and these people might still have benefits not noticed in the first month, for instance one would not know if it was preventing cancer 20 years from now. If we arbitarily assumed half of these people were benefitted by GTD and half were not we would get a total of 29 out of 42 (69%).

Out of the 42 reponses, 8 people felt they did better on the BTD (19%). This would be in line with the quote above that may indicate 20 - 30% of people might do better on the BTD. If we again combine with half the people who didd not feel a difference in the first month we have 13 out of 42 (31%)
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, January 27, 2008, 9:45pm; Reply: 42
Remember most of us have known our own diets for only a month!
I'm sure things will improve with time!
S S & L,
Mrs "T"   O+  [hunter or gatherer - hoping for hunter!]
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, January 28, 2008, 7:28pm; Reply: 43
I don't think we can really come up with an accurate percentage at this point.  Are there more than two people on this board who can honestly say they have been 100% compliant with this diet for a month? I doubt it. For my part, I don't think a month comes close to determining all the if's and and's about a diet. But there are two things that we can bank on: 1) Some of us are going to be allergic, for now anyway, to one or more items on our super lists (even some with diamonds), and 2) We are going to be dealing with the release of toxins from our bodies for a while. I have been knowing for nearly thirty years that no matter what kind of diet a person is on to lose weight, there are going to be toxins exiting our bodies and causing all the stress they can in the process. I have had one person say that the GTD diet was not helping them - well, the truth of the matter was they hadn't actually been even marginally on the diet to start with and certainly not to its fullest scope. Just sticking a toe in for a few days won't cut it. It simply will not. As for as I can tell, beef is something that a Warrior could possibly eat once in a while without too much harm. Well, it would just about be the death of me if I attempted to eat a steak. Even vegetables cooked in beef stew broth absolutely will not digest in my stomach. I am TRYING to eat a few okay dairy products but I'm not sure this is going to work for me (but I haven't given up on it yet). Wheat bran is another iffy right now. But there are so many other foods to enjoy, how can we complain? I just had a great lunch that was all diamonds except cantaloupe, and it is a super. I was reacting to dog dander big time when I decided to stop the cleanup and eat lunch -- headache, ears stopping up, lower face tingling, aching all over, eyes burning and face flushing as if it were on fire. Now everything has calmed down except a faint burning in my eyes. Along with my super duper lunch I also slathered caster oil on my lower back. No more back pain. Amazing!
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, January 28, 2008, 7:52pm; Reply: 44
Something that I am keeping in mind along with sticking as closely to the Warrior diet as possible with the allergies or whatever that I am dealing with, is this:  I only scored a 9 on the Warrior strength testing, whereas I scored a whopping 21 on Hunter and 24 on Nomad. This was pretty shocking to me, to say the least. I tested 9 on one other group and higher on all the rest. So I am looking forward to more books containing whatever information and direction Dr. D. is able to come up with. We don't want to drive the man to his grave trying to help us, though. There are only so many hours in a day! In the meantime, I am feeling better than I have in a LONG time 95% of the time. Now, back to this dog dander clean up. (evil) (funny)
Posted by: SheriBerry, Monday, January 28, 2008, 8:32pm; Reply: 45
I haven't bought the GTD book yet... I think I'm going to go get it today.  One question, though:  it is  quite  clear on the BTD what we "are".. yet on the GTD there seem to be areas where one could  misinterpret or misread our own   "types"... so how  hard is it to  mess up and  think we are one thing when in fact we are another?  This reminds me of the auyervedic doshas with pitta, vade and kapha....
and what was that about finger measurments if one is O+??  is that a clear indicator of what one is?  I know I really need to just buy the book .  I'm going to  today.. but I am soooOoOo curious about this right now that I  thought I'd just ask!
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, January 28, 2008, 8:54pm; Reply: 46
I feel slightly better on the GTD and I think it is a bit easier to be comnpliant with the frequency and portion sizes...  

