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Posted by: 168 (Guest), Friday, March 16, 2007, 5:30pm
Hi,
My 72 year old mum has today been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.  Her major complaints are numbness of the lower limbs, no strength in anklebone and the knee joints.  Lack of stability when walking, frequent urination, fatigue, pains in her coccyx down her thighs and legs.  She is O type but even though I am also an O, there are food I can eat but she can't tolerate.  Also orthodox medication have never been good for her as she her body reacts to even a mild pain killer but herbal supplements work well for her.

What should she take to ameliorate the problem?  Oh she's also slightly overweight.  We live in Nigeria but I can order supplements if I know the ones which will work for her.

Arit
Posted by: KimonoKat, Friday, March 16, 2007, 5:50pm; Reply: 1
What is your Mom's secretor status?  Has she been tested?  If she hasn't been tested, imho, this is key to helping her successfully.

What are the foods that she doesn't seem to be able to eat?

Can you give us an outline of some of her typical meals?

Posted by: Lola, Friday, March 16, 2007, 6:22pm; Reply: 2
a lectin free diet will help her heal, eventually.
talk to her about the importance of btd for her issues.

take a look at the health library series to prioritize her food choices.

the book on arthritis might be a good start.

also the online protocols.......as well as the determinator
http://www.dadamo.com/ingrediator/determinator.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/ingrediator/ingrediator.pl?product=NP007&product=BT002O
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Saturday, March 17, 2007, 2:58pm; Reply: 3
Thanks Kimonokat and Lola.  Here are a list of the foods my mum has aversion for : 1.  Bread (Wheat or white), eggs, melon seeds which we use to prepare our indigenous dish, palm nut, sugar, honey, anything sweet, cocoyam, beans (black eye & kidney), peanuts, pineapple, ripe plantain(has no problem with unripe plantain), Yam that is pounded, but eats boiled yam.

No she hasn't been tested so I don't know her secretor status.

Typical meals?  I wish I knew.  I say this because she hardly eats breakfast but when I have some fruit salad(which consists of watermelon, pineapple, oranges, pawpaw), she takes that in small quantity.  For lunch, she takes our locally made ground/fried cassava with Okro soup or any vegetable soup and for dinner she takes rice with vegetables or boiled yam with vegees or unripe plantain cooked together with a local vegetable and fish.  For fish, if its fresh, she likes it fried even if it's mackerel but she prefers any scally fish.  The fish can also be roasted over coal.  Many times she misses lunch and takes only dinner.  I've often told her she has wrong eating habits and she says many times she doesn't feel hungry.  She likes vegetable salad with salad dressing NOT cream and for snacks she nibbles on carrots which she loves.

I hope this will help.  I'll check out the determinator and ingredia sites.  

Thanks once again.

Arit
Posted by: KimonoKat, Saturday, March 17, 2007, 3:32pm; Reply: 4
Is she willing to do a secretor test?  Again, this is key with this particular health issue.

Even if she's not willing to eat meats (beef, buffalo, lamb), if she can concentrate on the beneficial fishes for her type she will be a lot better off.

As far as not eating breakfast....does she eat late in the evening?  This could be why she's not hungry in the morning.

The plantains are an avoid I believe for Type O's.  Regular bananas are okay.  No oranges in the fruit salad; avoid.  Try to include blueberries, cherries, elderberries.
Posted by: 1502 (Guest), Saturday, March 17, 2007, 3:51pm; Reply: 5
Hi arit, sorry to hear about your mum. My dad has ms also, he was diagnosed about 10 yrs ago and he is 53 now. He was in the hospital for 1 month, they didnt know what was wrong with him. Anyway my mother has him eating better, plus he has been taking vitamins, minerals and a grapeseed anioxidant. he has been good on this, but on really HOT days he feel exausted from the ms. About 2 weeks ago he has been really tired, headaches, and dizzy. so he went to the hospital for 3-4 days and they gave him, i think some kind of steroid drip in his arm. Hopefull he will get better. arit keep us posted on your mum. My dad is also o type but he dosnt know his sec. My opinion, ms is from horrible diet(which he had growing up) , and  metals in the body.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, March 17, 2007, 5:12pm; Reply: 6
Daniel,
can you get your dad to eat right?

53 yo is young!!!
Posted by: LuHu, Saturday, March 17, 2007, 5:41pm; Reply: 7
Hi Arit and welcome. :)

I'm happy you found this forum as a resource. I hope your mom will give many of these suggestions a try. I found that I have much relief from many of my symptoms by avoiding the items on my "worst" list for Bs from the LR4YT book. The level of difference with just that degree of compliance is amazing to me, though with the potential for continuing debilitating damage I would certainly advise anyone to be as compliant as possible.

I have to agree, also, that your mom will benefit most by knowing her secretor status. I have a wonderful blood type that does well with a wide variety of foods, but then I tested to be a non-secretor and that changed things significantly. :'( Nevertheless, all the great folks here would encourage you by re-stating "KNOWLEDGE is POWER," to which I would add, knowledge when utilized properly is power.  

I was just chastised by the judge at my disability hearing for choosing to follow a holistic approach exclusively to deal with my MS when I was first diagnosed. Can't even begin to tell you how much that made/makes my blood boil. The arrogance and IGNORANCE of ANYONE who presumes that they have a right to mandate or JUDGE the decisions an individual makes regarding their own life/body is almost incomprehensible to me. I now have to wait perhaps 6 months to see just how arrogant the judge really is as he really does have the authority to use his ignorance and personal bias to deny my ss disability claim. I'm trying very hard to leave those thoughts out of my head, though.

Most of us on the BTD forum do understand that, unfortunately, in the West, most of the population has been duped to believe that you take a pill and abandon all responsibility for the fundamental care of your health/body, like basic nourishment.
OK, gotta  get off this subject line now---it isn't good for one's blood to boil.  ::)

Anyway, your mom is the only one who can live her life with whatever decisions she makes about how she will manage her health. However,  I can offer you this from personal experience. I have had much success with reducing/eliminating symptoms by incorporating the BTD in my overall wellness regime and it didn't take a long time to see the benefit. I can reproduce my symptoms by ignoring the food suggestions as well. Of course I am not free of the effects of the disease, I'm just letting you know that what I eat can affect a measure of the well-being I experience on even a day-to-day basis and I would say absolutely on a long-term one.

