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Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:06pm
Hello!

I am new on this thing. But I am hooked.

Hey, I didn't bought all those books. I have been frequenting the library, so I guess I cheated a little? Well anyway, it allowed me to read through both "Live right 4 your type" and "Eat right 4 your type", and still be able to pay my rent. Nice. Maybe I'll buy one of them later, I don't know.

But what I do know is that I have all these burning questions. Specific questions to maybe errors and misprinitings and questions about foods not listed. Is there anywhere I could post and pose these questions and be certain they will be both read and answered? As I said, they are quite specific, so I guess it would be easy for the skilled (the authors perhaps?) to answer them, and it would do good to all new readers and perhaps future reprints.



A big thank to the webeditors (two big thanks if someone answers this positively)
Lasse
Denmark[/color][color=green]
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:11pm; Reply: 1
Welcome Lassie,

Browse around the site and become familiar with all the features here.  If you look at the top right of the page, you will see a link called "member center."  If you click on that link, it will take you to a page where you can pick an appropriate avatar, to represent your Blood Type Shield.  This comes in handy when others are trying to help you answer questions.  Also on that link you can create a special message under your shield, and a personal signature that will appear in all your posts.

Ask as many questions as you need.  We're all here to help each other succeed on this new way of living and eating.

ETA:  If you have a question, try posting it first in the ER forum.  If the topic is not relevant to that forum, one of the moderators will move it to the appropriate forum.

Many of the members here use the "Recent Threads" link, which will bring up a list of all the threads (new and old) that have had posts since the individual's last visit.  So, where ever you ask your questions, someone will answer them.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:19pm; Reply: 2
Horray!  You got your shield and you are an A!

What are the specific questions that you have?  Ask away Ms. Lassie!
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:21pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from KimonoKat
Horray!  You got your shield and you are an A!

What are the specific questions that you have?  Ask away Ms. Lassie!


That's Mr. Lasse, to you.  ;)
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:32pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from outdoordrea


That's Mr. Lasse, to you.  ;)


How embarassing!  My apologies to Lasse!
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 11:52pm; Reply: 5
Lasse,
typebase (top bottom here) has all the updates in food values, according to secretor type.

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm
also the errata page might already have the answers to some of your questions.



http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi
http://www.dadamo.com/fao/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1090345453

http://www.dadamo.com/columns/weekly/ask2.pl?20060117.txt
there s so much to read in this website!
enjoy!
and ask away!
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, January 26, 2007, 1:16pm; Reply: 6
HI Lasse
Finally another dane- beware ;-D
I sent you a personal message- just to welcome you :-)
Posted by: Debra+, Friday, January 26, 2007, 1:26pm; Reply: 7
Welcome Lasse to the forum.  Glad to hear that you are hooked.  ;)  Questions...just ask away and someone will surely help you out.  Like said above...lots to read on here.  Enjoy.  :D

Debra :)
Posted by: Janet, Friday, January 26, 2007, 1:50pm; Reply: 8
Yes, Welcome to you Lasse and am happy for you too Henriette, that you have a fellow Dane on the forum.
Hope you enjoy the 'learning' process Lasse!!
Posted by: Brighid45, Friday, January 26, 2007, 1:55pm; Reply: 9
Hello Lasse, nice to meet you :) Please ask all the questions you wish, you'll find plenty of friendly people here to answer them for you. Nice to have another A on the board. I look forward to your posts. :)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:02pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Lasse
Hello!

:D Hello, and welcome to the BTD cybercommunity!!!
Quoted from Lasse
I am new on this thing. But I am hooked.

This is the best thing you could get hooked on!

As has already been pointed out, you can check the errata link for any corrections to the books.  I personally think one of the most important corrections to point out to anyone using LR4YT as their main source of BTD info is that the fruits and veggies recommended portions are supposed to say per DAY, not per WEEK, so that is a big difference--you can and should eat a lot more fruits and veggies than what is printed, so it is so good that the errata page on this site clears that up.  The diets for the various types are all customized and very different from each other, but one thing they all have in common is an emphasis on vegetables and fruits, so dig in!  LR4YT is a great book to buy because it really gets into the secretor/non-secretor refinements.  ER4YT is my fave, the classic, the one I always recommend to newbies to this day because it is SO clear and provides such a complete overview of the theory.  Even though it's food lists doesn't contain the secretor/non-secretor refinements and are some of the foods (only a few) have changed in status, it is still an essential classic for any BTDer.  So, what I recommend is, get both ER4YT (for your bedrock foundation, this will firmly ground you in BTD theory), LR4YT (for important and fascinating secretor/non-secretor refinements), AND use Typebase4 if you have any doubt about a food's current status.

