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Posted by: 107 (Guest), Friday, January 19, 2007, 8:33pm
Just had some random passing thoughts about nonniehood and thought I would throw something fun out there for us.  If you can think of more "You might be a nonnie if's" just add them on!  Have a great weekend all my special nonnie friends (and of course you wonderful secretors as well!)  

You Might Be A Nonnie If:

1.  Your standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food just to get people off your back has become "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."

2.  Foods that others consider wonderful, tasty treats look more like rat poison on a silver platter.

3.  You've been accused of being a little overly sensitive and cautious about food and life in general.  Can we say hypochondriac, anyone?

4. You can feel the presence of an avoid around you like a 6th sense.  (Where is that pesky breadcrumb hiding?  Why, I oughta...)  Before an avoid even enters your mouth, you are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that."

5.  Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other.  (Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

6.  You are a little envious of others who can rake in the junk, never get sick a lick, and then look like they just walked off the runway, yet you are so thankful that eating healthy and living right will increase your lifespan and enhance your overall life in general.  You are thankful that its "in your blood" to be the way God made you!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 1:24am; Reply: 1
seems you have it well figured out!! lol
Posted by: Alia Vo, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 1:49am; Reply: 2
These ponderings be applied to our secretor community, as well.

Alia
Posted by: SusieD, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 1:55am; Reply: 3
YES and amen! Always feeling that one has to work twice as hard to get half as far.

Diane
Posted by: Whimsical, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:59am; Reply: 4
You might be a nonnie if...

You have perfected the art of baking with vegetable glycerine and nut flours.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:30am; Reply: 5
(clap)(dance)(clap)(sunny) :-/ :B 8) :K) :D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:50pm; Reply: 6
Kate,
we re all ears for some of your personal ' art of baking' recipes!!! lol
Posted by: Whimsical, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:24pm; Reply: 7
There are plentiful in Typebase - my own creations have my name in the title, but some are from the Nonnie Recipe group or modified from online or books.  Check out recipes under chocolate, bananas, sweet potatoes, almonds...
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:53pm; Reply: 8
thanks!
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:03pm; Reply: 9
Those folks who eat the junk & look great will not look great in middle age.
Then they will blame it on hormones, general aging, stress, etc,----but not diet.
We all have those things, but diet as well as other good habits sure slow them down.
We hopefully, don't gloat.  We thank God for the wonderful info we have recieved!
S S & L,
Mrs "T"    O+
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:27pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Tina
You Might Be A Nonnie If:

1. †Your standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food just to get people off your back has become "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."

2. †Foods that others consider wonderful, tasty treats look more like rat poison on a silver platter.

3. †You've been accused of being a little overly sensitive and cautious about food and life in general. †Can we say hypochondriac, anyone?

4. You can feel the presence of an avoid around you like a 6th sense. †(Where is that pesky breadcrumb hiding? †Why, I oughta...) †Before an avoid even enters your mouth, you are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that."

5. †Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other. †(Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

6. †You are a little envious of others who can rake in the junk, never get sick a lick, and then look like they just walked off the runway, yet you are so thankful that eating healthy and living right will increase your lifespan and enhance your overall life in general. †You are thankful that its "in your blood" to be the way God made you!

:D :D :D †
(clap)(clap)(clap)

Oh my goodness, Tina, that is a great post! †Aaaah ha ha ha ha haaaaa! †So funny because it is so true!

*tee hee HEE*
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, January 26, 2007, 2:27pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from SusieD
YES and amen! Always feeling that one has to work twice as hard to get half as far.

Diane

Word!

Posted by: SusieD, Saturday, January 27, 2007, 1:41am; Reply: 12
Thanks for the encouragement, Miss PT... sometimes I get so weary, feeling different and alone, but this friendly community always boosts me up.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Saturday, January 27, 2007, 9:35am; Reply: 13
Susie; thatwhay we are named*the royals* ;) :D .......:X
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 5:29pm; Reply: 14
5. † † Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other. †(Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

Could you elaborate on this one? †It sounds like you just quoted my Father; I NEVER could chew quietly enough for him. †Are our senses heightened because weíre nonnies? †I like bland food because tastes come across so strong.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 5:37pm; Reply: 15
right, the hypersensitivity!
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 4:28pm; Reply: 16
Yeah, I want to know more about this too.  My siblings always told me, growing up, that I was too sensitive to everything physically and emotionally, but I couldn't help it!  I couldn't help it that I was either too hot or too cold or that all shoes were too tight or that waistbands itched or my hair tickled my face or that the insides of my cheeks itched.  I'm still hyper-sensitive to sound (I either hear it too loudly or I don't hear it at all) and temperature (low thyroid talking) and the words people say to me (what did they mean, and what could they have meant?)....but I'm better now that I have the BTD.  And I get better the older I get.

I have two to add:

You might be a nonnie if......you people-watch just to try to diagnose their food allergies based on the color of the bags under their eyes and where they wear their fat.

You might be a nonnie if......you can accurately guess your friends' blood types based on their health complaints.
Posted by: Stormy, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 4:57pm; Reply: 17
WOW! †Although not tested, I BELIEVE I am a nonnie; and reading this post pretty much convinces me. † :)

The sensitivity part really hits home, boy. †I find the new headlights in cars too bright and am blinded by them when I drive at night; †have to protect my eyes when approaching them - and that's kinda dangerous! †Also, cannot handle any wheat, be it kamut or spelt; nor most sugars, including honey, agave, maple syrup. †Ingesting any of the aforementioned sends me into such an emotional tailspin, it takes days to become balanced again. †(I swear, it's how my recent "relationship" fell apart . . . had some food that had sugar in it over Christmas and became weird and emotional . . . well, weirder than normal . . . † ;D . . . )
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 8:32pm; Reply: 18
::) Stormy, how familiar to me ::) ;) ;D
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 8:42pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Debbie
WOW! †Although not tested, I BELIEVE I am a nonnie; and reading this post pretty much convinces me. † :)

The sensitivity part really hits home, boy. †I find the new headlights in cars too bright and am blinded by them when I drive at night; †have to protect my eyes when approaching them - and that's kinda dangerous!

Stormy, just wondering, have you ever been diagnosed with rosacea? †This is a pretty mysterious disease which they don't really know the cause of, but it apparently can have one or several combinations of different causes and it certainly can present with different symptoms and progress or not progress along in different ways in different people. †I've been diagnosed with it myself. †In case you are not familiar with it, the vastly oversimplified and overly-generalized description is that your face would most likely sometimes "flush" red in certain situations. †But another thing with rosacea can be that it can have ocular involvement, which they call "ocular rosacea". †I have not been diagnosed with that part, yet I do have a sensitivity to bright light, just as you describe. †The way you describe yours just made me want to ask if you do have rosacea. †If so, you may have "official" ocular involvement or you may just have more sensitivity to light than most people, as I do, which I suspect is all tied in with the rosacea, even though I don't officially have ocular involvement.

If you read this and think you might have rosacea, relax, as being on the BTD is one of the best things you can possibly do for it. †In fact, that is all I do for mine, other than now trying to stay out of the direct sun, which is a tall order in Florida. †I'm lucky because I seem to have a rather mild case that is not progressing much, if at all, in the past few years.

Posted by: Linda, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 8:45pm; Reply: 20
Ack!  The sensitivity!  I remember as a kid the trouble my mother had with me when it was time to buy new shoes.  NOTHING was comfortable.  Shoe shopping was such an ordeal.  And keep that scratchy wool ten feet away from my skin.  I almost jump out of bed every morning when the hot water heater in the closet clicks on.    Oh.....I could go on.

You know your a nonnie if...

The aroma of crispy, hot bacon makes your body swell.
Posted by: Stormy, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 9:55pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
::) Stormy, how familiar to me ::) ;) ;D


You experience similar symptoms to wheat and sugar??
Posted by: Stormy, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 10:05pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Edna

Stormy, just wondering, have you ever been diagnosed with rosacea? †This is a pretty mysterious disease which they don't really know the cause of, but it apparently can have one or several combinations of different causes and it certainly can present with different symptoms and progress or not progress along in different ways in different people. †I've been diagnosed with it myself. †In case you are not familiar with it, the vastly oversimplified and overly-generalized description is that your face would most likely sometimes "flush" red in certain situations. †But another thing with rosacea can be that it can have ocular involvement, which they call "ocular rosacea". †I have not been diagnosed with that part, yet I do have a sensitivity to bright light, just as you describe. †The way you describe yours just made me want to ask if you do have rosacea. †If so, you may have "official" ocular involvement or you may just have more sensitivity to light than most people, as I do, which I suspect is all tied in with the rosacea, even though I don't officially have ocular involvement.

If you read this and think you might have rosacea, relax, as being on the BTD is one of the best things you can possibly do for it. †In fact, that is all I do for mine, other than now trying to stay out of the direct sun, which is a tall order in Florida. †I'm lucky because I seem to have a rather mild case that is not progressing much, if at all, in the past few years.



No, I don't think I do . . . I've never experienced the redness associated with the disease. †However, I just read a bit about ocular rosaceas and they say it's something that can develop later in life (40s and 50s - moi!) and one of the treatments is to eliminate spicy foods, alcohol and caffeine †. . . †interesting . . . so, could have it but be asymptomatic (except for the light thing).
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 10:12pm; Reply: 23
wheat and sugar ::) it *depends* ;) ...but honey is just :P :P :P , someone who just cooks pork...yech I could  ::)....and gals and guyen, there's a woman who wrote about us, but I don't found out the link: it's something about *the hypersensitive person* or similar...Yamaaaaan please help out here....you know it where it's to be found....please ....and yessss people without any behaviour...gona go to ::) em....:-/
chewing or other actions, please go to the next room ;) ;D .....
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 9:55pm; Reply: 24
Yes, I am so super sensitive, but definitely better now on BTD, just around my monthly times I am still pretty bad!   :P  My dad was always like this, on the edge all the time!  I find myself doing the same.  I also have to run a fan at night because of the constant whirring sound.  I can't stand the total quiet because I hear everything around me, even breathing.  It has gotten better though, but I still much prefer my fan.  (My hubby doesn't care for it too much!  He says, "Why do you want noise to sleep?"  He thinks I am nutsy!)

Slurping soup just grates on my last nerve as well, slurping anything, hot tea, whatever.  Just thinking of the dental drill noise makes me want to scream.  It's like I can feel the noises itself.  Yikes!  I think it is a nonnie thing because we are just so sensitive...period.  I am finding that magnesium, calcium and tyrosine does help though.  

P.S.  That catechol about knocks me out!  It makes me sleepy...
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, February 8, 2007, 12:00am; Reply: 25
When I was little, my younger sister and I shared a room.  She always fell asleep way before I could even think about winding down from all the imagined stresses of the day, and she would snore so loud!  I'd turn her over, jerk her pillow out from under he head, plug my ears with cotton, turn on a fan....and I could still hear her.  I don't think that she was really that loud, but even her normal breathing would keep me awake.

When it was time to get me new shoes, the entire family (I'm the middle of 5) would be dragged for hours around from store to store trying to find a pair of shoes that didn't hurt.  

Turtlenecks?  Forget it.

Hair pulled back as a kid?  Forget it.  (Although now I can hardly stand to wear it down because it tickles my ears and forehead.)

My eyes are pretty sensitive at night too.  I don't have rosacea.  I have to deliberately look at the right-hand painted line on the road when a car comes so it doesn't blind me.

Interesting, Tina, that you mentioned tyrosine as helpful.  I'm even more sensitive to everything when my thyroid's low.  I'd been hunting for a long time for a gland-free supplement.  I'd been able to stop taking it when I began the BTD, but this pregnancy has really been a drain on my thyroid.  My hair never quit falling out and my midwife said I needed to get something.  So about 4 days ago I started taking a straight L-Tyrosine supplement and I'm already feeling more cheerful.  I'm still really emotionally sensitive and wanting to blame everything on everybody and feeling really sorry for myself, but I can say it's just hormonal, right?  

This is a really interesting and informative thread and it's helping me to understand that I'm not alone!
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Thursday, February 8, 2007, 11:05pm; Reply: 26
I totally understand, Ribbit!  Been there on all those things.  Congratulations on your pregnancy though.  How exciting for you!  How far along are you?  I ordered some tyrosine as well, as I ran out of the Catechol, so am curious and hopful it will help me as well.  I guess it is safe to take during pregnancy?  That is good to know.  

I was so moody during my pregs, first trimester especially.  But after that, I felt great.  I hope that I will have more children myself whenever the Lord wants to bless me again.  Thanks for the post and encouragement.  
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, February 9, 2007, 3:59am; Reply: 27
You might be a Nonnie if:

"The Princess and the Pea" was a fairytale that you really identified with!

You can't stand to wear turtlenecks!  (Thanks for the reminder, Ribbit!)

You have very few teeth that haven't been filled or crowned.

You've always felt "different" from the rest of humanity.

At least once in your life, you've considered how much more simple life would be if you didn't have to eat.  (Am I the only one who has felt like food was attacking me?  {pre-BTD} )
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Friday, February 9, 2007, 4:45am; Reply: 28
Ha!  I love it!  So true about the living without eating thing.  I have said more than once to my hubby, I would feel so good if I didn't have to worry about eating!  Pre-BTD, but also a few times since when my mood was particularly low or irritable.

You know, so true about the filled teeth and crowns, except now that I eat right, my last dental appointment was excellent...and I had not been in 3 years prior!  

I love BTD!
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, February 9, 2007, 3:39pm; Reply: 29
Woo-hoo!  Funny the Princess and the Pea was mentioned.  I was thinking of more "you might be a nonnie if" statements last night as I was rocking my children to sleep and I thought, "The Princess and the Pea must have been a nonnie."  It made me laugh so much I almost woke up the children!

Tina, I'm due May 17....I'd really have to think hard about how far along that makes me.  When I was expecting my first, I LIVED by the calendar and always knew exactly how many weeks along I was and how big the baby was and what developed that week.  With my second, I always knew what month I was in, and now.....some days I forget I'm expecting until suddenly I have to sit down for a while from dizziness (oh, and the hundred trips to the bathroom all day and night).  I guess I'm nearly 6 months.

So my question is why are nonnies so sensitive?  What about children with severe hypersensitivity, who scream when touched and scream when there's anything too high-pitched, or tear at elastic bands and socks and can't stand to have their hair trimmed, and won't eat anything crunchy?  I've worked with children like this.  Taking wheat, dairy and corn out of their diets helped.  I didn't know about the BTD then.  What is it about retaining our blood type antigens that makes us feel too much?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, February 10, 2007, 12:17am; Reply: 30
I would believe, the 'fight back' antibodies are not 'right at the door', you know!
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, February 10, 2007, 1:22am; Reply: 31
Ok, nonnies, here's how I see it!

Secretors:  There is a nice castle with well-fortified walls.  The soldiers stop everyone at the gate, and inquire, "Friend or Foe?" !!  Only the friends are allowed in and the foes are sent away.

Non-secretors:  There is a nice castle with well-fortified walls.  The soldiers stand at the gate and wave everyone in, calling out to all passers-by, "Welcome!  Come on in and we'll sort you all out once you get settled!"

:-)
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Saturday, February 10, 2007, 7:37pm; Reply: 32
That is very creative, Victoria, and so true.  I like this.  I can certainly see it happening.  Only, once the guests are inside the wall, they become enemies and immediately a fierce battle ensues, that lasts for a while until all the enemies are finally destroyed and victory again belongs to the Kingdom inside!  The valiant Sir Dadamo and the BTD Knights of the Healthy Table win the war!  

I am too corny!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, February 10, 2007, 10:47pm; Reply: 33
there are actually no soldiers standing at the gate!!!!
they re all somewhere inside having a ball.......lol

and there is no wall or gate!!!
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, February 11, 2007, 1:04am; Reply: 34
Ha!  Lola, I woke up this morning, and my first thought was . . "oops, there aren't any soldiers at the gate in the nonnie castle!!!"

I see the "gate" as the body openings (mouth, nose, ears, eyes, etc.) and the "wall" is the skin.

