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Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:33am
Hi. I had my first visit with a naturopath today. My major frustration is that I cannot seem to lose weight, no matter how much I exercise (6-8 hours a week, cardio and weight training) and no matter how "perfectly" I count my calories. There are other frustrations of course, but this is clearly the big issue for me. BTD seems to offer a solution that I'm excited to try.

I've read a lot of things on this site today - so many that I'm a bit bleary eyed (or could that be from the fact that it's 11:30 at night?? who knows?!) Anyway, I'm off to the HFS first thing in the morning to restock the pantry with good food for my O+ plan.

I'm taking Cod Liver Oil (YUK), something called Biogest, and something else called Liver Cleanse per the ND's counsel.

Does anyone have any "must do-must have" advice for a true newbie on the plan? Food or supplements or just general advice? I'd welcome all suggestions.

Thanks, and I look forward to getting to know you as I begin this journey.

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:03am; Reply: 1
fish oil supplementation is not advised for Os.
try fresh wild caught fish instead.

blood thinning is not such a good idea in Os who already have thin blood.
Posted by: accidental_chef, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 6:13am; Reply: 2
Hi Ellen,

Which of the books do you have? ER or LR?

The first thing I did was to avoid all the avoids, focussed on beneficials and added neutrals as fillers.

Also, follow the recommended portions, it may or may not change as you go along, as all of us are different.

Great lesson I learnt here was to have protein morning and noon (also dinner as well), and beneficial starches for dinner. If your focus is on losing weight, then up your protein, veggies, fruits, nuts and juices. Use starchy veggies like pumpkin, sweet potatoes, carrots etc for your carbs. Keep away from grains atleast for a month.

Supplements I was given to get rid of lectins and build up immunity etc were: polyflora, deflect, taraxacum, fucus plus, ARA6, bromelain, proberry 3.

I was given a very, very general formula to follow: 40% protein, 40% carbs (from veggies & fruits) 20% beneficial fats.

Exercise is crucial and so is relaxation. Water too.

This forum has incredibly supportive members. So dont hesitate to ask questions.

Welcome aboard and best wishes for a new and healthy life style!

Posted by: zola, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 7:19am; Reply: 3
Have beneficials you enjoy eating in your house, car and workplace so you will help yourself make good food decisions!
Posted by: Mitchie, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 9:19am; Reply: 4
Hi Ellen -

Welcome!  You'll have such a great time learning about how your body reacts to foods.   It's really a fun learning experience.  Good luck to you! ;)

PS - In the beginning I was all about substitutions.  Each week I tried to focus on one or two avoids I was eating and find beneficials (or at least neutrals) to replace just those.  It kept me from thinking "I can't eat anything" while still keeping me moving forward.
Posted by: Brighid45, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 12:42pm; Reply: 5
Hello Ellen, nice to meet you :)

I'd say the very best advice to give an O newbie is:

1) Work hard on cutting back on grains in general, and eliminating wheat in particular. This is such a powerful tool for regaining health and losing weight for most Os, it's just amazing. Some people go cold turkey, others cut back gradually. Whatever works for you is great. I would recommend ezekiel bread as a transition food--it's excellent when you want a sandwich or are making lunch for work or school--and rice or spelt pasta is good in place of semolina. As you cut back on grains, replace them with lots of fresh vegetables and fruit. You'll find yourself moving away from bread, pasta etc. and toward fresh live foods. It's a wonderful journey, full of all sorts of discoveries.

2) When in doubt, eat protein. Os cannot go wrong with protein. Hard-boiled eggs and nuts are good sources besides meat. If protein isn't available, eat fresh beneficial vegetables or fruits. If they aren't available, drink water. Obviously if you are hypoglycemic or diabetic you should follow the sugar protocol so you don't end up sick, but where possible, eat right for your type and you'll see results.

3) Understand that you will make mistakes. You're human, it's inevitable. It's also no big deal. In real life you are often faced with less-than-ideal choices. Do the best you can and let the rest go. Be gentle with yourself when you give in to temptation . . . then get up and keep on walking the path of health. You'll get where you want to go eventually, and every experience will teach you something valuable, if you are open to it. Most of us here at the board understand this process very, very well. :)

4) Find out your secretor status. It's an excellent tool for fine-tuning the food plan, and can help you regain health faster.