Welcome again and I'm glad you are lovin' your A diet!!!



Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:19pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from janet
am happy for you too Henriette, that you have a fellow Dane on the forum.

I´ve got Poly as well ;-D
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:21pm; Reply: 12
Oh wow. Impressive! This is a very lively Forum, I must say.

Well, now that I have recovered from the painful mistake by (Ms.?) KimonoCat, I am able to write a small comment on all them postings. lol. And yes I have my shield up now. And I am an A I learned that two weeks ago.
  In Denmark (apart from Faroese Islands and Greenland which is still a neglected part of our Kingdom. Iceland cleverly ran away some fifty years ago I believe :D), we are almost 50-50 O's and A's. Perhaps the O's are descendants from the feroscious Vikings? Well, not many real Vikings here nowadays anyway lol.

I'll definitely check up on these erratas and see if some answers maybe hidden there for me. Then I'll return with all thats left unanswered. Thanks Lola and Peppermint. ;)


Lasse

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:30pm; Reply: 13
Lasse,
looking forward to your posts!
Posted by: 547 (Guest), Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:45pm; Reply: 14
Hello Lasse!

Welcome from Holland from another type A..  ;D

Great for Poly and Henriette to have a compatriot on board... to exchange with..

You will find this board utterly supportive and helpful..

Take care and stay hooked!!  :)

Cocky  8)
Posted by: KimonoKat, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:47pm; Reply: 15
Quoted Text
Well, now that I have recovered from the painful mistake by (Ms.?) KimonoCat,


I apologize Lasse!  I misread your hat name as "Lassie."  

Looking forward to seeing you on the forum!
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Monday, January 29, 2007, 6:04am; Reply: 16
Lasse,

Wilkommen!  Bienvenue!  Welcome.

What the blood type diet is, is nothing less than a massive paradigm shift of thinking about diet and human health in general.  In other words, it's going to change the way you think about everything.  

As such, it's going to be a lot of new information, but it will be information that explains much, much more than what you've typically been carrying around in your head as being true.  The thing that will clench the deal in your mind, in the long run, will be the undeniable results you get off this diet and approach to health.  I don't want to make any promises, but I myself have virtually no doubt that you will be astounded and changed forever for the better.

At some point, after you've gained a significant degree of success with the diet, I would strongly, strongly suggest that you take the "secretor test" that Dr. D'Adamo talks about in his books.  It's going to be hugely important to your health to know it, for the reasons that are listed in the following link:

http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Secretor_Status

That's it from me.  Once again, welcome.  
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Monday, January 29, 2007, 2:36pm; Reply: 17
Just a comment.

Thanks Ronagon and all.

Yes, the BT connection is just fascinating. And still its so simple and straight forward. I learned about it some weeks ago, and I am really busy with heaps of other things going on in my life at the moment, and I wanted to put that issue on standby for a while, but I just couldn't let it be! I had to read more and more and soak up some of that knowledge lol.    
    But still, I do not want to go to extremes with the BTD. Not yet at least. :P I have always been eating a quite varied menu and feel I have had a quit good feeling for what my body needed and what to eat and do and what not to, according to my situation in life. I have loved experimenting with new exotic ingredients. And never felt 'bad' about that. And I guess I am going to eat some amounts of socalled 'Avoids' too in the future, but not as a basis of my food of course.

I hope you guys agrees and also acknowledge the fact that we humans real are build and made to live in tough environments and cope with challenges or what we now call 'stress' quite well. After all thats what often develop and educate us as persons and humans. Seeking the odd or get aquainted with what we didn't knew already. Thats how we grow to a large extent in my view (and even in a scientific view too). So I don't believe (at the moment) eating some Avoids and stressing the system a bit, is going to kill og infect anybody. It could also be a bit healthy in fact. If we all just mixed with people with the same ideas as ours and same views or looks and habits, and never challeged ourselves, we would grow pretty limp. I am still not completely convinced, that it is any different with food and blood type. I have to study more on that at least. But in the midst of all this, its still nice to know where you come from or how your body is originally 'designed', so to speak.