And, yep, Tina.  Once they all get inside, we have a mixed bag, and some end up being trouble-makers.  If we eat plenty of beneficials and keep our immune systems strong with good herbs and elderberry, etc., our little soldiers can retore order soon enough.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, February 11, 2007, 6:22am; Reply: 35
;)
Posted by: purlgirl, Sunday, February 11, 2007, 7:04am; Reply: 36
Yes! Yes! Yes! Light sensitivity, wool, turtlenecks, teeth/fillings. Feeling of Hair tickling skin - want to scream. Then it's gone for weeks .... why off & on? was it something I was eating. I wonder.
How about itching inside your ears? and the tip of your nose?

Anybody get the feeling their hair is standing up and about to shoot into space. (hurts) Is that to weird? Some kind of stress reaction. Makes me think of the migrains I used to get .

How about body temperature? Sometimes I'm so cold.

Rabbit what did you mean  "When my Thyroid's low". how can you tell.
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, February 11, 2007, 3:47pm; Reply: 37
I donít know about Rabbit, but when my thyroid levels are low, my energy drops and I become sluggish.  I keep a bag of dried Nori seaweed at home, in my car and at my office.  My co-workers are used to seeing me eat ďstrangeĒ foods.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, February 13, 2007, 10:15pm; Reply: 38
Does the Nori seaweed help that much?  How do you use it?  I cook it in a pot of beans or in soup, but I don't know what to do with it past that.

Purlgirl, if the inside of your ears itch and you're BTD compliant (some foods cause mucus production which can make your ears itch), dump some garlic/goldenseal oil down it and then try an ear candle.

When my thyroid is low, the first thing to clue me in is that I'm cold.  I have a hard time regulating my body temperature and am freezing cold all winter and burning up hot all summer but can't seem to sweat.  I also become really touchy physically and emotionally.  Kind of like what we've been talking about.  But when I take an L-Tyrosine supplement, I'm okay.  If your body temperature is always  low (take it first thing in the morning before you get out of bed or even move too much), it's an indication of underactive thyroid.  Also being tired and unusually grouchy and feeling like you have lead pumping through your veins.  I get paranoid too.

When I was in my early teens (when all my health issues were at their worst), I would sit so close to the fireplace that my skin would actually burn, like sunburn.  It took that much to warm me up.

Do all nonnies have underactive thyroid?  I had thought it was an A thing.

I loved the idea of the soldiers and the walls.  It almost brought me to tears because I see myself as being that was relationally, not physically.  "Everybody come on in!  People are my friends!  Yippee!"  (This, from a paranoid introvert---when my thyroid's low.)  And then I'm surprised when I'm hurt and people take advantage of me.  My dh says I let people run all over me and don't stand up for myself.  Is this a nonnie thing too?
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, February 13, 2007, 10:38pm; Reply: 39
yep ;D ;) in a certain way, it's true :-/

my Ex(an O sechi ) told me all the time, in life you've to decide yourself,do you want to be hammer or anvil...::) and I can't resist to give that reply: better to be the air between ;)
Posted by: RedLilac, Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 2:43am; Reply: 40
The Nori seaweed is a good source of iodine. †I usually eat it as is. † I like to munch on things. †It can also be crumbled up on a salad. †I also put it or other seaweeds in soups and stews.

Before menopause, I used to always be cold also. †Iíd be sitting close to the fireplace with you. †My Ex used to sleep with the fan blowing on his side of the bed because I set the thermostat to 80 deg F. †Of course I had the heavy comforter over me. †Because BTD & menopause coincided maybe it also had a hand in my temperature adjustment. †I now set the thermostat to 68 deg F.(think)
Posted by: purlgirl, Wednesday, February 14, 2007, 7:50am; Reply: 41
Rabbit and Lilac thanks for responding
Lilac - how can  you can tell the Nori helps.
Oh, I thought I had tried Nori but the pkg of sea veg I have contains "Arami".  I need a map.

There is an thyroid/iodine test.  Look in the" Live Right 4 your type " area under "Say it isn't so" # 24, or 32. (sorry I don't know how to link) Going to  try it again tonight.
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, February 18, 2007, 12:58am; Reply: 42
My energy comes back and I feel normal.
Posted by: purlgirl, Sunday, February 18, 2007, 8:41am; Reply: 43
Quoted from Arlene
My energy comes back and I feel normal.


what do you mean?
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Sunday, February 18, 2007, 9:22am; Reply: 44
;D ;D ;D wooohooo please explain the meaning ;) :D ;D and what is *normal* ??) (pray)(think)(dance)(clap)(smarty)(smarty)(whistle)



p.s.
btw our grandmaischda of orthomoleculars in Teutonia Prof.Dr. Uhlenbruck, describes us very well too; I wrote about his textes (tried it ;) ) in my thread about: sports- a killer  ;) ;D ;D......(shhh)(think)(whistle)
(haaa....have an eye on this .....)
Posted by: 982 (Guest), Monday, February 19, 2007, 8:44am; Reply: 45
Well now I'm convinced I'm a nonnie. Everything applies except for the teeth. I have good teeth.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, February 19, 2007, 10:27am; Reply: 46
:o :o :o great for U ;) but where are U ??) no avtar to see ::) :-/
please click on the membercenter and choose a fine design fitting for your type :D and thanx ;)
Posted by: 982 (Guest), Monday, February 19, 2007, 3:05pm; Reply: 47
I'm quite new here. I have ordered my testing kit but I'm guessing I'm an O.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, February 19, 2007, 3:09pm; Reply: 48
ok...ok...accepted ;) ;D :D
Posted by: Don, Monday, February 19, 2007, 3:17pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from mitzi
Well now I'm convinced I'm a nonnie. Everything applies except for the teeth. I have good teeth.

The only way to know for sure is to do the secretor test, but only after you find out your blood type.

Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, February 20, 2007, 3:12pm; Reply: 50
Those of you who have been reading the children/baby section have read about my daughter's apparent allergies.  But for those of you who don't read those threads.....there may be another way to guess if you're a secreter or not if you're not quite ready to dish out the money for the test.  Follow the secreter diet for a while (months), see how you feel, then switch to the non-secreter diet.  We did this for my daughter and her red eye circles vanished.  We now assume she's a nonnie like me.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, February 20, 2007, 6:39pm; Reply: 51
.......if you mind all such suggestions ;) ;D so please have an eye into:

*the highly sensitive person* by r. Elaine Aron

this lady sended me right now an e-mail to ask if I am still interested in her newsletter; so happy I am, because this it was what I tried to make on this board recently.
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, February 25, 2007, 4:46am; Reply: 52
Quoted from purlgirl


what do you mean?


I guess normal is a relative term.  Iím alert and not cold.
Posted by: colorfulveggies, Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 6:07am; Reply: 53
This is so fascinating!  I always thought I was just weird because of my sensitivities:  I hate the soap aisle in the market, perfume smells are overpowering, (yes, Tina) sounds of the dentist's drill!! are like pain, my husband's watch ticking at night keeps me awake, can't face the window in the restaurant, night blindness...must look at the white line on the right to see (like Ribbit), the ordeal of shoe shopping like Linda.  I have preferences about the feel of the cups I use, the edge, the bottom, etc.  As a child, I had a collection of books that I couldn't stand to read because I didn't want to touch the edges of the pages which were stylishly rough and irregular.   I'm more tolerant now and have mellowed out a bit with age.  And since I've been on the BTD,  I don't have as much trouble driving at night.  And I'm not always freezing.  

It's so nice to know there is a reason for some of my quirks!  And that I'm not alone!
Posted by: colorfulveggies, Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 6:13am; Reply: 54
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
.......if you mind all such suggestions ;) ;D so please have an eye into:

*the highly sensitive person* by r. Elaine Aron


Thanks for this reference! †This is a great link:
http://www.painterskeys.com/clickbacks/sensitive-persons.asp

The comments are very interesting and there is a self-test by the author. †
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 9:31am; Reply: 55
::) :o :o :o ;D :D...weew a mixup between TA (transactional anal ysis ;) ) and other goodies ;) ;D


:K) :K) :K) huggies to my neighbour above (smarty)(dance)(clap)(sunny)(shhh)(think)(whistle)



RRRRRRRoooooooddddnnneeeyyyy.....something for U to suscribe ;) ;D :D
Posted by: Lisalea, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 5:45pm; Reply: 56
I happened to read this thread today and how interesting !!   :) ;D
Afterwards,  I proceeded to read this wonderful story and so relate to it :D ;)

http://childhoodreading.com/Edmund_Dulac_and_Gus/Princess_and_the_Pea.html
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 5:51pm; Reply: 57
::) relates to our *royalness* ;) ;D (smarty)(smarty)(smarty)(shhh)(think)(whistle)(sunny)
Posted by: Lisalea, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 6:22pm; Reply: 58
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
::) relates to our *royalness* ;) ;D (smarty)(smarty)(smarty)(shhh)(think)(whistle)(sunny)


U so entertain me *royalness* Tomatilla !!!  ;D :P ;) :) :K) :D :K)
Posted by: 697 (Guest), Tuesday, August 7, 2007, 1:32pm; Reply: 59
Hello everyone!!!!!  :D
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, August 7, 2007, 7:15pm; Reply: 60
Hello, Scout!  :-)
Posted by: 697 (Guest), Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 1:19am; Reply: 61
:waves at Victoria:    ;D
Posted by: OSuzanna, Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 2:32am; Reply: 62
OSuzanna belatedly thanking lucindabryce for the PaintersKeys link.....hope you're doing well...
Posted by: OSuzanna, Wednesday, August 8, 2007, 2:36am; Reply: 63
Quoted from lucindabryce
†...As a child, I had a collection of books that I couldn't stand to read because I didn't want to touch the edges of the pages which were stylishly rough and irregular. † ...And since I've been on the BTD, †I don't have as much trouble driving at night. †And I'm not always freezing. ...†


Wow, the page-edges reference stunned me. I think it's referred to as deckle-edged. I always thought of it as cheap bookbinding..... ;D
Posted by: 1328 (Guest), Thursday, August 23, 2007, 8:39pm; Reply: 64
Today I was just thinking of how differant I am but then thought of all you BTD peoples!  I then said to myself, "I am not the only one that have so many quirks!"  I then smiled to think I'm not alone when I say, "I'm allergic to that....", "My digestive system can't handle that.", "I get sick if I eat that."   I have always noticed how the smells in the soap isle at the stores have just about choked me, now I know why.  :)  

I've always wondered what makes me tick, being on the BTD way has really lifted the fog and now I understand why I am the way I am!
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, August 23, 2007, 8:43pm; Reply: 65
it is a wonderful feeling!!
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Friday, August 24, 2007, 1:50pm; Reply: 66
yep....Lolalein it is ;) ;D :D (dance)(smarty)(shhh)(whistle)

and of course yep to all the other suggs ;) :D .......
Posted by: 1203 (Guest), Saturday, September 22, 2007, 4:37am; Reply: 67
I'm not an O nonny, but I'd just like to say that I admire all O nonny's of the world!
Posted by: 1203 (Guest), Saturday, September 22, 2007, 4:41am; Reply: 68
Quoted from Ribbit
Those of you who have been reading the children/baby section have read about my daughter's apparent allergies.  But for those of you who don't read those threads.....there may be another way to guess if you're a secreter or not if you're not quite ready to dish out the money for the test.  Follow the secreter diet for a while (months), see how you feel, then switch to the non-secreter diet.  We did this for my daughter and her red eye circles vanished.  We now assume she's a nonnie like me.


I like the Bible verse you used below your post; I've been silently quoting this in my head everytime someone finds my allegiance to the BTD a little strange.  My father said "God made all food good", and yes he did, I say, "But not everyone can where pink!".  Some people just don't get it!  
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, September 22, 2007, 5:01am; Reply: 69
Quoted Text
"But not everyone can where pink!".

can wear?
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Saturday, September 22, 2007, 7:32am; Reply: 70
Hi all, as an A secretor I too am a highly sensitive person, just as a first child I did not allow me to be really impaired from this; few good friends, the amount of social interaction and the kind I can stand, and a iron will to cope as I can to all the best anad worst of life ahve made me stronger. Sometimes I just retreat in myself to deal better with my emotion and this allow me to recover.
Maria Giovanna
Posted by: 1203 (Guest), Saturday, September 22, 2007, 4:20pm; Reply: 71
Quoted from lola

can wear?


It may be a stretch, but I think of it in terms of individuality. The color pink clashes with a red-head; wheat in the same sense, clashes with type O blood.  
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Saturday, September 22, 2007, 4:31pm; Reply: 72
ahem ;) I am fine with pink ;D ;D
Posted by: Drea, Saturday, September 22, 2007, 4:50pm; Reply: 73
Quoted from songstress
The color pink clashes with a red-head


I'm a red-head and I can wear pink!
Posted by: 1203 (Guest), Saturday, September 22, 2007, 7:03pm; Reply: 74
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
ahem ;) I am fine with pink ;D ;D


OH NO- don't tell me you're a red-head?! (-and a pink fan, if so, I don't mean to offend!)
Posted by: Mastre, Monday, September 24, 2007, 6:54am; Reply: 75
I find it interesting that so many nonnies have sensory issues. That's also very common among autistics; makes me wonder how big the overlap is between the two groups.

A book well worth reading is "The out-of-Sync Child" by C.S. Kranowitz. It's about sensory processing disorder and was quite a revelation to me. I finally began to understand some of the problems I had during childhood (and some I still have today).
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, September 24, 2007, 9:44am; Reply: 76
::) I didn't felt offended ;) ;D ;D and yessss I am a pink-fan :D....and of cours am I a red-head :D ;D.....
but ok....a colourful- one ;).....merely bordeaux- rouge ;D ;D....so pink underlines that ;D (dance)(dance)(clap)(whistle) very well :D ;D ;D ;D  8)
Posted by: Mitchie, Monday, September 24, 2007, 9:59am; Reply: 77
Wow, just ran across this thread this morning.  I had no idea other people shared my quirks.  I just figured I was 'special' because:

Turtlenecks feel like a noose around my neck.

Headlights really bother me.  I wear my sunglasses while driving in the morning while it's still dark.

The dentist's drill?  OMG, the vibration and especially the noise is deafening.  I usually wear earplugs to take it down a few notches.

Absolute quiet at night drives me crazy.  I've had a fan running every night forever.  If it's -10 degrees out, the fan is still going.  Plus it keeps the air from getting 'stuffy' which is a whole other issue.

The night quiet is funny considering other noises bother me.  Anything loud pretty much gets on my nerves.  And I have supersonic hearing.  I can hear a faucet dripping a mile away.

I also have great eye sensitivity to the sun.  Always am wearing my sunnies even if it's cloudy.  If I come out of a dark place (like a movie theater) into the sun I'm always good for a sneezing fit.(sunny)

The summer heat bothers me something awful.  I'm sooooo happy it's only going to be 60 here today.  That's like heaven!

And the whole not eating issue?  I mentioned on another thread that I enjoy doing a fast just because it take the meal planning, preparing, eating of out the picture.  I find it relaxing to not eat for a couple days.

So glad I read this thread.  Guess nonnies really are special in a totally weird, warped sort of way.
;D
Posted by: meribelle, Thursday, October 25, 2007, 10:03am; Reply: 78
Quoted from RedLilac
5.     Sights, sounds, and smells affect you like no other.  (Can you please chew your applesauce a little more quietly, I'm trying to watch this show!)

Could you elaborate on this one?  It sounds like you just quoted my Father; I NEVER could chew quietly enough for him.  Are our senses heightened because weíre nonnies?  I like bland food because tastes come across so strong.


I can hear people chew across the room.  It makes me crazy!  I thought I was the only one in the world who heard it.  And I love bland food.  Of course, I love seasoned food, too.

People do think I am crazy for eating this way.  I have given up trying to change them.  I just listen to their moans and complaints and I want to shake them and say "Wake Up."  But no one will listen.  Oh, well, I have done my part!
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, October 25, 2007, 2:29pm; Reply: 79
join the club of the misunderstood loners!! lol
Posted by: Curious, Friday, October 26, 2007, 11:56am; Reply: 80
This is a great threat. I was wondering whether there is a connection between 'highly sensitive people' (the book by Elaine Aron as mentioned before) and nonnies. Highly sensitive people are about 20 % and nonnies are about 20 % of the population.  ??)
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, October 26, 2007, 2:52pm; Reply: 81
I wonder what percentage of people with autism are nonnies.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, October 26, 2007, 6:00pm; Reply: 82
less then we think, Ribbit ;) ;D :D.....

but perhaps once upon a day we might grow out of those lovely habits ::) ;) ??) whooooo knows ??) :o :-/.....(whistle)(grin)(evil)(shhh)(think) ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D

that's not a form of allergic reaction, only some inconviniences ;) ;D :D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 3:41am; Reply: 83
sounds like a connection to me, curious! :)
Posted by: Melissa_J, Saturday, October 27, 2007, 4:41am; Reply: 84
Too funny.  I fit it pretty well too.  The sound of people eating bananas drives me bananas.

