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Posted by: 348 (Guest), Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 12:55pm
Hi all! New here so not sure this is the right forum for my question:
I'm having lots of inflammation and trying to figure out which of the foods  is the culprit. Have not yet tested for secretor status as I'm in NY and it's not available here.  Could it be the sheep's cheese I'm eating? Or the gluten-free oat bread I eat almost daily? Also, is it ok to use dry yeast in my baking? How about xanthan gum? a bit of sugar?
If this is not the right forum let me know and I'll post where appropriate.
Thanks all, and I look forward to sharing here!
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 5:17pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from diffy
Hi all! New here so not sure this is the right forum for my question:
I'm having lots of inflammation and trying to figure out which of the foods  is the culprit. Have not yet tested for secretor status as I'm in NY and it's not available here.  Could it be the sheep's cheese I'm eating? Or the gluten-free oat bread I eat almost daily? Also, is it ok to use dry yeast in my baking? How about xanthan gum? a bit of sugar?
If this is not the right forum let me know and I'll post where appropriate.
Thanks all, and I look forward to sharing here!


Virtally all gums are avoids for all blood types.  Oat bread is not an ideal grain for Type O's.  I've never seen an oat bread that didn't contain some wheat.  Ezekiel 4:9 or manna bread are better choices if you are a secretor.

What type of cheese is it from sheep?  Cheese in general, is not an ideal food choice.  Once in a blue moon, okay, but how often are you eating it?  You need to pay attention to the portion sizes and frequency values of dairy products.

You need green leafy veggies for a Type O, not dairy.  

Just out of curiosity, have you taken the Candida Spit Test?

And, have you taken the fingerprint test to determine your level of gut integrity?

Posted by: 348 (Guest), Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 5:51pm; Reply: 2
Have done the Enterolab for candidiasis, it's negative. Haven't done fingerprint test. What do I gain out of it? Is it expensive?
Posted by: 348 (Guest), Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 5:54pm; Reply: 3
If oat is a no-no what's my kid supposed to have for breakfast, lunch? She's a growing kid, 12 years old, she needs food....  She is on the gluten free diet, and at least the gf bread is filling. Now she will give that up, what's she gonna have instead? I'm worried she won't get full....  Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated as I'm new to this and feeling totally foodless....
Posted by: mikeo, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 6:06pm; Reply: 4
would suggest you get a PO box in a neighboring state like Connecticut.... or some other close by (jersey) and have the secretor test mailed there...you can take the test on the spot.....just don't take any vitamin supplements 48 hours before and don't eat either at least 6 hours before you collect the spit

any night shade vegetables like peppers or tomatoes can cause inflammation

if not then i would suggest a daily dose of exercise and stock up on omega 3 sources like walnuts and beneficial fish like salmon(wild not farmed) and sardines (yes sardines) which is also a good source of calcium....had inflammation in my joints and as soon as I took a calcium supplement...it started to dissipate...O's need calcium and sheep cheese as much as I like it...I can only eat sparingly so you need a calcium supplement especially if you are post menapausal...Clearcal on the NAP site is very good

also try Boswellia and Bromelain as supplements for inflammation
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 6:12pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from diffy
Have done the Enterolab for candidiasis, it's negative. Haven't done fingerprint test. What do I gain out of it? Is it expensive?


Spit in a glass first thing in the morning before doing anything else for candida test.  That's free.

I linked to the instructions that Dr. D gave.  All you need is an ink pad and good quality white paper to take the fingerprint test.

Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 6:16pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from diffy
If oat is a no-no what's my kid supposed to have for breakfast, lunch? She's a growing kid, 12 years old, she needs food....  She is on the gluten free diet, and at least the gf bread is filling. Now she will give that up, what's she gonna have instead? I'm worried she won't get full....  Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated as I'm new to this and feeling totally foodless....


Like Dr. D wrote in ER and LR, grains are not the ideal food for Type O's.  He recommends that you give them up completely.  Think outside the box.  I have beef and broccoli or buffalo and broccoli for breakfast.  Having cereal for breakfast was a marketing campagain of Kellog; it's cheap, it's easy and when you are a Type O, you can easily get addicted to it.  If your child needs to feel "fuller" add a baked sweet potatoe, or another beneficial vegetable.

Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 6:33pm; Reply: 7
Even eggs are a better breakfast for your child, instead of cereal.  For those who want to continue to eat a little grains, it's better to have a small amount in the evening.  Breakfast is the time to eat a meal that is strong in protein and low in carb.  That's especially grain-type carbs.  For a child, maybe a smoothie made of beneficial fruits and a couple of eggs.  Perhaps some nuts/seeds.

Oats can be problematic for lots of people.  For me, it crashes my blood sugar level, making me jittery and feeling hungry very quickly.

What is her bloodtype?
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 8:23pm; Reply: 8
You (and your child) can fill up on any number of vegetables and protein sources.  If you manage to stay clear of grains for a couple of days you will find that there is feeling full and feeling full.  

The first is the bloated, stuffed feeling you get if you eat a lot of grains, the kind that sends you straight to sleep in the afternoon - the second is the feeling you get when you fill up on veg and beneficial protein, your hunger is satisfied and you feel energised and nourished as opposed to stuffed!  Try it and you will be amazed at the difference.

As for breakfast I grind some linseeds and pumpkin seeds, add some nuts and fruit...it is lovely and keeps me going for hours... ;)


Posted by: 348 (Guest), Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:30pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from KimonoKat


Spit in a glass first thing in the morning before doing anything else for candida test.  That's free.

I linked to the instructions that Dr. D gave.  All you need is an ink pad and good quality white paper to take the fingerprint test.



