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Posted by: hedonisticallyinclined, Friday, February 16, 2007, 5:03pm
I am still on a bumpy road attempting to convince my husband to follow the diet. However, his cardiologist called me yesterday to tell me in no uncertain terms that he wants my hubby on cholesterol lowering meds. I think this might be a great push that my hubby needs.

Anyway, now I need to convince the doctor to give us some time to test this supposedly questionable (from MD point of view) diet on my hubby without the meds.

My question to you is – is six weeks reasonable enough time to see an improvement in tryglycerides and cholesterol lowering in my hubby?

His medical stats:
Cholesterol – 255
Tryglyc.-     173
HDL – 38
LDL- 182

If you had tests done to see your improvement of cholesterol, could you tell me how long it took you and just how diligent were you in following O –type diet? (I know he will have a very difficult time giving up a splash of half and a half in his morning coffee. Not to mention coffee!)

Thank you!
Posted by: geminisue, Friday, February 16, 2007, 5:28pm; Reply: 1
My numbers were very close to that of your husbands, and following BTD lowered the ones that needed lowering and raised the HDL as needed,  that was the hard number for me, but if your husband is able to walk any amount of time at all each day it will be to his benefit with that number and will help the other numbers as well.  Olive Oil-3 T a day, walnuts 1oz a day, pumpkins seeds heated in flaxseed oil and seasoned with seasalt, curry at times and at other times something else. 1 oz a day.  meat for breakfast daily, egg whites most of the time, a yolk thrown in 2-3 times a week, beneficial veggies, or just onions and garlic cooked on top of stove, put in oven for ten minutes with salsa and when removed sprinkled with nutritional yeast.  Great meal of two add a salad with oo and lemon juice.  Great! and filling.  

Try drinking after meals, water, seltzer water, green tea, carob water(hot)

Try and get 3 months, he should be willing especially if hubby commits to trying.
The meds are miserable especially those containing niacin,  makes you itch all over within half an hour of taking,  doctor says that shows its working.  This is a night time med. I was able to get off of quite awhile ago.  I was on 3 each night and about went crazy had to get up and shower, was red like I had scarlet fever again was really scary.
zitia is one that can safely be taken before meal when the most fat is eaten and it will get the fat eliminated fast, if he has to have one, ask about that one.

Garlic is very good for lowering  I eat 1-2 t a day in just about everything.
Posted by: hedonisticallyinclined, Friday, February 16, 2007, 7:47pm; Reply: 2
Thank you for your prompt reply, geminisue.

So did it actually take you three months or shorter/longer to see any difference in your cholesterol/tryglycerides levels?

Also, how compliant are you? (100%, 80%, etc.?)

He only drinks mineral water, water or red wine and 2 cups of coffee....which I am not sure if I can convince him to give up (nor do I know if I need to...I don't want him to give up all "food joys" entirely unless it is absolutely nessesary to lower his cholesterol...thus my question regarding your compliance).

Thank you again and good health to you!
Posted by: KimonoKat, Friday, February 16, 2007, 10:02pm; Reply: 3
To see faster, more noticable results, have your husband's secretor status tested asap, and follow the specific diet in the Health Series Cardiovascualr Book.  Eliminate all avoids and infrequent neutrals, no matter how small the amount in the product/food.
Posted by: geminisue, Saturday, February 17, 2007, 3:49am; Reply: 4
I'd say 90% compliant eat beneficials, no avoids (except around holidays) and very few neutrals.
My blood was checked after being on it three months, so I don't know if it happened sooner than that or not.  I was really working on eating enough beneficials to be able to get rid of oxygen use at the time  I was on oxygen 24/7 for 6 years.  Increased use of cayenne pepper using it daily, along with garlic and onion, and added what I told you above because of chloresterol results.  My hdl was up to 45 last test (doctor wants it 60 or above)  I will be getting another test in about a month will leave you know how they go.  I also drink half my weight in ounces of water a day.  If your hubby insist on having his coffee, make sure he drinks two glasses of water for each cup he drinks,  hopefully he will be able to give it up soon.  Maybe even put less coffee in the pot, it will weaken it, it may help him get rid of it sooner.   Just ideas.
Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, February 17, 2007, 4:29am; Reply: 5
When I was weaning us off coffee, I started by making it w/half regular grindy-beans and half decaf. I cut down our caffeine gradually, and we had no problems. Then we added cups of green tea. I still don't like green tea, but like white tea, so that became mine.
It was not my idea to give away the last beloved grindy-beans, nice pricey fancy-flavored coffee beans, but I didn't fight it too much.  :'(
I'd like to suggest experimenting with different compliant teas & flavorings/sweetners. The thought of staying away from the need for the meds and all their concomitant complications of $$ and side effects ought to be motivating.
I agree w/the secretor test asap, absolutely, and the cardiovascular protocols. I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but I'd bet there would be measureable results in 4-6 weeks w/100% compliance w/the cardiovascular book & knowledge of secretor status.
geminisue, you are an inspiration to the rest of us, an example of perseverance :K)
Posted by: hedonisticallyinclined, Saturday, February 17, 2007, 5:35pm; Reply: 6
Thank you, everyone, for posting! I was not aware that there is a cardiovascular book out there!
I'll definitely look it up.

As always, the biggest road block here is a mental one....I was told once that people are motivated either by pleasure or pain. Well, in my hubby's mind the PLEASURE of coffee (and cigarettes, and bread, and....etc.) far outweighs the pain of sickness. I can't imagine how this wonderful and bright (when it comes to everything else) man can be so thick-headed when it comes to his drives ME insane!
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