I'm not quite as sensitive to smells as I used to be, of course, I have my own house now and just don't let fragranced stuff in.  Very sensitive to sunlight and headlights also.  I also hate turtlenecks with a passion.  Buzzing flies, noise pollution at night, pollution in general, cigarette smoke, etc.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 1:49pm; Reply: 85
What gets to me is the sound of a baby crying.  Ah, hormones. ::)
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 1:56pm; Reply: 86
:-/ :o :P ;) ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 4:33pm; Reply: 87
So...what are some good things for nonnies?

a well-written book
funny movies
supportive friends
deep breathing
a non-cluttered living/working space
quiet music
100% cotton, wide-necked shirts
sun glasses
a haircut that doesn't tickle
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 7:35am; Reply: 88
"You might be a nonnie if...you wonder why clothing has to have the seam on the INSIDE!"

Wow, I can identify.  I'm bothered by the smells of soap and cologne/perfume, not having the seam on my sock lined up (tube socks are anathema for me).  I hate wool and people snoring.  I actually have to use earplugs to get a decent (at best) night of sleep if I can hear someone snoring.  And who EVER thought it was a good idea to make a clock that makes noise every 15 minutes, half hour, or hour???  My hair actually does grow straight out (you should see it if I let it grow out to 2 inches, I look like a Q-tip).  When I was a kid my mom took me to the optometrist because I was always squinting -- turns out that my eyes were/are sensitive to bright light (yes, I also despise those new halogen headlights)l; now I'm rarely outdoors without sunglasses, and I wear them while driving until it's too dark to wear them anymore.  Luckily, I have good teeth, but hearing a dentist's drill in the next room is enough to set my nerves on edge.  And I'm feeling all of you who hate the heat, cold, damp, and dry.  Fall is my favorite season, partly because of the colors, but mostly because the temperature is moderate and the summer humidity is gone but the winter dryness hasn't arrived yet!  Also, do any of you ever get feeling agitated, like you just want to jump out of your own skin, without any apparent reason?  I had one of those days last week.  I drove to see my brother, and it was like I could feel every crease, wrinkle, and seam in my clothes.

Fortunately, like most of you, this has gotten better since BTD, but it sure ain't cured!
Posted by: honeybee, Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 7:53am; Reply: 89
oh my i can add to these lists!

smells, most perfumes, coughs that are just too regular to ignore, damp or cold feet, cold temperatures and never being able to keep warm in cooler climes, televisions that are on when im not interested, dirty hair, misunderstandings, agitation, injustice... are the not so good.

But, there is a counter point of things that are soo good! music, sounds, colours, landscapes, clothing that 'fits right' - for want of a better description, fesh food, reading, sunbathing, swimming, drinking wine, moisturiser, pets...anyone?
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 3:41pm; Reply: 90
ahh the madness!!! and everyone considers us crazy!! LOL ;D
so much injustice! ;)
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 4:50pm; Reply: 91
Aw, Lola, we aren't mad, we are eccentric!
Posted by: shazamda, Thursday, November 22, 2007, 8:21am; Reply: 92
Quoted from Ribbit
So...what are some good things for nonnies?
a well-written book
funny movies
supportive friends
deep breathing
a non-cluttered living/working space
quiet music
100% cotton, wide-necked shirts
sun glasses
a haircut that doesn't tickle


Ah, Ribbit, you are so right!

What about personal conflict??  I canít handle drama.  :o    And I can't stand to think that I have hurt anyoneís feelings.  :'(   What about personal boundaries for Nonnies?  :-/  
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, November 22, 2007, 10:31am; Reply: 93
drive 55 ;) * well-centered* sounds better for me ;) ;D.....

@ Lola, I agree 100000 % zentig ;) :D.....

yiiikes...personal boundaries for the Royals...US ??) ! :o.....
faaar away with those ;)...getting stomach cramps only in thinking on it ;).....the moto here is: please don't touch and don't overwhelm me with your presence ;) ;D  :B(ok)(ok)(evil)
Posted by: Curious, Friday, November 23, 2007, 5:00am; Reply: 94
Quoted from shazamda


What about personal boundaries for Nonnies?  :-/  


It seems to come natural to lots of people, however, I think for nonnies it requires a conscious effort - at least it does for me, but I am getting better at it. 8)

Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, November 23, 2007, 4:52pm; Reply: 95
Ribbit...this is the very best ;) ;D " a haircut that doesn't tickle"....:o :o :o (clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(smarty)(woot)(dance)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 23, 2007, 6:59pm; Reply: 96
Quoted from Mitchie
Headlights really bother me.

Yep.  I'm sensitive to bright light.
Quoted from Mitchie
The summer heat bothers me something awful.

Yep.

Just a thought:  you may want to check with a dermatologist to see if s/he thinks you could have rosacea.  I have it and the combo of being sensitive to bright light and to summer heat just make me wonder if maybe you do, too.  Of course, there are only about a billion other reasons you could have those two quirks, including just that that is the way you happen to be wired, but I just do wonder...
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 23, 2007, 7:14pm; Reply: 97
Interesting about the sensitivities to sounds and smells, etc.  I have that in spades, babies.  My mom is always commenting that I notice sounds so much more than most people, and I can't tune them out.  In fact, there is this light on the outside of my house that comes on when the daylight dwindles and goes off in the morning (I never have figured that sucker out...but that's another story...I don't think it is solar-powered...anyway, I digress).  It has taken to making this loud "buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" the entire time it is on.  Now, perhaps a NORMAL person could just IGNORE this and sleep through it.  Just tune it out, Edna, I tell myself.  But NO!  Maddening!  So I have had to close my window (I'm in Florida and usually like to sleep with one of the bedroom windows open a little) just to put some sort of buffer between me and that...that...that SOUND!   :o  :-/ (shhh) (dead) (nerd).

I am also sensitive to smells but that could be a whole other, non-nonnie-related dealiwig to do with an iatrogenic nose sitch I have going on (don't ask/don't tell).

The sound sensitivity thing also is the flip side of a love of music...do you fellow nonnies have a deep love of music?  I mean, most everyone will say, when asked "oh yes, I love music", but I mean, do you LOVE music?  Because I LOVE it.  But on the flip side, I an so exquisitely sensitive to sound and music that I can't tune out any of same that I find to be obnoxious or, in the case of music, not good.  I can't stand when my co-workers have vapid radio stations on playing singers and/or songs that I can't STAND--AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!  Make it stop.  Paradoxically, I sometimes also can't stand if some GREAT music comes on when I'm at work because then I cannot concentrate on my work and I am compelled to go into a trance and listen to the music.  This thing they have me doing now of scanning SDRs in the mornings, which takes place in its own office, complete with radio and cassette player, is great because it is the type of work that is very systematic and sort of rote, so you don't need to think much, hence I have been blasting out everything from the Surfaris to the Indigo Girls to the Talking Heads.  But if I'm at my regular cubicle and trying to CONCENTRATE, I can't do so if something really bad or really good comes onto a co-worker's radio station and it is DISTRACTING.  I myself am a considerate pup and thus I do not listen to music in my cubicle...but the office where one scans?  As in drywall, closing door, the whole shooting match?  Oh yeah, babe!  Someone else brought the radio/tape unit in there, but I'm not averse to it at all--wu HUUUUUUU!

But if anything is going on outside my house, or even outside someone's window if I'm on the phone with that person, I am totally distracted.  I'll be talking to my mom, especially, because they are always doing loud landscape maintenance or SOMETHING at her apartment complex, plus there are always sirens coming because it is a senior apartment complex and there is always someone being rushed to the hospital or something.  I'm always like "Mom, what is that NOISE?"  "What noise?"  "That NOISE!  That NOISE, you don't hear that NOISE?!"  "Oh, that...yeah, they are doing something outside."

Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, November 24, 2007, 1:09am; Reply: 98
I've been grinning my way through the last page or so of this thread, oh, yeah, I must be a nonnie, alright! ::) But, as usual, a twisted one.
All my life til this year I have adored long turtlenecks, having a longish gooseneck myself that's always cold. Regular snoring, not so bad, but catchy irregular snoring that sounds like choking, forget it, I'm up all night. Chewing with the mouth open, keep me away from guns.  
But nails on chalkboard don't bother me at all. At all.
I think most reptiles are gorgeous, particularly love snapping turtles and box turtles.
Wool burns my skin like acid. How come I can eat sheep, but not wear them? That goes against the ol' waste-not-want-not of olden days. Is that cause I'm a nonnie and shouldn't even be here to complain about it?
I can hear a gnat fart, but I can't understand you in a crowd unless I can see your lips move to backup what I can hear.
Okay, I gotta go, thanks for the been-there-done-that entertainment, guys! ;D
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, November 24, 2007, 7:22am; Reply: 99
O'Suzelannchen bravooo (clap)(clap)(smarty)(clap)(woot)(funny)(funny)(funny) ;D ;D ;D :K)
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, November 24, 2007, 7:35pm; Reply: 100
OSuzanna, you made me smile with that gnat fart business!   ;D

Body odors on people can distract me so much that I can't even be in the same room with them.  And mouth/breath odor.  I can't ignore it when the smells are bad.  I have to fight to keep from throwing up!  Clutter in a house makes me so claustrophobic, but I'm not bothered by dust bunnies or littlecobwebs.  

Lables on the inside of clothing drive me bonkers  :o and seams on the insides of my socks have to be positioned so that I can't feel them at all when my shoes are on.

I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?   :K)
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, November 24, 2007, 7:38pm; Reply: 101
When I was a little girl, my mother would read me the story "The Princess and the Pea", about a queen who tested many young ladies to see who was a real princess.  The one who was chosen was a girl who could not sleep on a stack of mattresses because a tiny pea was at the bottom of the pile, and she felt it like she was sleeping on a big lumpy rock.

Nonnie princess.   8)
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, November 24, 2007, 9:37pm; Reply: 102
Victoria, that's why we became the *Royals* ;) ;D :D (angel)
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, November 24, 2007, 10:45pm; Reply: 103
Oh, I understand it all, now!   ;D
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Sunday, November 25, 2007, 5:09am; Reply: 104
As a nonnie, I feel a strange and almost irresistable attraction to the Canadian province of Nova Scotia and the Canadian maritime provinces; Iceland; Nunavut, Canada; and basically anywhere around the Northern Atlantic... except for Europe or the UK, for some reason.

Why?

(bunny)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 5:19am; Reply: 105
might have been the grounds where you used to dwell in a previous life! ;)
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 5:20am; Reply: 106
Oh, Ron!   ;D   :K)
Posted by: Curious, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 6:29am; Reply: 107
Ron, you might like the Australian outback!  8)
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Sunday, November 25, 2007, 12:35pm; Reply: 108
Lola,

You may be righter than you think.  Here are the results of a past-life website analysis that I got awhile back:

Your past life diagnosis:
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I don't know how you feel about it, but you were female in your last earthly incarnation.You were born somewhere in the territory of modern North Canada around the year 475. Your profession was that of a artist, magician or fortune teller.
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Your brief psychological profile in your past life:
Bohemian personality, mysterious, highly gifted, capable to understand ancient books. With a magician's abilities, you could have been a servant of dark forces.
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The lesson that your last past life brought to your present incarnation:
Your task is to learn determination and persistency. Youd should not allow to let misfortunes take influence on your strong will.
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Do you remember now?
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Sunday, November 25, 2007, 12:36pm; Reply: 109
Curious,

I doubt that seriously.  The Australian outback is a massive frying pan.  I hate the burning sun and heat.

Or were you being facetious?
Posted by: meribelle, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 12:48pm; Reply: 110
Quoted from OSuzanna

I can hear a gnat fart, but I can't understand you in a crowd unless I can see your lips move to backup what I can hear.
Okay, I gotta go, thanks for the been-there-done-that entertainment, guys! ;D


Oh, how funny... I am the same way.  I hear everything yet I hear nothing in a crowd.

I was reading this thread from the beginning and I read one that sounded like me.  And guess what?  It was me!!  

About noise: I get so confused when there are a lot of sounds in my head.  I like opera music and music in other languages because they don't enter into the conversations I am having with myself in my already overcrowded brain!  That is because I don't understand them, yet I can still appreciate the pretty music.

I love quiet, but I like a fan or something else with 'white noise' at night.

I have been away from the site for a while and it is good to be back.  This particular posting makes me feel not so alone.

Are other nonnie's "pack rats?"  I tend to keep things "just in case..."
Posted by: meribelle, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 12:57pm; Reply: 111
Oh and I hate turtle necks.  I fell trapped!  And I love the outside, the sunshine, the wind and nature,especially when I am not dressed up to go to the office.  

I have always loved fairy tales and refer to "The Princess and the Pea" frequently when I cannot get comfortable in m;y chair at work or when I do not sleep well at night.  I truly am a nonnie princess now!!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 5:18pm; Reply: 112
Ron, how about that?!!! ;)
Posted by: OSuzanna, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 7:51pm; Reply: 113
Quoted from meribelle

I was reading this thread from the beginning and I read one that sounded like me.  And guess what?  It was me!!  
(funny)(funny)(funny)

Are other nonnie's "pack rats?"  I tend to keep things "just in case..."


Oh, dear, I'm a many-interests artist, and always go back, sort of like doing a circuit, to types of art I've practiced previously.... You can't just get rid of expensive art supplies just 'cause you're not using them at the moment... ::) ;D
Also read alot, so you know how that ends up (whistle)
Posted by: OSuzanna, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 7:55pm; Reply: 114
Quoted from Victoria
OSuzanna, you made me smile with that gnat fart business!   ;D

Lables on the inside of clothing drive me bonkers  :o and seams on the insides of my socks have to be positioned so that I can't feel them at all when my shoes are on.

[Agreed.]

I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

[I always thought bedding should ventilate, too.]

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?   :K)


Posted by: Curious, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 10:43pm; Reply: 115
Quoted from 521
Curious,

I doubt that seriously.  The Australian outback is a massive frying pan.  I hate the burning sun and heat.

Or were you being facetious?

No, I meant it seriously, because it is so empty (I love it for this reason). You are right, it is a frying pan in summer, but it is cool in winter. In particular at night, the temperature can be freezing. I cycled in the outback a while ago and some mornings my waterbottles were frozen.

Posted by: TJ, Sunday, November 25, 2007, 11:16pm; Reply: 116
Quoted from Victoria
I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?   :K)


Wow, I thought I was the only person who did that!
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Monday, November 26, 2007, 12:34am; Reply: 117
Growing up in Florida as I did, when I was an infant my mother tells me that I used to hate being out in the heat... She says I would scream and cry.  But I always loved the colder weather... Autumn is my favorite season.

Another weird thing I did, was that I got this large-size GI Joe playset when I was about four and, for some odd reason, I used to love carrying around the hard plastic grey rhinoceros that came with it.  In fact, I used to sleep with the thing.  I mean, it wasn't soft at all.

Another thing I used to do, is put my pillow in the freezer at night, just to get it nice and cold.  Remember, this was Florida, and I hated the heat.  So I would get my pillows nice and cold, and then take them into the bed to sleep with.

Finally, I used to play with the corners of my pillows and my collars... I would take them and brush the tips of my fingers over them, because it felt good.  Over time, the corners would get dark with the oils from my fingertips.  Later on, I also learned to do this with pencils, and that's a habit I still have to this day.

Pretty weird, eh.
Posted by: Curious, Monday, November 26, 2007, 8:12am; Reply: 118
Quoted from 521
... is put my pillow in the freezer at night, just to get it nice and cold.  

Definitely no Australian outback for you, Ron.  ;)

Posted by: 1750 (Guest), Thursday, December 6, 2007, 6:12pm; Reply: 119
I received my test results that confirmed that I was a nonnie.  After reading through this thread I thought I would be a nonnie because I simply fit the mold.

Hate feeling closed in in any situation:
crowds
turtlenecks
seatbelt
I simply need free movement.  I think I was meant to be a nudist.