My thoughts are with you and your mom and I sincerely hope you will find and implement everything, including the BTD, that is beneficial for you.

My very best wishes to you.
:K)
Posted by: LuHu, Saturday, March 17, 2007, 5:42pm; Reply: 8
Dear ctconservative,

Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear of your dad's illness as well. It appears that a multitude of factors have to 'converge' for MS to manifest. Hope some things you will read here will help you support him as well.

My best to you and to him.  :)
Posted by: 1502 (Guest), Saturday, March 17, 2007, 10:50pm; Reply: 9
Ty Luhu for your kind words.. Luhu do u have ms? I actually know 3 people that have ms my dad, a friend, that its hard for him to walk, and cant drive at all, and a lady that can only move from her neck up its very sad. she cant talk either.  its pretty scary those 2 people are younger than my dad :(   and lola my mom has him eating alot better.
Posted by: LuHu, Sunday, March 18, 2007, 2:08am; Reply: 10
Hi ctc,

Yes, I do. I am ambulatory with a few 'issues.' ;) Yes, it can be a really, really crummy diagnosis and you're right, it is darned scary. My mother had primary progressive and my sister has what looks to be RRMS as do I. Have you read/learned about the different types and their 'typical' prognoses?
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Monday, March 19, 2007, 11:14am; Reply: 11
Thanks everyone for your good advice.  She's willing to do anything to make her fit again.  I'll therefore arrange for her to take the secretor test and while waiting for that, I'm putting her on a strict BTD diet.

A friend of mine recommended three Tianjin Tasly Pharmaceutical products from china which are 1. Danshen tea(composition - Radix Salviae, Miltiorrhizae, Radix Astragall, Radix Notoginseng, Green tea) which is a detox; (2) Red Yeast tabs (contains red yeast rice and corn starch) and Omega -3 fatty acids (contains DHA, DPA, EPA).  She's  taking these and says she no longer feels the pins and needles in her fingers and she can now chew with the right side of her mouth.  Her main problem is from her waist down where the numbness pains, weakness etc is concentrated.  She walks with difficulty.

Over the weekend I searched the net for a solution and found two sites which wrote extensively about MS and proferred solutions.  I received a reply this morning to my enquiry and one of them organichope@organichope.com recommends a product called KALAWALLA.  Has anyone heard of this product and perhaps tried it out? The mail I received says and I quote "Kalawalla works by regulating the immune system.  It regulates the CD4/CD8 levels back to their normal values.  It thus prevents the overacting of the immune system (T cells), preventing the attack of myelin in the central nervous system (CNS).  Once the immune system has been completely regulted, your CNS will begin to regenerate myelin on its own.  By indirectly restoring the myelin back to normal, Kalawalla can reduce, or even eliminate most MS symptoms".  The other site tcmtreatment@tcmtreatment.net has sent me a patient form to fill and return so their "experts can give a correct diagnosis and recommend the best treatment strategy".  With these informations, I'll be able to decide what is treatment is best for my mum.  I know however that the BTD will go a long way in regulating her system.

Arit
Posted by: italybound, Monday, March 19, 2007, 11:56am; Reply: 12
I think LuHu has some info to share, but I'll let her do that. :-)
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, March 19, 2007, 1:03pm; Reply: 13
oooo yesss.. I am soo curieuse to hear something from her (dance)(clap)(smarty)(sunny) :K) ;D
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Monday, March 19, 2007, 2:44pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from pkarmeier
I think LuHu has some new info to share, but I'll let her do that. :-)


C'mon LuHu, I'm waiting, waiting, waiting for the info you have  ::) ::) ;D(book2)
Posted by: Schluggell, Monday, March 19, 2007, 4:26pm; Reply: 15
Kalawalla, Calaguala, Anapsos, Rapuani
{supposedly Polypodium leucotomos, also P. aureum - Polypodiaceae}

A northern relative of 'Samambaia', indigenous to Guatemala/Honduras - A cousin to the Licorice Fern.
This "Kalawalla" does seem to have some good reports for nervine ailments. Though never tried it, the Licorice Fern does have its own 'magyckal action' in the body so wouldn't be surprised. Just guessing that it is the "Root" that is consumed not the spores for this effect. These ferns in particular readily hybridize so I believe therein lies the confusion as to its Botanical Name. Ferns are a much underrated and underused substance in the West.
Other Polypodium sp. are known to contain Thiaminase and some, so are not advised for long-term congestion due to robbing body of Vitamin B.
A "leaf extract" has been used in Europe for Sunburns {but here I am guessing that its the spores that are important}.
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Monday, March 19, 2007, 6:31pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Schluggell
Kalawalla, Calaguala, Anapsos, Rapuani
{supposedly Polypodium leucotomos, also P. aureum - Polypodiaceae}

A northern relative of 'Samambaia', indigenous to Guatemala/Honduras - A cousin to the Licorice Fern.
This "Kalawalla" does seem to have some good reports for nervine ailments. Though never tried it, the Licorice Fern does have its own 'magyckal action' in the body so wouldn't be surprised. Just guessing that it is the "Root" that is consumed not the spores for this effect. These ferns in particular readily hybridize so I believe therein lies the confusion as to its Botanical Name. Ferns are a much underrated and underused substance in the West.
Other Polypodium sp. are known to contain Thiaminase and some, so are not advised for long-term congestion due to robbing body of Vitamin B.
A "leaf extract" has been used in Europe for Sunburns {but here I am guessing that its the spores that are important}.



Thanks Schluggell for the information.  It's very important to know the Polypodium sp. robs the body of Vitamin B.  If I have my mum try it, I'll have to add a natural source of B vitamins.(sunny)

Arit
Posted by: LuHu, Monday, March 19, 2007, 10:13pm; Reply: 17
Hi Everyone,

Not enough time to say much right now, but what I mentioned to Italy was how true the correlation between low vitamin D3 levels and immune system problems was for me. (Isa, you sent me info on this also! :K)) It's been in the news, but it isn't publicized enough imo. I had to request the test myself, even when seeing an MS specialist. My levels were quite low and I have supplemented since w/a lot of Vit D3. (Pure Encapsulations 5,000 IU capsules). When you do that it is advised that you monitor your levels regularly to avoid overdosing.

