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Posted by: 107 (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 1:57am
I am starting to piece together that not only is my son sensitive to citric acid, but there is a similar reaction to abscorbic acid.  Now I realize they are both corn-derived.  He is pretty sick right now with coughing, runny nose, red eyes, and slight fever, but I think it has something to do with abscorbic acid.  I noticed there is ascorbic acid in the pear juice box drink that I give him occasionally, and now he is sick.  On top of that, Sat. night, unknown by me, my parents gave him popcorn.  He is an O, and man is that bad.

Anyone else have a bad reaction to ascorbic or citric acid?  I am thinking that the actual citrus fruits that are neutral for him may be okay for him, just not the corn-derived citric acid.
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:04am; Reply: 1
I avoid every thing that has asorbic or citric acid in it I do poorly with all of those, it is the corn, really Tina, niether you or your son should eat anything that you don't make yourself just to avoid problems having to do with the 2% rule
Posted by: Drea, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:18am; Reply: 2
Quoted from lkpetrolino
I avoid every thing that has asorbic or citric acid in it I do poorly with all of those, it is the corn, really Tina, niether you or your son should eat anything that you don't make yourself just to avoid problems having to do with the 2% rule


Laura, refresh my memory on the 2% rule. Please?
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:26am; Reply: 3
Thanks I know you are right, and Yes, Laura, what is the 2% rule?
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:27am; Reply: 4
If there is less than 2% of an ingredient in a product they don't need to list it on the label.  So basically you could be eating a product that has 1.98% pig dung and wouldn't know it
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:33am; Reply: 5
Yikes, that's scary.  I will remember that for sure!  especially the pig dung!  That should sear it into my head very nicely!!  Thanks Laura   :P
Posted by: OSuzanna, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:51am; Reply: 6
Oh, Laura P, you card!!! Hee heee heee heee, you sure have a way of making a memory stick!!!!  :X :P ;D ;D ;D

PS, Tina, I think that ol' devil corn messes me up more immediately & dramatically than wheat! It really can cause problems just in small amounts, unfortunately, and they sneak it into just about everything, grrrr >:(
cheer up, you've lived & learned -however, those relatives sound like a work in progress  ::)
Posted by: ooh-la-la (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 3:01am; Reply: 7
This post has got me wondering...
Is Ester-C derived from corn?
That is what I've been taking.
Posted by: carmen, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 3:10am; Reply: 8
Ascorbic/citric acid, often doesn't state derived from where. As a typical O type, it doesn't agree with me. It is the most common 'natural' preservative listed sometimes as just 'vitamin C'. Gives me raging headaches... from decades ago. I generally avoid corn but don't get any noticable reaction to fresh corn or even maize meal in foods (don't really like it anyway).
It's fun (not) finding vit C supplements - ascorbates (calcium, magnesium etc) are fine but more expensive of course, and watch the other ingredients or fillers.
:)
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 3:13am; Reply: 9
Quoted from ooh-la-la
This post has got me wondering...
Is Ester-C derived from corn?
That is what I've been taking.


yes all ester-c is corn dervived

Posted by: Janet, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 7:31am; Reply: 10
:'(Me and ascobic acid are bad news...BIG TIME...it triggered Candida the last time I took it in some adrenal supps. (But probably because I was told to take 3 per day, instead of one.) It took me ages to get it out of my system and under control again!!
I have to say that pre btd, when I took Redoxon for 2-3 days, if I felt a cold coming I never had any side affects.  ??)
Can't say I've had any problems with citric acid.  

Tina, really hope your son is feeling better very soon.  :)
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 8:44am; Reply: 11
Laura??)
esther C from N.F.
Vitamin C 600mg's
calcium from ca-ascorbat 70mg's
arabinogalactan 100mg's
Quercetin 50mg's
Multi-Anthocyanidins 50's


where is that bloody stuff then ??) .......:D

Posted by: ooh-la-la (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 2:55pm; Reply: 12
Thanks for that info Laura.
I wonder if there's a website listing the
terminology for everything that could
be derived from corn...