Perspiration
I perspire more than the average man.  It is worse now that I am fat, but even when I was skinny I dripped water.  Not just the arm pits.   I have had people ask me if it had been raining outside.  The sweat seems to have little to do with being hot although the heat makes it worse.  If I concentrate very hard water will cascade from my brow.

Feelings
Those familiar with Briggs-Myer and Jungian classification I am an INFJ.   An introverted, intuitive, feeling, judging or justice guy.  At times I feel that I am quite literally two personalities rolled into one.  I love talking to groups and crowds and hate being around groups and crowds at the same time.  I feel left out when not involved with something that is going on and put out when I am involved.  I often think of myself as a knight, sheep dog, type of guy and Lancelot is my hero.

Heat
I have a saying, "You can always get warm, but it is difficult to get cool."  Fall is my favorite time of year in Missouri.  40-50F is ideal.

Sensory
I am not sure if I fit the mold here or not.  I handle noise fairly well, but do insist that the TV is loud enough to drown out any other noise distractions.  At the same time I am quick to judge others being to loud when they watch TV.

Order
I need and crave for things to be logical and orderly but I am a lazy slob.  As the house gets cluttered my anxiety level grows until I loose control or clean the house.   I am quick to throw stuff away to keep 'order'.  Often I need to set my desk up perfectly before I can begin a new project, but can let the desk fall apart if I am in the middle of a project.

Sensitive
I will share my feelings (just read my post) with anyone who will listen and I have a huge empathy level for others.  I find it impossible to be angry with someone who has wronged me because I see their side of the story very clearly.  This leads me to avoid any and all conflict until I blow up or the people involved leave the state.  I work on the conflict thing all of the time.  What happens often times is that I become passive aggressive so that I can lie to myself about being that Lancelot character I mentioned above.  When I finally realize that I caused harm I go into a great self-destructive funk.  I have been accused of being rather feminine with my sensitivity.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 6, 2007, 6:16pm; Reply: 120
welcome aboard!!
;D
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 6, 2007, 6:29pm; Reply: 121
(dance)(clap)(dance)(clap)(smarty)(sunny)LOLLOL wow, a feminine male...great ......(clap)(clap)(clap)(wink)(woot)
Posted by: Shari, Saturday, March 22, 2008, 2:03am; Reply: 122
Newly confirmed nonnie here!  This is so cool!  I was so tired of feeling like the weird one in my family.  So nice not to be alone  :D

Personally I really don't like crowds, strong scents (especially perfume, afterhsave or cigarette smoke  >:(!), and disorder (even if I am a messy housekeeper most of the time).  Just about once a week I have to reorganize things back into order.  I was wondering why I didn't like turtle necks anymore.  I just wouldn't wear them so I stopped buying them and switched to bulky sweaters.

When I read the "Highly Sensitive Person" by Elaine Aron, I thought it sounded just like me.  I came to wonder, privately, if the population % of both nonnies and HSPs both being around 20% was not a coincidence.  I am one of the HSP types who seeks input, even thought I am alson easily overwhelmed by it.  Pre BTD I used to feel like the border between too much (overload) and too little (boredom) input was more like a knife edge.   Now at least I can sense trouble coming.  Even if I don't always avoid it like I should  ::)  sigh.

Pre BTD I was always too hot in any situation except an extremely cold winter day.  A year into BTD and I could not get warm enough.  Five years later and I seem to finally have evened out a bit.  Since I used to hate the heat, it is fun sometimes to hear other people complain about how it's too hot in the summer time, meanwhile I'm feeling "just right" on a warm day.  

Later!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, March 22, 2008, 2:48am; Reply: 123
Quoted Text
Pre BTD I used to feel like the border between too much (overload) and too little (boredom) input was more like a knife edge. Now at least I can sense trouble coming.

that s very profound!!
welcome to our club! ;)
Posted by: dawgmama, Saturday, March 22, 2008, 3:09am; Reply: 124
Hmm...no wrinkley sheets for me, or tags, or bunchy socks. It's a nonnie thing I guess :-/. This is often a characteristic too, of "difficult childern", perhaps they too, are nonnies. When I was 5, I got a heck of a spanking because I refused to wear a very itchy, lacy flower girl dress. Needless to say I tried on a "million" wedding dress' till I found one that did not itch! ;D

A too loud tv, or big crowds upset me. Nonnies are sensitive souls.
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, March 22, 2008, 3:23pm; Reply: 125
While I am still, comparatively speaking, a "sensitive soul", I am not as sensitive in the past couple of months that I have been feeling so well.  Getting rid of the gluten is not only healing my gut, it's thickening my skin!
Posted by: JJR, Thursday, March 27, 2008, 1:56am; Reply: 126
I am so interested to see if I am one.  I'm wating patiently on my test restults.
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, March 27, 2008, 2:40am; Reply: 127
Oh, goody.  We resurrected this thread!  I just read back over the last two pages and was nodding and chuckling to myself.  *happy sigh* I finally fit in somewhere.  People understand!  This is amazing!  I love you guys.  I really do.  As was mentioned on the previous page, about "difficult children" maybe being nonnies, I believe this may be true.  Looking at my AB nonnie daughter and seeing me as a child in her (not in any way tempermentally)....Like the other morning we were going through last year's summer clothes trying things on and I guess it was just the wrong day to do it.  Everything was "too big" or "too small" or "too tight" or "the tag scratches" or "it's wrinkly" or "the red is too bright."  You name it, it was a problem.  So I put all the clothes back in the box to try on a happier day, and I got her dressed in her regular clothes again.  But were her socks right?  Oh, no, the seam just wouldn't sit right on her toes.  We tried three different pairs of socks out of her drawer.  I finally told her just to go barefoot, but "the floor's too cold."  All this was done with many tears on her part, understand.  The only think keeping me from getting really upset at her was the fact that I remember good and well how sensitive I was as a child and how I couldn't concentrate at school because my tag would itch or my hair would tickle my ears and forehead or my sock elastic was too tight or too loose, or, even worse, uneven, and one sock would stay up and the other would scrunch down.  So my recollection of what it was like kept me from getting mad at her.  We tried on a happier day when she wasn't touchy and all was well.  
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, March 27, 2008, 8:36pm; Reply: 128
I agree, Ribbit.  It's just a relief to understand ourselves and others, and know that sometimes people are not just being difficult.  It's how we are wired!

Do any other nonnies besides myself have a difficult time sleeping if there is another person in the same bed?
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, March 28, 2008, 1:04pm; Reply: 129
It took me several months after we were married to be able to relax and have a good night's sleep (but by then I was pregnant, so I couldn't sleep anyway), because I hadn't ever shared a bed with anybody other than my sister!  I think I'm too "aware" physically.  It's like Please don't touch or bump me or breathe on me......Although I have no trouble snuggling up with my babies and sleeping with them all night.
Posted by: JJR, Friday, March 28, 2008, 4:24pm; Reply: 130
I think it's kind of normal.  When we were first married, we held each other all night.  Now it's all about getting sleep.  She came too close the last couple nights and I gave her a shove.  She said it's most comfortable to sleep inbetween the two pillow.  ????????
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 7:25pm; Reply: 131
Being in bed to cuddle is great!  But when I'm ready to sleep, that's a different matter.  I prefer to not have the distraction of another body.  Movements, noises, breathing . . all these things greatly disturb my sleep.

I don't know if it's a nonnie thing, or maybe because I mothered two children and learned to sleep lightly.  Whatever the cause, I only get refreshing sleep if I am completely undisturbed.
Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 9:31pm; Reply: 132
Often snoring (somebody else's) will ruin my sleep. For me the worst sleep-deprivation things are car alarms and barking dogs. And the tv down the hall when I'm trying to sleep if I have to get up early.
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, March 31, 2008, 1:15am; Reply: 133
Don't get me started on dogs.  Every house we've lived in since we've been married we've ended up having loud dogs right next door.  I have murdered many a dog in my heart.  They know when we're taking naps and they come out and yap or howl, and where are the owners?  At work all day, or at parties till late at night and the dogs just bark and bark and bark.  Grrrrrrrrr at them.  Throw them some chocolate or something.
Posted by: TJ, Monday, March 31, 2008, 2:15am; Reply: 134
My nonnie-ness shows up big in the sleep area too.  In my own room, in my own bed, with the thick, black curtains pulled, I sleep fine.  If there is a disturbing noise, I can turn on a fan to cover it, and that usually works.

Sleeping away from home is very frustrating.  At mom's house, they have three indoor cats (to which I have a mild allergy), and a night light I can see in the living room (where I'm usually "sleeping"), PLUS one of those awful clocks that chime.  I have to take it down from the wall and turn off the chime before I can even think about sleep.  Dad's house isn't much better: paper-thin curtains and industrial-strength outdoor lights shining right into the guest bedroom window.
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, March 31, 2008, 5:25pm; Reply: 135
Quoted from TJ
industrial-strength outdoor lights



*lol*  That reminds me of one of our apartments in Miami where we had the same problem.  Only the resident mocking bird thought it was day time all night long and he sat on this tiny pole that stuck out from the wall just above our bedroom window, and he'd sing for 8 hours straight.
Posted by: JJR, Monday, March 31, 2008, 10:43pm; Reply: 136
My Mom and StepDad have a clock like that in there living room and I slept overnight there once this year due to a snowstorm.  I think it woke me every half our.  The big hoopla on the hour and the one chime at the half.  They're and the clock was lucky I wasn't sleeping with a gun.

I still have no clue if I'm a nonnie though.  
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 2:42am; Reply: 137
ABNoWay, I'm betting you are!
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 1:59pm; Reply: 138
I bet my husband is too.  He gets unreasonably tense and angry if the children are too loud.  I gently remind him that if he's a nonnie, all our kids are too, and that's why we're all hyper-sensitive to everything.  It helps us be a little more patient with each other when we understand they're feeling what we're feeling.
Posted by: JJR, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, 12:19am; Reply: 139
Yeah, too much commotion for me gets me the same way.  >:(  I'm not really into big crowds either.  I usually feel kind of, chlostrophobic.  However it's spelled.  And lately, I totally feel like a hypochondriac, although that's more of a new thing.  I never did like being sick, but things usually passed quickly when I was younger.  No chronic stuff.

Anyways, my test has arrived but waiting on the results!!!!!!!
Posted by: angelighte, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 7:05am; Reply: 140
I am still trying to work out if Im a non-secretor or not but I was just thinking after reading some of the threads that I might be since;

When I first saw the word nonnie and you guys using it all over the place, for some reason the word "nonnie" really annoyed me + it still does.
I think cos I didn't know what it meant but Im investigating more for myself now I will get used to the word more and hopefully become friends with it.

I often felt isolated and different as a child.

I never had problems with eating food & loved it and always wanted more, until one day my dad told me to stop pigging out on chicken one night.

we always had wine at the table but I gave it up when I was 12 as I read that it was fattening.

Posted by: accidental_chef, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 7:14am; Reply: 141
Quoted from angelighte

we always had wine at the table but I gave it up when I was 12 as I read that it was fattening.


(funny)
Posted by: angelighte, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 8:11am; Reply: 142
AC did you just burst out into laughter?
hahaha
yeah I know it is pretty funny.
But since I grew up on wine - Im wondering whether thats where a part of my struggle with weight came from.
Posted by: accidental_chef, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 8:17am; Reply: 143
Quoted from angelighte
AC did you just burst out into laughter?
hahaha
yeah I know it is pretty funny.
But since I grew up on wine - Im wondering whether thats where a part of my struggle with weight came from.


I did Marie! Sorry, I thought it was a joke...talk about cultural differences huh?

Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 7:52pm; Reply: 144
I was talking about secreter status with my husband the other night and how we probably were all non-secreters.  My 5-year-old said, "I hope I'm a yes-secreter."  "Why is that?" I asked.  "Well, because I want to be able to....secrete....stuff."
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 3:53am; Reply: 145
I like certain 'white noise' & can't stand other noises like motors running....
I sleep better with talk on the radio than music. I like to hear others' conversations like on talk shows or even the news station.
When I was younger, I also was more irritated by tags, seams, etc. (I still cut the tags off clothing as I assume I am allergic to the material.)As my diet improved over the years, I am not as hyper in that sense & not as ticklish.

I like to sleep with another person(spouse!)but if he isn't there, I like that radio going(even when he is there-I'm glad he likes it also, but doubt he is as addicted as I am.).
I assume I'm a nonnie, & even tho nonnies have more problems, I would be disappointed to find I'm a secretor! The nonnie diet worked better for me. If I can get more diamonds, I'm sure the GTD would be better, too.
Mrs "T"   O+
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, June 7, 2008, 8:04am; Reply: 146
:o :o :o :o :o :o(bunny)(hehe)(hehe)(hehe)(wink)(yawn)(oh)

to give up alc. intake with 12 years... weew.....this is a very early time to do so!!!  ;) ;D ;D ;D
normally it's just the inverse time...you might get into contact with wine up from 15-16 even later and wine in itself isn't harming but the contrary but it depends of course about the mass(think)(smarty)(whistle)(whistle)
I grew up in South of France...here people drink red wine every day and no little amounts ::) ....but there people's health is normally at their very best and very little of heartattacs, nor whatsoever....
I think here lays the evidence of methylation and the body's capability for quicker detox .....(woot)
Posted by: shells, Sunday, June 8, 2008, 2:13am; Reply: 147
Ooooooh!!...so that's my problem!....not enough wine   ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: honeybee, Sunday, June 8, 2008, 2:35am; Reply: 148
Quoted from angelighte


When I first saw the word nonnie and you guys using it all over the place, for some reason the word "nonnie" really annoyed me + it still does.



LOL (joytears)
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 2:40pm; Reply: 149
Oh, I can sympathize. There are certain words & letters of the alphabet I don't like. But after time, we get used to them.
There's a college here, the U of Illinois, but the newer Chicago location. For years, they called it Chicago Circle.
Somehow, I didn't like that name. So, when I finally got used to it (20? years?), they started calling it UIC(Univ. Ill. at Chicago).
We all grumbled about the long political campaign, but at least the names Huckabee & Obama don't seem strange. I am sure that these people were judged by their names early on, but now they are household words. I hated my maiden name, but others who knew it don't think much about it. I'm sure they thought it was funny or ugly when they first heard it, but when one gets used to it, nobody cares.
So, in conclusion, I hope we all get used to the word "nonnie" like we probably did "newbie" & who knows what else. How about NS instead of nonnie?
Anyway, have a good day!!
Sea Salt & Light,
Mrs "T"   O+  
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 4:07pm; Reply: 150
hey Madl...we created a new word what's about non-sechi  ??) ;D ;D ;D :D(smarty)(whistle)
Posted by: alohascott, Sunday, June 15, 2008, 8:13pm; Reply: 151
Aloha
After reading the stuff here i am for sure i am non secretor.  I donít need the test.

I am a newbie here and i would just like to know the fastest way to get started and start the healing process. I am having all the symptoms of CFS which i think is due to mitochondrial malfunction. Mentally i have ADHD and severe anxiety.  I had a bunch of really bad things like death of loved ones and divorce and car crashes and business failure all happen at once and i have not recovered.   I fit the DSM IV criteria for PTSD aka post traumatic stress disorder.

Where can i get started to get the most benefit?

There are so many books, and i am not sure which one to read.

I would also like to know if i read
EAT RIGHT 4 YOUR TYPE, 2001.
Will it be much different from the newest books?
Any help or guidance will be appreciated.

Much Mahalo
Alohascott
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, June 15, 2008, 8:56pm; Reply: 152
Welcome to this wonderful board & the world of the BTD!
You are sure to get encouragement here. We care. I hope you are resting & getting light exercise to work throught your grief. You need to deal with it, not just forget.

I am sure I am a nonnie, too. I finally ordered the test, but need to get over a coughing problem to take it.
But sometimes, we just know what we are!!!!!
Aloha!
Mrs "T"   O+
Posted by: GillianR, Sunday, June 15, 2008, 9:41pm; Reply: 153
HI Scott and Welcome.

The biggest bang for the buck (imho) is to turn to the type A pages of either ER4YT or LR4YT and highlight all the beneficials that you love anyway. Go out and buy a whole bunch of those beneficials and start eating them.

Eat simple meals like "cod, carrots and peas"  or "brown rice sauteed in olive oil and garlic and onions". Make these favourites your staples for when you can't think of what to eat.