Welcome to the board. I look forward to your posts. :)
Posted by: 504 (Guest), Thursday, July 26, 2007, 1:03pm; Reply: 6
Hi Ellen, enjoy your start on a great journey into the BTD way of life,

as a relative newbie myself, I would also recommend to start gently by eliminating the avoids from your food cupboards as far as possible, and experiment with different ways of cooking/serving the beneficials - if you don't succeed with an ingredient first time, try again, you will probably find a way to love it!  

having said that, though, I wasted loads of time and ingredients on trying to make a bread substitiute when I first started - I ended up with gooey stodge, rock-like items and just plain disgusting-tasting spongy stuff - now I don't even miss bread at all and have found that most other meals I cook can be taken to work in a box and are very palatable at room temperature, thereby removing the need for sandwiches.
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Thursday, July 26, 2007, 2:50pm; Reply: 7
Wow. You guys ROCK! Thank you so much for your feedback. Very helpful.

Lola, I'm a bit concerned about the fish oil advice... frankly it's because my ND gave me the oil because I am Omega-3 deficient. Is this a sign that maybe my ND isn't all that good if she doesn't know it's contraindicated? I have an appointment to see her in 2 weeks.

I've done a cleanse about 2 years that involved me giving up wheat and dairy, among other things. I feel like an idiot right now for putting that stuff back in my cupboard. And I'm sure my friends will enjoy the "food shopping" they'll be able to do courtesy of me. I agree - I have to get the stuff out of my house as soon as possible. I am going away tomorrow (how timely!) and figure that I will likely need to something-less-than-perfect. That said the good news is that I'm not going to be eating in restaurants so much - we're going to a lake house in Wisconsin. Anyway, my plan is to follow Brighid's suggestion... when in doubt eat protein, and get carbs from fruits and vegetables. I'm going to get myself some diet-smart snacks to take with me on the trip.

Thanks again for all the advice and keep sending me those good vibes!


PS: Are there any places on the site where people journal?
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 3:06pm; Reply: 8
BTD diet will provide the correct balance of
omega-3 to omega-6.......follow the portion guidelines accordingly.
there s a blogger section on the homepage, left margin....and the most recent blogs appear right here on top of this page, with the name of the blogger, you just click on that.

there s a general search button that is very handy, to read up on information and other board discussions from the past........
try the word fish oil or thin blood and you will have loads of s the search button, located also on the left margin of the home page
to give you an example......
find other sources of omega flax or chia seeds, etc....
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 3:49pm; Reply: 9
Hi Ellen,
and congratulations on discovering the BTD!  In my life, it has been one of the most important things that has ever come my way.  

Like others, I spent a lot of time in the beginning, trying to find ways to substitute things for my accustomed avoids.  I no longer do that because I have come to LOVE the beneficial foods I eat.  The more you eat for your blood type, the easier it gets.  Your food cravings will change dramatically and you will feel better and better as you eat things that your body thrives on.

As you gradually get used to "not touching avoids with a ten foot pole" and selecting beneficial foods, start adhering to Dr. D's portion and frequency recommendations in LR4YT.  And try and emphasize beneficial foods over neutrals.  Many of us loaded up on the neutrals in the early stages of the BTD, and it is very possible to gain weight that way.  Especially overeating the neutral grains can pack on the weight.  An abundance of beneficial protein and vegetables is the best way to health.  With a reasonable amount of beneficial fruits thrown in.  As you can see, I'm gaga over the beneficials!  :-)
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:04pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from yesimln
I'm a bit concerned about the fish oil advice... frankly it's because my ND gave me the oil because I am Omega-3 deficient. Is this a sign that maybe my ND isn't all that good if she doesn't know it's contraindicated? I have an appointment to see her in 2 weeks.

It may just be that your ND is not aware of the BTD; not necessarily that she isn't any good. There are other foods that you can eat that will give you the same benefits of omega-3 such as ground flax seeds and fresh wild salmon. There are probably many others, but as I'm not an O...hopefully, other O's will speak up.
Posted by: Don, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:21pm; Reply: 11
Try to find and eat grass-fed red meat, beef, bison, and lamb, since it is much higher in omega 3 EFAs.

Walnuts are high in Omega 3 EFAs.

Use 1-2 tbsp. of ground flaxseed a day.

Use flaxseed oil.

The above are all type O beneficials

Look for high omega 3 eggs, preferably organic. Eggs are only a type O neutral, but are still recommended to be eaten every week.

Cod Liver Oil is a type O secretor neutral, so you can continue with it, but long term you might be better off trying to get your Omega 3 EFAs from other sources. You can also find vegetarian DHA that is made from algae, but it is hard to find one that does not have type O avoids in it.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:26pm; Reply: 12
A very warm welcome to you, Ellen!