The calculator said that the GTD would be somewhat better for me than the BTD, so not an overwhelming difference.  This is in line with my feelings so far.
Posted by: 1784 (Guest), Monday, January 28, 2008, 8:59pm; Reply: 47
Hi, I'm new to the board although I've been lurking - messed up my registration and couldn't post for a while.  I just started converting from the BTD O secretor diet (I haven't done my secretor test yet - sitting on the bedside table - I followed the secretor diet based on the odds) but from what I could see from GTD, I could only be a Gatherer with one chance of being an explorer since I'm female, Type 0, and my index fingers are longer? I don't remember if one possibility of being an explorer  was based on being O negative or O positive or if it was based on other body measurements.  I strength tested just slightly higher for Gatherer than Explorer.  I have felt bloated since switching from BTD and my weight loss has slowed (I lost 22 pounds from mid Sept. to end of the year on the BTD with about 80% compliance and it seemed effortless) but then again, I have done what another poster mentioned, I've added the grains, millet, quinoi and teff at the expense of vegetables. I found a brand of crackers that seem Gatherer compliant and they have proved far to easy to grab when I'm slightly hungry -- at the expense of a proper meal.  I'm going to up my veggie consumption, drink more water and try to be more compliant before giving up on the GTD.  I'm not sure I've been eating enough - still struggle with that concept after years of starving on everything but low carb diets.  I really felt well when I was eating beef (naturally pastured, no additives) 4 or 5 times a week.  I'm going to start adding in more fish and turkey and see if I can tell a difference.  Do you think there is any reason to use my secretor test at this point or should I let someone in my family use it?  It doesn't seem to be as important in the GTD. DJ
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, January 28, 2008, 8:59pm; Reply: 48
Quoted from SheriBerry
I haven't bought the GTD book yet... I think I'm going to go get it today.  One question, though:  it is  quite  clear on the BTD what we "are".. yet on the GTD there seem to be areas where one could  misinterpret or misread our own   "types"... so how  hard is it to  mess up and  think we are one thing when in fact we are another?  This reminds me of the auyervedic doshas with pitta, vade and kapha....
and what was that about finger measurments if one is O+??  is that a clear indicator of what one is?  I know I really need to just buy the book .  I'm going to  today.. but I am soooOoOo curious about this right now that I  thought I'd just ask!


I thought the pictures/descriptions in the book were adequate to get good measurements.  Watch the videos if you need further clarification.  The tables are easy to follow once you have the measurements.  The strength testing is only necessary if you do not know blood type and Rh factor information.  Some types need to know Secretor status, but it didn't make a difference for me.  
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, January 28, 2008, 9:09pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from 1784
I have felt bloated since switching from BTD and my weight loss has slowed (I lost 22 pounds from mid Sept. to end of the year on the BTD with about 80% compliance and it seemed effortless) but then again, I have done what another poster mentioned, I've added the grains, millet, quinoi and teff at the expense of vegetables. I found a brand of crackers that seem Gatherer compliant and they have proved far to easy to grab when I'm slightly hungry -- at the expense of a proper meal.

Do you think there is any reason to use my secretor test at this point or should I let someone in my family use it?  It doesn't seem to be as important in the GTD. DJ

I think it is very important to watch the portion size/frequencies to get the full benefit of the diet...  If you add, you need to add proportionately.  

The secretor test is important for determining some types in the GenoType diet, but is more stressed in LR4YT.  If you know your GenoType without the SEcretor information, and are going to stick with the GTD, you may not need to test kit...  If you may go back to BTD, the information will be helpful, but only if you stick to the portion frequencies...

