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Posted by: 119 (Guest), Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 3:17pm
I've been waking up with a sinus head ache every morning.  :'(  I haven't eaten any cheese for a couple of weeks, but I've been eating soy and spelt, and have just learned that I am a non secretor.  Would these cause sinus head ache?  ::) ??)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 3:20pm; Reply: 1
yes, and will resolve with time and absolute compliance!
join the club!
don t forget to drink your water!
Posted by: 119 (Guest), Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 5:32pm; Reply: 2
Am I supposed to join some sort of a club?  If so tell me how.  I'm so glad that I was right about the soy and spelt.  Oh!  How I love spelt noodles.  LOL!
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 6:40pm; Reply: 3
the club, meaning us nonnies!! lol
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 8:54pm; Reply: 4
You might enjoy rice noodles just as well, once you get used to the change!

Nonnies are sensitive folks, and we can have intolerance to some foods that are technically ok, usually neutral in classification.  
Posted by: purlgirl, Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 11:07pm; Reply: 5

Being a nonnie is tough, but "Knowledge is power". (someone smart said that)
What I mean is when I read about nonnies my reaction was "so that’s the reason..."  Then the test confirmed it.

The power part comes in making the needed adjustments  that improve our quality of life and heal the body so we aren’t so reactive.  

My health is much better since I started adjusting to being a nonnie. Arthritis, intestinal problems,  and horrible sinusitis are greatly  diminished.

I hope you will have similar results from adjusting your diet.

I'm still improving.  
Be as compliant as you can manage, I
f you can afford it get the products for your type.
Make some notes  that you can look back on so you can see the progress.

We're all rooting for you.
I hope this has been helpful  :)
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 12:09am; Reply: 6
Cynthia,

Yeah, I'd say they're very likely causing the headaches.   Spelt is, to my knowledge, just another form of wheat, which is a killer for O's -- especially nonnies.  

Also, the soy is an avoid for sure.  

Whenever I have, particularly, a carbohydrate avoid, I wake up the next day with joint pains.  And, lately, if I even have too much rice (which is a "neutral" for avoids), I get the same thing, but at about half the intensity.

To clear this stuff up, I usually just take Deflect and the first items on the antibacterial and yeast control protocols.  It helps me pretty quickly.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 12:41am; Reply: 7
Since it's in the AM, you may also look into what detergent and fabric softener (if any) you use on your bedding.  Sensitivity to such things is also part of the nonnie club.  

Also, you can look into a humidifier.
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 1:08am; Reply: 8
Quoted from Ronagon
Spelt is, to my knowledge, just another form of wheat, which is a killer for O's -- especially nonnies.

Spelt is only a problem for type O non-secretors.

Spelt is actually one of the better grains for type O secretors according to the Health Library books.  Spelt remains a type O secretor neutral in them, but several of the other grains get downgraded to neutral infrequently.
Posted by: 119 (Guest), Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 2:23am; Reply: 9
Thanx for the encouragement guys.  I'd been wondering about my fabric softener. I use Snuggle, both the sheets and the liquid, just to make sure there's no static electricity in my bedding or my clothes.  Would it be the scent or all of it?
Posted by: 476 (Guest), Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 2:39am; Reply: 10
I would drop using snuggle, I never use fabric softners on any of my laundery and have grown up doing that and when ever I walk by someone I can smell the detergent they use. It can be pretty strong and for anyone with respiratory issues can really through them for a loop. Try to find a hypoallergenic and unscented detergent. There really is no reason to be perfuming our clothes and linens. It just seems to be the american way to want every thing smelling rosey and nice when the scents can be such a health hazard.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 3:20am; Reply: 11
does anyone have a natural recipe or tip to prevent or to make sure there's no static electricity in one s clothes when out of the drier?
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 4:30am; Reply: 12
I finally found something that works.  Tried dryer balls...no good, though they did make towels a little fluffier.  The thing that has helped tremendously with static in my laundry is the reusable dryer sheets from One Step Ahead.  They seem to work as well as dryer sheets did, without any chemicals.  