Saying all that, I would definitely try out an extendend diet on "BT Super food" at some point! I think perhaps there is a whole and brand new world of energy, upgraded lifeforce and opportunity lying there, waiting. Perhaps I (and others of course) have been living on a 'false' and lower energy state in life, holding back the real potential? hehe..

Have fun, and be good. see you...
Posted by: Don, Monday, January 29, 2007, 3:56pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Lasse
Saying all that, I would definitely try out an extendend diet on "BT Super food" at some point! I think perhaps there is a whole and brand new world of energy, upgraded lifeforce and opportunity lying there, waiting. Perhaps I (and others of course) have been living on a 'false' and lower energy state in life, holding back the real potential? hehe..

Yes, I feel those that follow the BTD right for their type have a huge advantage in all aspects of life!

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, January 29, 2007, 5:37pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Lasse
Yes, the BT connection is just fascinating. And still its so simple and straight forward. I learned about it some weeks ago, and I am really busy with heaps of other things going on in my life at the moment, and I wanted to put that issue on standby for a while, but I just couldn't let it be! I had to read more and more and soak up some of that knowledge lol.    
   But still, I do not want to go to extremes with the BTD. Not yet at least.  I have always been eating a quite varied menu and feel I have had a quit good feeling for what my body needed and what to eat and do and what not to, according to my situation in life. I have loved experimenting with new exotic ingredients. And never felt 'bad' about that. And I guess I am going to eat some amounts of socalled 'Avoids' too in the future, but not as a basis of my food of course.

I hope you guys agrees and also acknowledge the fact that we humans real are build and made to live in tough environments and cope with challenges or what we now call 'stress' quite well. After all thats what often develop and educate us as persons and humans. Seeking the odd or get aquainted with what we didn't knew already. Thats how we grow to a large extent in my view (and even in a scientific view too). So I don't believe (at the moment) eating some Avoids and stressing the system a bit, is going to kill og infect anybody. It could also be a bit healthy in fact.

For a person who is generally in good health, I agree with all of the above and I think you have a very healthy approach going into the diet.  You're going to do very well!!!
Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 29, 2007, 10:12pm; Reply: 20
lasse,
here something for you to read, on dairy consumption in Sweden....
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive9/config.pl?read=50986
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 1:49am; Reply: 21
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I am still not completely convinced, that it is any different with food and blood type. I have to study more on that at least.


I recommend spending some time in the Media Center and in the Wiki.

Here's a wiki entry that, to me, says it all regarding lectins.  Scientists have known since 1945! that there were plants with blood type specificity.  They've known since around 1914 that there were plants that were species specific in regards to agglutinating  blood.

Who would want to eat something that agglutinates your blood?  Make it stick together.  Make the serum look like cotton candy.  To me, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize that's not something you want happening on a cellular level inside your bodu.

Posted by: Alia Vo, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 4:14am; Reply: 22
Welcome Lasse,

Glad you are embracing this lifestyle.

For your persusal...alot of the foundational precepts and concerns regarding this lifestyle:
http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi

Alia
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 10:59am; Reply: 23
Quoted from lola
lasse,
here something for you to read, on dairy consumption in Sweden....
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archive9/config.pl?read=50986


Dearest Lola
Why should Lasse read about dairy comsumption in Sweden ? he is danish ;-D

I really think Lasses aproach is both wise and sensibel IF he is healthy  and young.

I think that sometimes we get so absorbed in BTD  that we can almost scare beginners away with information about secretor- etc
"you have to make a clean cut etc...."" Only eat beneficials etc "" "look in the health books"

I think it is fine starting with baby steps.....

Please don´t misunderstand me:
I think it is helpful to give theese informations - BUT it can be OK just to start out with certain aspects of a theory.

HOWEVER if I was seriously sick I would appreciate ALL the information
so keep it coming :K)
- just be aware that we are all individuals and we might make this BTD "road" in different speeds- some of us stop and take a break - and continue after a while- some never goes further than half the way !
;-)  every step is fine !

Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 8:26pm; Reply: 24
Scandinavian?

why shouldn t he read something I consider important, and I wanted to share it with him.

besides, you are not so far appart........;)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 9:45pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from lola
Scandinavian?

why shouldn t he read something I consider important, and I wanted to share it with him.

besides, you are not so far appart........;)


Sorry  :B
- I had just spent half a day explaining americans ( on another board ) that Denmark is NOT the capital in Sweden......
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 2:29am; Reply: 26
LOL.........hope they understood!!
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 7:49am; Reply: 27
I´m not sure ;-D
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 8:03pm; Reply: 28
Hi.

Thanks for the links and advice Kimono, Peppermint, Ali and Lola. :)
  No, you are right Lola, we are not so far apart, the Swedes and the Danes. In geographical distance. It’s just in our minds we can be so different and far apart. Like seperate worlds sometimes. It might be a bit odd for most people not living in Europe to understand I guess. It is also very silly. Here everything can be so small, you wouldn't believe it. But I think this link can be of good use anyway.
  Remember that the Swedes own and directs almost all of our dairy industry now Henriette!  So I believe they are allowed a say on how we consumes it? :D The "Arla" company has bought everything. Scary…  

Yes, you are all right, it can be a bit overwhelming. Phew. I get all absorbed in this, and I have been neglecting so much else in my life lately. But, it shouldn't consume so much  brainpower to exchange a few things in my daily diet. I guess?  :)
  But Its all these Forums and all this stuff here that consumes my time and all. Its so exciting. I must take a little break now and slow down on it. I have been searching the net for a week or so for a good place to find answers to some of my initial questions, but now I think I have found out where all you other BT dudes were hiding... ;) that is a good first step for me.
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 8:05pm; Reply: 29
I havn’t been able to find answers to questions about Pasta here. That’s some of the things I was currious about in the first place. Things like:

Why is Pasta Beneficial, when most Pasta is made from 100% durum wheat, which is an Neutral food?

And why is green Pasta (with spinach) an Avoid, when both pasta and spinach is Beneficial?

And why is durum wheat bread an Avoid food, when durum wheat flour is Neutral ?


(remember I am an A)


Lasse
Scandinavia, Earth :P
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 8:34pm; Reply: 30
All durum wheat product are neutral, avoid the whole durum wheat flour and products. see the typebase.
Laugh for me please I am Italian and I must not eat common bread, pasta and pizza !

Maria Giovanna
Posted by: Alia Vo, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 8:44pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from Lasse

And why is durum wheat bread an Avoid food, when durum wheat flour is Neutral ?


I think it is related to the fact that many commercial wheat products found in conventional grocery stores contain avoids such as a gums, preservatives, or fillers.  If you were to make your own bread or baked goods with durum wheat this would be fine (this information is relevant to 'A' secretors).  'A' non-secretors are not encouraged to eat wheat nor corn.

It is always a safe measure to read food ingredient labels to ensure there are no avoids.

Alia
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 9:40pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from Lasse
Why is Pasta Beneficial, when most Pasta is made from 100% durum wheat, which is an Neutral food?

And why is green Pasta (with spinach) an Avoid, when both pasta and spinach is Beneficial?

And why is durum wheat bread an Avoid food, when durum wheat flour is Neutral ?

First and most important, I think you are referencing the food values from the original ER4YT book. Some of those values have changed and some of the way food is listed has changed. I suggest you get the newer book LR4YT or use typebase for food values. I think that will clarify your questions.

Pasta was not beneficial in ER4YT, "Pasta, Artichoke" was, which was supposed to be pasta made purely from artichoke, versus spinach pasta, which is just spinach flavored wheat pasta.

Are you using the term durum wheat bread instead of whole wheat bread? Whole wheat is worse for all blood types because it has a higher lectin content the white wheat.
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:13am; Reply: 33
The thing with Durum


Hi folks.

Quoted from ironwood55

Pasta was not beneficial in ER4YT, "Pasta, Artichoke" was, which was supposed to be pasta made purely from artichoke, versus spinach pasta, which is just spinach flavored wheat pasta.

Are you using the term durum wheat bread instead of whole wheat bread? Whole wheat is worse for all blood types because it has a higher lectin content the white wheat.