I first read about this in an article about MS and Vitamin D3 deficiency. Also gives important advice about which test to ask your lab for. http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/25/vitamin_d.htm

Arit, the lack of naturally produced Vitamin D3 in the southern hemisphere is rare, so I don't know if this info in particular would be as beneficial in your mom's case. Has she ever lived in the northern hemisphere? It is really hard to know what to do when the cause of an illness is not really known. ::) I feel like I grasp at help from a million different sources, too. I have read about Kalawalla also. I would like to know what experiences you have with it. According to their info, one could see 'results' w/in six months. I wonder what their 'results' means.  ??) They did have a generous money back guarantee when I last checked out the info.

Ctc, Arit, does your dad/mom, respectively have any amalgam fillings?  That is one 'risk' factor that I have aplenty. :'(

OK. Gotta run, but I will look for more on this topic, later, of course!  :)

:K)
Posted by: LuHu, Monday, March 19, 2007, 10:21pm; Reply: 18
Hi Schluggel,

Kalawalla site says they use the extract and the rhizome.

http://www.aragonproducts.com/theproducts.cfm?master=6918

Schluggel, I've got a question totally that doesn't belong in this thread, but since I've got your ear (eye)  . . . What chemical component of squash (in my case, mostly yellow summer squash) could be responsible for making my hands peel. Really, REALLY, peel? It is MORE pronounced when I must cut away a lot of the outer skin due to bruising or gashes and I hold onto the squash without its peeling.

thanks! ;D
Posted by: italybound, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 1:43am; Reply: 19
Quoted from LuHu
What chemical component of squash (in my case, mostly yellow summer squash) could be responsible for making my hands peel. Really, REALLY, peel? It is MORE pronounced when I must cut away a lot of the outer skin due to bruising or gashes and I hold onto the squash without its peeling.


can I take a guess here.......... ;D.............pesticide? :-/

Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 1:57am; Reply: 20
Arit,
she should avoid the corn starch in the RYR sup.
Posted by: 1502 (Guest), Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 2:03am; Reply: 21
yes luhu my dad has a few fillings. i new that mercury can be a big problem on our bodies. i wonder if we all did a once or twice a year detox if it would help with the mercury leeching into our systems??
Posted by: Don, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 3:02am; Reply: 22
Quoted from ctconservative
i wonder if we all did a once or twice a year detox if it would help with the mercury leeching into our systems??

No, you are underestimating the impact mercury has and how hard it is to remove from the body.

Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 8:49am; Reply: 23
dearest LUHU :K)
how did the *neurorecovery* aminoacids worked for you from Solgar??)
That was one of my very first recommends in your concernes ;) :D
Posted by: Schluggell, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 9:14am; Reply: 24
Quoted from LuHu
...What chemical component of squash (in my case, mostly yellow summer squash) could be responsible for making my hands peel...


A casual Googling reveals that this is actually pretty common.
Though I have yet to meet anyone even casually allergic to any Cucurbitaceae sp.
Unfortunatelt the documents I've seen so far are on medical websites that I amnot a member, thus can't access the full article.

Summing up: Mentioned in the headings is a reaction to 'Pumpkin Seed' - HOWEVER the article summaries only seem to mention the reaction due to the Squash Pulp as you mention.

Also of interest is that this is related to a cross-reactivity to many other fruits. Cucurbitaceae sp. Cross-Pollinate {Self-Hybridize} readily, and the majority of commercial food crops and Nursey trade plants are hybrids which produce sterile pollens and thus increase the potential for allergic reactions.


As to MS I've had several members of the family come down with this and in the long-term it is not pretty. Curiously both were in Naval Submarines for years...And they loved Peanut Butter.
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 11:17am; Reply: 25
Quoted from LuHu
Hi Everyone,

Not enough time to say much right now, but what I mentioned to Italy was how true the correlation between low vitamin D3 levels and immune system problems was for me. (Isa, you sent me info on this also! :K)) It's been in the news, but it isn't publicized enough imo. I had to request the test myself, even when seeing an MS specialist. My levels were quite low and I have supplemented since w/a lot of Vit D3. (Pure Encapsulations 5,000 IU capsules). When you do that it is advised that you monitor your levels regularly to avoid overdosing.

I first read about this in an article about MS and Vitamin D3 deficiency. Also gives important advice about which test to ask your lab for. http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/25/vitamin_d.htm

Arit, the lack of naturally produced Vitamin D3 in the southern hemisphere is rare, so I don't know if this info in particular would be as beneficial in your mom's case. Has she ever lived in the northern hemisphere?

Yes, she lived in Scotland for four years but I doubt if that would have any adverse effect on her because I lived in England for 7yrs and in Pennsylvania for 5yrs and I don't have any "earth shaking" health problem.  I rather think that since her body rejects orthodox treatment and she took them for any minor problem especially stomach cramps as she knew no other alternative then, her immune system just went out of whack and started attacking the healthy cells.

It is really hard to know what to do when the cause of an illness is not really known. ::) I feel like I grasp at help from a million different sources, too. I have read about Kalawalla also. I would like to know what experiences you have with it.

I haven't any experience yet because I read about this last weekend for the first time and yesterday printed out the clinical trials of the plant for my dad who is a pharmacist to read.  He seems to have confidence in it because from experience he says ferns are very efficacious for various ailments but he just didn't realize a particular specie could be good for MS.  I'll place an order today and put my mum on it as soon as it arrives so let's say sometime next month I'll know how well it's worked for her condition.

According to their info, one could see 'results' w/in six months. I wonder what their 'results' means.  ??) They did have a generous money back guarantee when I last checked out the info.

Their 'results' probably mean some of the symptoms would reduce significantly.  Oh well, if it works for my mum you bet I'll post it on this forum.  Even if it doesn't  work I'll let everyone know.