I'm so happy for you because I truly feel you are in the right place now.  The BTD has helped me tremendously in so many unexpected ways.  Weight continues to be a struggle for me and right now I am not doing well in that regard, but I can tell you that when I am really working the BTD program the way I should be (high compliance, virtually no grains--I'm a non-secretor, regular exercise), the weight does indeed come off.  I think for me, it will always be a challenge, though.  We all have one or several aspects of health that are particularly challenging for us.  The great thing about the BTD is that it is holistic, it impacts every system of the body and helps normalize and balance your entire being.

I went on it for weight loss but have stayed on it for so many, many, MANY more reasons, too numerous to even list.  A few just off the top of my head are, eliminating cravings, feeling nourished and satisfied, feeling steady and in balance, balancing blood sugar, balancing brain chemistry, keeping menstrual periods regular, deep cellular healing/repair, healthy digestive system, systemic anti-inflamation such as rosea not progressing, etc., etc., etc.

I've also found a real home here in the wonderful cybercommunity of BTDers.  Like any family, sometimes we have our moments, but in the end we are there for each other and you will not find a warmer, more intelligent, informed, interesting, open-minded, knowledge-thirsty, sillier, more caring group of people anywhere.

So, kick off your shoes and stay a while.  I think you will love it here.

Newbie Suggestions:

1.  Always read ingredient labels on anything you buy to scan for avoids.  The big Type O avoids are wheat and corn, which go by many names!  For example, if you see "fructose", that translates to corn syrup, which you wouldn't necessarily think, as literally "fructose" means "fruit sugar" why they can even legally call corn syrup "fructose" is beyond me, but I digress!!!  Read those labels and you will do fine, once you get over your shock, horror and amazement at how the food industry tries to stick wheat and, particularly, CORN, into everything since they are the two most abundant and cheapest crops in America.

2.  Three big avoids to cut out asap are wheat, corn and coffee...and some would say dairy is right up there, too.  If you get too overwhelmed with everything, just try to do the best you can with everything and only be strict about those biggies until you really get the hang of things.  However, the more compliant you can manage to be, the better for your health.  Compliance level is a very personal thing and no one can make that decision for you.  Your compliance level may vary from day to day, too, over the long haul.  This is not a fad diet that most of us stick to for just six weeks and then we go "off" it.  This is a lifetime thing and thus must be sustainable.  Each of us has to experiment and figure out how strict or lenient we need to be and can be in order to sustain this thaaang over the long haul.  But I don't mean to make the BTD sound like a grim chore.  On the contrary, this diet is a JOY!  When I was new, I used to exclaim that every day was like Thanksgiving on the BTD!  You get to eat nourishing, delicious, wonderful food and feel satisfied and like a million bucks!

3.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask here on the board.

4.  Again, WELCOME!
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:32pm; Reply: 13
Neuromins DHA supplement in place of fish oils.  It comes under many brands, it's
made from micro algae instead of fish and works well for Os.
vegetarian DHA capsules
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:36pm; Reply: 14

Quoted from yesimln
Lola, I'm a bit concerned about the fish oil advice... frankly it's because my ND gave me the oil because I am Omega-3 deficient. Is this a sign that maybe my ND isn't all that good if she doesn't know it's contraindicated? I have an appointment to see her in 2 weeks.

Ellen, I would do what the ND told you.  I think the ND sounds great because she is the one who advised you to start the BTD.  That speaks volumes to me about this ND.  While Lola is right that, in general, fish oil supplementation is not advised for O's, each individual is different (in fact, that is what this approach to diet is all about), and if you are deficient in omega 3 (which is SO important!) and your ND says take fish oil, please continue to do so and do NOT worry about it.  Fish oil is very, very, VERY good for everyone.  It is only contraindicated as a supplement (not as found in servings of whole fish, but just in the amount/concentration found in supplements) for most O's because our blood is already thin and fish oil thins the blood.  However, you sound like you might be a non-secretor since you have a rough time losing weight even when you exercise.  Nonnies have thick blood, so being an O non sort of makes your blood average out to a normal viscosity *lol*!  Seriously, I would NOT worry about continuing with the fish oil supps in your case.  It is soooooooo good for you and it is not an avoid for any reason other than the blood thinning effect, which varies from individual to individual--for most Type A's, who have thick blood, it is a very, very GOOD effect.  Most O's are better off not overdoing it with fish oil but again, in your case, since you are deficient in Omega-3 and your doctor, who examined and evaluated you as an individual, prescribed it, I say please continue taking it.  You could certainly discuss your concerns with her, and say, "Hey, you suggested I go on the BTD and you also prescribed fish oil, yet the BTD says that O's, in general, should avoid fish oil supps.  What up, doc?"  I'm sure she will set your mind at ease.  I think it is fine in your case, truly.  But doublecheck with your doc.  In the meantime, continue taking the fish oil.  Just my opinion and I'm not a doctor, but that is what I would do.
Posted by: Colleen, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:53pm; Reply: 15
PT - did you get yourself a SMART car???  I looked into them 2 years ago but too small for Mom's walker, etc.
Posted by: Colleen, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:56pm; Reply: 16
ELLEN, welcome !!  I'm back on track after a big slip.  This is day 4 and I'm down 5 pounds already !!  gotta love it.