Now that you are munching on some fresh pineapple and drinking a lemonade made with honey and fresh lemons, you have time to read the books more in depth.

I found starting this way was easy and later I had enough energy to change other things.  

Later I found that cutting out wheat, milk and cheddar cheese completely got rid of my anxiety and a host of other problems. For me it was an overnight occurrence.

I started on the secretor diet, then I went to the non-secretor diet, now I am trying the GTD diet.

All the diets will help you in some regard because they all cut out additives and get you to simplify what you eat and you will learn to observe the effects the foods have on your body.

The bottom line is that only you know what will work for you . You just need to get in touch with that information that is already within you. The books are strong guidelines to get you doing that. The website is so you know you are not alone and that it is possible to improve every day.

Be kind and gentle with yourself.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, June 15, 2008, 10:09pm; Reply: 154
start here
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/1.htm
Blood Type A Basics
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeA_basic.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjMqnxSBF4
Posted by: alohascott, Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:15am; Reply: 155
thanks for the info, i will look into your suggestions

I was wondering are the benificial foods immediatly benificial or only benificial in the long term to prevent disease?
Posted by: Lola, Monday, June 16, 2008, 2:31pm; Reply: 156
beneficials act like medicine! ;)
Posted by: Heidi, Monday, June 16, 2008, 2:47pm; Reply: 157
Quoted from alohascott
Aloha
After reading the stuff here i am for sure i am non secretor.  I donít need the test.


You really can't know your secretor status without the test. People have guessed wrong both ways (me included  :B). You may have guessed correctly, or you may not have ;)

I'd start with Live Right 4 Your Type. It has everything you need to know. Double check the food lists with typebase http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm and you're set.

And as Gillian said, adding in as many bennies as you can is the way to go.



Posted by: Vista, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 5:40pm; Reply: 158
Hello everybody, I have heard that there might be a correlation between being RH-negative and being secretor negative (non-secretor).

Does anyone know anything about that? Also I've read about green eyes and secretor status that there might be some correlation.

I have fibromyalgia (autoimmune disease) and green eyes, I am RH-negative and Le(a-b-) from blood test but do not know secretor status.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 5:51pm; Reply: 159
You can help the other members of the forum help you by choosing a blood type shield to display beneath your name.

how to
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/

Welcome!

Quoted Text
a correlation between being RH-negative and being secretor negative (non-secretor).

not necessarily, I as opposed to you am an RH positive yet a Lewis double negative like you, and we generally are considered non secretors.

doing the spit test will definitely point you to either a secretor or a non secretor status....

this lectin free lifestyle change will help you with your issues....
here are a few interesting links
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED063S
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075206948

http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=90479

http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Lewis_Blood_Group
Posted by: Vista, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:13pm; Reply: 160
I am new to this so I did not know how to display the shield. I will get tested for secretor status but I  wonder if theres anything that might indicate secretor status.
Posted by: Vista, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:18pm; Reply: 161
I have read a lot about Blood Type, Secretor and Lewis and have the book Eat Right For Your Blood Type. Since I was tested Le(a-b-) for Lewis I cannot determine yet what to choose from the diet.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:27pm; Reply: 162
choose the non secretor guidelines for starts
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype2.htm
have you read LRFYT, that s where Dr D first mentions the non secretor issue.
Posted by: Vista, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:37pm; Reply: 163
No, I did not know about newer books about this until recently. I haven't had fibromyalgia either before, became sick year 2001. Now after searching for correlations between blood groups I became interested in this again and have read some about secretor status and some suspectibility to get certain diseases. I then took Lewis blood test wich came out Le(a-b-). Some things about autoimmune disease, I have diagnosed fibromyalgia and recurrant urine tract infections is something I think I can recognise from the stuff I have read about being a non-secretor. But then I also read about having green eyes means being a secretor.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:44pm; Reply: 164
Quoted Text
I also read about having green eyes means being a secretor.


not necessarily either! ;)
I also have green eyes....

glad you found your way to your BT shield..... ;D
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:46pm; Reply: 165
yep..yep..yep...here I've to second missi Lola....Lewis types (a-b-)should take the coice of the non-secretor diet....(best for their bt-types )... ;)
Don't forget the psychosomatic side of diseases...as well... :-/
wish you all the best from the bottom of my heart.....

greetings outta Switzerland....(smile)...with blue-green eyes but being  an aproved nonnie ... ;) :P ;D ;D
Posted by: Vista, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:49pm; Reply: 166
Do you all "nonnies" know that being a non-secretor also means being protected from most common strings of noroviruses, do not know what you call it in english but in Sweden it is called "winter vomiting disease".
Posted by: Vista, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:56pm; Reply: 167
I have also blue-green light eyes, Medium blonde hair. I took a Lewis test from my blood central, I've been a blood donor but now I cannot give blood because of fibromyalgia and eating sleeping pills. Is there anyone else that have fibromyalgia who know their secretor status (or Lewis) or are anyone with non-secretor status having certain health problems?
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 8:47pm; Reply: 168
Quoted Text
are anyone with non-secretor status having certain health problems?


yes, I repeat, a low lectin diet will help you deal with your issues.
you have come to the right place!

a high percentage of Dr D s patients are non secretors
Posted by: kauaian, Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 7:48pm; Reply: 169
[quote=3510]Aloha
After reading the stuff here i am for sure i am non secretor.  I donít need the test.

I am a newbie here and i would just like to know the fastest way to get started and start the healing process. I am having all the symptoms of CFS which i think is due to mitochondrial malfunction. Mentally i have ADHD and severe anxiety.  I had a bunch of really bad things like death of loved ones and divorce and car crashes and business failure all happen at once and i have not recovered.   I fit the DSM IV criteria for PTSD aka post traumatic stress disorder.

Where can i get started to get the most benefit?

There are so many books, and i am not sure which one to read.


Hi Scott,
I'm so excited to see a fellow Hawaiian.  Welcome !  I'm pretty new to the forum too even though I started the diet 1 year ago.  I used to see someone from Maui & tried to talk w/ her.  My suggestion would be to take the GTD/BTD survey, click on the program tab & select which diet is best for you.  I started w/ eliminating the avoids first because of my health issues I suspected that food was triggering my symptoms.

Aloha!





Posted by: kauaian, Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 7:51pm; Reply: 170
Quoted from Alia Vo
These ponderings be applied to our secretor community, as well.

Alia


I 2nd that !  That described me to the T.
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, March 26, 2009, 3:27pm; Reply: 171
Elizabeth insists on wearing her socks turned inside out so the seam doesn't touch her toes.  Ya think she's a NONNIE?(whistle)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, March 26, 2009, 3:36pm; Reply: 172
plus, it s good luck!!! ;)
Posted by: Vista, Friday, March 27, 2009, 7:08pm; Reply: 173
Hello all you non-secretors, this is something for you:

http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/reprint/45/8/2720.pdf

You are protected against the most common strings of noroviruses. :)
Posted by: medavida, Friday, March 27, 2009, 8:43pm; Reply: 174
Vista,
   NŚgon annan frŚn Sverige, va kul:)
I don't know my secretor status yet, but I am guessing I am a nonnie, nor do I know my lewis status...is it easy to get tested for lewis in Sweden?  
  I also have fybromyalgia.  Gluten intolerance, eczeme....
Posted by: Vista, Friday, March 27, 2009, 8:55pm; Reply: 175
Hej/hello, medavida   :). Are you or have you been a blood donor. Then you can go to your blood central and ask them to print out all your data they have from you as a donor for free. Then if you're lucky they may have done a Lewis phenotype test on you. They usually don't do that on every blood donor but sometimes they do, in my family they did that on my father because some recipeint of his blood needed a Lewis phenotype to be done they explained to us. You can however find out if you are A1 or A2 for instance and if you are Rh-positive or negative. Otherwise if they haven't typed you for Lewis you can do a so called private "blodgruppsbestšmning" including Lewis. You have to pay for that though. I payed 590 SEK for mine.
Posted by: kauaian, Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:14pm; Reply: 176
Hi Vista,
I read a book about Fibro by Chantal Cabrera that was very helpful because she is a Dr + she also had fibro.  I say HAD because she now feels she is cured.  She lives in Canada & did it by life style change, diet, herbs & supplements. She also happens to live in Canada.
Posted by: NassMum, Saturday, April 4, 2009, 2:22am; Reply: 177
Hello all,
Very new to the forums (first post) have been doing the BTD for about 3 months, and feel fantastic. I didn't have any major issues to start with, except for bloating, but that left me within days of starting, and have lost about 5kgs.

Oh my! I have not had my secretor test done, but if thread is anything to go by, I am DEFINITELY a nonnie! I never realized how many of these weird quirks I had.

I cannot sleep if there is any noise (tap dripping, snoring, persistent coughing) yet I cannot sleep if there is deafening silence either! I keep my tv set to timer when I go to sleep on a low droning volume for about 30min, which is usually enough time for me to drift off. But God forbid if something wakes me up after I am asleep. My husband drifts off anywhere, anytime, anyhow, mostly on the couch, whenever he stirs he gets up and comes to bed, 99% of the time waking me up in the process! Ahhhh!  >:(  One son sleeps like his father, the other like me (poor soul)

My family are all able to have conversations over eachother while the TV blares next to us, I have to turn it off to understand anything thats going on. I cannot read a book in the living room, too much noise, have to read in peace and quiet.
With all this noise sensitivity, I don't know how I have survived working in a noisy hair salon for 20 years! (I had to laugh about the hair tickling peoples faces, try getting cut hair all over your body eeeekkkk  :o )

My teeth are fine though? Not one filling  ;D

I sooo distinctly remember as a child, complaining of my clothes itching (wool, lace, tags) and I still have to cut my tags off.

Have always been colder than the others around me (hands and feet especially) but that seems to have gotten better (mind you I still have winter to go LOL)

Headlights - yes, I wear the sunglasses till dark too.  8)

One question, Does anyone else have restless leg syndrome? It drives me CRAZZZZY!!!  :o
Posted by: Ribbit, Saturday, April 4, 2009, 3:03am; Reply: 178
Try some calcium/magnesium before bed, NassMum.  And welcome to the forums!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 4, 2009, 6:25am; Reply: 179
here s some fun reading for you! :)
http://www.google.com/custom?q=restless+leg&sa=Search+The+Site&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3A4452213b291e6613%3B&domains=dadamo.com&sitesearch=dadamo.com
Posted by: NassMum, Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 9:39am; Reply: 180
Secreter test results back, I AM a Nonnie!!!  ;D
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 12:38pm; Reply: 181
Good to know!
Posted by: Ffantazsia, Sunday, June 28, 2009, 7:19am; Reply: 182
Quoted from angelighte
..., for some reason the word "nonnie" really annoyed me + it still does.
I think cos I didn't know what it meant but Im investigating more for myself now I will get used to the word more and hopefully become friends with it.

I often felt isolated and different as a child.



haha.... me too (on both)

I think the word is just (oh I can't think of a proper neutral word for it): lame, silly (all the other fitting words sound too harsh)

You don't have to be freinds with it; you can just use something else: NON, NBTS, N-Sec, etc.  : )
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, June 28, 2009, 12:44pm; Reply: 183
I felt the same way about the word nonnie when I first joined the forums.  I don't use the word in my daily speech--I say non-secretor.  But it takes less time to type nonnie, so I use it here. :)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, June 28, 2009, 1:40pm; Reply: 184
I have been noticing how many of my patients have blue eyes ( I am a nurse).
They sometimes not always have multiple health issues, I often don't have room on my  history paper for all the allergies and surgeries, they have had.
An association exists between blue eyes and non-secretor, so many are but not all ( like one of those associations on the SAT)

I think 'Nonnie" in my head  as I take the history and of course smile to myself.
Even though I am not one of you:
I am watching out for you guys. ;)

Maybe I could be an honorary memeber ;D
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, June 28, 2009, 5:09pm; Reply: 185
by all means! ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, June 28, 2009, 6:45pm; Reply: 186
;D ;D ;D what's about being a honourable member ??) ;) :D ;D....you are more than welcomed in our royal club privť....(cool)(funny)(hehe)(dance)
Posted by: Plucky, Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:34pm; Reply: 187
It's so much nicer to be thought of as royalty, as opposed to the outcast, overly-sensitive cukoo  :)
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:32am; Reply: 188
Princess and the Pea.....  ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, August 23, 2009, 11:37am; Reply: 189
G'day!  I'm a suspected nonnie and really love finding out I'm not the only hypersensitive one!

The term Nonnie doesn't bother me because it sounds more friendly than the medical non-secretor.  The word secrete doesn't have such a good connotation.  Most body secretions are gross.  So I would be proud to be a nonnie.  Sounds like you're not like everyone else which is true.

You suspect you're a nonnie when (tried to highlight some advantages):

Your hearing is so good that you can hear people talking about you in the next room or next building even.  People should go far away or just say nice things!!  
BONUS - You can hear mosquitos and judge where they are.  Not so good if they keep you awake at night though.

You tuck your feet out of the bed in summer because you don't like the to have your feet constricted.  Shoe shopping is a major chore and not the pleasure that apparently most women enjoy!  
BONUS - you can feel when the mosquito starts to bite you and send it to kingdom come.

Everything is so bright sometimes that you never leave the house without sunglasses (just in case you can't get home until daylight even!)  BONUS - The optometrist notices no damaged retina, you also have less wrinkles from squinting.  You can spot mosquitos and zap them quickly.  

You hate the feeling of anything getting under your fingernails.  Have trouble gardening because of it.  Maybe it's a defence mechanism because you can't repel germs as much?  Can't handle dirty hands.  BONUS: you're hands are clean to apply salve to mozzie bites.

Hypersensitive in every sense, you can cook without looking at the food and tell when dinner is ready by the smell.  Very fussy about food, sometimes difficult to dine out.
BONUS - you are a good cook but you end up doing all the baking for everyone!

My baby girl got bitten by mozzies yesterday and I'm not happy with them right now as you can see.
-----------------

Somewhere I read on here that someone as a kid used to make points on the satin lining of a blanket and rub it on the top of their fingertips because it feels nice.  I thought I invented that!!!  




Posted by: Gale D., Sunday, August 23, 2009, 6:36pm; Reply: 190
Yep, I think I am a Nonnie ...
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:42am; Reply: 191
Ghee Whiz... I see myselve ;) ;D ...thanx for sharing....(hehe)(hehe)(hehe)(clap)(smarty)(sunny) btw...that'swhy I stopped bakings ;) :D....
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, September 6, 2009, 3:17am; Reply: 192
Ha ha! Thanks Tomatilla !  ;)

Baking is too tempting, sugar sugar!  :P  I love doing it.  Will investigate using fruit juice instead of sugar and non-wheat flours and making bread.  Will be interesting.

Maybe people won't want to eat them till I iron the recipees out.  More for me! (shrug)(bunny)(wink)(dance)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, September 6, 2009, 7:33am; Reply: 193
until I've got it that it's da carbs who makes me fat instantly...so I stopped even to bake my own spelt bread I used to do ... :'( :'( :'(....
no fun to be a nonnie at this side ... :-/ :P....but how fine to go for the animal proteins & veggies ;) ;D....(dance)(ok)(smarty)(sunny)
found out a super source of chevapcicci made of lamb&turkey...wow soooo
yummy....(drool)(drool)with loads of garlic,onions red bell peppers .... ;D ;D ;D wanna come and try ??)  ;) :D(wiseman)

in lr4yt...red bell peppers are ok for A2B nonnies!!!! yyyeeehhhaaa... my preferest veg. 8)
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, September 6, 2009, 2:53pm; Reply: 194
Ghee W., I got a kick out of reading your post.  My ankles got chewed up last night while I was eating dinner.  Grrrr, mosquitoes.  At least I heard the one in the bedroom last night and ended its miserable little life before it had a chance to suck anybody's blood.

Can you get frozen juice concentrate in Aus?  I use pineapple or apple juice concentrate sometimes in my baking instead of honey or agave, which is expensive.  One or two Tbsp. of concentrate and you've got the job done.
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, September 7, 2009, 2:38am; Reply: 195
Thanks Ribbit.  Congratulations on your beautiful baby, what a face! (angel)(dance)(woot)

Mozzies are the bane of my existance!  We have no flyscreens.  Our neighbour collects water in a wheelbarrow (water shortage) so they breed in there.  To open a window or not to open a window, that is the question!

