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Posted by: 992 (Guest), Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 1:07pm
Typebase says cherries are beneficial for nearly everybody. But it doesn't specify by type of cherry.

The kind that I can get, fresh, are dark and sweet, or the similar-shape yellow ones with red blotches (also sweet).

The kind of juice I can get is Black Cherry.Makes a really good breakfast shake with some banana or pineapple as thickener, a scoop or two of egg protein powder, a wee drizzle of walnut oil... but I digress.

The kind of dried cherries I can get........ dunno..... but they look mighty dark in their raisin form. Them, I can eat like candy, out-of-hand (so I try to minimize), or they make a good addition to oatmeal.

Recently, there's been some media hoo-ha about bright-red (light red) TART cherries being ever-so actively good for us all. I don't know where to get them. Local stores do not carry ANY kind of frozen cherries, and I've never seen tart red cherries fresh.  Still, I would begin aggressively seeking sources for them if it turned out they were better for me than the dark cherries.

So, the question is: has anybody compared the relative merits?

Does anybody consume tart red cherries, straight-up? I think that I'd need to add sweetener of some sort (sugar? honey? maple syrup?) to make 'em palatable, which might counteract some of the much-hyped goodness that I hear about.

I'm interested in any info or sage comments about the relative merits of dark cherries (yum) versus the recently-hyped tart red cherries.

Any thoughts?

Kevin (in Ottawa, Canada)
Posted by: Debra+, Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 1:46pm; Reply: 1
Hey kevinmcl(fellow Canadian)...in the Live Right Book and the Encyclopedia under Cherry it says (all) are beneficial for us.  Not sure if this was just an oversight on the typebase or not.  I eat pretty well any kind I can get...even choke cherries which are very much in abundance up this way.  (and organic)   ;)

Debra :)
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 8:26pm; Reply: 2
Hi Kevin ,
I know morello cherry, deep red, softer and tarter then the other Kind of cherries and sour cherries lght red, very tart and soft;  They make a wonderful syrup to pour on icecreas and desserts, but I like them plain also if they are tarter. this is not a commercial opinion as I find them in the shop once o twice in a year.

Maria Giovanna
Posted by: MzMoonpie, Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 8:50pm; Reply: 3
Sour cherries (little red tart ones) are also often called pie cherries.  
Posted by: Lloyd, Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 8:55pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from kevinmcl


The kind of dried cherries I can get........ dunno..... but they look mighty dark in their raisin form. Them, I can eat like candy, out-of-hand (so I try to minimize), or they make a good addition to oatmeal.

Any thoughts?

Kevin (in Ottawa, Canada)


Be careful with these as they usually contain avoids (corn syrup or other sweetener).
Posted by: Brighid45, Wednesday, July 25, 2007, 11:48pm; Reply: 5
Tart red cherries or 'pie' cherries can be hard to find. Sometimes you can find canned tart cherries packed in water, but they're often very expensive; the canned pie filling is mostly high fructose corn syrup with a ton of red food coloring, and very little fruit. Nasty stuff! I grew up eating my grandma's real cherry pie, which spoiled me for the canned junk forever. Fellow Michiganders know what I mean--some of the finest cherry orchards in the world grow on the west side of the state, and there are cherry festivals all over Michigan in the summertime.

Anyway, Edenfoods sells cherry concentrate and dried cherries, but I think one or both have apple juice in them. Still, they're a good alternative to the commercial stuff. Knudsen's also does a seasonal product called Just Juice, and tart cherry is one they make. It's just cherry juice, nothing added--great to put in smoothies, sparkling mineral water sodas, and so on.

Black cherry juice is sweeter but also good for you, so if you can't get tart cherry, black cherry is okay. Get whatever is available and enjoy. :)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 7:10am; Reply: 6
Ive got a small tart black cherry in my garden- it is wonderfull in jams- pies and  cakes. Sadly enough the birds like them as well :-( It is an old varity used to be grown for wine and juice drinks and you dont see at that often anymore the fruits are vey small only about 2 grams each and when you pick them you fingers get dark purple.
We never see the sour cherries fresh in the shops while big sweet cherries both black, yellow with red are common in the shops. As you can see here the sweet cherry and the sour cherry is really quite differnt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sour_Cherry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 7:57pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
Sadly enough the birds like them as well :-(


A tree netting is great for reducing the bird population in your fruit tree.  It can be a bit of a pain installing/removing the net, but it saves a tremendous amount of fruit.
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 9:58pm; Reply: 8
I'm lucky because I can find organic dried unsweetened tart cherries at my local hfs. I love to have them in salads.
Posted by: Schluggell, Friday, July 27, 2007, 8:00am; Reply: 9
Personally I like the Tart Pie cherries - Even the Wild Cherries are good to my tastes.