Also, now I'm going to have to find some good
food sources for vitamin C. I have depended on
supplements for so long.
I omit citrus, nightshades from my diet and I'm
not crazy about salads.
Posted by: ooh-la-la (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 3:28pm; Reply: 13
Looks like broccoli and cabbage are good sources of vitamin C, but I have to eat them cooked, can't stand them raw.
Other fruits have C, I always associated it mostly with citrus.
I wonder if canned pineapple has an adequate amount, I love canned pineapple in juice.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 6:39pm; Reply: 14
la,la:
here s a lnk
http://www.cornallergens.com/list/corn-allergen-list.php
Posted by: Melissa_J, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 7:14pm; Reply: 15
So it's not just me...I find that citric acid is more often corn-derived than ascorbic acid is, but ascorbic acid is taking too many chances.  Bummer is that most fruit juices are fortified with it, so I make my own pineapple juice now.  A blessing really, since fresh is so much better and healthier anyway with all the enzymes intact.  

Gives me a bad headache with goose-egg bumps on my head...like I got hit on the head too hard.  Weird really, must be wreaking havoc inside.  Natural flavors also get me, as they are usually combined with corn alcohols as the carriers.  Most juices that don't have other junk do still have natural flavors added, same probably goes for artificial flavors, but it's not as common in the stuff I buy.

My question whether calcium citrate is any good for me, since citric acid is used to make it.  It doesn't bother me as much as most things with citric acid involved in them, but maybe a little.  Too bad since I have to take a lot of calcium, but I suppose I ought to bite the bullet and make it all phytocal and clearcal.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 7:20pm; Reply: 16
Heidi used to promote calcium citrate over carbonate........

but ofcourse there s no comparison to phytocal and clearcal.
Posted by: ooh-la-la (Guest), Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 8:09pm; Reply: 17
That's a great reference list!
And calcium citrate is also derived from corn?
Oh my, I will have to re-assess everything now.
Phytocal and Clearcal are OK? I'll google them
and see what I can find out...
Thanks to Lola, from lala
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 8:23pm; Reply: 18
Pretty much if it doesn't specifically say it is not derived from corn, it is............my philosophy on things like this, as bad as it sounds, is ALWAYS ASSUME THE WORST :(
Posted by: Alia Vo, Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 10:11pm; Reply: 19
In addition to the fact that many of these additives are corn based, corn is one of the top GMO US grown crops.  

Thus, if buying corn or corn products, I would favor purchasing organic food items.

Alia
Posted by: Darko2300, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 5:44pm; Reply: 20
Hmm.  Citric acid can also contain MSG (or free glutimate.)  Its in way more things than I thought - I've even been getting MSG headaches from my nutritional yeast.  For a fairly comprehensive list, visit:

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

So if its not corn, maybe.....

??)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 8:20pm; Reply: 21
great site to know, Thanks Darko!
Posted by: Lisalea, Thursday, January 25, 2007, 10:57pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from ooh-la-la
Looks like broccoli and cabbage are good sources of vitamin C, but I have to eat them cooked, can't stand them raw.
Other fruits have C, I always associated it mostly with citrus.
I wonder if canned pineapple has an adequate amount, I love canned pineapple in juice.


Hello,
Here  r some Vitamin C rich foods:
Red-green  peppers
Strawberries
Brussel sprouts
and
Kiwis have more vitamin C than oranges !!:)
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Nectarines
Mango
Grapefruit
Peaches
Spinach
Sweet potato
Zucchini
Green peas

;D
Posted by: Don, Friday, January 26, 2007, 7:59pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from ooh-la-la
I omit citrus, nightshades from my diet and I'm
not crazy about salads.

Why do you omit citrus?

I enjoy lemon juice in the morning and in my salad dressing.

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