Ctc, Arit, does your dad/mom, respectively have any amalgam fillings?  That is one 'risk' factor that I have aplenty. :'(

Oh no thank goodness for that.  If she did, I doubt if she'll be alive today because the disease would've dealt her a heavy blow long before now.

OK. Gotta run, but I will look for more on this topic, later, of course!  :)

Thanks LuHu.  I really appreciate your taking the time to put this information across.
:K)


(dance)
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 11:26am; Reply: 26
Quoted from lola
Arit,
she should avoid the corn starch in the RYR sup.


OK thanks Lola.  She has just 2 tablets left so I'll discontinue it and continue with Omega 3 supplement but when I receive Kalawalla, she'll no longer take Omega because I want to be sure of Kalawalla's efficacy or non-efficacy.  The only supplement I'll add will be some B vitamins to replenish the ones Kalawalla will rob her of.
Posted by: resting, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 2:12pm; Reply: 27
Hi Arit,

Perhaps your Mom may benefit from higher doses of vitamin B3 (niacin).  It was used by Sanchez back in the 1950's and was the first treatment for ms.  It dilates capillaries that's why many people get a niacin flush.

She might also benefit from a good hair-analysis, to see if there is a heavy metal toxicity issue.  Also see if there is a possibility of pesticide residue,

She might benefit from a newer product: liposomal glutathione.  If she adds @200mcg of selenium she will give her liver some clout to overcome toxicity.

Aside from this, some lecithin may assist .... I am very dubious of the use of omega-3's because there is no environmental trigger towards very cold temperatures ... a must!

more stuff later!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: resting, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 6:40pm; Reply: 28
a most helpful start is 'By Appointment Only - multiple sclerosis' by Jan de Vries.  His use of Leritone (now called Lecitone) instead of standard omega-3 supplementation is found at http://www.ponroy.ch (if you require the English version, click the small Canadian flag).

if vein fragility is a problem .... then there are several very helpful things to strengthen arterial/vein walls: horse chestnut extract; OPC's; vitamin C; quercetin; pycnogenol .... hundreds more

his use of zinc for depressed people with ms is unusual .... but very good.  It may be best to use the zinc with copper (zinc:copper is 10:1) + a small amt of taurine especially if she does not eat meat.

finally (because of her age) .... a regime of L-carnitine/acetyl-L-carnitine http://www.geronova.com/carnitine-plus.htm + CoQ10 http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00950.html + StemEnhance http://www.organics4u.stemtechhealth.com/ should help.  

good luck

John
Posted by: 168 (Guest), Thursday, March 22, 2007, 2:12pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
Hi Arit,

Perhaps your Mom may benefit from higher doses of vitamin B3 (niacin).  It was used by Sanchez back in the 1950's and was the first treatment for ms.  It dilates capillaries that's why many people get a niacin flush.

She might also benefit from a good hair-analysis, to see if there is a heavy metal toxicity issue.  Also see if there is a possibility of pesticide residue,

She might benefit from a newer product: liposomal glutathione.  If she adds @200mcg of selenium she will give her liver some clout to overcome toxicity.

Aside from this, some lecithin may assist .... I am very dubious of the use of omega-3's because there is no environmental trigger towards very cold temperatures ... a must!

more stuff later!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Hi resting, thanks so much for your info. I never thought of vitamin B3 only B6 and B12 which she's been taking for sometime now without any obvious result.  Perhaps B3 will do  the trick.  I've also been told her liver and kidney need attention and they're going to get it.  She's really perky now that solutions are coming up as she's determined to attend my son's (her first grandchild) wedding in June ;D.  Thanks a lot for the links which I'll check out in a minute.
(sunny)(sunny)
Posted by: LuHu, Monday, March 26, 2007, 5:16am; Reply: 30
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
dearest LUHU :K)
how did the *neurorecovery* aminoacids worked for you from Solgar??)
That was one of my very first recommends in your concernes ;) :D


Dearest Isa,

My sincere apologies for the delay in my reply. My answer is too long and my mind rebels against solutions that involve sequential, ordered thinking requiring more than the two-step process of getting from A to B. A to D or above is problematic for me, unlike for John, (a.k.a. resting) in whose stellar ability in this arena I am constantly in awe!  (Beautifully demonstrated, I might ad, in the proposal/prototype he wrote/designed for the cellular exercise device for the disabled). I have been thinking of you guys and wanting to reply to the questions all the while and feeling so guilty that I had not summoned the fortitude to do so up to this point. :o I will try to get my answer typed and posted before the ramblings of my mind ultimately overwhelm and paralyze me into more delay. ::)

Isa, what happened with the amino acids trial has created a very big question for me that I have not 'solved' yet and likely never will. ONE reason for this is that the very nature of MS is its variability, unpredictability and sporadic progression. Add to that the severe and irreversible damage that you cannot undo once it is done and you can understand why I am uncomfortable (and therefore UNWILLING) to stop (intentionally as opposed to by necessity b/c there is no $$ for them) protocols and supplements that I feel give benefit in order to test which ones are actually efficacious. What a rotten Catch-22. ::) Anyway . . .

I did begin taking the free form amino acids. I did not notice significant changes but I recognize that part of their function was to help heal the intestinal lining that could be part of the leaky gut connection with autoimmune issues. That would not be something that I would necessarily feel happening. I continued until I was out of the AAs which was about 3 months. Around the same time (and as a complete shock to me) I received 2 bottles of Deflect B from a generous benefactor. Wow! Happy, happy, happy! :D Of course I began taking the Deflect immediately and continuously until they were all gone. I had been taking Wild Alaskan Salmon Oil for a long time but was working to gradually ramp up my dose to get to my goal of 10g/day. I reached this level during this period as well along with 30,000 IU of Vitamin D3 per day. I also added Black Currant Seed Oil to balance this EFA blend.  And, if the water isn't cloudy enough, yet, in addition to all the previously mentioned supps, I had also begun drinking an immune-building/modulating whey protein drink every day.