Both DW bread and WW bread is listed as avoids. DW flour is still listed as a Neutral, making it odd that DW bread is an avoid.
  Alia might be right on the preservatives and stuff, but I don't believe that explains its avoid listing in the book. I could be making my own DW bread, and would it still be an avoid? It can't be. It must be Neutral. Its just confusing.

You are absolutely right. Pasta never was a Beneficial, its not even listed! So I must conclude that ordinary cheap Pasta from the supermarket made of DW flour, is a Neutral, just as its ingredient.
  It is still confusing, that Pasta with spinach is an avoid, when ordinary Pasta must be neutral and spinach (although not much is added) is a beneficial. Green spinach flavoured Pasta, must at least be a Neutral. It must be a misprinting? I haven't checked the errata listings thoughly enough I must admit.
  Thanks for the info on Artichoke Pasta, I had no clue to what it was, thought it just might be flavoured with artichoke.


PS.
I have written this without regards to secretor status. I haven't tested my self for that  yet and thereforee I regard myself as an ASec, according to Dadamoa suggestions. It also helps keeping listings a bit more simple. We don't want to drown in the details. They are what they are and thats details.




I am thankful for your educated replies...
Lasse
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:19am; Reply: 34
Quoted from Maria_Giovanna
All durum wheat product are neutral, avoid the whole durum wheat flour and products. see the typebase.


Oh, Maria, I believe you said it all. I am sorry.

But it just strengthens my point on Durum Wheat Bread and Pasta with Spinach, both must be Neutrals and not avoids.

Am I right?

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:23am; Reply: 35
spinach pasta or beet pasta, if made with durum are fine for you, just always check ingredients.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:27am; Reply: 36
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It also helps keeping listings a bit more simple. We don't want to drown in the details.


Typebase4 is the most up to date for food listings.  It doesn't matter at this point why a food was classified as it was in the past.  Further refinement of the categories and/or new information or Dr. D's own testing has moved the food to a new cateogory.  Further expansion of the BTD theory as outlined in Live Right includes secretor status, as well as lifestyle strategies for stress and ideal exercise for the different types.

If you are dealing with any health issues at all, knowing your secretor status can make the difference from noticing some change in your health to actually healing it.  I personally think knowing your secretor status for Type A's is very important because more foods change value from secretor to nonnie than any other Type. 26+ foods change.

Jmho, of course.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:30am; Reply: 37
the 'pasta artichoke' you mention is not made from artichokes, per se,
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"Pasta, Artichoke" was, which was supposed to be pasta made purely from artichoke
, but from 'Jerusalem artichokes', or sun chokes which are similar to potatoes, if memory serves me right.

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?34


http://www.naturalways.com/Jerusalem-Artichoke-Flour.htm
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 12:33am; Reply: 38
also being an A and knowing your subtype, besides secretor status, can help a great deal.

subtypes MM in A
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype5.htm
Posted by: OSuzanna, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 1:51am; Reply: 39
Quoted from Lasse
...Yes, you are all right, it can be a bit overwhelming. Phew. I get all absorbed in this, and I have been neglecting so much else in my life lately. But, it shouldn't consume so much  brainpower to exchange a few things in my daily diet. I guess?  :)
  But Its all these Forums and all this stuff here that consumes my time and all. Its so exciting. I must take a little break now and slow down on it. I have been searching the net for a week or so for a good place to find answers to some of my initial questions, but now I think I have found out where all you other BT dudes were hiding... ;) that is a good first step for me.


I know right where you're coming from! When I started BTD nearly a year ago, I was too sickly to work, and had been for well over a year. I owned the first  book, borrowed LR4YT and the cookbook from the local library, and sat here in front of the computer, reading, reading, reading, laughing, learning, till my a** was sore and my eyeballs dried out! Started feeling much better less than 48 hours after starting BTD (I went 95% compliant right away), and 6 (count 'm, six!) weeks later was well enough to go back to a full work week.
After that, finding out my secretor status put the icing on the cake, health-wise.
But I read for many hours a day, every day for six weeks, and now get withdrawal symptoms if I'm away from the forums for more than a couple days.
It does feel overwhelming at first, but in a joyful, optimistic way. You absorb so much! You begin to feel more confident going to the grocery store and in restaurants....
This is a wonderful place :D That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it, LOL
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 1:53am; Reply: 40
and it can be considered a 'safe addiction'!!!  lol
Posted by: OSuzanna, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:01am; Reply: 41
;D to Lola
Posted by: OSuzanna, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:04am; Reply: 42
The food didn't change, the research improved. One of the seniors will correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by: jsgrierson (Guest), Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:20am; Reply: 43
Quoted from Lasse


