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Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 6:47pm
What's the best type of protein powder and is it safe to eat yogurt since it's more digestible than plain milk?

Thanks!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 20, 2007, 6:50pm; Reply: 1
Welcome, pcpwns!

The best type of protein powder is the NAP Protein Blend, as it is formulated to work with your blood type:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT010

If you will select an "avatar" by going into the Member Center (top right of your screen, click on "Member Center" button, then click on "avatar settings"), then we can advise you if yogurt would be beneficial, neutral or to be avoided by your type.  The avatar will show other members at a glance what your blood type is, so we can give you the best advice possible.

Since we don't know your type yet, here is a link to the Typebase information page on yogurt, including its ratings for all the types:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?462

You can click on Typebase to find out about a specific food and if it is good for your type or not.

:)

Again, WELCOME!
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 6:54pm; Reply: 2
Thanks for the answer and the welcoming. I set up my avatar now too.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 20, 2007, 6:55pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from pcpwns
Thanks for the answer and the welcoming. I set up my avatar now too.

So you did!  Well done!   :D  Welcome, fellow O!  I edited my post to add a tad more info, if you want to glance at it again.

If you have any other questions, comments, or whatever, we just love helping newbies around here (yes, many of us do indeed need to get lives *lol*).  Ask away!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 20, 2007, 6:59pm; Reply: 4
P.S.  By the way, sadly, since you are Type O, yogurt is really not a good thing for you to chose to eat.  It is a dairy product and those tend to cause inflamation in us O's, everywhere from our upper-respiratory tracts to our digestive systems.  However, if you want to have a little plain yogurt every so often, at least you will be getting some nice probiotics and calcium.  Add your own fruit, so that you don't end up with corn syrup, which is ten times worse than dairy could ever hope to be.  So, a little plain yogurt every so often probably wouldn't hurt you, but as a general rule, it should be avoided by us Type O's, as should most dairy products.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:02pm; Reply: 5
Okay. hmmm, if I have to avoid dairy and I just don't want soymilk, what other types of milk are there? You're a big help and I find that typebase4 place beneficial to say the least. =]
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:22pm; Reply: 6
Are you wanting a milk substitute to drink or to put on cereal or what?  By the way, let me say that I'm an idiot for not realizing you were Type O because--DUH--you said that you are Type O right in your original subject line--my bad!  But anyway, it is good to have your avatar in there because from now on, everyone can respond to you with customized advice based on your blood type, which is what this diet is all about, afterall.

Okay, back to the milk substitute situation:

If it is that you are wanting something to put on your cereal, a lot of us find that 100% fruit juices (such as pineapple) are excellent on cereals.

If it is that you feel you will miss drinking milk, things get a little more complicated.  Maybe someone will have a good suggestion for you there, my brain seems to be shutting down for the day (and it is only 3:22 p.m....not good!).
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:24pm; Reply: 7
Wait a minute, my brain woke back up:  You may enjoy almond milk, just read the labels and try not to get one with avoids in it (easier said than done!).  Some folks make their own homemade almond milk and I think there might be recipes kicking around here somewhere in the recipe section of the site, or in the Cook Right for Your Type forum on the message boards here.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:24pm; Reply: 8
well, i need to mix my protein powder in something. I have always been a big milk drinker. and I'm going to try making pancakes with flaxseed meal and some kind of milk.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:29pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from pcpwns
well, i need to mix my protein powder in something. I have always been a big milk drinker. and I'm going to try making pancakes with flaxseed meal and some kind of milk.

As for the protein powder, I would go with mixing it into pineapple juice or, better yet, into a lovely, beneficial, O-invigorating smoothie such as my fave:

- About 1 cup or a tad more of 100% pure pinapple juice
- 1 or two ripe bananas
- About half a bag of frozen raspberries
- Optional:  A good splash of Tree of Life 100% pure concord grape concentrate or black cherry concentrate

Put that lot into a blender and PUREE!  You could certainly add the protein powder to that and be off to the races!

As for the pancakes, let me get my bestest bud/BFF, Brighid45 in on this, as she is a cook extraordinaire and she is greatly creative at figuring out what BTD-friendly ingredient would work in what.  Let me try to track her down and direct her to this thread...stay tuned to this channel for breaking news...

Posted by: Don, Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:30pm; Reply: 10
You can also use rice milk and almond milk, but all of the commercial products seem to have avoids in them.

One thing to look for and avoid is carrageenan. You can check TYPEbase 4 for information about Carrageenan.

If you consider using soy milk you can't shop for soy milk by just brand. You have to be more specific than that because no brand offers all of their varieties in avoid free form. There are a few soy milks that are OK.

