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Posted by: kkarina, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 9:48pm
I was gutted to read that honey, sugar, wheat, milk is a no no for a non secreter...........i am so unhappy.......i will have to lead an even more worse life than thinking that i might be a secreter and be able to have all 4 of the above....... :X :'(

Any more non secreter ab's - how did you cope?
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 13, 2007, 10:00pm; Reply: 1
hi this is one of the best which can happen!!!!
Now you know what's about our possibilities to go for prevention and also you will feel great after a certain while; no more dizziness, no more fears or whatsoever...the biiig calm in your head and heart and you
will grow with your diet you can't imagine right now :K)

I begun this diet since 1998....guessed something even here is wrong or that it's me who was ::) (eek)(nerd)(dizzy)then I made the secretortest and since about 3 years I feel happy, super,great etc....the only thingy which is a natural one, right now is my weight....but even here, coz of my tallness, I can cheat a bit with cloths ;) ;D......
so ce'mon go for your questions and tell us how we all can help you to
get onto the right potti ;) ....feel huged from another nonnie :K)
keep on smiling and you'll see you will become better and better in your health issues ....I am more than sure (woot)(woot)

by the was only some months' that I've had the right to be the only AB nonnie, if I remember well, the same in 05 on the IfHI issue....and now I do share this with ::) I think we are now some 4 or 5 AB nonnies' istn't that great ??) :o (clap)(dance)(clap)(dance)(smarty)(sunny)

hey Madl welcome in our royal club  :D ;DLOL
Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 10:02pm; Reply: 2
Welcome, welcome kkarina to the nonnie club.  Just sit right down here and you will be among many of us.  Isa is an A2B nonnie.  She will be along before you know it. :D

Nonnieness...we are unique.  Go to the nonnie clubhouse and read up on many things.  

You cope by doing your best to stay with the foods available.  Yes...easier said than done, but once feel so much better.  Took me a few months to grasp onto nonniehood, but once I did, I felt so much better. (woot)(woot)

Keep posting...we are here for you. :D

Debra :)
Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 10:04pm; Reply: 3
Aha...Isa beat me to it.

Debra :)
Posted by: kkarina, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 10:26pm; Reply: 4
;D I just need support to know that i am not the only non secreter here.....i think i could have coped being a secreter.......but will find it very hard to start.....after christmas.......i will start gradually by giving up wheat and corn first....and then gradually take out milk, sugar and honey..

The funny thing is that i just discovered the 'hibernation diet' which recommended taking 30 mls of honey before going to bed and it promotes seratonin levels and creates weight loss by burning fat whilst sleeping.....there's alot of technical stuff........

I felt really well after taking honey.......but today.....that has shattered me........sweet is my be all and end all...........

::) ::)I think by gradually introducing menus....i may suceed.

Can i just ask one thing.....i read in my book that fenugreek is an avoid........but then curry powder....has fenugreek in it........

I will read the posts with great interest and i will let you know how i get on...........

regards and thanks

Karina ;D ;D(pray)(pray)
Posted by: Curious, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 11:44pm; Reply: 5
Welcome kkarina. I am not an AB, but an O-Nonnie, but I was also disappointed about all the things I could not eat anymore. However, I think it is worth the change and you will feel so much better for it. You will also find substitutes for things as you go along and at some stage you might even enjoy being a nonnie. :)
Posted by: Kristin, Thursday, December 13, 2007, 11:47pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from kkarina
Can i just ask one thing.....i read in my book that fenugreek is an avoid........but then curry powder....has fenugreek in it........

I will read the posts with great interest and i will let you know how i get on...........

regards and thanks

Karina ;D ;D(pray)(pray)

Hi kkarina and welcome!  :)

Yes... most curry powders do have avoid ingredients in them. I get around that by making my own curry powder which I saw on a cooking show once. For me I just use turmeric, cumin, and corriander. Tastes wonderful! And I believe it is turmeric which has curcumin in it that is so beneficial.
Posted by: Rodney, Friday, December 14, 2007, 12:25am; Reply: 7
{{Hugs}} your among friends ;)
Posted by: purlgirl, Friday, December 14, 2007, 2:32am; Reply: 8
(wheat, corn, and dairy are no no's for us too)
The change is worth it. You will start feeling better.
and then you will be happy.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 14, 2007, 7:05am; Reply: 9
;D ;D ;D(woot)(woot)(woot)rrrroooostersis :K) :K) :K)  ;)

and now seriously to US ;) :D....:

sometimes our psyche is cheating us enormously coz it creates needs which are really very far from bodyneeds....especially wheat (tyrosinecraving as the O's as well and sluggish thyroide??) .....might be also that we do need sweets coz of candida coz of owergrowh of those because here la causa is our
little acidity in the stomach (pepsinlacks ::)
especialle corn & chicken are very very (eek)(mad) n a s t y
to our systems.......I felt it since I was a little child, stoppd eating chicken intuitively  when I was 2 or 3 years old, the same with corn....when I was forced to eat such stuffs I :P
seconds after automaticly they were forced to stop their behaviour (ok)(ok)(bunny)(happy)
karen if you give a try for only one or two weeks you will see the difference, also that weight will drop down rapidly.....
At the beginning I was soooo (oh)(oh)(oh)(oh)(grin) sure that
I'd be able to proof the contrary with my Vegatester (bioresonance) and then I got  :X :X :X :X can't be that this man knows how I do feel and that he's right in almost all his
presumtions ::) I felt beaten and that was the beginning of a
wonderful art of healing ....meep on all levels :-/ :B :B :B