Posted by: zola, Monday, January 28, 2008, 9:14pm; Reply: 50
As a BTD Type A Non-Secretor, I feel that the GTD has found a lot of the missing links to health and balance for my type.
Posted by: 1784 (Guest), Monday, January 28, 2008, 9:47pm; Reply: 51
Thanks, ABJoe, I will try to track my grain/seed consumption more closely, I doubt it is the other super foods that are causing the problem. I tend to mix the "grains" in with veggies and meat which makes it a little harder to track. DJ
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, January 28, 2008, 10:07pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from 2330
I don't think we can really come up with an accurate percentage at this point.  Are there more than two people on this board who can honestly say they have been 100% compliant with this diet for a month? I doubt it. For my part, I don't think a month comes close to determining all the if's and and's about a diet. But there are two things that we can bank on: 1) Some of us are going to be allergic, for now anyway, to one or more items on our super lists (even some with diamonds), and 2) We are going to be dealing with the release of toxins from our bodies for a while. I have been knowing for nearly thirty years that no matter what kind of diet a person is on to lose weight, there are going to be toxins exiting our bodies and causing all the stress they can in the process. I have had one person say that the GTD diet was not helping them - well, the truth of the matter was they hadn't actually been even marginally on the diet to start with and certainly not to its fullest scope. Just sticking a toe in for a few days won't cut it. It simply will not. As for as I can tell, beef is something that a Warrior could possibly eat once in a while without too much harm. Well, it would just about be the death of me if I attempted to eat a steak. Even vegetables cooked in beef stew broth absolutely will not digest in my stomach. I am TRYING to eat a few okay dairy products but I'm not sure this is going to work for me (but I haven't given up on it yet). Wheat bran is another iffy right now. But there are so many other foods to enjoy, how can we complain? I just had a great lunch that was all diamonds except cantaloupe, and it is a super. I was reacting to dog dander big time when I decided to stop the cleanup and eat lunch -- headache, ears stopping up, lower face tingling, aching all over, eyes burning and face flushing as if it were on fire. Now everything has calmed down except a faint burning in my eyes. Along with my super duper lunch I also slathered caster oil on my lower back. No more back pain. Amazing!


Please explain the reason why you chose castor oil as a solution for your back pain.

Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 12:01am; Reply: 53
Quoted from Chloe


Please explain the reason why you chose castor oil as a solution for your back pain.



Well, it is sort of a long story that goes back several years, but Google castor oil and that might partly explain why castor oil is my first choice when it comes to back pain and many other types of pain - shoulders, knees, feet, bruises and pain caused by nervous tension! The other part is that I know for a fact that it helps me better than anything else and has many other people too.  (smile)
Posted by: focused, Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 3:15am; Reply: 54
I kind of agree with the quote from Spring. I felt bad on the GTD and took the test, came up with BTD 80%. but I figured I haven't stayed on Explorer long enough to tell. So I'm going to tough it out on GTD for another month just to be sure.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 3:33am; Reply: 55
DJ,
Welcome!

Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us.

Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information)

Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post.

Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=ref
read the threads in the Reference Section.
Posted by: RedLilac, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 2:37am; Reply: 56
Quoted from 1784
  Do you think there is any reason to use my secretor test at this point or should I let someone in my family use it?  It doesn't seem to be as important in the GTD. DJ


If it turns out that you are a non-secretor, then it is very important health wise.  Even though non-secretors only make up about 20% of the population, there are some diseases or conditions that non-secretors make up 80% of the sufferers.   When you know, then you can take preventative measures.

On the other hand, if you turn out to be a secretor, then you donít have to be so concerned and it doesnít make that much difference diet wise.
Posted by: Novelia, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 5:56am; Reply: 57
Quoted from RedLilac


If it turns out that you are a non-secretor, then it is very important health wise.  Even though non-secretors only make up about 20% of the population, there are some diseases or conditions that non-secretors make up 80% of the sufferers.   When you know, then you can take preventative measures.



I'm curious about which diseases you're referring to. 80% is a high number. Wow. I don't recall reading that in Dr. D's books or on his website, so I definitely want to know more because I'm a non-secretor.

Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 4:27pm; Reply: 58
Secretors are revised up to 85% in GTD!
Posted by: SquarePeg, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 5:44pm; Reply: 59
Quoted from Novelia
Quoted from RedLilac
Even though non-secretors only make up about 20% of the population, there are some diseases or conditions that non-secretors make up 80% of the sufferers.
I'm curious about which diseases you're referring to. 80% is a high number. Wow. I don't recall reading that in Dr. D's books or on his website, so I definitely want to know more because I'm a non-secretor.
I think it's mentioned in LR4YT.  I remember reading it somewhere.

Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 5:49pm; Reply: 60
non secretors represent 80 % of Dr Ds patients, at his clinic ......
is that what you mean? :)
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 6:53pm; Reply: 61
Quoted from Lola
non secretors represent 80 % of Dr Ds patients, at his clinic ......
is that what you mean? :)


That makes sense, I suspect we are more likely to be written off by MDs as hypochondriacs, become frustrated with "normal" western medicine, and strike out into the unknown of alternative/nutritional/homeopathic therapy, what with our tendencies toward oversensitivity.
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, January 31, 2008, 1:26am; Reply: 62
Yes, I expect that's the case.