But any cherry qualifies for my "Top-10 Fruits Ever" List....
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, July 27, 2007, 10:54am; Reply: 10
Quoted from ABJoe


A tree netting is great for reducing the bird population in your fruit tree. It can be a bit of a pain installing/removing the net, but it saves a tremendous amount of fruit.


True but I only had net enough for my sweet cherry tree :-(

Posted by: italybound, Friday, July 27, 2007, 12:19pm; Reply: 11
about tart cherries..........they have canned tart cherries in water at my groc store. I have a fabulous recipe for cherry pudding. why it's called THAT I dont know because it's really more like cherry upside down cake. It's such a snap to make and w/ the spelt it should turn out really well. If anyone wants it, let me know.  ;)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, July 27, 2007, 12:48pm; Reply: 12
yes please....
Im making the most awsome chocolate cake at the moment - but next weekend would be great ;-)
Posted by: ruthie, Friday, July 27, 2007, 12:54pm; Reply: 13
I grew up eating cherry pies and cobblers and never knew there was any other kind.  Of course the crust was made with lard and a ton of sugar in them.
When I was grown and moved away from my insulated life and discovered bing cherries...what a revelation...you could actually eat them raw...pie cherries would just about lock your jaws.
Raw cherries are my favorite way to eat them, but oh are they ever expensive...but hey it's only money and good health is cheap in the long run.
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: italybound, Friday, July 27, 2007, 1:28pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
Im making the most awsome chocolate cake at the moment -


would you post the recipe please :-)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, July 27, 2007, 2:39pm; Reply: 15
Sure but it is a real baddie :o

Chocolate brownies -not for the weak ;-D

300 g ghee / 10,6 oz
75 ml water 2.5 fl oz
375 g dark chocolate 70 % 13,2 oz
1 tsp salt
6 large eggs
1 tsp vanilla
400 gr sugar 14 oz sugar
225 g white spelt flour 8 oz
300 gram walnuts chopped 10.6

cake tray with buttered paper 33 x 33 cm

preheat oven to 180c / 356 F

beat sugar and eggs untill foamy
add melted ghee, chocolate,
stir in carefully flour, salt, vanilla, water and walnuts.

Bake aprox 25 minutes - maybe more depending how sticky you like them.

Can be frozen and you might need to !!!
this makes 48 pieces- depending on greed :B
nice wih other nuts or some dry cherries.

And no I do NOT plan on eating them all by myself ;-D - bringing them to a party !
Posted by: Lola, Friday, July 27, 2007, 8:11pm; Reply: 16
my lips are sealed!!  lol
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Saturday, July 28, 2007, 7:17am; Reply: 17
;-)
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, July 28, 2007, 2:08pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
yes please.... (re: the cherry pudding recipe)


Cherry Pudding

1 Stick butter or equivalent of ghee
1 C. white spelt flour
1-1/2 t. baking powder
3/4 C agave nectar
1/8 t salt
3/4 rice, almond, soy or cow ;) milk
1 can (19oz) tart cherries (in water) undrained

Melt butter in baking dish. Mix next 5 ingredients, stir until smooth. Do use all of the sweetener in this recipe as it offsets the tartness of the cherries. Pour into the center of melted butter (it will spread on its own). Pour cherries, including juice, over batter.
Bake in 400 degree oven 30 minutes or until done.

If anyone tries it, let us know how you liked it. ;-)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 28, 2007, 3:29pm; Reply: 19
so easy!!
thanks for sharing IB........
with this kind of basic recipe, I bet one can make all imaginable fruit pies!
no more excuses! everybody start baking!!!  LOL
lucky secretors with no health issues!!!
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, July 28, 2007, 7:01pm; Reply: 20
Lucky people who do well with flour and lots of sweeteners!  :-)
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