Today I am so thankfull to Peter and our diet (especially when havin NOT cheaten with sweets ;) )......that I only can describe this feeling with the song of Waldo de los Rios: *come
sing a song of joy of love and understanding.....* (dance)(woot)(sunny)

p.s. dearle...please please don't believe all what you read about several diets....:-/ we might be that trustworthy to others its terrible :-/....sugar in that form (honey) doesnt'
augment serotoninlevels....sorry...sorry...sorry...thats' a biiiig lie!!! Honey does obviously keeps moodswings in their
issues, but then it does trigger and not the contrary!!!
The only good thing for us when needing more serotonin as a real effective booster are : mostly all aminoacids (sam-e, phenylalanine, tryptophane and 5HTP , l'tyrosine etc...would recommend you to go for a good aminoacidmix coz at the same time they do detox your whole body as well :D )
when we do have to strike with inner tension my dear ;)...go for a bigger dose of magnesium and all the B-vits. incl. inositol to get more relaxed ;) ;D
wish you all the best and as our confrère Rodney mentioned it...we are ALL here to help you ........!!! :K)
Posted by: kkarina, Friday, December 14, 2007, 6:17pm; Reply: 10
Thanks for all your replies........i will have a look at all the foods that i am allowed and theni will probably devise an eating plan for myself........


Posted by: 521 (Guest), Saturday, December 15, 2007, 1:29am; Reply: 11

My thinking on why non-secretors can't handle nearly as much carbohydrate as secretors can, is that they don't use them to build up masses and masses of secreted blood type antigen, which is made up of carbohydrate chains.

I could be wrong about that, but it's my tentative thinking, until somebody corrects me to the contrary.
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 15, 2007, 12:29pm; Reply: 12
it is a bit as you think my dear :K) but merely that glucose
is built up when eating foods, too much of glucose creates fatcells coz the body will go for storage....and the most important thing is, that a biiig amount of glucose is in the system but not really available to enter into the cells; here we do need little helpers for the adequate functionings of gap junction and that means....also enough of l'carnitin for example..... etc......and mostly people all do have lacks, so their bodies' can't produce those needed stuffs by themselves.... :-/.....and then metabolisme becomes sluggish :P
:-/ :-/ :-/(disappointed)coz adequate glandular productions isn't anymore possible :-/...again....that's one of the stress
virtualities ;).....
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, December 17, 2007, 8:29pm; Reply: 13
You have only good things in store for you!  My daughter is an AB nonnie and this diet is the best thing we ever did for her.  She went from a scrawny, tempermental, pale, red-eyed, sleepless toddler to a beautiful, happy (still tempermental at times--after all, she's an AB and a nonnie), slender, adrenalin-junkie almost 5-year-old.  I have seen amazing changes in her since we put her on the BTD.  I would recommend it to anyone.  We have found out that though there are a few foods we seem to not react to, even if they're avoids, sugar, wheat and dairy are not among them!  In fact, I know very, very few people who these foods do not negatively affect (except some dairy for Bs)!  Keep poking around on the forum.  You'll learn a lot.  The more closely you follow the diet, the better you'll feel.
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Tuesday, December 18, 2007, 5:33am; Reply: 14

the most important thing I've noticed about being a nonnie is that you really have to keep your inflammation and carbs low.  I think we get high blood sugar very easily.

I try to keep on hand some products like glycosia and gymnema, to keep my blood sugar low, as well as dandelion and peppermint, for my pancreas and my baseline arousal.

Also, I take some Deflect and some glucosamine sulfate with MSM pretty regularly, as well as some cayenne.  It definitely makes a difference.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, December 18, 2007, 3:38pm; Reply: 15
Chicken is one of the worst things my daughter has eaten.  It makes her cry and she can't stop.  
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, December 19, 2007, 3:31pm; Reply: 16
omG does it come??)....I instantly felt it was :P for me and put it out of my mouth....never ate it again ....(happy_gangsta)..... is your daughter attracted by a sort of poiso??)...:-/.....I think chicken is really one of the biiiiiggest badies we can go for ::)
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, December 20, 2007, 4:43pm; Reply: 17
She hasn't missed chicken since I took it away.  She does miss soy dreadfully, but she's very, very allergic to it.

It is certainly all about the individual.  All avoids should be off limits, but some beneficials or neutrals are off limits too, for some of us.
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