I went on BTD due to health issues following colon cancer resection surgery.  What the dr's said would be a life long condition is GONE !!  Gone in 6 months or less !!  Of course they won't admit it has anything to do with my diet.

Grains are a killer in the weight loss dept.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:59pm; Reply: 17
great results Colleen!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:14pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Colleen
PT - did you get yourself a SMART car???  I looked into them 2 years ago but too small for Mom's walker, etc.

They aren't officially for sale here in the US yet, although you can buy them on the "gray market" (imported new or used and converted to meet US standards) through various unofficial sources.  New smartfortwos built for the American market will be sold via official channels (via Penske, some at stand-alone dealerships, some in their own section of existing Mercedes-Benz dealerships) sometime in 2008.

If my '99 Saturn holds out, I won't buy a smart or anything yet.  My m.o. is to drive my cars into the ground.  However...I SAY that, but I've never wanted a car like I want a smart *lol*!!!!!!!!!  If I allow myself to go look at one, let alone test drive one, that could be it.  Next thing you know, I could be driving out of there in a little smartfortwo, yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

But hopefully my '99 Saturn SL2 holds out until '09, making it a solid 10 years old.  Cars should last at least 10 years, me thinks.  Especially with the low mileage I have on that baby.

edited to add:  Ellen!  I didn't mean to hijack your thread.  It's all Colleen's fault, she asked me the question!  I apologize for both of us *lol*, and now back to your newbie welcoming thread, yay!!!!!!!

edited to add:  Colleen, Lola is right:  those are GREAT results.  Does the BTD rock or WHAT?  (Answer key:  It ain't "or WHAT", so what does that tell ya?)  Also, my mom has a walker, too, so the smart is not a practical choice for me...still, ooooh, how I WANT one!

Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:20pm; Reply: 19
Hey yesimln...welcome to the forum and the BTD way of life.   Congrats on your ND getting you on the right track.  I would suggest you get your secretor test done so that you would know if Cod Liver Oil is an avoid for you.  When I first started the diet I had tried fish oil supplements, but did not do very well on them.  Once I got my secretor test done I knew why.  Eating fish and the above mentioned foods that have Omega 3 in them is more beneficial.  Great that you are going to get rid of the avoids in your house...nothing worse than an hungry O and there are quick no-no's in the house.  Been there...done that.   Don't forget to read your labels everytime you buy something.  Things change and food companies do put avoids in products that we think are compliable.  Glad to have you here and keep us posted.  Have a great weekend.

Colleen...wonderful that you could beat the life long recovery condition in six months.  (clap) (clap) (dance)(dance)  So sad that the doctors have their heads in the sand. :(   (((((Big Hugs to you )))))

Debra :)
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:20pm; Reply: 20
Okay I know this is too soon but I love you guys. Thank you so much for all of this. I'm THRILLED.
I'm off to the store to find myself some organic beef and some free range chicken. And more blueberries, which are among the most fabulous things nature invented in my book and on my "go for it!" list. :) For breakfast I ate eggs with veggies and a bowl of blueberries. I'm stuffed and that was 2 1/2 hours ago. A lot of times I feel full and yet hungry at the same time.  A sign that I'm not digesting well based on what I'm reading here. I'm incredibly hopeful that the new life-long eating plan will put an end to that!

Based on what you're saying, I think I need to do this secretor test sooner than later. But I'm going to continue the plan that the ND put forth until I see her in 2 weeks.

Colleen, I'm so glad that your cancer situation is in check! That's huge news. And frankly it's much better news than me ever losing 5 pounds would be!

PT, thank you so much for your thoughts. I read about the COL being neutral for O's and I thought well I should just do what she says for 2 weeks. Even if long term I need to change this out for flaxseed (good advice e1!) I think my body will begin to respond well now that I'm ditching dairy, wheat, and yes corn. I know what you mean about the labels - honestly I think what it means is that 99% of the time I need to make my own food with natural ingredients. That sounds time consuming, but I'll figure it out over time.

You all seriously rock. I feel so supported. Thank you Thank You THANK YOU!!