Are you being funny or what? Or am I ignorant here? Guess I'll have to read up on the fingerprint test and spit test...you did make me laugh though....still not sure you were serious or not...
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:42pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from diffy


Are you being funny or what? Or am I ignorant here? Guess I'll have to read up on the fingerprint test and spit test...you did make me laugh though....still not sure you were serious or not...


In my post, the bolded red text are actual links to 1. how to do the candida spit test
2. how to do the fingerprint test.

Hope that helps.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:44pm; Reply: 11
Here are the links for you again.  If you put your cursor over the bolded red text, you will see that they are internet links to other pages.


Just out of curiosity, have you taken the Candida Spit Test?

And, have you taken the fingerprint test to determine your level of gut integrity?

Posted by: Brighid45, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:55pm; Reply: 12
Hi diffy, nice to meet you :)

KK is serious. One of the best ways to test for candida is to spit into a glass of water. If your spit tendrils down into the water, you have candida. If it sits on top, you don't. This is a fairly accurate test.

The fingerprint test is also serious business. Read the instructions at the link and give it a try. It's a good indicator for gut problems, as mentioned. The more wrinkles and the fainter your ridges, the bigger the problem. When I began the BTD you could barely see my prints--they were very faint and almost completely obscured by wrinkles. Now they are much stronger and there are only a couple of wrinkles left!

Ezekiel bread is a good trade-in for oat bread. It takes a little getting used to, but it's tasty and filling. I prefer it to any other bread, when I eat bread--pretty seldom these days! :) You can get ezekiel bread in cinnamon-raisin too, which is a nice transition bread for breakfast.

Breakfasts for Os can be simple and tasty, as in eggs and turkey or lamb sausage, leftover pot roast and veggies, smoothies, etc. I used to be a big-time cereal or oatmeal breakfast fanatic. As of this post, I haven't had cereal for breakfast since October 2004. I love my protein-power breakfasts! I'm no longer bloated or sleepy in the mornings and have lots of lovely sustained energy to get me through to lunchtime.

When you first start the BTD, it can feel like you're leaving more food behind than you're adding in, but it's just your tastes being shifted to a better way of eating for your type. Eventually you'll look back at the way you used to eat and wonder why you ever ate all that junk. :)

Welcome to the board! I look forward to your posts. :)
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 9:55pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from koahiatamadl
You (and your child) can fill up on any number of vegetables and protein sources.  If you manage to stay clear of grains for a couple of days you will find that there is feeling full and feeling full.  



Bolding emphasis mine.  So true.  It often times, needs to be experienced to fully "grok" it.


Posted by: Melissa_J, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:06pm; Reply: 14
Just tossing in a cent or two... oat bread and ezekiel bread are not gluten free, for those who need gluten free.  If the oats were certified gluten-free oats then it would be, otherwise, all oats contain wheat by contamination in the fields and the mill.  

I just bought my type A celiac son some of the gluten free oats.  I don't think they'll agree with me, as an O-non, but they should work for him if he likes them.

For an O who likes a grainy breakfast, long-cooked brown rice is very filling, just add a little extra water for a softer consitency.  You can eat it just like oatmeal.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:17pm; Reply: 15
use lettuce leaves or nori sheets for wraps.......fill those with your left over dinner, for breakfast!
fast and easy and good!
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:18pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from koahiatamadl
If you manage to stay clear of grains for a couple of days you will find that there is feeling full and feeling full.  


I would explain the bolded phrase above as "feeling full and feeling satisfied" to those not familiar.  The thought is the same I'm sure, since I've felt the difference many times...

Feeling full after eating Avoids or even Neutrals can be less than satisfying, while feeling full after Beneficials is really satisfying...
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:24pm; Reply: 17
great way to put it!
Posted by: 348 (Guest), Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:01am; Reply: 18
Brighid, thanks for your hearty welcome! And KimomoKat,  thanks for clarifying that those red letters are actual links. Gonna try them!
Thanks all for your wonderful encouragement!
Posted by: KimonoKat, Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:28am; Reply: 19
Quoted from diffy
Brighid, thanks for your hearty welcome! And KimomoKat,  thanks for clarifying that those red letters are actual links. Gonna try them!
Thanks all for your wonderful encouragement!


You're welcome diffy!  Just keep asking questions.  We are all here to help each other succeed on this new way of looking at food, exercise and stress management.
Posted by: sluggerbean, Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 2:02am; Reply: 20
Quoted from diffy
Kids are so damn excited about this diet!


I think it is wonderful that your kids are participating with you in changing the lifestyle!

I usually have a small steak and a handful of blueberries for breakfast washed down with low-sodium V-8 and either grapefruit or pineapple juice.  I am energetic and alert all morning.  It is really easy to prepare the steaks on Sunday afternoon and refrigerate them for use throughout the week.  

You can pack really great lunches with salad and canned salmon, tuna, or chicken.  I know that school lunches are usually wheat, corn, and potato heavy.

Keep asking for help.  I have received so much support here.

Welcome! ;D
Posted by: 348 (Guest), Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 2:13am; Reply: 21
Thank you sluggerbean...I'll be asking lots I hope you don't regret the offer....
Kids are already on gluten free and casein free diet for over a year. The major changes now iclude as you said eliminating potatos (that's a big one!), mayo, and corn. We used to live on the pre-packaged tuna salads but will have to ditch that cuz of the mayo:(
Yes, school lunches are gonna need to take a back seat; and my kids are totally not keen on bringing food from home....never agreed to do that...
Posted by: sluggerbean, Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 2:28am; Reply: 22
Quoted from diffy
Kids are already on gluten free and casein free diet for over a year.


If you don't mind me asking, are your children on the autism spectrum by any chance?  My son is and that is where I am most familiar with gf/cf diet.
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