Edensoy Organic Unsweetened
WestSoy Organic Unsweetened
WestSoy Organic Unsweetened Vanilla

There may be a few others that are OK like these sweetened ones, but check to make sure the sweetener and any other ingredients are OK for your ABO type and secretor status.:

WestSoy Organic Original (sweetened)
Soy Dreams original or vanilla
Posted by: KimonoKat, Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:35pm; Reply: 11
Trader Joe's has an unsweetened soy milk.  Just soybeans and water.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 7:39pm; Reply: 12
Thank you all. Right now, I'm still taking in all this info lol..I don't think I have ever tasted pineapple juice. Oh and for the carrageenan, I know for a fact that's in my toothpaste. I guess its okay since I don't swallow it. awesome help in these forums, thats for sure.. =]
Posted by: Brighid45, Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:07pm; Reply: 13
Hello pcpwns, nice to meet you :)

I use almond or rice milk as a sub for cow's milk. Both are a bit thinner than dairy, but work pretty well in recipes. Either one is good in a pancake recipe. Almond milk is especially nice as it lends its delicious flavor to the batter.

It can be difficult to find an almond milk without avoids. Since I use it fairly infrequently, I use a commercial almond milk and don't worry too much about the small amount of avoids in it. If you want to make your own almond milk, check Typebase for a recipe, or do a google search for 'making almond milk'. It's a fairly simple process.

Rice milk is somewhat easier to find without avoids. I believe Westbrae makes a very pure rice milk, but I haven't checked their ingredient list for a while now. Again, if you want to make your own, check Typebase or do a google search. Rice milk is also easy to make.

Hope this helps :) Welcome to the board. I look forward to your posts.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 8:14pm; Reply: 14
Thank you. I will try all 3. I have tried soy before, but it's time for another round. And, the final question. Apple Cider Vinegar. If I "balance" the pH with baking soda, is it relatively safe to drink?
I did see that vinegar is bad for O's but I want to keep drinking ACV.
Posted by: Don, Friday, July 20, 2007, 9:16pm; Reply: 15
If you are a type O secretor, then Apple Cider Vinegar is neutral.

If you are a type O non-secretor, then ACV is an avoid.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Friday, July 20, 2007, 9:18pm; Reply: 16
Well, I'll tell myself that I'm a secretor even though I do not know. What does secretor mean anyways?
Posted by: Don, Friday, July 20, 2007, 9:23pm; Reply: 17
You can start with the Secretor info and links in the Tutorial.

Quoted from Secretors and Non-secretors: An overview and preview of the new saliva-based secretor test
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/store3/template2/secretor.htm
…having information about your Secretor/Non-secretor status might be a valuable piece of health information. While, unfortunately, the news for Non-secretors is not as rosy, it is better to have information. With information comes knowledge. And with knowledge, comes the ability to intervene.
...
In addition to allowing important diet refinements, knowing your secretor status can help you use nutritional supplements more effectively and intelligently while adding to your awareness of illness and metabolic dysfunction you may be prone to because of your secretor genetics.

If you are in the USA the secretor test kit can be gotten directly from NAP.

You collect the saliva needed for the secretor test at home, but the sample needs to be returned to the lab for results to be obtained.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, July 20, 2007, 10:57pm; Reply: 18
check recibase for more recipe ideas
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipes.htm
Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, July 21, 2007, 1:42am; Reply: 19
Welcome, pcpwns, I used to make nice pancakes from soymilk, canola oil, egg, spelt flour, etc., til I found out I was a non-secretor & stopped making them (& my health improved even more).
Welcome, and don't worry about information overload - we all go through it - and come out happier & healthier on the other side! ;D
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Saturday, July 21, 2007, 1:56am; Reply: 20
pcpwns,

The whole "secretor" thing, as I understand it, is like whether or not a given dog is the type that sheds.  

Most dogs shed their fur.  And, in just this fashion, most people (~85%) "shed" their blood type antigen off into their bodily fluids, in the specialized regions where secretions usually take place: the mouth saliva, the gut mucus, the sexual fluids.  In most people, these body secretions also contain their blood type antigen molecule.  These people are the "secretors".

But, just as there are a small percentage of dog breeds which do not shed, there is also a small percentage of people (~15%) who do not shed their antigen into their secretions.  These are the "nonsecretors".

From what I understand, this ability to secrete is a lot like laying mines on a field or in an ocean: it destroys the enemy for you without your having to be there and work so hard... the floating antigen pre-emptively "binds out" the incoming nasties that would otherwise bind to your body's own blood type antigens, as they would normally be strictly adhered to the cell surfaces only if there was no secretion.  Once this binding happens, it just causes everything to gum up and throw off your whole smooth functioning, energy, and metabolism.  In general, you'd feel like, well, c**p.

