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Posted by: 971 (Guest), Friday, May 4, 2007, 3:33pm
Something really scarey happened to me last night,I sat up late,and fell asleep on the couch,I woke up to some tight/sore feelings in my chest area.It was really uncomfortable.I had a glass of water then went to bed.When I went to bed I noticed my heart was racing,and my pulse was rapid,I tried to just lay still hoping it would decrease.About 10-15 mins later,I feel sort of sick to my stomach,and then A terrible feeling of doom came over me and a sensation that my heart was flipping and I was going to faint.Paniced I shot out of bed and walked around the room,I thought perhaps I was going into shock because I was reacting to something I ate.

I am 27 years old,and Obese,heart disease does run in my family,but about 2 yrs ago I had similar episodes without the chest pains,they did the EKG and stress test and told me I was fine but my blood pressure was high.I had to be hospitalized,they couldn't figure out what was going on,they tested me for everything and monitored my heart rate for 24 hours.Their only advice was a salt restricted diet,and told me to loose weight! (DUH)Everything was pretty much blamed on my weight.They said they didn't want to put me on beta blockers because I was only in my 20's.I agreed I didnt want to take beta blockers!
Well the problems only grew worse,I was taken to the emergency room several times,they told me to go to a neurologist (EXPENSIVE) AND i dont have insurance.So I went to an Internist who finnally found the problem.By this point my whole body was shaking I could barely walk and I was terrified and crying.

It took them 5 months to figure out I was experiencing vertigo and gave me a steroid shot and anti-vert.It took 6 months for me to recover from the vertigo and once it was under control my blood pressure went normal.
The last check up at the doctor my BP was slightly high,doctors listen to my heart and tell me everything seems normal I must have some type of inflammation.
I still get these episodes once every so often where I feel like my chest is hurting my heart starts racing and I feel like I am passing out,so far no doctor has been able to explain this event!

Last night was so scarey to me and I pray to God nothing is wrong with my heart I did eat some Amaranth snacks and I am suspicious that perhaps im allergic to Amaranth because its not something I have eaten ever I was just experimenting and the last 2 times I ate the snacks I got a flushing or hot feeling in my body,but then I got this reaction and I am wondering if perhaps I had an allergic response,or if my vertigo is back. I am really scared.

Does anyone have any advice or hunches here???As I am sitting here I am feeling some pain like sensations right in the middle of my breasts on my chest.I don't know what to do? I know I have slightly high cholosterol,slightly low thyroid hormone,and I do have PCOS,CFIDS,AND Chemical sensitivity.I feel like if I go to the doctor they are just going to tell me TO LOOSE WEIGHT and that everything is FINE.Last time they told me to go on a HIGH CARB LOW FAT DIET to control my cholosterol when thats the EXACT diet I was on being a veg.

I am really scared everyone :-(
Posted by: 1192 (Guest), Friday, May 4, 2007, 4:04pm; Reply: 1
wow, i would def. go get checked out, to rule out heart problems.  i mean, at least you'll have piece of mind either way, you'll know.  you're scared because right now you don't know... i doubt anyone here is qualified to give you a diagnosis over the internet...  good luck.  
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, May 4, 2007, 4:04pm; Reply: 2
I hope you will seek medical advice if this continues.  We are not able to give you genuine medical care around here, although we want to help in any way we can to improve each other's quality of life.  Please don't wait around if you feel that this is life threatening.  Money is not worth your life.

For the long haul (the Big Picture).  I advise you to take the advice of whomever told you to take off the weight.  Whatever you have to do to motivate yourself, do it.  If you want a long life, excess weight is not your friend.  You would benefit from getting a copy of one or more of the Health Library series, whichever one(s) relate most to you, and work the program 100%, eating from the super beneficial and beneficial category only.  This is your life you are dealing with.