(I got exzema from even the unscented sheets and liquid fabric softener, the scented kind make my nose and lungs and head hurt)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 4:46am; Reply: 13
One Step Ahead.........reusable? how?

would you know what material they re made of?
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 4:51am; Reply: 14
They're just made of some type of fabric, you toss them both into the dryer with every load and wash them every few months.  One pair lasts about a year.

http://www.onestepahead.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=311762&cmSource=Search#tabs
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 4:52am; Reply: 15
sounds great!
thanks Melissa!
perhaps it s the combination of both that works.
some reaction...interesting.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 4:54am; Reply: 16
Here's a slightly cheaper source (without comparing shipping)

http://www.allergysolution.com/products.asp?dept=40
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 4:56am; Reply: 17
thanks again!
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 8:57am; Reply: 18
Quoted from lola
does anyone have a natural recipe or tip to prevent or to make sure there's no static electricity in one s clothes when out of the drier?


Well the majority of my clothes is cotton,silk, wool or linnen and my sheets etc are 100 % cotton - and I never seem to have a problem with static electricty

Emma got a blouse 50 % polyester and 50 % cRayon/viscose and here comes trouble.!!! - But a bit of vinegar instead of fabric softner helps...
I use that for towels as well- fabric softners makes the soak up less water and gives Emma allergy.
We have very hard water so that might be why it is helpfull ( I try to avoid the tumble dryer )
Posted by: geminisue, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 10:03am; Reply: 19
If you need fabric softener, you can make your own by adding 1/4 cup of baking soda to the wash cycle. Adding 1/4 cup of white vinegar will also soften clothes, as well as eliminate static cling.

* You can eliminate static cling in the dryer by drying natural-fiber clothes and synthetic-material clothes separately. Better still, line dry the synthetic clothing, as those materials tend to dry faster than cotton.
Posted by: dawgmama, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 10:53am; Reply: 20
Years ago, I used Snuggle fabric softener and my O husband had such a severe allergic reaction that I had to take him to the hospital at 2 in the morning. His fingers swelled up like sausages, his face was ballooning up, and worst of all his airway was closing up! Thankfully the ER docs were able to reverse the reaction! That little Snuggle bear is EVIL! >:(

We live in Wisconsin, and really, the only time we have much static is in the winter on really cold, dry days. We just accept it, and 'zap' each other as we pass by! ;)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 1:36pm; Reply: 21
Well, no one has come right out and point blank, clear as day said this, so I shall:

Spelt is an avoid for Type O non-secretors.  Not just probably not a good idea or could be a problem, but an outright avoid.  And, in my opinion, just as Ron-O-Non said (thank goodness someone besides me finally said this--up until now I feel I've been the lone wolf in the BTD community with this particular opinion), spelt is just a form of wheat.  A slightly more tolerable form of wheat for secretors, maybe.  But wheat nonetheless and an avoid for non-secretors.  I would definitely lose the spelt.  This isn't one of those avoids like was just discussed in another thread that, well, it could be minor for some, major for others.  This, unfortunately, is a biggie for all O nons, imho anyway.  I say unfortunately because you mention you love your spelt noodles.  But the good news is, there are some great brands of rice pasta out there and I promise you that you won't miss the spelt noodles, honestly, you won't.  You could also just make plain, whole brown rice and use that instead of the noodles.  Or you could go with my new love, quinoa.  It is not in "noodle" form, it is more like couscous, but it can be used in the same recipes and is very comfort-foody, just like noodles.

I agree that Snuggle fabric softener should probably be discontinued.*  That is up to you, but the strong perfumes in most fabric softeners could definitely be a contributing factor to your headaches.

Also (I'm really dishing out some unwanted tidbits today, sorry), soy is an avoid for O non-secretors, too.  Not as bad, in my humble opinion, as spelt, but just FYI, it is an avoid.

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Quoted from dawgmama
Years ago, I used Snuggle fabric softener and my O husband had such a severe allergic reaction that I had to take him to the hospital at 2 in the morning. His fingers swelled up like sausages, his face was ballooning up, and worst of all his airway was closing up! Thankfully the ER docs were able to reverse the reaction! That little Snuggle bear is EVIL! >:(

What she said!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 1:46pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from purlgirl

Being a nonnie is tough, but "Knowledge is power". (someone smart said that)
What I mean is when I read about nonnies my reaction was "so that’s the reason..."  Then the test confirmed it.

The power part comes in making the needed adjustments  that improve our quality of life and heal the body so we aren’t so reactive.  

My health is much better since I started adjusting to being a nonnie. Arthritis, intestinal problems,  and horrible sinusitis are greatly  diminished.

Great results, purlgirl, I'm very happy for you!  Excellent post, too.  Knowledge is power.