But, for people who do not secrete, their immune cells have to actually expend the extra energy to meet the enemy head-on.  And, while it seems like this second way might purely represent a disadvantage, I imagine that it might allow for a much more accurate immune response.

Anyhow, I hope that helps.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Saturday, July 21, 2007, 2:00am; Reply: 21
Thanks everybody! Excellent explanation Ron-o-Non =]
Posted by: jayneeo, Saturday, July 21, 2007, 3:48am; Reply: 22
pcpawns....not to overload you, but I want to suggest a protein powder: simply whites, by bioplex. This rocks.
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Saturday, July 21, 2007, 4:03am; Reply: 23
I like it. Dr. D's powder was kind of a rice protein which I usually don't hear of often. I can relate to egg protein.
Posted by: 782 (Guest), Saturday, July 21, 2007, 2:26pm; Reply: 24
If you aren't ready to mail-order to get the O protein powder, there is a nice rice protein powder - NutraBiotic... very light... this is my favorite. It's sold at regular health food stores and probably WholeFoods though not 100% sure they still stock it. (It could also thicken up whatever milk substitute you decide on, if it needs it.)
http://www.vitacost.com/NutriBioticVeganRiceProteinPowder
Posted by: 661 (Guest), Saturday, July 21, 2007, 2:27pm; Reply: 25
I think thats a winner. The price is right.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 3:19pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Ronagon
pcpwns,

The whole "secretor" thing, as I understand it, is like whether or not a given dog is the type that sheds.  

Most dogs shed their fur.  And, in just this fashion, most people (~85%) "shed" their blood type antigen off into their bodily fluids, in the specialized regions where secretions usually take place: the mouth saliva, the gut mucus, the sexual fluids.  In most people, these body secretions also contain their blood type antigen molecule.  These people are the "secretors".

But, just as there are a small percentage of dog breeds which do not shed, there is also a small percentage of people (~15%) who do not shed their antigen into their secretions.  These are the "nonsecretors".

From what I understand, this ability to secrete is a lot like laying mines on a field or in an ocean: it destroys the enemy for you without your having to be there and work so hard... the floating antigen pre-emptively "binds out" the incoming nasties that would otherwise bind to your body's own blood type antigens, as they would normally be strictly adhered to the cell surfaces only if there was no secretion.  Once this binding happens, it just causes everything to gum up and throw off your whole smooth functioning, energy, and metabolism.  In general, you'd feel like, well, c**p.

But, for people who do not secrete, their immune cells have to actually expend the extra energy to meet the enemy head-on.  And, while it seems like this second way might purely represent a disadvantage, I imagine that it might allow for a much more accurate immune response.

Anyhow, I hope that helps.

Ron-O-Non:  That was right up there as a contender for Best Post Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(clap)
Posted by: geminisue, Thursday, July 26, 2007, 3:22pm; Reply: 27
I agree I now understand the need for the test.  Thank You!
Posted by: Becky, Monday, July 30, 2007, 1:28pm; Reply: 28
Welcome aboard pcpwns!  I may have said that some place else before.

As for the milk thing, if you are a secretor I would try the soy milk too.  I just loved my soy milk, but as a nonnie, I had to give it up.

Also, as far as protien goes, I'd rather toss another piece of meat on the grill than drink the powders.  Never found many I liked, except of course the "soy" ones !!  LOL!
Posted by: 296 (Guest), Monday, July 30, 2007, 9:06pm; Reply: 29
If you can stand another milk suggestion....

For smoothies, I start with a base of FROZEN chopped bananas, and water.  Frozen bananas are nice and cold so you don't have to add ice cubes; plus they make a sweet, somewhat thick liquid when blended with water, which I find is somewhat milk-like.

I always have frozen bananas in the fridge.  (Well, except for right now: my middle child is on a smoothie kick lately, so I have to go restock.)  Anytime I'm at the grocery store, no matter what I originally went in there for, I always check the produce aisles for those bags of spotty bananas they like to get rid of for cheap.  One small bag for 99 cents yields me 2 gallon-sized freezer bags full of banana chunks.  I lay the bags flat in the freezer and if there's time, about an hour or so later, before they're frozen solid, I'll pull out the bags and break up the banana chunks into smaller bits - easier for blending.

Really, frozen banana chunks are a marvelous thing.  At least for me.  

Cheri a.k.a. "The Smoothie Queen"
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