I wish you well, and genuinely hope that this episode is nothing serious, but is strong enough to motivate you to go after your Wellness full steam.  No amount of doctors and medicine will save you if you don't save you!
Posted by: Lola, Friday, May 4, 2007, 4:25pm; Reply: 3
food lists in the cardio book are more targeted......
follow the advice given, asap!

have you done your secretor test yet?
Posted by: 971 (Guest), Friday, May 4, 2007, 4:35pm; Reply: 4
iam not looking for a diagnosis and if you read my post above u will see that I have had heart tests and they said it was fine i dont have another 9,000 to blow on tests :-(.
Im just looking to see if anyone has some advice or hunch as to what is going on here,I have an appointment to talk to my doc next thursday.I have been on strict dieting for yrs trying to take off the weight,I have endocrine probs and PCOS.i hardly eat anything,since im allergic to most food.So its not an issue of motivation or willpower here.
I cant afford to go from doctor to doctor spending thousands on tests that reveal nothing.
Im not asking for a diagnosis or medical advice.Perhaps someone has gone through something similar and can tell me a direction i could try.Please don't assume im looking for a diagnosis.
Posted by: Vicki, Friday, May 4, 2007, 4:58pm; Reply: 5
Sounds like sleep apnea...could you have a sleep study done?
Posted by: Vicki, Friday, May 4, 2007, 5:02pm; Reply: 6
Occasionally I've seen a CPAP offered on  One of the best ways to deal with sleep apnea is losing the excess weight.  Takes motivation and excellent info from Live Right For Your Type (library).  So that answer will cost you the least.  A regular exercise routine will help your well being.  See how much a sleep study would cost!  I wonder if you could have a layman sleep study done at home?  Even an old camcorder could help.  Or a relative willing to stay up all night to note your respiration and blood pressure throughout the evening.
Posted by: Vicki, Friday, May 4, 2007, 5:04pm; Reply: 7
Eating is important for weight loss.  Healing foods can help repair damage from leaky gut.  Leaky gut causes whole proteins to pass directly through your digestive system.  This results in many "allergies" but time and healing foods can help you repair that digestive system reducing sensitivity as the proteins don't enter your body without the normal process anymore.
Posted by: Vicki, Friday, May 4, 2007, 5:05pm; Reply: 8
BTW, I state this after seeing a show called hrm.....Mystery Diagnosis.  A man was in a similar situation. He went to the hospital many times thinking he was having a heart attack but nothing showed up on the tests....he was in serious trouble - they referred him for psychological counseling!  Turns out he had sleep apnea.  Anyway....hope his story helps you!
Posted by: 971 (Guest), Friday, May 4, 2007, 5:11pm; Reply: 9
It could have been anxiety i had a huge fight with someone that day,and im under allot of stress.Iread the symptoms of sleep apnea,except the snoring,im not a snorer.And i can confirm that as family and friends have seen me sleeping and told me I don't snore at all,I do know that my maternal uncle has sleep apnea and sleeps with a resperator,and my cousin died of sleep apnea when she was around 29-30. So that is really scarey! i will ask my doc about this when i go,i have so much going on in my system is its difficult to go get every body part tested (financially).I ALSO need gallstone surgery,colonoscopy,heart test and now sleep study..UGH! I NEED INSURANCE,this month I have thousands of dollars of dental work I need done.I can't afford to do all of this at once :-( SECRETOR status test (when i can afford it.)
Posted by: Vicki, Friday, May 4, 2007, 5:15pm; Reply: 10
There is a gall bladder flush that many have done but you may want to see what problems resolve from this way of eating, stress relief and exercise.
Posted by: geminisue, Friday, May 4, 2007, 6:04pm; Reply: 11
Do you qualify to get on medicaid?  Do  you live where their is a hospital that you can pay on a sliding scale for test, or not at all if you qualify.  Can you get tempoary Hospitalization a three month policy so you can have done what you have to Call and check with your hospitals.  They don't just leave people not cared for at all, do they? Hospitals have to do so much charity work each year.  Emergency room- emergency operation- minimal payments made- they will usually write off before the end of the year.Do you have gaul stones or an inflamed gaul bladder? The second can usually be taken care of without surgery, I do believe.  Check of the CureZone for help with this matter, if you want to.  
Posted by: colojd, Friday, May 4, 2007, 8:20pm; Reply: 12
I think sleep apnea is being diagnosed a lot now for things that the doctors cannot figure out. However do try to sleep using a wedge pillow. There is a doctor who wrote a book, think it is called "Get it up" (meaning your head) by Barry Ross Singer. I read an article where he says just using a wedge pillow helps tremendously for a number of medical problems like apnea, acid reflux and migraines. My husband gets cluster migraines in the spring or summer so we both bought a wedge pillow to sleep on. They take some practice to get used to but I do think that it helps in a lot of ways. The doctor who wrote the book said that many disorders like apnea are due to us sleeping flat on too soft pillows, which nature did not intend. You can find these pillows at any store like Bed, Bath and Beyond.