Yes as said and explained, I wrote from what ER4YT said. Another of many questions of mine, was why some foods changed status in LR4YT? Ezekiel bread dropped from Beneficial to Neutral (both types), Fennel upgraded from Neutral to Beneficial (for secretors), just to state some differences. How can this happen? Did the lectine-like molecules dissapear all of a sudden? Was the biochemestry changed, was it misprintings in ER4YT? What?
  When I read the foundation on the categorization of food subjects, its way of discriminating seemed pretty clear cut and progressive. Progressive in a way, which couldn't possibly upgrade or downgrade a food. Only if other aspects than those discussed and explained in the books were taken into account also. Is that the  reason perhaps?
  Should I always trust the newst versions of a foods categorization?  

I do not want to sound dull and destructive at all, I hope you guys know this, but in order to educated myself and understand more, I have to be positively critical. Otherwise I wont make any progress. So this question is for those who endorse this aspect of the Blood Type Diet discussion.



Lasse
A(Sec let's say)



Not being a scientist I do not even try to understand the testing or the status of foods as reported by Peter Dadamo. You might almost say that it is an article of faith for me that he is a genuine scientist and is working towards the betterment of humankind in this blood business. So if foods change status, I just assume that tests are getting more accurate, technology is developing all the time, and mistakes are being addressed. The only alternative would be for me to enter a new career of naturopathy/food science which is not my choice at the moment.
But a great back up for me has been that my body is a laboratory in itself, and I can watch the effects of eating food for my type, or food not for my type.
It's great to ask questions and to get answers, but they will not always be the ones one expected!
Cheers,
Jenny

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 2:48am; Reply: 44
Lasse, the reason for food value changes is basically because ERFYT did not introduce the non secretor issue yet.........the publishers decided the 'public' would not be 'ready' for so much information.

and in a way, they were right.;)

so LRFYT comes along and gives the big announcement........the fact that almost 20% of the world population are non secretors!!!!  it was quite an eye opener!!

and all who had already read ERFYT were very much prepared for more health breaking news!

hope you will also enjoy learning about this incredible lifestyle!
giving you the tools to lead a healthy life!
and now that we all 'master' the food lists, Dr D comes out with the health series!!!!
Quoted Text
Dr. D.:
the cancer book just does a more up-to-date
take on things,  with the disease focus.
Earlier books did it as best as could be done
at the time.


GTD is on its way!!!! ;D

Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:07am; Reply: 45
Quoted from MoDon... I think you are referencing the food values from the original ER4YT book. Some of those values have changed and some of the way food is listed has changed. I suggest you get the newer book LR4YT or use typebase for food values. I think that will clarify your questions.


Yes as said and explained, I wrote from what ER4YT said. Another of many questions of mine, was why some foods changed status in LR4YT? Ezekiel bread dropped from Beneficial to Neutral (both types), Fennel upgraded from Neutral to Beneficial (for secretors), just to state some differences. How can this happen? Did the lectine-like molecules dissapear all of a sudden? Was the biochemestry changed, was it misprintings in ER4YT? What?
 When I read the foundation on the categorization of food subjects, its way of discriminating seemed pretty clear cut and progressive. Progressive in a way, which couldn't possibly upgrade or downgrade a food. Only if other aspects than those discussed and explained in the books were taken into account also. Is that the  reason perhaps?
 Should I always trust the newst versions of a foods categorization?  

I do not want to sound dull and destructive at all, I hope you guys know this, but in order to educated myself and understand more, I have to be positively critical. Otherwise I wont make any progress. So this question is for those who endorse this aspect of the Blood Type Diet discussion.



Lasse
A(Sec let's say)
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:14am; Reply: 46
Oooops!