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:22pm; Reply: 21
P.S.  Last hijacky point:  Colleen, there is 12 cubic feet of storage space behind the front seats, fyi:,+storage+behind+front+seats%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

Okay, back to Ellen and her exciting journey into the BTD mystic!!!!!!!!!!  Ellen, you are in for the ride of your life, a wonderful, magical mystery tour like none other!  And we'll be here with you every step of the way (but don't let that scare ya off *lol*)!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:32pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from yesimln
Okay I know this is too soon but I love you guys.

We are pretty fabulous, I must concur!   ;D
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Thank you so much for all of this. I'm THRILLED.

You are very welcome.  I know I love to welcome excited newbies such as yourself (and, for that matter, also the newbies who come here at the end of their ropes and feeling awful with something that they've been to doctor after doctor to try to contend with, to no avail, and they are just going to try one more thing, but they really don't think it will is so exciting to me to know that it probably will for so many different health challenges and to know that we will see the person coming back and posting a series of ever-increasingly amazed and thrilled posts--I LOVE that!!!).  You seem to have a very good head on your shoulders and I know you will do very well with the BTD--so I am happy for you!  I think all of us who have been on this journey for a while get excited for newbies because we remember how amazing it was for us as newbies when so many wonderful things started happening, healthwise.  Unexpected things, so often, which makes it all the more amazing.  But anyway, I'm gushing (I tend to get that way about the BTD--bear with me!).
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Based on what you're saying, I think I need to do this secretor test sooner than later. But I'm going to continue the plan that the ND put forth until I see her in 2 weeks.

Great plan.  I think this ND sounds like a true find and just stick to what she has told you for the two weeks and then, if you have questions about the fish oil supplementation or anything else, make a list of them and bring it with you to ask her.  From what I hear/gather, NDs are one rare type of doctor who actually welcome questions and a collaborative relationship with their patients, so go for it, girl!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:36pm; Reply: 23
P.S.  Oh, and YES, do get the secretor test when you can.  No huge rush, but it is very valuable info to have, especially in the weight loss department!  The non-secretor refinements can make all the difference in that regard.  That said, I lost a lot of weight on the regular old "ER4YT" (written before any secretor/non-secretor distinctions were set forth in the diet's food lists), so you should see progress, weight-wise, especially at first, with just eating right for your ABO type.  Especially for O's, just cutting out wheat (and corn, but wheat is our nemesis) alone should be a key that alerts your system that it is okay to start dropping pounds.

Good luck!
Posted by: Mary M., Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:40pm; Reply: 24
Hi Ellen,

Nice to have you on board.
I, like other BTDers, have found the complete abandament
of grains to be a blessing with one exception and that
too is slowly diminishing.

Manna Bread. (it is a Beneficial for type 0s)
All Rye Manna Bread. It's usually
in the freezer section of the Health Food stores.
Toasted under the broiler with some ghee and
complient Agave nector is now a twice a week
or less treat.

I still have a sweet tooth.
Cocoa powder and boiling water with a dash of Celtic
Salt, some ghee and agave nector satisfies that
craving too.

Sandwichs with Romain lettuce instead of bread
and homemade mayo is now preferred. You grow
into the BTD.

Knowing your secreter status would further refine
your food choices and that's a good thing.

God bless.

Posted by: Don, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 5:43pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from yesimln
I'm off to the store to find myself some organic beef and some free range chicken.

Note that organic labeled beef doesn't mean that it is grass fed. Look specifically for grass fed labeling on beef, bison, and lamb.

I have some trouble finding grass fed meat at local stores. The Australian lamb I buy is supposed to be grass fed, but to be honest I am not 100% sure. The ground bison I can get I know is grain finished. One store carries grass fed ground beef, but no other cuts of meat.

Therefore, I usually buy my beef at a farm over an hour away that I found on
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Thursday, July 26, 2007, 8:06pm; Reply: 26
Back from the store. I found grass fed beef at my Whole Foods so I bought some. There was much selection though - you were all right about that. I also bought a copy of the book (ER4YBT) so now I have that. They were all out of the food cheat sheets for type O, of course. Feeling very common, but that's okay! :)

Also, holy cow! It took me forever in the store because I was reading labels like mad.

Since I'm leaving on a car trip in the morning, I concentrated on getting foods to eat in the car - plums, bananas, walnuts, dried mango. Hopefully it'll be plenty to keep me going LOL.