Also, I think the heart racing could also possibly be due to your thyroid being off. A lot of people have thyroid problems these days due to all of the additivies and other things in our food sources. That could also explain weight problems. Check around in your community to see if there are any health fairs going on. A lot of larger communities have these and you can get things like blood profiles done at low or no cost. Trying to eat as many beneficials as possible will help strengthen your immune system and maybe help your thyroid heal itself, if that is the problem.

I don't know how old you are, but have heard that approaching menopause can cause symptoms of the heart racing. I guess it the the changes of hormones going on.
Posted by: Vicki, Friday, May 4, 2007, 10:41pm; Reply: 13
The person on Mystery Diagnosis was confirmed with serious sleep apnea and treatment resolved his problems.
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, May 5, 2007, 2:23am; Reply: 14
Please get checked out when you can. Some of that from what I understand or have been thru does sound like heart issues and also apnea. It's really scary when you don't have answers. Been there. I can sure feel for you...............hope you'll be able to find a doctor or clinic to help you out.
P.S. are you on any meds, especially new meds?
Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, May 5, 2007, 2:45am; Reply: 15
My Mister has sleep apnea big time, and he >>>almost never <<<<<snores. The Blood Type Diet has improved his apnea, lessening it. That means *I* get to sleep more  ;D And my own heart races & flutters alot when I eat some avoids. It used to race & I'd have panic attacks alot before I embraced the BTD lifestyle. The more Mr. OSuzanna & I stay away from avoids, the better we feel in many ways. I know that sounds vague, but I gave a couple examples that seemed relevant.
You need to look for low-income health care - it's out there, you just have to look hard to find it sometimes.
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Saturday, May 5, 2007, 7:36am; Reply: 16

1) take the secretor test.  HUGELY important, because nonnies have more problem with heart disease.

2) try Dr. D's anti-stress protocol for O's.  It includes rhodiola and valerian as its first two ingredients.  And, if you're a non-secretor, it includes maitake mushroom and 5-HTP as well.
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Saturday, May 5, 2007, 7:39am; Reply: 17

Also, I was having the same problems.  I finally ended up going to the emergency room over it.  They tested me and everything.  They ran an EKG, xrays and blood work.  All negative.

They did, however, put a 2 milligram tablet of Ativan in my hand -- it's a powerful anti-anxiety drug -- and that magical little sucker totally took away my chest and arm pains.  Turns out, I have a generalized anxiety disorder.  Dr. D's protocol has helped immensely in this respect.

This is why I recommend it so highly.

PS:  I've heard that maitake mushrooms play some role in neutralizing excess blood sugar.  Perhaps by removing blood sugar, they de-fuel nerve and muscle cells that are flooded with glucose and overfiring or something.  Nonnies have a genetic insufficiency in processing away sugars and carbohydrates and, for this reason, I suppose that's why they're prone to diabetes and heart attack.  But, ultimately, I don't know for sure.
Posted by: Joyce, Saturday, May 5, 2007, 3:58pm; Reply: 18

If you had some reflux due to lying down after eating/drinking that could cause your heart to race.
Stick with the diet and eat small and often, but not within a couple of hours of lying down - and/or prop up the head end of your bed.
If that fails try a small amount of gaviscon last thing before lying down.

Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, May 5, 2007, 6:59pm; Reply: 19
Would you like to give us an idea of what you eat throughout your day?  Maybe we can help you fine tune your diet to include enough healing foods.  If you are eating very little due to digestive problems, you may be suffering from nutritional deficiencies.
Posted by: 971 (Guest), Saturday, May 5, 2007, 10:37pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Victoria
Would you like to give us an idea of what you eat throughout your day?  Maybe we can help you fine tune your diet to include enough healing foods.  If you are eating very little due to digestive problems, you may be suffering from nutritional deficiencies.

Hi Victoria :-) Yes I do suffer from nutritional defficiencies,and finding food I can tolerate is a big challenge.I have been tested and found to be low in Iron,b-vitamins especially b-12,magnesium and other taking a hypoallergenic mineral product and building my tolerance slowly as im severely sensitive to supplements.

heres what I am eating

Breakfast either cream of brown rice with rice milk and flax oil
or sometimes a smoothie made with protein powder(usually rice protein)blended
with berries and flax oil.

lunch:steamed vegetables,steamed red potatos,olive oil and brown rice tortillas

Dinner: steamed vegetables and chicken (or same as lunch above)

snack:fruits,soft date rolls or papaya slices

I am allergic to eggs,soy,yeast,treenuts,lettuce,and I cant digest any raw vegetables

note: i sometimes have raw macadamia nuts because its the only nut i can tolerate even though its an avoid.

i use red potatos because im not able to tolerate sweet potatos they give me heart burn.

Posted by: Brighid45, Sunday, May 6, 2007, 12:22am; Reply: 21
The following is simply my own opinion, based on my own experiences.

From the list you've given us, it's apparent to me that you're eating way too much rice and starch. If you are grain-and-starch-sensitive (and I think you are, from what you've told us), any grain and some starchy vegetables like potatoes will give you grief and cause at least some of the symptoms you're describing. I understand that you're coming off a grain and legume-based diet and trying to make beneficial changes, but it's best to know what is harming you and what's good for you as well.

To help heal your digestive system, you might try eating a spoonful of ghee in the morning before you have breakfast. Ghee is very easy to make and a wonderful substitute for butter in recipes and cooking. It has a mild nutty flavor that I prefer to butter now. Check the ghee thread in the Cook Right forum for instructions on how to make it. Eating ghee will help heal your stomach and gut.

I would suggest you try having a small cup of broth for breakfast along with whatever you usually eat. It can be vegetable broth with a couple of tablespoons of beef broth in it to start. Gradually work up to more and more beef in the broth, so that eventually you're drinking all-beef broth. You could also try this for lunch. I have an intuitive sense that this more than anything else will help you get used to eating beef and also to the taste.

Macadamias are actually neutral for all Os. It's a good idea to check Typebase to get the latest standings for anything you're eating, as values and standings have changed from the first edition of Eat Right/Cook Right. You could also try to substitute macadamia butter for the rice protein in your smoothie. I do this with walnut or almond butter in my fruit smoothies and it's pretty good! And a better source of protein than the grain.  

You might want to get some fish into your diet too. Start with O neutrals like tuna and salmon. I have salmon salad on a regular basis because I love it and it really makes me feel great. Fish and steamed vegetables are a good lunch or dinner with plenty of protein.