I really can't tell a difference in how I feel on the BTD except I suppose I have a tidbit more energy.  Really hard to tell, and I'm VERY compliant with the GTD (I was with the BTD too, except I still eat black pepper occasionally).  But my skin looks extra terrible now.  I haven't decided  yet if it's the diet doing it or the "detox" doing it.  Either way, it's yucky and I'm tired of it.
Posted by: Novelia, Thursday, January 31, 2008, 4:26am; Reply: 63
Quoted from TJ


That makes sense, I suspect we are more likely to be written off by MDs as hypochondriacs, become frustrated with "normal" western medicine, and strike out into the unknown of alternative/nutritional/homeopathic therapy, what with our tendencies toward oversensitivity.


Yes. I WISH I were making up my problems - that all I need is psychological work to have clear skin or whatever.  I hope Dr. D will offer more nonnie-geared GTD recommendations in the future, just like he did in LR4YT. I also wish there were more researchers looking at the problems that non-secretors face. Dr. D seems to be alone with that.

Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, January 31, 2008, 2:19pm; Reply: 64
Yeah, I guess we all have our Bad Doctor stories, some more than others.

Isn't the GTD already secretor status-oriented?  I mean, it takes into account secretor status when it categorizes you.
Posted by: apositive, Thursday, January 31, 2008, 3:15pm; Reply: 65
Quoted from Ribbit
Isn't the GTD already secretor status-oriented?  I mean, it takes into account secretor status when it categorizes you.


Sort of.  But for some combinations of measurements secretors and non-secretors of the same blood type come out as the same genotype.
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 12:44am; Reply: 66
This gave the percentages of non-secretors:  
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm

As to the diseases, when I first found out I was a non-secretor I did lots of Google searches.  Also there have been many threads in this forum about them.  I canít recall exactly where I read that the statement.  I think it may be what Lola said that stuck in my head.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 5:40pm; Reply: 67

Quoted from apositive
... for some combinations of measurements secretors and non-secretors of the same blood type come out as the same genotype.


Also -- and I wish I knew whether this is significant or just a typo -- the book describes Teachers (p. 138 ) as "Secretor" (not "often" or "usually" -- just "Secretor").

Clearly, there are several paths in the Advanced Calculator Tables that lead a non-secretor to the "diagnosis" of Teacher.  But perhaps we are considered to be the exception?

In which case it'd be nice to know what's on the Teacher-nonnie diet!

Posted by: yaeli, Friday, February 15, 2008, 5:23am; Reply: 68
The point in that GTD suits me better. The choice of foods 'makes more sense' to me. Foods I used to love became superfoods. My main problems are the exaggerated portions I am used to eat - a typical gatherer - and that I don't eat enough veggies. Now I am :B to admit how happy I am that lettuce and broccoli are not superfoods for me anymore! Good riddance! :P  :D  That is, I continue to have lettuce, but it agrees with me so much more that it is neutral. The fennel bulbs are waiting in the fridge to be steamed...
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, April 18, 2008, 9:26pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from yaeli
The point in that GTD suits me better. The choice of foods 'makes more sense' to me. Foods I used to love became superfoods. My main problems are the exaggerated portions I am used to eat - a typical gatherer - and that I don't eat enough veggies. Now I am :B to admit how happy I am that lettuce and broccoli are not superfoods for me anymore! Good riddance! :P  :D  That is, I continue to have lettuce, but it agrees with me so much more that it is neutral. The fennel bulbs are waiting in the fridge to be steamed...



New Years Resolution... a little late, but never mind.
Next time I go shopping will carry a list of diamond foods only, and rigorously only buy those. 8)

Posted by: 2732 (Guest), Saturday, April 19, 2008, 4:18pm; Reply: 70
Quoted from Lloyd
I'm more curious by GT which diet is more suitable
My quiz results pointed overwhelmingly to GTD, based on about 3 yes answers, and yet I feel about the same as on BTD. On the other hand, the Warrior diet isn't that different from what I was doing before. Explorers seem to have the hardest time adjusting.

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