Separately, ALL of these supplements have some capacity to decrease inflammation. I always take my chlorella, so while that was also in the 'mix', it is pretty much a constant in my daily routine so we can probably remove it from the  'which- supplement-brought-my-sed-rate-down?'  equation. When the $$ don't stretch far enough, this is the one supp that I try my best to always have. I can go from tired but somewhat able to function to completely w/o the will and energy to just  get up if I am out of chlorella for more than a week! ::)

Here is the v-e-r-y interesting thing that happened during the months I had all these supplements available to me: My usually elevated ESR (i.e., sed rate: very general indicator of how much inflammation is occurring in your body) went from a 25 which is rather good for me to a 4! Woohoo and Yippeeee!!!

To complicate things even more, I had recently begun the hideous pharmaceutical intervention (Copaxone injections) out of terror at what my latest MRI showed. I called their hotline and asked if their drug was known to reduce one's sed rate and was told, "No, that is not a result we would expect as a result of injecting Copaxone." So, we can take THAT variable out of the equation. (So now we only have twenty variables left to eliminate.)::)

The mystery continues in that after running out of almost all the supplements I listed above (except my staple chlorella and Vitamin D3) my sed rate reading 3 months afterwards, was again, back up to 25. :'( Big, hair pulling out, screaming, WILD woman here, now, because I have no way to reasonably tell which (if only one) supplement was responsible or if all of them produced a synergy that was responsible for my short-lived, but wildly improved lab reult. Problem is, of course, I can't buy all the supps to use together at one time. The cost is prohibitive. So . . .

I suppose the 'experiment' could be re-created now that I am out of most of the supplements I had during that wonderful 3 month period, whenever I get the opp'y to buy them again, one at a time. So, dear Isa, to answer your question, I just don't know how to evaluate with any measure of accuracy how helpful the amino acids were. I can say that during that period I felt especially well, lost a bit of fat, and was able to do more exercise than is usual for me. As a scientific experiment, however, it was a bust!  :'(

Arit, I am very, very happy to see that you WILL be able to let us know how the Kalawalla performs in your mom's case since you have a much 'purer' setup for drawing conclusions about a specific supplement. Do you know how they have classified your mom's MS---as relapsing-remitting, primary-progressive or something in-between?  I wish I could be more helpful by narrowing down what may be most helpful, but as you can see clearly, I have NO idea! I can absolutely relate to what your mom experiences with the tingling, and numbness. That has been  with me almost constantly for the past 3 years, sometimes more pronounced than at others but I have positively noticed that when I strictly avoid my 'worst' avoids (including chicken, peanuts, corn and sesame for me, which btw, Schluggel, were constantly in my diet, as well, before I learned about the BTD. In fact, as a child I was the most picky eater and practically lived off of corn and peanut butter!) When I eliminate these foods, I am considerably less symptomatic esp w/the vertigo, tingly-ness and the proprioception issues.

I cannot express to you and ctc how much I am hoping you will find ways to aid your parents to minimize the impact of this disease.  Again, my very, very best wishes to you both.  :)
Posted by: italybound, Monday, March 26, 2007, 9:48am; Reply: 31
Over in the 'hearing loss' thread, it is hypothesised, if you will, that nerve can be regenerated. If this is so, maybe the damage from MS can be undone. We'll hope so anyway. Check that thread out ok gals. :-)
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, March 26, 2007, 9:55am; Reply: 32
do I understand you right, that im principe that you've had best resultd when getting your needed supps but you can't afford em??) ......:o :o

ok..ok...I am looking forward to integrate this into our project too ;) :D but please be a bit patiente :K)
thanx for your fine ::)-opener :K)


(dance)(smarty)(sunny) :K) :K) :K)
Posted by: italybound, Monday, March 26, 2007, 10:05am; Reply: 33
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
do I understand you right, that im principe that you've had best resultd when getting your needed supps but you can't afford em??) ......:o :o


yep, that's what she's saying............     Hi Isa!!!
wish we could all these nasty health problems we all have.  :-/   trying to figure out what to do or what to take is sometimes like
well off to have a before I have to get up and really face the day.  ;D
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, March 26, 2007, 10:15am; Reply: 34
::) Italy, thweety  ;D ;D....perhaps can you help me to create something valide...have to talk to U in private (smarty)(dance)(whistle) 8)


but then none of those lazy animals have to be seen in future ;) ;D :D....
Posted by: Major, Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 5:18pm; Reply: 35
Found out I have Relapsing-Remitting Multiple Sclerosis (RRMS) back in May, 2011. Went to the hospital and was diagnosised with "a-typical stroke"... even released from the q-u-a-c-k house as this (ordered to take 81mg aspirin daily... morons!). Luckily, a neurologist brought in on the bizarre case (perfect cholesterol, no plaque build-up, etc ~ poster child for someone who should never have a stroke!) ran 2 MRI's (one on head, other on spine) and did a spinal tap which confirmed MS days after my release. I'm a secretor, got rid of the mercury in my mouth years ago (all gold now), been taking food-based organic herb gluten-yeast free multi-vitamin & mineral suppliments with antioxidant blends, and had been on the BTD for about a year (got rid of some pounds and returned back to my normal high school days weight, felt good, etc.) when this 'event' happened. Just glad it wasn't a stroke! Apparently, the nerve damage from my radical lung surgery in 2007 that I rationalized was due to all the lung resections and stripping my pleural lining was actually my first MS 'flair-up' (numbness on left side down arm to wrist still, including inability to use left hand [yes, I'm left-handed] for few weeks after surgery, inability to sweat on the upper left quadrant of my body still, and general unexplained fatigue (thought it was just old age...) was really symptoms of my first MS 'flair-up'. The one this year has taken out my left hand again for months now, and includes numbness on the left side of my tongue/lips/chin so slurring is a bit of a problem (not to mention biting my toungue a lot). I can now at least hold a pen and print (cursive, including my signature, is out) about a sentence with great difficulty only early in the morning after a lot of sleep, typing one handed is a pain, and the slurring has gotten better but is worse if I try to talk fast. I'm on Avonex - weekly intermuscular injection I give myself - an Interferon beta drug, that is supposed to help keep the attacks mild and seldom. Luckily I qualified for a 2-year free supply of the expensive stuff from Biogen Idec since I'm unemployed and have little resources. Supposed to be the latest and greatest for RRMS out there... :(