More soon,

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 8:20pm; Reply: 27
look for compliant jerky for protein.....
also the nap bars....
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 8:34pm; Reply: 28
Welcome Ellen.  It's a whole new lifestyle and after a while it will become second nature.  We're a real family here and you'll get all the support you want!
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Friday, July 27, 2007, 4:23am; Reply: 29
Well Day 1 is done and behind me. Yay. I think I did pretty well all things considered. I ended up having grass-fed beef and broccoli for dinner. I ate 2 of the rice cakes as well. They are bland without the other stuff in them to spice them up although I do like the crunch factor. I have to confess, I didn't even think about dinner until very late and then when I did I realized I was starving! Strange. Same thing happened at lunch. I was not hungry, not hungry, not hungry, then STARVED! Is this normal?

I have told a number of people I'm doing this and have gotten mixed reviews. Some think it's crazy and total bunk; others are intrigued. I suppose that is normal, eh? My thinking personally is that this does make sense to me - I know I feel better without wheat and dairy. I've done it before and it definitely improved my digestion. And I'm going to give this my all until such time as I have reason to say "this doesn't work for me!" which I'm not expecting to say.

Rough day today. I am looking for work right now and I just found out that I did NOT get the job I wanted. The fact that I made it through the day without wine or chocolate is a miracle. I do have a rotten headache however. I'm hoping a little relaxing music before bedtime will knock it out of me.

Posted by: Lola, Friday, July 27, 2007, 4:57am; Reply: 30
don t forget to drink half your weight in oz of water daily!
headaches are sometimes a sign of
Posted by: 119 (Guest), Friday, July 27, 2007, 6:02am; Reply: 31
Welcome, Ellen.  I'm not new to the diet' but I'm new to the sight.  I'm so thankful to have people to talk to who understand, and know what I'm talking about.  This diet has truely been an adventure, and since I love to cook and invent my own recipies I never felt deprived when some of my favorite foods were found to be on the avoid list.  My culinary talents have truely been challenged and I love it.

You're on the right track and in the right place.  Go for it!

Posted by: dawgmama, Friday, July 27, 2007, 12:43pm; Reply: 32
Hi Ellen, sorry to hear that you did not get the job, perhaps  you'll get the next one that you apply for, and it will be an even better opportunity! Enjoy your time at the lake house! What lake? I'm from Wisconsin. While you are there, take a nice vigorous hike in the woods and look for wild raspberries. Depending how far north you are, you might even find some wild blueberries, tiny but yummy!!

If you want to loose weight, dumping wheat is the best thing you can do for yourself! I am an A, and when I started this lifestyle, I ate like a secretor, and lost 16 lbs. and went from a size 12 to a size 8. I've maintained that for 4 years, but then I went through menopause, and thickened in the waist and got kind of "jiggly". I still fit in my size 8 pants, but "things" had "shifted" ::). I treated myself to the secretor test, and WOW! With no effort,  the jigglies are melting away. I do not even miss the wheat, and with 3 O's in my family I am getting more creative at keeping the wheat out of the house!

A good portable beneficial snack for you could be a handful of walnuts with a couple of dried figs. The figs look weird, but are sweet and chewy and taste great with walnuts. I always keep this snack in the console of my truck, so I don't stop for fast food when I am "starving"! Someone suggested jerky as a good snack, and my O's eat a ton of it! Since it is so expensive, my husband makes it out of venison. Enjoy your vacation!

Posted by: Mary M., Friday, July 27, 2007, 4:03pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from lola
look for compliant jerky for protein.....
also the nap bars....

Hi Lola,

Can you please recommend a commercial
compliant beef jerky for 0-nonnies if you know
of one?

The only ones I can find all have sugar in them
and out of desperation I bought a package at
our local whole store and it tasted too sweet!

Thank you.

Posted by: Victoria, Friday, July 27, 2007, 4:31pm; Reply: 34
I'm not Lola, but I've got an answer anyway!  :-)

We bought I $40 dehydrator and make our own.  It's so easy.  You need to be very clean and use the freshest possible meat, keeping it refrigerated until you are ready to work with it.  

Our favorite is ground buffalo, mixed with:
onion and garlic granules
powdered ginger
tamari (wheat-free soy sauce)
a good quality sea salt, such as Himalayan, or Celtic

Work it all into the meat and quickly spread it very thin on the solid sheets, not the grid.  Rotate the shelves every couple of hours for uniform drying.  When dry, but still flexible, remove and cool on a plate,  Then keep refrigerated for safety.
Posted by: Mary M., Friday, July 27, 2007, 7:30pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from Victoria
I'm not Lola, but I've got an answer anyway!
We bought I $40 dehydrator and make our own.

Hi Victoria,
Thank you for answering and for sharing your home-made
recipe for beef jerky. I have looked into making
my own but that was as far as I could make myself
go. Looking into it. I do have a hydrator and your
recipe sounds easy enough but I am hoping to buy
it already to eat.

Still if that's not possible.......