Thanks for the great idea!  (clap) Good economical option too.  I know you can get orange juice concentrate here not sure of apple.  Will find out.  I've got a one-page list of explorer foods to take to the supermarket with me now.  Guess I'll be in there for a while! It's all fun. (happy)

Do you know the blood type of your new bub yet?  
Sorry so offtopic.
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:56am; Reply: 196
Quoted from Symbi

Do you know the blood type of your new bub yet?  
Sorry so offtopic.


Another A!
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:30pm; Reply: 197
btw..to the other statements above..about fibromyalgia.. would be worthful to read or listen to Dr. John Sarno's statements... ;) ;D(whistle)(goofy)(clap)(ok)(dance)(funny)
Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, September 10, 2009, 1:38am; Reply: 198
You might be a nonnie if:

The phrase: "Treat other people how you want to be treated" does not apply.

Any physical activity causes you to sweat.  I was given the nickname of "Sweat Monster"
back in the day when I played basketball when it was shirts vs skins. No one wanted to post up on me or face getting slimed.

You have to smell food or beverages before you eat or drink it.

The glass is neither half full or half empty.  The glass is just too big or too small.

You check the temprature of soups / pies etc.. with your pinkie finger.


I didn't think any of what I do was odd, but my wife and others....  ::)

Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, September 11, 2009, 7:11am; Reply: 199
;D ;D ;D(clap)(ok)(dance)(evil)(hehe)(sunny)sooo funny thanx for sharing T M ...... :D ;D
Posted by: Tom Martens, Friday, September 11, 2009, 7:34am; Reply: 200
You also might be a Nonnie if when inquiring about a product in person or on the phone you get the response:

"no one has ever asked (me) that before"  or "I've never been asked that before and I've been here for 10 (or more) years"
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:10pm; Reply: 201
;D  True, Tom.  I had a little something to say to the ADT people who wouldn't quit calling---she sat in shocked silence while I tried hard not to laugh--I can guarantee she'd never been told that before.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:36pm; Reply: 202
;D ;D ;D ;D that's what happened last week;  first time I :B :o :-/ ;) ;D ;D was able to tell somebody to shut up .... ;D ;D ;D I felt soooo
released.....(ok)(dance)(goofy)(blush)(dizzy)(blush)(woot)ffftttt....
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, September 14, 2009, 2:44am; Reply: 203
Quoted from Ribbit


Another A!


Give me an A! Yeah for A!  (sunny)(clap)(dance)

Amazing you havent had an O type (though maybe you wouldn't want to, would make mealtime more complicated).
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, September 14, 2009, 2:49pm; Reply: 204
Theoretically we could, but here's a thought:  DH says type O is actually an A mutation.  With the both of us being on the GenoType Diet, it could be that since we've both reset our genes, that mutation won't occur.  I don't know, and I'm going way out on a limb here to even suggest that, but it's an interesting thought nonetheless.
Posted by: Kumar, Friday, October 9, 2009, 4:15am; Reply: 205
Hi nonnies!

After going through this thread and other related to nonnies, I have put nonnie characteristics in one page for easy reference. I have played with the wordings and language whereever I felt a need, but in some places the wordings are yours. So here it is:

Nonnie characteristics
Prevalence of certain health problems: 80% of "complex" patients - hard to diagnose properly and slow to cure. Increased susceptibility to bad intestinal bacteria, dental cavities, candida type infections, ulcer-causing bacteria, respiratory virus infections, and recurrent urinary tract infections (55-60% develop kidney scarring even with the regular use of antibiotics for UTIs). Higher incidence of autoimmune diseases including ankylosing spondylitis, reactive arthritis, psoriatic arthropathy, Sjogren's syndrome, multiple sclerosis, and Graves' disease (a common form of hyperthyroidism). More risk of inflamatory bowel problem, generalized inflammation, fibromyalgia (accounting for 80% of sufferers, regardless of blood type), syndrome X or insulin resistance and diabetes (which can cause impairment of triglyceride conversion, resulting in a lowered metabolic rate and edema). Higher rate of blood clotting, and alcoholic tendency among drinkers!

Hypersensitivities to sights, sounds, smells, tastes, and touch: it is either too hot or too cold; all shoes are too tight; waistbands itch; the hair tickles the face; the insides of the cheeks itch; seams on the insides of the socks have to be positioned so that they can't feel them at all when the shoes are on. Either hear sound too loudly or don't hear it at all; quick to judge others being too loud when they watch TV. Body odors (mouth and breathe too) on people can distract so much that they can't even be in the same room with them. Hate feeling closed in any situation: crowds, turtlenecks, and seatbelt; think they are meant to be a nudist.

Hair-trigger perspiration: perspire more than the average person (worse if fat, but even when skinny drip water from not just the arm pits). The sweat, though the heat makes it worse, has little to do with being hot.  Water cascades from the brow when concentrating very hard; any physical activity causes sweat.
  
Oversensitivity and caution about food and life: Before a wrong food even enters the mouth, are already looking for a bathroom saying, "I knew I shouldn't have eaten that." Smell food or beverages before eating or drinking it. The glass is neither half full nor half empty.  The glass is just too big or too small. Check the temprature of soups/pies, with the pinkie finger. Crave for salt; prefer more salt than the others. Foods that others consider wonderful look more like rat poison on a silver platter.  Standard mantra at all outings, festivities and gatherings involving food (just to get people off the back) is "Oh, I'm allergic to that..."

Craving for logicality and orderliness: as the house gets cluttered the anxiety level grows until they loose control or clean the house; are quick to throw stuff away to keep 'order'. Often need to set the desk up perfectly before begining a new project, but can let the desk fall apart in the middle of a project. Have to make bed before getting in it; donít make the bed in the morning, because they like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed; before going to bed, make everything lined up and smooth with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.

Personality type: an introvert, intuitive, feeler, and judger (INFJ). Share feelings with anyone who listens, and has a huge empathy level for others.  Find it impossible to be angry with someone who has wronged as they tend to see their side of the story very clearly.  This leads to avoid any and all conflict until they blow up or the people involved leave the state.  At times feel that they are literally two personalities rolled into one.  Love talking to groups and crowds and hate being around groups and crowds at the same time. Too sensitive to the words people say (what did they mean, and what could they have meant?).
Posted by: Mohairandsilk, Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:22am; Reply: 206
:D Hi every body !

Thanks Kumar for this summary.
Tomatilla just suggested I am a nonnie (other thread) so I investigate.

I think I am more than 50% compliant with the description (my apparent disorder is highly ordered  ;D).  

I'll read other items in this forum  :D
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:51am; Reply: 207
;D :D ;D :D :K) welcome "newbie" ;)  ;D ;D ;D(clap)(smarty)(ok)(dance)(hehe)(woot)(funny)....


Kumar, well designed... I am swifting between intj/p...so far  :o :o :B :P ;D ;D...

my desk never is orderly, allways plain and full of papers  :-/ :B ;D
the chaos in and outdoored ;) ;D...but I love it... and my motto is:
a genius will everytime find his/her papers or gadgets needed at every moment ;) :D...(think)(dizzy)(whistle).... most of the times I do ;)  ;D
Posted by: Kumar, Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:20am; Reply: 208
Yea Tomatilla. When it comes to desk, I often do have similar stuff but I occasionally keep them in order to give others the impression that I am not that careless.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:34am; Reply: 209
;D ;D ;D Kumar, it doesn't bothers me what others are thinking about me ;) ;D :D....so what ....(smarty)(smile)(shrug)(clown)(funny).....
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:55am; Reply: 210
I am a secretor,  but my desk and tables are invaded by papers !
Papers for me and my father are a methastatic disorder... I try to be able to find what I need and I succeed the most of times LOL, but when i have to put in order in a hurry, I'd whish to be more ordered !  I am super clean, at least not an OCD order too in my spaces !
Posted by: Kumar, Saturday, October 10, 2009, 10:00am; Reply: 211
Every time I did the personality inventory, I was always ISTP. Even the friends that I have tested in the past did not change the type over the years (though some changes in scores could be observed.) Now I tried an online version the other day, it put me as INTJ! (the type they call a guardian). I need to re-do it to confirm whether I have really changed over time. (The online version was different from the one I have been using since the 80's.)
Posted by: Ribbit, Saturday, October 10, 2009, 12:26pm; Reply: 212
*Cue Isa's enterance*

Isa will say we flip between P and J.  And that an Introvert often outwardly shows the opposite of what we really are.  
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, October 15, 2009, 6:00am; Reply: 213
this is written and fixed in the book of B-M. *gifts differings * ;) this isn't from my glorious me.... ;D ;D ;D

and sorry intj's as all NT's are rationals...not guardians, Kumar... ;) ;D(smarty)(dance)(ok)

artisans are sp's and the holy guardians are the sj's....sorry but this clarification I do feel as a *must* ;) :P ;D ;D ;D


                        (whistle)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 9:11am; Reply: 214
Kumar

Thanks for the brilliant summary.  Having just discovered that both my partner and I are nonnies, it's really useful to see what others have input to describe our interesting individuality  ;).

Can relate to about 90% of it I reckon  :o!

I'm an ENFJ (used to be ENFP the last time I did the MBTI many moons ago).

AP  :D
Posted by: Kumar, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 10:38am; Reply: 215
Andy Pandy (Munchkin76),

Welcome! The summary I prepared is based on the several individual contributions by nonnies and others. Some of the criteria (in the summary) could be much weightier than the others though. For example, frequent infections of throat, gut, urinary tract by fungus (candida) or bacteria could be more reliable single indicator than other criteria (which might sometimes overlap with non-nonnies too!

And Tomatilla, I think you are right on the personality naming. I must have forgotten the exact type, as I still find it difficult to own it. I am looking for an old version of the test and judge if I have really changed over time. Thanks for the observation.
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 10:52am; Reply: 216
Quoted from Amazone I.
;D :D ;D :D :K) welcome "newbie" ;)  ;D ;D ;D(clap)(smarty)(ok)(dance)(hehe)(woot)(funny)....Kumar, well designed... I am swifting between intj/p...so far  :o :o :B :P ;D ;D...my desk never is orderly, allways plain and full of papers  :-/ :B ;D
the chaos in and outdoored ;) ;D...but I love it... and my motto is:
a genius will everytime find his/her papers or gadgets needed at every moment ;) :D...(think)(dizzy)(whistle).... most of the times I do ;)  ;D
I am thinking this sounds more like my husband ;) ::) :D :o Although I do share some of these traits ;) Am fascinated to find this out... :) Great job Kumar (clap)
Posted by: Kumar, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 11:18am; Reply: 217
Welcome and go ahead Possum. The personality stuff tells about us much more than we usually think it does. A Russian social scientist discovered one significant dimension of temperament. He calls them "persons with strong nervous system" and "persons with weak nervous system". The "strong" ones are often disorganized, do excellent on real exams or tests, but do poorly on trials, and their hand writing is often poor (difficult for many to understand). The "weak" ones are well organized, have good handwriting, do excellent on trials but do poorly on the real exams and tests! And so on. So who knows you have strong husbands! (By the way, I too fall on this strong category.)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 12:16pm; Reply: 218
Tomatilla you crack me up  ;D!

Kumar, I definitely relate to the neverending stream of throat/ear infections!  I too fall into the Strong catagory.

Poss - you and your husband could be nonnies too!  Hope you get your test mischief managed soon!

AP  :D
Posted by: Kumar, Friday, October 16, 2009, 11:15am; Reply: 219
AP,

Welcome to the world of "strong nervous system" types. But it does not mean that we are really less nervous when the situation demands. We could be very timid by nature (despite being the strong type)!
Posted by: Munchkin76, Friday, October 16, 2009, 11:34am; Reply: 220
Kumar

Thanks for the warm welcome!!

Indeed, despite being more towards the extroverted side ordinarily (ENFJ) with a stong nervous disposition, I can still be quite timid at time - depends on the circumstances.

So, Kumar have you had your secretor test done?  Are you a nonnie too!

AP  :D
Posted by: Kumar, Friday, October 16, 2009, 11:50am; Reply: 221
Well I have not done it yet and I will do it only when I am in a tour of some countries where they have this test. Or I will wait till the time India has this test. For the time being, I have assumed to be no nonnie but who knows?
Posted by: kayzee, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 2:03pm; Reply: 222
Thank you so much for this! I'm fairly new to BTD/GTD (totally new to the forum!), just ordered my secretor test, and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. But from what I've read I suspected I might be a nonnie, and the summary above has me 95% sure.

So I'm happy to know, and off to revise my list of foods yet again...  :B
Posted by: Tom Martens, Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:01am; Reply: 223
Ok, you might be a nonnie if you buy a pair of jeans that are the right length when you are standing, but 3 or 4 inches short when you sit down.  That darn upper / lower leg thing :( :(
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:32am; Reply: 224
(dizzy)(dizzy)(eek)oooh ooooooh :P ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: geminisue, Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:18pm; Reply: 225
Thank You Kumar Your described my personality to a tee and I'm going to share it with a man friend of mine and maybe he will understand me better. lol
Posted by: Tom Martens, Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:04am; Reply: 226
You might be a Nonnie when: You are sitting upright in a computer type chair that can somewhat recline. Someone comes up behind you to talk or look at the computer screen with you and rests their hand on the backrest.  Not only can you can feel it, it is very physically annoying!
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:17am; Reply: 227
Quoted from Tom Martens
Ok, you might be a nonnie if you buy a pair of jeans that are the right length when you are standing, but 3 or 4 inches short when you sit down.  That darn upper / lower leg thing :( :(

I never ever thought of that!!! ??) Always thought Oh I mustn't have measured right when I hemmed them ::) ;)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Sunday, January 31, 2010, 8:58am; Reply: 228
Quoted from Tom Martens
You might be a Nonnie when: You are sitting upright in a computer type chair that can somewhat recline. Someone comes up behind you to talk or look at the computer screen with you and rests their hand on the backrest.  Not only can you can feel it, it is very physically annoying!


Goodness me, that's me through and through!  Just thinking about it makes me shiver in irritation!

Well spotted Tom!

Andy
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, January 31, 2010, 3:51pm; Reply: 229
Yes, about 8 pages ago we decided that the story of the Princess and the Pea really wasn't very funny.

I'm beginning to wonder if my 4 1/2 year old isn't a nonnie.  He's always pulling at the neck of his shirt.  They're all stretched out because he's always yanking at them saying they're too tight.  They're not even turtlenecks (which, oddly enough, he will wear sometimes).  He pulls at t-shirts and everything else too.
Posted by: Plucky, Monday, February 1, 2010, 2:11am; Reply: 230
I bet it was a nonnie who got the idea to print the tags on the insides of t-shirt necks instead of sewing them in.
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, February 1, 2010, 7:05pm; Reply: 231
I bet so too. ;)

I think I figured out what's up with DS's shirt-pulling.  Not to change the subject here, but since I mentioned it here, I may as well say what I think.  The last few days he's been saying he was having trouble breathing and really yanking on his shirt neck.  I tried to sound nonchalant to him, but I began to wonder if he's got asthma too.  Then today we were cleaning up in his bedroom and I happened to notice some black spots on the wall next to his bookshelf.  I pulled the bookshelf away from the wall and behind it is COVERED with mold.  I don't know where it came from!  I thought maybe a cup of water got spilled or something, but there's no cup or other indication of water having been there.  On the other side of that wall is the chimney, so I'm wondering if the chimney is allowing water to soak through to the inside.  DH has got a big job on his hands when he gets home.  We may have to cut out a section of the wall and replace it.  Until then, I've shut the bedroom door and told them to stay out.
Posted by: Munchkin76, Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 11:13am; Reply: 232
Wise move shutting the room off Leanne!

I have asthma and fungal spores are the worst for creating breathing problems with me.  Well spotted and I hope your DS is okay once the mould mischief is managed!