I deleted my own posting on differences between ER4YT and LR4YT. Originally because I had 1 posted question already. The Durum Thing. And its not healthy having too many questions running in one thread. But some of you already replied on that note, so now its here again.... :P

And besides I believe I can answer my own question. At least I need to check the errata listings first.
   Maybe I was being a bit grumpy? Well I am originally educated as a scientist myself, so I have a mean tencency to "go for the throat" when it comes to science.

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:21am; Reply: 47
Lasse,
next step you should take is read the LRFYT book.
things will fall into place then.......
you will understand the tiers concept which is also another way of categorizing food status.

read a bit on this issue to understand the concept better:

Tier system is explained at:
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075124989
Posted by: 1415 (Guest), Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:21am; Reply: 48
Reply to Jenna:

hehe...no not always what one expects. That's the magic, isn't it? Well said.
   And yes what you  say about yourself also applies to me: Unless I intend to become a naturopath or a physician myself, I would have to have either faith or not in the scientists working here. A good lesson that even in hard science, we have to believe in the good and constructive in other people. It's an all pervasive thing. I am glad you reminded me.  :)


last post from me...(yawning and stretching)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 3:30am; Reply: 49
you are welcome! ;)
Posted by: Don, Thursday, February 1, 2007, 5:02am; Reply: 50
Quoted from Lasse
Yes as said and explained, I wrote from what ER4YT said. Another of many questions of mine, was why some foods changed status in LR4YT? Ezekiel bread dropped from Beneficial to Neutral (both types), Fennel upgraded from Neutral to Beneficial (for secretors), just to state some differences. How can this happen? Did the lectine-like molecules dissapear all of a sudden? Was the biochemestry changed, was it misprintings in ER4YT? What?
  When I read the foundation on the categorization of food subjects, its way of discriminating seemed pretty clear cut and progressive. Progressive in a way, which couldn't possibly upgrade or downgrade a food. Only if other aspects than those discussed and explained in the books were taken into account also. Is that the  reason perhaps?
  Should I always trust the newst versions of a foods categorization?  

I do not want to sound dull and destructive at all, I hope you guys know this, but in order to educated myself and understand more, I have to be positively critical. Otherwise I wont make any progress. So this question is for those who endorse this aspect of the Blood Type Diet discussion.


Quoted from ironwood55
First and most important, I think you are referencing the food values from the original ER4YT book. Some of those values have changed and some of the way food is listed has changed. I suggest you get the newer book LR4YT or use typebase for food values. I think that will clarify your questions.


Quoted from KimonoKat
Typebase4 is the most up to date for food listings.  It doesn't matter at this point why a food was classified as it was in the past.  Further refinement of the categories and/or new information or Dr. D's own testing has moved the food to a new cateogory.  Further expansion of the BTD theory as outlined in Live Right includes secretor status, as well as lifestyle strategies for stress and ideal exercise for the different types.

I suggest you read: Ask Doctor D'Adamo - More Book Differences

Dr. D has previously written in the old message board that the actual number of food value changes, that were unrelated to the separation of secretor and non-secretor values, was only about a 9-12 (if I remember correctly), which reflected the advances in basic scientific knowledge about the food.

The reason that Ezekiel bread changed value from beneficial to neutral was based on the discovery that the manufacturer was not fully sprouting the ingredients.

I don't know for sure the reason for the fennel change, but my guess is that since it is neutral for type A non-secretors that Dr. D considered that value to override the type A secretor beneficial value when he wrote ER4YT and had to only provide one value.

Another big difference between ER4YT and LR4YT was what and how foods were listed. LR4YT simplified the food lists. TYPEbase has simplified it even more. TYPEbase has fewer products listed, leaving it up to the user to evaluate products based on the ingredients list. For example, ice cream is no longer listed, just check the ingredients yourself. This approach is better and leads to less confusion. If the food ingredients are OK then the product should probably be OK.

I continue to look forward to more changes in food value recommendations as scientific advances allow Dr. D to fine tune and expand on what he has already offered us. Some of that could be based on new research about a food item, but we expect most of it will come from a better understanding of out individuality. The next book I believe will be titled The Genotype Diet and is due out in 2008. The good thing is what is already available seems to work well for just about everyone. So any improvements will just make this wonderful system work even better!



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