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 1:56pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from JamieB
I would drop using snuggle, I never use fabric softners on any of my laundery and have grown up doing that and when ever I walk by someone I can smell the detergent they use. It can be pretty strong and for anyone with respiratory issues can really through them for a loop. Try to find a hypoallergenic and unscented detergent. There really is no reason to be perfuming our clothes and linens. It just seems to be the american way to want every thing smelling rosey and nice when the scents can be such a health hazard.

Amen!  Tell it like it is!

I can't even walk down the detergent aisle in the grocery store, seriously.  Ditto for the aisle wherein they have all the household cleaning products.  Perfume ALERT!

But what really, really, really, really, really, really--did I mention REALLY--gets me are those plug-in "air fresheners" (p.s., they do not "clean"/purify or even freshen the air, they simply add caustic perfumes to it!).  I went to this lecture at the SPCA--the SPCA of all places!--here a while back.  They had it in a large all-purpose room sort of place, so it wasn't where most of the animals are housed, yet they did have one resident cat who is not up for adoption, he lives at the SPCA permanently, in there.  I cannot believe the powers that be at this particular SPCA are so ignorant and clueless that they would infuse a facility that houses animals--even just that ONE resident kitty, whose box was in that auditorium--nevermind us humans who were in there, with the horrible perfumes I'm about to describe.

Anyway, so I'm sitting there at this lecture and it was a great lecture by a very good vet about geriatric pets.  But I'm just feeling awful, I mean, headache, unwell, sinuses drying out to beat the band, yada yada yada.  I kept thinking, WHO is wearing that perfume?  Oh my God, this is awful.  I'm going to have to walk out.  This is seriously serious in its seriousness.  Seriously.

I did move away from the side I was sitting on, where I thought the offending person must be sitting.  But it was no better on the other side.  I thought, what in the world?  Whoever has this perfume on, they must have used an entire bottle!!!

At the very end, when we were all mixing and mingling and I was waiting to speak with the vet, I noticed it:  a tiny little plug-in "air freshener".  I was livid.  What is the ever-lovin' point of these STUPID things?  As Jamie says, Americans feel the need to perfume EVERYTHING:  why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Why, why, WHY!

So, if memory serves, I think I said something to the head of the entire SPCA (I was a volunteer there so I knew which one she was) and the response was like a deer in headlights, like, "Wuh?  I don't see a problem.  And who are you to bring this up to me?"  I was livid that this poor live-in kitty whose litterbox and scratching post, etc., was in that room--so that is his homebase, he had to put up with this absolutely pervasive, very caustic perfume overload 24/7.  And they were oblivious and even when I got up in her grill and pointed out that this "air freshener" is CAUSTIC to human and pet upper-respiratory systems, I just got a 'tude to beat all 'tudes, like:  "You obviously are a peon who doesn't know what she is on about, obviously air fresheners are nice things and we need it to mask the smell of kitty's litter box."  NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Try using pine litter and keeping the box clean and try not having the box in the main meeting room!!!!!  HELLO!  The lights are on, but is anyone home?

I can't stand human beings, I mean, let's bottom line this thing.  I just cannot put up with the lot of 'em.

Never been back to another lecture in the SPCA auditorium since.

:(

Posted by: enilac, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 2:51pm; Reply: 24
Hi I like to know what are the brands of rice pasta ? Been trying to look for them.
Posted by: geminisue, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 5:31pm; Reply: 25
I think you will find them in HFS
Posted by: italybound, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 5:49pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from enilac
Hi I like to know what are the brands of rice pasta ? Been trying to look for them.


Tinkyada is a good one.  There's a brand called DeBasio or something like that (not the furniture store LOL)..........awful!!!!  I tried the Ezekiel 4:9 sprouted pasta.....didnt like it either. It was as bad as the DeBasio to me.  :X
Spaghetti squash is a good substitute as well. :-)
Posted by: 119 (Guest), Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 6:39pm; Reply: 27
I appreciate you guys so much.  Peppermint you remind me of me.  I have my high horses too.  Boy do I!  I've tried rice nooles in the past, and remember that I always felt pretty good after.  Will have to try them again.  Thanx Victoria.

Am going to try the baking soda and vinegar thing.  Good idea.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 7:12pm; Reply: 28
Tinkyada is my favorite.  I love all their shapes, especially the fusilli.
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 8:15pm; Reply: 29
The best one is Tinkyada.  Whole Foods sells it.  It's the only one that doesn't get mushy.
Jane
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