Andy  :)
Posted by: mrstwobears, Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:44am; Reply: 233
On the basis of just this thread I am a nonnie and so was my mother whose book, "The Highly Sensitive Person" I inherited when she died. The whole bunch of posts on being sensitive to textures of clothing, sounds, smells, etc. was my experience growing up. My daughter has the same kinds of sensitivities, so I will assume she is also a nonnie. My own experience at age 8 with the 'Dreaded Yellow Sunday Dress' gave me the experience to buy only one new pair of anything for my daughter until we knew she could tolerate the texture of the clothing. We gave many a set of socks, jeans, shirts, and dresses to the local woman's shelter until we found some brand that would work for her. Then we would buy the article of clothing in every color they had. I wish my own mom had done that for me. I had to learn it for myself. I remember going to the shoe store before I could read and turning over every pair of tennis shoes to find the ones with a specific sole that felt best. :P My dad never understood that.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:09am; Reply: 234
:)
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 9, 2010, 6:39am; Reply: 235
Quoted Text
[/quote]On the basis of just this thread I am a nonnie and so was my mother whose book, "The Highly Sensitive Person" I inherited when she died. The whole bunch of posts on being sensitive to textures of clothing, sounds, smells, etc. was my experience growing up. My daughter has the same kinds of sensitivities, so I will assume she is also a nonnie. My own experience at age 8 with the 'Dreaded Yellow Sunday Dress' gave me the experience to buy only one new pair of anything for my daughter until we knew she could tolerate the texture of the clothing. We gave many a set of socks, jeans, shirts, and dresses to the local woman's shelter until we found some brand that would work for her. Then we would buy the article of clothing in every color they had. I wish my own mom had done that for me. I had to learn it for myself. I remember going to the shoe store before I could read and turning over every pair of tennis shoes to find the ones with a specific sole that felt best.  My dad never understood that. [quote]


What a wonderful statement by one who has seen the wisdom of acknowledging that the world is as it is and all else is illusion.. I suffered all my early years but never thought about it much - just accepted it as that this is the way life is- no one then knew the difference - no one was guilty- no one made me do anything-

Then I experienced a change in diet - and from that day on I knew that I had suffered all my life- and with it came my quest for knowledge- I searched knowing my life depended on it- I became not single minded- but unshaken in my need to find answers to who "I" am.. I FOUND IT AS A NONNIE.. and I understand that life is not on illusion - unattainable- but real every time someone experiences PROFOUND change, acceptance and action - the world is a much better place for us NONNIES in it.. WHAT A THREAD!!!!!!!!!! Thanks all types of Nonnies.....

I would have a question:  Are Nonnies ever afraid?? or are we brave?? how has it changed who we are? Are we more tolerant? More sharing?
Posted by: Possum, Friday, April 9, 2010, 8:17am; Reply: 236
"I would have a question:  Are Nonnies ever afraid?? or are we brave?? how has it changed who we are? Are we more tolerant? More sharing?" What's been your experience?

Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:25am; Reply: 237
I knew fears very well until I recognized how I did the creations of em on my own... when once got the ahhaaa... wew... I became very clearsighted and no more fears at all  ;) ;D ;D  about braveness... oops how borings, isn't it ??) (huh)(scared)(ondrugs)....about sharing...yep this is one of my preferst things, i can't be without it ....coz it's a normal behaviour.... I think...(evil)(nerd)(funny)(shrug)
Posted by: Kumar, Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:49am; Reply: 238
Hi nonnie folks,

What a great sharing! If some of you have had no chance to test your secretor status as yet, a simple blood test for Serum Alkaline Phosphatase might also indicate that you are likely to be a nonnie: nonnies tend to score about 20% as compared to secretors. Symbi has found out a good site for study if someone is interested in the findings.

May I ask a sensitive question to all of you nonnies? Are nonnies sexier (in physical and emotional sense and not in the sense of beauty as such)? (I ask this question based on some of my observations, where suspected nonnies did appear to be so.) Please do not get annoyed by the question and forgive me if I have put a wrong question.
Posted by: Possum, Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:03pm; Reply: 239
Are you thinking Nonnies are more adventurous Kumar ;D ;) I would consider myself to be more of a flirt (if that counts for being sexy) & love male attention & company, more than women's ;)

Sorry if that offends any women - its not that I don't enjoy women friends - its just that I have never been one to "go out with the girls" I always have preferred the dynamics of mixed company...
Posted by: newtypeA, Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:17pm; Reply: 240
Interesting questions.

As a kid, I was a little too brave for my own good. Several times I did stuff that could have gotten me killed.  :o  I still have that streak in my nature, but life has toned it down some.

And as for the sexy part...I don't know. Maybe I should put up my picture and see what y'all think.  ;) :K)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:17pm; Reply: 241
This would make a great face book site Non -secretors Using Eat Right for Your Type.. Needs a nonnie in charge. :) :)
Posted by: newtypeA, Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:28pm; Reply: 242
Bought some Guinness beer recently, but the beer tasted too strong for me. That's the only way I can describe it. I was wincing while tasting it. Oooo! So I would pour some in a glass full of ice and then add an inch of flavored coffee creamer in it to take the edge off. Sort of turned it into an iced coffee beer.

Does this sound like something a Nonnie would do?? Just wondering.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:03pm; Reply: 243
I asked the question are nonnies afraid, brave, and sharing.. and I did mot even know the answers.. I am adventurous, I want to go with someone some where for a good reason, I think I am poor at doing it alone, sharing yes that is the spice if living..  yet the reason I asked .. did the nonnie thing make us stronger, dependent? and understanding more or less because we are nonnies.. as for the sexy thing- romance loyalty and committment .. IF one finally feels good then it's up for grabs..
Posted by: jeanb, Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:53pm; Reply: 244
I am a nonnie, very adventuresome.  Traveled through Europe on my own in my late teens and early 20's.

Used to ski some very gnarly stuff before my Achilles Tendon surgeries.  I get more speeding tickets than my husband.  Like to try anything once.  

I would consider myself more curious than brave, I have a fear of heights, I cannot do the trapeze.  

I love to share or be altruistic.  
Posted by: Lola, Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:28pm; Reply: 245
Quoted Text
add an inch of flavored coffee creamer

:X
Posted by: battle dwarf, Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:54pm; Reply: 246
first time i have seen this and have not been tested but there is a good probability i am a noni.
the moto here is: please don't touch and don't overwhelm me with your presence    
i like and relate to this, even to the point were other people subconsously avoid touching me. my ex was an exseption. he was always wanted to touch me, grab me, hold me..... and it drove me litterly nuts to the point were i did things just to keep him off! when people go to toucht me i warn them to tell me first if they want to keep that hand. i automaticly lash out at an unexspected toucht! five min of cuddling was five min too long.
sounds? high pitches rake my nervs like claws. i even hear dog wistles! low pitches i might hear but they are just there.
light? as a teen i had green chritmas light on my ceiling and i was happy with that as my only light. i read by them and every thing. i HATE those new blue car lights!!! i hate them. they actuly HURT. regular car lights i can't see past untill they go past. though last night i had a kid come though drive through at night with yellow glasses on. i asked about it and he said it helps with the oncomming car lights. i don't normally drive at night during a time were there are alot of other cars but i am going to try this next time i do.
tickling hair? ichy noses and ears? oh yes and i have great hair i hate to have to put it up becuse it is the one thing i get complaments on. and if a hair gets off and tickels the back of my arm i go nuts tring to get it. and god forbid it wriggle it's way into my pants!
i never realy thought about seams but now you guys mention it i buy victorias secreat becuse their underwear has no seams! and i love those painted on lables, tags will actuly give me a rash from rubbing. i have had pants to that to my hips before i switched to hip huggers. and i am very picky on my shoes. i tell shoe sellers on my way in "i know what i want and if you don't have it don't waist your time tring to sell me something else"
sexy? i don't think so but guys do seem to be attracted to me.
Posted by: Possum, Friday, April 9, 2010, 8:20pm; Reply: 247
And as for the sexy part...I don't know. Maybe I should put up my picture and see what y'all think.   

Personally, & from what guys tell me, I don't think sexy is all about looks...(not that I'm considered bad looking btw)

They reckon there are some gorgeous looking women who are absolute ice maidens ??) who don't give off any vibes other than, I know I'm gorgeous but don't you dare... ::) That's not sexy - Apparently its about warmth, vitality, sensuality...
Posted by: Kumar, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 8:56am; Reply: 248
Yes, Possum. sensuality, warmth and vitality: I have something like these in mind when I think of being sexy. (more in the biological sense and in a sense of heightened need for sex).
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 9:10am; Reply: 249
;)
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 1:09am; Reply: 250
i can be a terrible flirt with out even meaning too. dose that help?
Posted by: Kumar, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:26am; Reply: 251
Well Battle Dwarf, what one does actually is a different matter but my point is more on the biological urge from inside: flirting could well be a safe outlet for deep sensual urges!
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:45am; Reply: 252
maybe, i have 3ed degree (fresh) emtional burns right now. i have always been out going and prefer guys as company to girls. the girls i know around here are all so....girly. i am a natural tom boy and to guys i am usuly "one of the guys". my ex always said i was sexy but i think he was only thinging about his smaller self.  ::)  :-/
Posted by: Kumar, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:50am; Reply: 253
:)
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, April 12, 2010, 2:43am; Reply: 254
Same here, Battle Dwarf.  I'm quite the tom boy and have worked hard to "redo" myself in attempt to be a little more feminine.  (Not trying to start an uproar here, I'm just sayin'.)
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, April 12, 2010, 5:06am; Reply: 255
Kumar, have you ever practised Tantra ??) ;) .... :X ;D ;D(whistle)
Posted by: Kumar, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 4:48am; Reply: 256
Amazone, not except during sex acts!
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 5:55am; Reply: 257
;) ;D ;D ;D(sunny)
Posted by: nwiser, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 10:19pm; Reply: 258
Quoted from Ribbit
Same here, Battle Dwarf.  I'm quite the tom boy and have worked hard to "redo" myself in attempt to be a little more feminine.  (Not trying to start an uproar here, I'm just sayin'.)


This is me, too! Plus I still think I look kind of like a kid (not in a young, good way though).
Posted by: paul clucas, Thursday, April 15, 2010, 1:32am; Reply: 259
I think I know about the flirtatious/sexy thing.

There is a - for lack of a better word - charisma that some have that turn heads of the opposite gender (and the same in jealously).   My girlfriend at the age of seventeen had that ability.  She had black hair, blue eyes, and a shortened hourglass figure.  A definite Explorer, she could command the eyes of all males from the age of seven to seventy in the room.  The Explorer Monograph does not do her natural (to her) ability justice by half.  She was not beautiful, but she was somehow magnetic.  The worst slurs were whispered about her (not true), and no young woman had a good word to say about her.

I always thought that she would do great things on stage with that strange power of hers.  I never connected her figure, her charisma, and her loneliness before reading the last part of this thread; a non-secreting explorer.

All I can say about myself is that my pulse will increase even if just a reasonably attractive woman enters the room.

Historically, would extra friskiness and a kindred sympathy that preferentially pairs non-secretors together, account for the non-secretor gene from disappearing?  Do non-secretors have more children on average?
Posted by: Kumar, Thursday, April 15, 2010, 5:02am; Reply: 260
Good food for thoughts Paul! I tend to think along those lines too.
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, April 15, 2010, 11:40am; Reply: 261
Paul, I'll start a poll and maybe we can see.

Edited:  It seems to me, after I posted the poll, I remember reading that nonnies are usually very fertile.  But I don't know if that's because we emit pheromones and attract the opposite sex.....or if our wombs are just really sticky. ;)
Posted by: paul clucas, Friday, April 16, 2010, 3:40pm; Reply: 262
I called my sister on her birthday, and she is still a "tom boy" much like battle dwarf.  Even with two pre-schoolers to care for.

Plays soccer in a men's team twice a week and works out in the gym on other days.  I am confident she is an Explorer given her rangy big boned frame.  She certainly has to exercise to keep the flab off - she told me that herself!  She is in Shanghai now, and has mixed feelings about going back to Stuttgart with the family when her husband's posting in China is over.

I would say that she enjoyed flirting when she was single.  She learned early on how to fend off unwanted male attention.  She is a true extrovert, who is fluent in quite a few languages.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, April 16, 2010, 11:42pm; Reply: 263
is her husband a German diplomat?
Posted by: paul clucas, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:08am; Reply: 264
A French Engineer.

There was a tri-lingual wedding and reception English/French/German.  I appreciated the trip to Normandy.

Her ability with modern languages came as a surprise to her in college.  She has a dominant personality that went down quite well teaching German executives how to speak English.

;D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:26am; Reply: 265
very globalized! :)
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, April 17, 2010, 9:32am; Reply: 266
:o :o :-/ ;)(dizzy)(dizzy)Paul please explain more ..what is meant with hourglass figue??)... poor lady, I feel really deeply with her.... ;DLOL(funny)(funny)(evil) :D

btw...it's amazing to feel as a neutrum.... :B ;D ;D,
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 10:16am; Reply: 267
Not sure about a shortened hour glass figure... :-/ but an hourglass means a curvy "egg timer" shape = very slim waist with accentuated hips & bust...in proportion to each other... ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, April 17, 2010, 11:19am; Reply: 268
thanx Possum... :K).. def. not in my case ;)...... I am merely mesomorphic and andric.... :o :B........ ;D :X.......
Posted by: Sharon, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 2:05pm; Reply: 269
I also wonder what effects a long ring finger in men and a long index finger in women has.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:45pm; Reply: 270
yea i got one of those figures. one of my grannies always said i had a "cute" shape. got a new pc and the board is a bit different. i keep reaching for the back space and hitting the num loc on the kye pad! at lest i am not hitting the finger pad and jumping around the paragraph...yet.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:09pm; Reply: 271
androgen
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 1:45am; Reply: 272
I look like an inverted pear with toothpick legs and arms. :-/  Oh, well.  DH is happy. ;)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 1:55am; Reply: 273
Oh Ribbit the visual... :D Don't be too hard on yourself ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, April 22, 2010, 8:43am; Reply: 274
with best regards to all ;) ;D

Habibi ya nour el - my darling you are the....
or better said: Ishtar Alabina:Habibi ya nour el ain



fine to google ;) (clap)(ok)(dance)(sunny)under ishtar :D
but difficult to find out ...sorry.... :-/ :o :B :K)....but when found... go and let shake your body....(answer to Pauls issues..no ??) ;) :D ;D ...yeeeeaaaa... 8) :K) :K) :K)...go..go..gooo..for it...  :X :X ;) ;D ;D ;D....

couldn't get it better but it's a beautiful mix between arab, israelian and gipsy musique... worth to listen and observe.... ;)(goofy)(whistle)(smarty)LOLLOL(dance)(smarty)(clap)
this is one of my patterns....nooo this is completely me...yep I've to admit... my culture.. all you can imagine...Yaman...do you understand right now ??) ;) .....
this was for me the Samos meeting with ya.... ooold souls, rememberings  and storries ;)...there were some beautiful pics taken from our discussion....and here this musique begun.... hey I'm talkin from da musique ;) ;D....
Posted by: battle dwarf, Thursday, April 22, 2010, 4:48pm; Reply: 275
sounds like my kind of music. i love middle eastern and mixed culter music.  :D
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, April 24, 2010, 2:01pm; Reply: 276
I think one might be a nonnie when one asks a lot of questions..

has friends who tolerate all the differences..

8)
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:14pm; Reply: 277
a rare disease... ;) ;D(dizzy)(think)(smarty)(funny)(funny)
Posted by: amazon, Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:04pm; Reply: 278
Is it possible for the secretor tests to be wrong? I can relate to everything you guys are talking about and I have celiac disease and dental problems but I just got my secretor status back and it says I'm a secretor. I thought for sure I'd be a nonnie.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:10pm; Reply: 279
not likely, no

want to change your shield to reflect your secretor status? :)
Posted by: amazon, Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:23pm; Reply: 280
Ok thanks I just thought I'd ask to be sure  :)
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, April 25, 2010, 2:16am; Reply: 281
Amazon, it wouldn't surprise me if other problems (gut issues, for example) could cause hyper-sensitivity.  Hopefully that'll go away for you.
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, April 25, 2010, 1:42pm; Reply: 282
:o :o :o I've got a little concurence...(goofy)(huh)(hehe)(hehe)(hehe)(sunny)
Posted by: MileHighRob, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 6:38pm; Reply: 283
Reading through this thread has convinced me to order the secretor test kit.  I really need to wait another week with the holiday and first of month at hand though.  