However, there's also the Vanderbilt Protocol (long-term antibiotic w/vitamin boosting approach to fight MS caused by the Chlamydia Pneumoniae bacterium, killing the bacteria in all three of its phases... while trying to also protect one's liver!) and since my MS may have been initially 'triggered' by my lung issues/surgery (couldn't write after discharge from hospital, numbness on left side, no sweating in upper left quadrant of my body, etc.), this may indeed even be the cause of my MS. However, as I currently have no insurance and no income, my options for now are severely restricted to this program from Biogen Idec, makers of Avonex (yeah, me sticking myself with a needle... never thought I could do it!). I have however started working cooking parttime at the local Waffle House which does now offer insurance - down side is the first year it only covers medical expenses up to $2000 annually (not gonna help me much), then you are eligible for their 'comprehensive' plan which is more like a normal group health care - perhaps by then I can actually look into doing the microimmunofluorescence (MIF) diagnostic test to test for Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn), see if indeed the bacteria exists in my system, and work on finding a neurologist/physician who will do the Combination Antibiotic Protocol's (CAP) for treating Chlamydia Pneumoniae... Apparently, if I do test positive for the bacteria, the 1-3 year CAP treatment is very dangerous requiring intense monitoring, supplements, and expenses, and may not be covered by all insurance policies since it's a bit experimental. Fortunately I have the first phase of MS, Relapsing-Remitting and at such a late stage in life, so there's a lot of hope for the disease never getting me to the point of it's more progressive and aggressive form before I'm old as hell anyway...  :'(

I'm also considering filing for Social Security Disability Insurance as I would qualify as my writing and speech has not come back 100% keeping me from working in my normal field (registered professional engineer: code consultant - Fire Marshal - systems designer), plus I could still work parttime as long as I did not make more than $1000 a month  :B

PS - The info on the Vanderbilt Protocol is perhaps the most advanced on the actual cause and cure of MS (main reason for this post) - so new it is not accepted by most AMA  brainwashed neurologists, but for those MS victims with the willingness to undergo radical treatment that costs lots and is very dangerous.... see: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1002
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 5:40pm; Reply: 36
your BT is B?

forget my asking......I remember you now
the Greenbrier shoots lady ;)

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perhaps some day in the future I'll have a question where my blood type is pertinent and this great mystery will be solved for ya


will the great day be today??? or not pertinent enough to solve your great mystery?
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"he" - are you sure Major is a male? could
just be rank... (probably
think I'm white too)
;D

we keep all records, and I personally am glad you shared this part of your compelling story with us.....so holler if there is something we might be able to help you with

Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 5:43pm; Reply: 37
hello Major, would you mind to let us know your blood type??) ;) ;D (pray)
Posted by: Major, Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 2:42pm; Reply: 38
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hello Major, would you mind letting us know your blood type?


Is one's blood type relivant to someone's multiple sclerosis? I can't find anywhere that indicates it is. :o

I could be mistaken and if so, please advise how and if indeed relivant then perhaps such pertinent information should be forthcoming...  :X
Posted by: grey rabbit, Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 7:28pm; Reply: 39
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Is one's blood type relivant to someone's multiple sclerosis? I can't find anywhere that indicates it is.
Probably, but if you don't think it is relevant, then why are you here? Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'd like you to leave, it's just that I don't understand why you are posting on a message board that is dedicated to healing based on what a person's blood type is when you don't think it matters.
Posted by: grey rabbit, Tuesday, July 19, 2011, 7:33pm; Reply: 40
P.S. I thought this site was rather interesting MS especially the possible environmental links.
Posted by: Major, Monday, January 30, 2012, 3:14pm; Reply: 41
Is one's blood type relivant to someone's multiple sclerosis? I can't find anywhere that indicates it is.


Quoted from grey rabbit
Probably, but if you don't think it is relevant, then why are you here? Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'd like you to leave, it's just that I don't understand why you are posting on a message board that is dedicated to healing based on what a person's blood type is when you don't think it matters.


It was a trick question


NO, your blood type has NOTHING to do with developing MS.

My posting here on this 'forum' of blood type obsessives is to provide info to those with MS searching for answers to help them with understanding their disease (see big info post above and follow the trail). They need to know that just eating right for their blood type is not the answer in itself.

MS is caused by the CPn virus, and it's persistence is due to the virus' third phase, cryptic, that keeps it from being destroyed by whatever blood type antibodies you may, or may not, have. Eating right for your blood type is still important in a sense so those with MS can keep their immune systems at peak efficiency to help endure the task of fighting this virus and curing themselves (or at least slow it down such as by using interferons and antibiotics if the more radical treatment can't be tolerated/afforded).
Posted by: Major, Monday, January 30, 2012, 3:46pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from Major
I'm also considering filing for Social Security Disability Insurance as I would qualify as my writing and speech has not come back 100% keeping me from working in my normal field (registered professional engineer: code consultant - Fire Marshal - systems designer), plus I could still work parttime as long as I did not make more than $1000 a month :)


Update:


Went into hospital 12/7-26/2011 (yep, thru xmas...) and had right lung 'fixed' this time (VATS with pleurodesis), and the hospital stress (antagonistic nurse from hell and a $#!+ room) triggered another (third) MS relapse. Numbness on right quadrant of body was added this time, AND lost dexterity in right hand this time (yep, pretty much lost use of both hands, now...). There was lots of MS pain associated with the new numb areas, and normally steroids can be used to mitigate this, however due to side effects of steriods interfering with healing from surgery, it was determined that I just endure the pain - lasting about 4-6 weeks ~ oh, and pain pills have NO effect on pain that actually is derrived from the central nervous system - fun, eh?

GOOD NEWS: I finally qualified for SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) and in two years, I'll qualify for medicare, so I can look seriously at the Vanderbilt Protocol CAP cure at that time (or at least adding antibiotics to my interferon treatment). Meanwhile, I had to quit working at the Waffle House (turns out short order cooks are 3x more likely to develop lung bullous, the reason for my lung surgery, AND the heat was also exaserbating my MS... that was probably the WORST job I could've had with my two health issues...) since I can't use my hands except to drop things alot, heh, heh.