Hang in there. It takes time to change your diet. Slow and steady, one step at a time. :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, May 6, 2007, 1:24am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Tarrenae
Something really scarey happened to me last night,I sat up late,and fell asleep on the couch,I woke up to some tight/sore feelings in my chest area.It was really uncomfortable.I had a glass of water then went to bed.When I went to bed I noticed my heart was racing,and my pulse was rapid,I tried to just lay still hoping it would decrease.About 10-15 mins later,I feel sort of sick to my stomach,and then A terrible feeling of doom came over me and a sensation that my heart was flipping and I was going to faint.Paniced I shot out of bed and walked around the room,I thought perhaps I was going into shock because I was reacting to something I ate.

I am really scared everyone :-(

My two cents...  Relax!

My heart races occassionally, usually wakes me during the night...
My bouts are when I am detoxing heavily.  I can usually get up and stretch, take a few deep breaths, drink a glass of water or two, and it settles down...

The body stores toxins in fat, as you start to lose some of this, you will be removing toxins...

I know you are just getting started, but hopefully, you will be able to eat more compliant broths and meats soon for more beneficial proteins...

Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, May 6, 2007, 4:15am; Reply: 23
I agree with Brig that you are eating way too much grain and starch, and way too little protein.  That way of eating will keep your immune system in a weakened state, thus making it hard for you to heal.

Beef broth would be very good for you, especially if you make it yourself with some fresh marrow bones that you simmer for a few hours with lots of beneficial vegetables.  Push the marrow out into the broth, along with any meat that is on the bones.  Then discard the bones, blend up the broth or just strain everything.

If you are going to eat grains, the best time would be for your evening meal and not for breakfast.  Some kind of meat, fish or meat broth with every meal would be ideal for your blood type.
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, May 6, 2007, 3:09pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Victoria
I agree with Brig that you are eating way too much grain and starch, and way too little protein.
If you are going to eat grains, the best time would be for your evening meal and not for breakfast.  Some kind of meat, fish or meat broth with every meal would be ideal for your blood type.

I agree on the too little meat and too much starch as well. As an O, I don't do well AT ALL on grain.  :'(    Not even spelt or rice.  :'(  :'(      
Meat especially in the mornings to get ya goin' would be great. And as Victoria mentions, grains at evening meal. This would prob help you to sleep better and stick w/ you longer re: blood sugar thru the night. Just be careful not to overdo the grains/carb in the evening tho, because it can throw your blood sugar out of whack and wind up having you awake thru the night. Our bodies are sooooo complex. I had absolutely NO idea to what extent before starting BTD.  The people on this forum have SO MUCH info, it just makes me little head spin sometimes.  ;D  I love to read and learn, and this is absolutely a great place to do both.  :)
Posted by: 971 (Guest), Monday, May 7, 2007, 2:04am; Reply: 25
update: hey everyone ive been to the store,I bought some organic beef "flavored" broth to start with,it just has beef extract,I know its not as good as homemade,not even close,but I have to start somewhere,im going to like brighhid45 suggested,add kale,parsnips,carrots,and other veggies to the broth.
I am going to cut down on my grains,and have them only once per day if at all,I got some organic ghee as well.And i am going to slowly increase my protein.
Posted by: italybound, Monday, May 7, 2007, 2:06am; Reply: 26
Great to hear...........that a' steps and what you can when ya can. Proud of you!!!
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 7, 2007, 3:06am; Reply: 27
can you write down the ingredients in your broth?
Posted by: 971 (Guest), Monday, May 7, 2007, 4:04am; Reply: 28
Quoted from lola
can you write down the ingredients in your broth?

I tried to find the purest one possible,I could'nt find one with just beef broth they all had things mixed into it.It probably has a couple avoids,but Its just a start.

this one is by Healthvalley
no msg,or artificial ingredients

ingredients: filtered water,beef extract,evaporated cane juice,onion powder and natural flavors.

Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 7, 2007, 4:41am; Reply: 29
the natural flavors are usually artificial ingredients but hey no biggie!! lol

as you well say, it s a start!

nothing tastes better than home made broth.
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Monday, May 7, 2007, 6:55am; Reply: 30

Good for you!  You will notice a very positive shift; I'm sure of it.  The most important thing to do is to cut out all mainstream grains but rice, and all dairy.  Try to avoid soy products until you know your secretor status, too.  