Posted by: sluggerbean, Friday, July 27, 2007, 8:00pm; Reply: 36
Ellen,  I have found that eating a small steak for breakfast really helps.  Usually I get some petite sirloin steaks and grill them.  I put them in the fridge and have one a day (ok sometimes I use one for a snack  :B) This is really handy and can save time in the mornings as you get ready for that dream job that I know will come your way!  :D

I also keep walnuts and figs handy for snacks.

Welcome to the BTD!!  
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Friday, July 27, 2007, 8:33pm; Reply: 37
Cooking up a bunch of salmon patties, or hamburger patties, or ground lamb patties, or turkey patties helps. Also precooking batches or collards, kale, or other leafy greens.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, July 27, 2007, 9:35pm; Reply: 38
I d hook up with Modon and have him ship you the best compliant O jerky around!!! lol
he s the master jerky guy!
I do not know if those are 100% compliant, check and see
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Tuesday, July 31, 2007, 1:13pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from yesimln
Well Day 1 is done and behind me. Yay. I think I did pretty well all things considered. I ended up having grass-fed beef and broccoli for dinner.

Excellent.  Two beneficials, that's the way to do it!  Avoiding avoids is important but ensuring that you get beneficials in you every day is also very important/key.
Quoted from yesimln
I ate 2 of the rice cakes as well. They are bland without the other stuff in them to spice them up although I do like the crunch factor.

Hint:  crumble up your rice cakes and add to them anything you would normally add to popcorn.  They end up being an excellent popcorn substitute!!!
Quoted from yesimln
have to confess, I didn't even think about dinner until very late and then when I did I realized I was starving! Strange. Same thing happened at lunch. I was not hungry, not hungry, not hungry, then STARVED! Is this normal?

Yes, very.  Your body is transitioning/adjusting from running mainly on starchy carbs (like most Americans do) to running mainly on protein.  The thing about protein is, unlike starchy carbs, it is very, very deeply nourishing and satisfying, and lasts a long time, but when it "runs out", it runs out, so you have to be sure to eat a little protein at each meal.  If you have just low-glycemic veggies and not enough protein, you will find you hit a wall at some point.  While it is a better wall than the typical American unsteady blood sugar sitch of "sugar-high-spike-crash-CRAVINGS-for-more-carbs", because it is instead "deep-nourishment-steady-lasts-a-long-time-whoa, where's-the-beef?", nevertheless, you do need to retrain yourself to know when you need to eat protein.  Unlike sugary starches (including ones that don't seem "sugary", such as potato chips, which are higher on the glycemic index than pure table sugar!!!) that leap into your bloodstream and instantly give your blood sugar a spike (later followed by a steep crash), protein takes a little while to be absorbed and utilized, but then it stays with you for quite a while and keeps your blood sugar steady.  However, again, when you need more protein, you need it.  Make sure to allow yourself to have it.  You could order some NAP protein bars (Unibars) for this transitional period so that, if you feel a "protein crash" coming on, you could eat one at any time.

The good news is, the effect won't be as pronounced once you adjust to your new diet fully.  You will naturally get the hang of things and figure out the timing of when you need to eat, etc.  Right now, your body is going through changes and you are noticing the change, specifically, in how your body cycles energy.  It's a good change, but it is still a change, so give yourself plenty of TLC and time to adjust.  The BTD is resetting your biological compass to true north in every way, and part of that is relearning what it feels like to be truly full and satisfied, and the flip side, which is what it feels like to be truly hungry once you get to that point.  You will learn through experience when that point is likely to approach and when you need to eat protein again.
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I have told a number of people I'm doing this and have gotten mixed reviews. Some think it's crazy and total bunk; others are intrigued. I suppose that is normal, eh?

Yup.  You'll find at first that you feel compelled to try to bring the "total bunk" crowd around to your way of thinking, especially as you start feeling better and better, experiencing all the wonderful results of this diet.  But eventually you will realize that the total bunk crowd is determined to continue thinking that the world is flat, and nothing you say or do can convince them that it is, in fact, round.  So, fine, let them be.  *shrug*
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My thinking personally is that this does make sense to me - I know I feel better without wheat and dairy. I've done it before and it definitely improved my digestion.