This disability income is also VERY good in that I'll finally have enough money to get back on my vegetarian version of my BTD (had to rely on my parent's 'charity' for food which was no where near qualifying for my blood type and 38 year vegetarian commitment, especially since their diet is mostly meat oriented which left me with the 'other' stuff - plus having to live in their house temporarily was stressful in that they're VERY antagonistic, essentially constantly exaserbating my MS with the unecessary stress).

Posted by: Major, Monday, January 30, 2012, 3:55pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from Spring
So, what might be your obsession I wonder.

(disappointed)


My obsession is surviving multiple sclerosis, period.

...is this a major enough "type"? After all, is IS slowly killing me!


Quoted from Spring
I think you are more like your parents than you would like to admit...


...and some just antagonize for the sake of it (dead)
Posted by: Spring, Monday, January 30, 2012, 4:21pm; Reply: 44
I think you are more like your parents than you would like to admit...
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, January 30, 2012, 5:41pm; Reply: 45
Major, have a Google of the inclined bed therapy if you get a chance regarding it's positive effects on severe cases of MS.

It is my experience that MS react well to a blood type diet by the way.

Are you blood type B?
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, January 30, 2012, 6:16pm; Reply: 46
to use antibiotics for B's or AB's nonnies can be more harmful then anything else... especially for explorers..... one of our members a B male cured himself from a beginning leucemia with lr4yt.... he's a nomade but with very toughy explorer traits....
btw.... when antibiotics can kill dolphins (as they did  in the last weeks here in Switzerland) what do you think are they able to do with and for us??) .....
Perhaps biig time to wake up .... ;) ;D :o(clap)(ok)(smarty)
Posted by: Major, Monday, January 30, 2012, 11:51pm; Reply: 47
Quoted from Amazone I.
to use antibiotics ... can be more harmful then anything else...


Unless we're talking about our brain slowly detaching itself from our body [i.e. multiple sclerosis, scarring and deterioration of the central nervous system (CNS), essentially disconnecting...]

No, with CPn all bets are off for this little b-u-g-g-e-r, which actually crosses over the blood-brain barrier to cause a multitude of persistent CNS diseases like MS, etc.:

Chlamydia Pneumoniae (Cpn) is a tiny bacterium which is most often noted for causing a form of pneumonia. Up until the 1970's it was not even isolated and was mistaken for a virus. The only way to cure it is to take a combination of antibioticsi (Combination Antibiotic Protocols), to kill it in all of its life phases (three: EB, RB, and aberrant/cryptic) so nothing is left behind to re-infect. This can take a long time depending on the load of Cpn in your system, the organs infected and other variables. Typical courses of 1-3 years are not unusual.

EB’s- Elementary Body What are they? EB’s are spore-like forms which are infectious and metabolize minimally (aren’t using nutrients, replicating, exchanging with the environment, etc.).
RB's- Reticulate Body What are they? Once an EB enters a host cell it transforms into a form which can replicate new EB's which is called a Reticulate Body or RB.
Cryptic form- What are they? When RB’s face an environment which threatens their survival inside a cell (lack of food, antibiotic attack, etc) they can transform into a “Cryptic” form which stays inside the cell, but is in hibernation, so to speak. What do they do? In this form it is not vulnerable to regular antibiotics and can reside there until conditions change, then become an RB again and start to replicate and reinfect with EB’s.

see: http://www.cpnhelp.org/simple for more info.
Posted by: Major, Monday, January 30, 2012, 11:55pm; Reply: 48
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Major, have a Google of the inclined bed therapy if you get a chance regarding it's positive effects on severe cases of MS.

It is my experience that MS react well to a blood type diet by the way.

Are you blood type B?


I'll keep the bed info in mind if I ever get to the more advnced stages of MS and become more bed-bound...  :)

;) ...and roger on the BTD's assist with keeping the immune system robust to help with the antibiotics, interferons, etc. that help battle the disease's cause: CPn.

Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 12:52am; Reply: 49
Bs are prone to MS

read the story
something' s got to give! :)
Beating MS with the BTD: The story of Debbie Cardone
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/02/10/beating-ms-with-the-btd-the-story-of-deb?blog=37

B's have more MS they also have a problem with nitrous oxide, they use it up really quickly NO effects the size of your blood vessels. Going to higher altitudes makes them fell better,  the altitude  more then likely effects the size of your blood vessels some how.
Dr. D already found this connection
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&ei=cDURS5COLIzHlAfrh6mxAg&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAgQBSgA&q=nitrous+oxide+blood+vessels&spell=1
.
http://www.newsmax.com/health/multiple_sclerosis/2008/08/26/125005.html
Posted by: Major, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 4:03am; Reply: 50
Quoted from Lola
Bs are prone to MS...read the story: "Beating MS with the BTD: The story of Debbie Cardone"
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/02/10/beating-ms-with-the-btd-the-story-of-deb?blog=37


She was type O, not B... (the specific blood type is insignificant as far as MS is concerned anyway...) and indicates "I haven’t taken any medication since I was on the BTD for a month ten months ago." - this is back in Feb. 2006... any update on how it's worked out (i.e any relapses?) for the past six years?!? She never talks about how she was actually diagnosed with MS.. just having optic neuritis, a common MS relapse symptom true enough, or was there ever spinal tap oncological banding detected combined with MRI evidence to confirm the diagnosis? Extreme fatigue with being overweight will put you in a wheel chair! As far as chiropractor's go... well, not exactly a real doctor ::)

Well, here's my take on my experience:

I went from June 2007 (my first lung surgery on my left lung - and my first MS relapse, but unknown at the time) to May 2011 (when I had my second relapse and was officially diagnosed using MRI's and spinal tap) - so, I went four years (not just 10 months) on the BTD, oblivious to my even haviing MS, and as such was not on any MS medication before finally beginning interferon in June 2011.

I'd also felt good during these four years, but was getting older (58 - attributed the minor fatigue to that), had got back to my high school weight (148 back down to 125 lbs), capable of exercising, etc. - then some extraordinary stress hit (filing bankruptsy pro se, about out of money, trying to find work, parents demanding my help constantly, etc.), and POW! My second relapse hit me in May 2011 that pretty much ended my engineering career, took me down, and forced me into disability - started on interferon (Avonex weekly self injection). Third relapse was around last xmas (surgery+stress)... and so apparently, interferon alone is NOT ENOUGH (BTD helps, but NEED the CAP antibiotic protocol...)