Also, try using agave for your sweetener.  That will make a huge difference, too.
Posted by: Brighid45, Monday, May 7, 2007, 10:33am; Reply: 31
Excellent Tarranae! I think the broth you bought is just fine and will be a good transition food for you. Load it up with veggies and enjoy some homemade soup. :)

Small steps work best (in my experience) when you are making a big change in your diet. That way you move slowly and don't get overwhelmed. Also, working gently and steadily gives you a good idea of what you like and what likes you :) And you get to see more clearly how your tastes change--because if there's one thing eating right for your type does, it clears out your palate so you can taste how good high-quality live food is compared to the processed, inert stuff you're used to eating. It's an amazing process and well worth savoring.

Good work ms T! Hang in there. We're here for ya. :)
Posted by: 971 (Guest), Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 4:00am; Reply: 32
I had my broth.........with veggies,my first taste of beef in years,but it didn't taste like beef at all,however i found myself visualizing a plain hamburger pattie.Feelings of guilt have been circulating through me all day,guilt for polluting myself with meat.I try not to think of it in that way,but it comes up.I also felt really hungry after the soup,and my body was screaming for protein.I had some canned salmon but it somehow didn't quite satisfy the urge,later it dawned on me my body was screaming for red meat.My body does not view meat as an animal my body views it as nutrients it desperately needs to repair.However I am worried my liver and digestive organs will not be able to break it down.I have had gas,bloating and a yellowy tinge to my skin,I sometimes get a little yellow with no explaination.Anyway I took the first step to a long road of recovery.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 4:56am; Reply: 33
that is great news!
begin with simple tasty inventions like turkey burgers, and add beef as you progress.
your O ancestry has the ability to digest the protein, just do it, you will feel the difference.
Posted by: Lloyd, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 5:29am; Reply: 34
I'm kinda late to this thread (don't read many anymore) but the thought did occur that it could be GERD related or a hiatial hernia. Something else to check into, didn't read all the other replys to see if I'm duplicating someone else. Looks possible from symptoms and other attendant details.
Posted by: Becky, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 3:06pm; Reply: 35
I am also very late to this post.  One other suggestion that I have found quite helpfull.

Find some type of meditation.  Once in a while, I have that same heart racing panic.  When this happens, I make myself stretch out on the bed, couch, or floor and start by breathing deeply and slowly and focus on just breathing.   When I get my breathing slowed down, I keep repeating to myself relax......relax......relax......

This will at least make it easier to deal with when it happens, and give you a clearer mind to handle the situation.
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 3:29pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Tarrenae
I took the first step to a long road of recovery.

:D  Very pleased for you! :K)
Posted by: Vicki, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 3:37pm; Reply: 37
Posted by: Brighid45, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 6:09pm; Reply: 38
Well done Tarranae!

I would say stay with the beef broth for now. It really will help your body heal. You can always add bits of beef to the broth if you want, or a broken-up cooked hamburger patty. If you're not ready for that yet, it's okay. Stay with the broth and veggies, no worries. :)

When the thoughts of guilt and pollution enter your mind, let them pass. The more you try to stop them or push them away, the more power they gain over you. Let them come up, and pass away. Imagine your body full of health and energy from the good fresh meat and veggies you're eating. Bring in positive thoughts and images to replace the old ideas of shame and guilt. It can be difficult at first, but if you take one step at a time and work on things, I think you'll see a difference.

Good work! You're taking the first steps to health and balance. :)
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 6:24pm; Reply: 39
Good for you, T.,
We're really pulling for you, and just know that you are not alone.  Many of us were total vegetarians for a long time until we realized that we were slowly killing ourselves.  After 20 years of not eating meat, my health is steadily improving on daily red meat, usually lamb, and cold water fish.  

Just know that to keep moving in the right direction is enough.  Speed is not important.
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