In the immortal words of Janice Joplin, "You know you got it if it makes you feel good."  ...Of course, she died of a drug overdose, but why split hairs?
;) ;D
Posted by: Rex, Wednesday, August 1, 2007, 5:39pm; Reply: 40
Hi Ellen, This is a great place to be.  Lots of support & lots of great advise.  Good luck as you start on your journey to a healthier you.
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Thursday, August 2, 2007, 3:09pm; Reply: 41
Okay well I restarted the BTD yesterday. Wisconsin was a diet nightmare for so many reasons I can't begin to recount. Not the least of which was that there was basically communal eating and none of it was compliant. I avoided dairy - not easy to do in Wisconsin! And I ate fruits and vegetables. But these people exist on pork and wheat it seems so like I said, I restarted the diet yesterday. I did do very well on my "vigorous" exercise - tennis, hiking, running, swimming, kayaking... very physical trip.

I have to confess I was a bit depressed about BDT in Wisconsin. Food is so social in our culture. The idea of eating something totally different from the crowd really seemed completely impossible from several different perspectives - 1 because I wasn't in charge of the kitchen and 2 because it seemed really LONELY to me (in retrospect - honestly I never seriously considered not eating along with the crowd because of point 1). Anyway, can anyone else relate to this lonely feeling? Or am I just a crazy girl?

Anyway, I am back on track after a good shopping trip. I need to make a concerted effort to eat more veggie-beneficials. Oh, speaking of which.... get this: got a voicemail yesterday from an organic farm nearby. The naturopath is sending me a gift basket from them. I'm really floored by her.

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, August 2, 2007, 3:30pm; Reply: 42
it does get lonely.....but here s where you can come and hang out and rant!! lol
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Friday, August 3, 2007, 9:51pm; Reply: 43
Well that's just what I'll do then!

I'm doing well on my eating today. I had a steak for breakfast with some mango juice (no sugar added - all natural) and then a big salad for lunch with grilled chicken breast and then some blueberries for a snack. And I'm almost done with the personally-required gallon of water so all in all a good food day. Also got in a good workout today... trainer for an hour and then I also did a mile + on the ellyptical and 1.5 miles on the treadmill. Burned about 750 calories in my 90 minute workout. Not too bad, although I realize we don't exactly count calories here! I haven't decided on dinner yet. I may go to the list and check out different beneficials to consider... I know I'm supposed to eat meat but I tell ya, having had it for 2 meals already today it's starting to feel a little much!

That said, I weighed myself this morning and I was down 3lbs... so I lost the 2.5lbs I gained in Wisconsin plus another 1/2. If I can lose 2 more before I see the ND next Wednesday (which btw is my official weigh day) then I'll be thrilled.

Posted by: Don, Friday, August 3, 2007, 10:16pm; Reply: 44
Eat more carbs and less protein at dinner versus your other meals, particularly after all that exercise. Try some of the carb rich vegetables, like sweet potatoes, parsnips, onions, etc.
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Friday, August 3, 2007, 11:18pm; Reply: 45
Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely do that. Ellen
Posted by: Lola, Friday, August 3, 2007, 11:27pm; Reply: 46
great results!
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Saturday, August 4, 2007, 12:53am; Reply: 47
A friend has just asked me to meet her at Panera Bread for dinner. Of course I have already eaten so I'm just going for company. Talk about jumping into the fire, eh? I am bringing a 32 oz water with me to keep me occupied while she eats. No cookies no cookies no cookies. No worries. I'm not even hungry.

Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 4, 2007, 1:02am; Reply: 48
you ll make it fine!!
enjoy the conversation!
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Saturday, August 4, 2007, 4:23am; Reply: 49
I made it thru 2 tests just fine. Panera Bread - no worries. I just brought my own water jug and I refilled it while I was there as well and we chatted. Since I had already eaten dinner, I didn't feel anti-social or anything. And I told her about my new way of eating and she was very supportive. After that we went to another friend's house... they are notorious food and drink pushers. I said no to the margaritas being offered up over and over again, and no to the coffee. Then they brought out a big box of Fannie Mae chocolates. And I really wasn't hungry so I didn't even feel tempted. But I was glad I had my water to hold onto to keep me from mindlessly eating!

Now of course I am hungry, so I think I'll eat some blueberries before I go to bed. Have a great evening everyone!

Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, August 4, 2007, 5:05am; Reply: 50
Maybe you can ask your friends for a glass of red wine.  ?  :-)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 4, 2007, 5:36am; Reply: 51
that was quite a test of willpower!
Posted by: 1138 (Guest), Saturday, August 4, 2007, 4:51pm; Reply: 52
Yes to the Red Wine... except I really didn't want anything. So honestly alcohol was the easiest thing to avoid. Chocolate on the other hand... Lola is right: it was quite a test of will power!

Steak and eggs with spinach for brunch. Followed by blueberries. I ate a banana on my way to the gym for Step class (where I burned 550 calories). Now I've got to prepare for a job interview on Monday. Fun times.

Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 4, 2007, 5:04pm; Reply: 53
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