So,... in other words, my jury indicates the BTD alone is NOT GOING TO CURE/TREAT MS... MS treatment/cure is extremely complex, requiring a multi-level approach... it is life threatening, and demands more than some simplistic approach.
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 5:35am; Reply: 51
Major, would you want please to get more informed about orthomolecular treatments here(pray)(pray) :)www.orthomed.org   those are the canadian groups and do have marvellous guys with huge knowledge and best results in all kinds of neurologic disorders as well .....
greetings and best wishes to you from Switzerland
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 7:30am; Reply: 52
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She was type O, not B... (the specific blood type is insignificant as far as MS is concerned anyway...)

wrong
page 110 of the BT Encyclopedia is eye opening

Bs and ABs and specifically non secretors are highest, also rh positive

watch out for optic neuritis

the virus has a B like appearance...thus the B system cannot produce anti B antibodies

so depending on your blood type, you can follow the recommendations and protocols given
to each their own, so get a hold of an encyclopedia
Posted by: Dr. D, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 11:16am; Reply: 53
The CPn theory of MS is not new, and has a considerable amount of observational reports to suggest that there is some role for Chlamydia pneumoniae in the progression of the disease. However there is a wide discrepancy between the Vanderbilt team and other centers that have tried to duplicate their results For example, a head-to-head comparison on the same samples done in 2002 yielded widely differing results:

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Cerebrospinal fluid samples from controls and patients with multiple sclerosis (MS) were split and sent to laboratories with different experiences for the detection of Chlamydia pneumoniae by polymerase chain reaction. Vanderbilt investigators identified C. pneumoniae in the majority of patients with MS and uncommonly in controls. Laboratories at Johns Hopkins University, University of Umeå, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did not identify C. pneumoniae in any of the samples. Conflicting reports of C. pneumoniae detection in the some samples from patents with MS highlight the need to exchange detection techniques among laboratories involved in this controversy.


Many pathogens, including Chlamydia pneumoniae, (Borrelia is another) have been associated with MS, and many MS patients are PCR negative for CPn so I  doubt that any single infectious agent is the cause of MS in every patient. This is probably an accurate assessment:

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MS might be an infectious syndrome in which C. pneumoniae has a role in a subset of patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16996738


The appropriateness of whether or not people want to try antibiotics presumptively for suspected CPn infection is a discussion that really should take place between a patient and their health care team and not on the internet. In many instances I'm sure that they will be tolerated and might be worthwhile. Nobody has the complete answer and patients should explore all opportunities.

Genetic variations like ABO, secretor status or whatever probably influence progression of most degenerative disease via a seed-soil type of relationship, versus direct cause and effect.  
Posted by: Major, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 1:55pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from Dr. D
Quoted Text
Cerebrospinal fluid samples from controls and patients with multiple sclerosis (MS) were split and sent to laboratories with different experiences for the detection of Chlamydia pneumoniae by polymerase chain reaction. Vanderbilt investigators identified C. pneumoniae in the majority of patients with MS and uncommonly in controls. Laboratories at Johns Hopkins University, University of Umeå, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did not identify C. pneumoniae in any of the samples. Conflicting reports of C. pneumoniae detection in the some samples from patents with MS highlight the need to exchange detection techniques among laboratories involved in this controversy.


IF this issue was researched more, it would be found that the problem actually was with the incompetent way these other '3rd party' labs failed to properly test the samples - their methods were flawed which is why they never discovered the CPn connection in the first place... you know, antineoplaston therapy for curing cancer had a similar prejudice preventing it's validation, which is similar to the prejudice the BTD had to go thru for it's acceptance... :B

Quoted from Lola
get a hold of an encyclopedia


been there, done that  ::)

Quoted from Amazone I.
Major, would you want please to get more informed about orthomolecular treatments here(pray)(pray) :)www.orthomed.org   those are the canadian groups and do have marvellous guys with huge knowledge and best results in all kinds of neurologic disorders as well .....greetings and best wishes to you from Switzerland


The english is hard to follow, but still I went to the website, found a lot of links for donations and to organization sites... not much on MS. Not sure what info was intended with the pot except to glorify orthomolecular 'science'?
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 2:46pm; Reply: 55
Major, just in case you don't realise, people on here are trying to help you but your replys seem little aggressive. I for example am just as passionate on my beliefs as you may be about yours.

This can happen when using just the typed word with no back up information from the the face or tone of voice and can work both ways. I am often misunderstood because of this too, perhaps be aware. :)

it would be helpful if you added your blood type to you profile. this helps everyone.

we have many discussions on vegan-ism for example.

By the way with relation to the inclined bed therapy - it is effective for some at an early stage.


Posted by: paul clucas, Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 4:49pm; Reply: 56
Major, your immune system interacts with every bit of food that you eat.  Your ABO blood type regulates the microbal aspects of the sealed preparation environment for your food; your intestinal tract.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3093412

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7202442

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/803885

MS and the Paleo Diet.

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/xh0wz_miladskaya_the-paleo-diet-and-multiple-scleros/1#videoId=x59iwc

The information in the Conference Video was most specific.  I am interested in your opinion of it.
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 4:55pm; Reply: 57
needed to stick this thread.... ;) :D :K) and wish you all the best my dear friend and it wasn't meant to glorify whatever.....and I apologize for my pidginings... but don't feel bad.. I won't change it anyway.... ;) ;D ;D :X
Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 3:36pm; Reply: 58
Just was told about this Dr. who researched nutrition when diagnosed with MS.
Minding your Mitochondria

http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxIowaCity-Dr-Terry-Wahls-Min;search:tag:%22tedxiowacity%22#.TxgujHf2nBE.facebook

Props to Dr. Bland.  ;)

Nourishment.

It comes down to getting enough of what you need to have your body function properly.

Didn't read the whole thread, just saw a connection- so apologies if this was mentioned.
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