I have strong suspicions that I'm a nonnie and would be very surprised to find out otherwise.
Posted by: Juliette, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 7:42pm; Reply: 284
Thanks for this thread, wondering now if I'm a nonnie!  Does it change the A (teacher) diet loads?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 7:59pm; Reply: 285
if the basic teacher diet were not giving you the results you need, then a swami might be the next step, and that would be an individualized fit.....

but no need to go there if the basic teacher diet in the book works like a charm, which in fact happens to many
Posted by: Juliette, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 9:12pm; Reply: 286
Thanks Lola, so far it is fitting fine (I'm just hoping for goat's milk and dark chocolate back in small quantities as these are great pleasures of mine which I haven't kicked into touch yet)
Posted by: VictoriousLiving, Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:50am; Reply: 287
You know, I had suspicions that I was a nonnie because I have multiple chemical sensitivity ( self-diagnosed) and the sensory issues that go with being on the autistic spectrum ( formally diagnosed).
The test I ordered from NAP says I am a secretor. I wonder if I need to be re-tested?
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 31, 2010, 2:52am; Reply: 288
if you feel adapting your secretor status in both BT and GT is simply not working, then by all means, test as often as you consider enough......
would being a nonnie change your GT in any way?
Posted by: VictoriousLiving, Monday, May 31, 2010, 5:48pm; Reply: 289
No it wouldn't change my GenoType. According to the book, if you are female and a non secretor you must be Rh positive to be an Explorer. All I'm really saying is that I have some of the characteristics of a "nonnie".
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 1:59am; Reply: 290
Here's my take on Explorers.  It seems to me that I play Explorer in real life even though I measure a Warrior.  I wonder if secreting Explorers are the closest GenoType to being nonnies. That probably doesn't make much sense scientifically, but I'm not sure how else to explain it.  It just seems to me, reading how you Explorers react to things, if you're not a Nonnie, you may as well be one.  Does that make any sense to anybody but me?
Posted by: paul clucas, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 3:44pm; Reply: 291
Yes, Ribbit.  But you already know what I think about that.

You would be a Warrior/Explorer mix.  I am related to three female Explorers who are likely all secretors.  Untangling the differences between nonnie Explorer and Rh -ve would clear things up a little.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Friday, August 13, 2010, 2:45pm; Reply: 292
You might be a nonnie if... the sound of crinkling water bottles drives you nuts.  

My 7 year old daughter loves to sqeeze the plastic bottle and make that awful crinkling noise when the bottle is empty.  I don't know why but it is super annoying. :o
Posted by: Changeling, Friday, August 13, 2010, 3:05pm; Reply: 293
Quoted from Tom Martens
You might be a nonnie if... the sound of crinkling water bottles drives you nuts.  

My 7 year old daughter loves to sqeeze the plastic bottle and make that awful crinkling noise when the bottle is empty.  I don't know why but it is super annoying. :o


Nahhhh...I'm a nonnie and LOVE to squeeze those bottles ;)...but then again, I also like to "pop" bubble wrap... ;D

Changeling
Posted by: Tom Martens, Monday, November 22, 2010, 5:08am; Reply: 294
You might be a nonnie if:  When your wife gives you as smart remark bout how far away from the store you are parking you decide to park another 50 yards farther away in less than a milli-second.

We've been married for 17 years- when is she going to get it?(shrug)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, November 22, 2010, 5:15am; Reply: 295
Quoted from Changeling
Nahhhh...I'm a nonnie and LOVE to squeeze those bottles ;)...but then again, I also like to "pop" bubble wrap... ;D Changeling
Oooh me too!!! I have to take some home from work each night  & I "pop" it at the lights & then while I am parked waiting to pick up husband... I find it relaxing :D Not so my poor man if I forget & keep doing it while he is driving ;)
I don't like the sound of plastic bottles though when I have sucked all the water out & then they make a loud noise!! Makes me yelp & jump!!

Posted by: Goldie, Monday, November 22, 2010, 11:12am; Reply: 296
Quoted Text
You might be a nonnie if... the sound of crinkling water bottles drives you nuts.  

My 7 year old daughter loves to sqeeze the plastic bottle and make that awful crinkling noise when the bottle is empty.  I don't know why but it is super annoying.


PUT scotch tape around some of the bottles that will stop the sound.. after a while the child will forget..

but then as a potential nonnie in the future of the child.. why plastic bottles?? why not beer bottles they don't break easy..   I am laughing out loud..

Quoted Text
We've been married for 17 years- when is she going to get it?
  
Tom you are funny..

I have a saying on my walls.. for my survival every day!

When will I get it   that   'they' don't get it.      ??)

When will 'I' get it that   'I'   don't get it.         ::)

have fun with that ..  ;D  and parking away from the store is my best exercise..
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, November 22, 2010, 11:25am; Reply: 297
;D ;D ;D ;D :D(funny)(funny)(funny)(funny)(wiseman)(evil)(evil)(hehe)(joytears)
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, November 22, 2010, 4:22pm; Reply: 298
Quoted from Possum
I don't like the sound of plastic bottles though when I have sucked all the water out & then they make a loud noise!! Makes me yelp & jump!!

Let some air in while you drink and the bottle won't collapse while you are drinking... ;)   ;D
Posted by: O in Virginia, Monday, November 22, 2010, 4:31pm; Reply: 299
I hate the noise of those empty water bottles.  Really hate that.  :(
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 8:28am; Reply: 300
Quoted from amazon
Is it possible for the secretor tests to be wrong? I can relate to everything you guys are talking about and I have celiac disease and dental problems but I just got my secretor status back and it says I'm a secretor. I thought for sure I'd be a nonnie.



Just being an Explorer makes you strange enough. lol No need to also be a nonnie. *teasing*
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 9:12am; Reply: 301
Quoted from ABJoe
Let some air in while you drink and the bottle won't collapse while you are drinking... ;) ;D
Oh I usually do  ;) - that's why it makes me jump when it does happen...it's just the times when I am super thirsty that I don't come up for air, that it surprises me :D ;)

Posted by: DenverFoodie, Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 5:38am; Reply: 302
Sexy is in the eye of the beholder. 8)
Posted by: SandrAruba, Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 1:41pm; Reply: 303
Quoted from DenverFoodie
Sexy is in the eye of the beholder. 8)


I thought that was "sexy is in the eye of the beerholder" ??  ;D

Posted by: 13874 (Guest), Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 5:23pm; Reply: 304
Oh my god. I've found home! Others like me!! Everything on here makes me want to laugh  (and cry happily) because there are other people as sensitive as I am. My entire life I have struggled to have enough energy and strength to take life as well as other people. Constantly sensitive to my environment and whatever I expose myself to, a more delicate system that never had anything wrong "medically". Secretors just don't know what it's like! Try telling other people you are 'not sick but don't have the energy'. The line in the original post above about just saying 'I'm allergic to that' is so true as well. Thank you other nonnie's for sharing on here! Maybe I'm not the alien I thought I was haha :D
Posted by: kauaian, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 6:03pm; Reply: 305
Your dentist sent u postcards from his vacation in Europe.  
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 7:59pm; Reply: 306
;D :D
Posted by: Tom Martens, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:16pm; Reply: 307
You might be a nonnie if:  You solved one problem of the upper leg lower leg length thing causing normal pants length to change drastically when you sit causing a "highwater" effect -whew... to now having to roll your pants up so as to not step on the now too long pants when walknig and not wearing shoes.  The feeling of walking on the ends of you pant legs is just too annoying.

Having to explain the whole cause and effect to get to the point is probably nonnie thing too :-/
Posted by: Niagreen, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:46pm; Reply: 308
just reading through some of these I'm getting really itchy!!
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:52pm; Reply: 309
Quoted from Tom Martens
You might be a nonnie if:  You solved one problem of the upper leg lower leg length thing causing normal pants length to change drastically when you sit causing a "highwater" effect -whew... to now having to roll your pants up so as to not step on the now too long pants when walknig and not wearing shoes.  The feeling of walking on the ends of you pant legs is just too annoying.

Having to explain the whole cause and effect to get to the point is probably nonnie thing too :-/
;D :D

I often wondered why some people's trousers didn't sit right when they sat down ::) ??)

Posted by: MsRubyLu, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 9:32pm; Reply: 310
You might be a nonnie if you have to change clothes when you come home from anywhere away like shopping or the dentist.  I can't stand the lingering scents on my clothes. I sometimes also have to air the house out after friends are over to get rid of the lingering deoderant/hand lotion/dryer sheet smells that come with them. They know not to wear perfume but don't get the other things. Once of my best friends told me recently that I was the weirdest friend she had. (I think that's why she keeps me as a friend) :)  

Does anyone know how the inheritence of nonnieness works??

The word nonnie never bothered me but the NON on the new shields did, I'm starting to get used to it, by ignoring it  :)
Posted by: jetsgirl15, Saturday, March 26, 2011, 2:16pm; Reply: 311
I am pretty new to GTD (4 weeks in) and am having great results. feeling better and have lost 14 pounds (so happy). I have not yet tested my secretor status. Wasn't sure if I needed to so last night I decided to do a search in the forum and see what I info could find.  What I found made me laugh so hard!!!  I started reading the "You might be a nonnie if..."   What a revelation!  When I got to "Could you please chew your applesauce more quietly" my mouth dropped open (literally).  The entire reason I got on the computer when I did was that I had to leave the other room because my husband was chewing and I just couldn't stay in the room! (he thinks it's funny!) As I read through all of the posts it was like finally understanding myself. Everything rang true.  The not being able to wear wool ( i break out in a horrible rash), not being able to stand a turtleneck or the feel of hair tickling my skin, or having my hair a headband, the not being able to sleep well because every little noise bothers me,  sensitivity to sound and temperature! Anyway thank you all for making me feel like I am not alone! Should I still be tested when it seems so obvious or just start taking the nonnie status into account when eating?
Posted by: geminisue, Saturday, March 26, 2011, 3:29pm; Reply: 312
One might be a nonnie, if they jump when they hear, the little spritz from an air freshener!
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, March 26, 2011, 3:56pm; Reply: 313
Yeah, it's like we're all suffering from adrenal exhaustion or some mild form of sensory integration disorder.... :-/
Posted by: Luana, Saturday, March 26, 2011, 4:02pm; Reply: 314
You all make me laugh because I'm basically the same way!  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 1:01am; Reply: 315
take nonnie status into account, and test whenever possible......you have nothing to loose
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 4:22am; Reply: 316
Quoted from MsRubyLu
You might be a nonnie if you have to change clothes when you come home from anywhere away like shopping or the dentist.  I can't stand the lingering scents on my clothes. I sometimes also have to air the house out after friends are over to get rid of the lingering deoderant/hand lotion/dryer sheet smells that come with them. They know not to wear perfume but don't get the other things.
I just filled up our water bottles at the outdoor spring & as ppl arrived one by one to do the same, I could smell each person's "scent" so strongly ::)
Before that we had just been to see a film in a 10 seat cinema & thank goodness in that small room, no one seemed to be wearing obnoxious scents... ;) ::)

& just on Friday night we'd had drinks with a friend & she hugged us both goodbye...& when I got into the car I could smell her perfume on our clothes very strongly... ??)
Quoted from jetsgirl15
I started reading the "You might be a nonnie if..."   What a revelation!  When I got to "Could you please chew your applesauce more quietly" my mouth dropped open (literally).
Hope it wasn't full of applesauce :D ;D
Congrats btw on the weight loss!!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 6:01am; Reply: 317
Quoted Text
What I found made me laugh so hard!!!


welcome to weirdo club!!! ;)
Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 5:03pm; Reply: 318
You might be a nonnie if:

You are on the BTD or the GTD and are a frequent visitor to this forum ! ;)

Seriously, though, I have been wondering how many regular posters on this forum are nonnies.  It seems that we are so much more plagued with health/wellness issues that it could be our nonnie-ness (that's a technical term  ;D) that brings us to the diet and the forum.

Maybe we should do a poll of forum members of how many are nonnies and how many are secretors.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 5:18pm; Reply: 319
more than 80% of Dr D s patients at the clinic and in general, Bridgeport and such are nonnies! :)
Posted by: Niagreen, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 6:30pm; Reply: 320
it baffles me so! being this way!

my mum always says to me 'I think i must be a non - my sweat doesnt smell. Here, smell my feet. The don't smell. Yes I am non.'

can nonnies have superhealth?  I guess not 20% of the population is ill...  ??)
Posted by: Niagreen, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 6:39pm; Reply: 321
do we need more protein than secretors?
Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:17pm; Reply: 322
I have gotten through most of this thread and find that I share some, not all, of the nonnie traits.


Here is how my nonnie-ness expresses itself:
I have definite light sensitivity.  When I was a child and got my first pair of glasses, the eye doctor told me that because my eyes were so pale (blue/green), that light would bother me more than most.  He was correct.  I buy excellent quality sunglasses to help with this.  Those halogen headlights have only made it worse.  I try my best not to drive at night any more unless I have to.  In fact, my eyes are so pale that if I wear blue my eyes look really blue and if I wear green my eyes look really green.  How can that be???

I have a very strong sense of smell.  I can smell things that no one else in my family can smell.  One funny story is that when I was in the Massachusetts Army National Guard and away at summer camp, I was the driver for a lt. colonel and his superior.  We were in an open jeep on a long, flat, open dirt road.   There was another open jeep about 400 yards in front of us.  I told the two officers that I did not think it was a good idea for the officer in the jeep ahead of us to be smoking a cigar because we were supposed to mimic battle conditions and I could smell the smoke, thus the enemy might smell it as well.  Both officers looked at me like I was crazy and said they didn't smell a thing.  The officer in the jeep ahead of us then turned to the side and the three of us could clearly see him holding a huge cigar in his hand.  We all laughed, but I thought it was strange that they couldn't smell the cigar smoke and they thought it was strange that I could! :o

Also, I have a couple of friends who wear strong perfume or aftershave.  When they kiss me upon greeting me, their perfume/aftershave smell gets on my face and clothes and I can smell it until I shower.  I also smell things in my house that no one else in my family can smell.  Sometimes I will search for the source of the smell for a couple of days.  I usually find the source.

I am a very light sleeper.

My teeth are filled with fillings, crowns, etc.  In fact, I need a lot of dental work right now.  And yes the sound of the dentist's drill makes me break out into a cold sweat.

Heat and cold bother me.  The fall is my favorite time of year.  Warm days, cool nights!

However, I can wear turtlenecks, wool, shoes and socks with seams.

Hair doesn't tickle.

I am an extrovert (ENFP-Exroverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 11:23pm; Reply: 323
That is funny that you smelt the cigar smoke... Let's hope the enemies weren't nonnies too :D

When you mentioned that halogen lights really bother you, it reminded me, I had to turn off one set of lights at work on Friday they were bothering my eyes so much!! ::) We have really hot, strong white (fluorescent?) spot lights all over the shop ??)
I got a strange headachey (without pain) sensation in my eye, with blurring to the left of my left eye & as soon as I went in to another room my eyes recovered ??) My co-worker that day says she has also suffered eye damage from 6 years of working in that store??!!
Looking forward to work on Wednesday ::) Maybe I will have to transfer to the other store (I already work there 1 day) The ceilings are much higher there so the lights are not as in your face ??) :-/ It would also cut down some travel time :-/
Posted by: Lizzie, Monday, March 28, 2011, 1:06pm; Reply: 324
I only just found this thread. It's eerie, I can agree with everything. Both kids are nonnies too but I'm always thought of as the weird one.

When I wake up in the night it's nearly always because of a loose hair on the sheet or pillow!

When I was young my place in our car used to be behind my mother on the passenger side. she always wore Channel No. 5. I used to feel sick from the minute I got into the car until a good while after I got out. Nobody ever understood. Even now after 40 years the smell of it now turns my stomach.

Another thing ...
when we're playing boardgames or cards in the evening at the coffee table, my daughter leans with her knees against the table and whenever she moves the table just a tiny bit on the wooden floor I go mental. I have to re-align it every time (as well as the newspapers, the dining room table, the bed, etc., esp. after hoovering - I can't let anybody else do it).
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:35pm; Reply: 325
Quoted from Possum
That is funny that you smelt the cigar smoke... Let's hope the enemies weren't nonnies too :D



You crack me up, Possum!

Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:39pm; Reply: 326
Quoted from Patty H
  In fact, my eyes are so pale that if I wear blue my eyes look really blue and if I wear green my eyes look really green.  How can that be???



Patty, you probably have both blue and green in your eyes, and depending on what color you wear, that's the color it brings out in your eyes.  I expect many people's eyes do that--change from blue to gray to green depending on what color they wear.  Do you look best in warm or cool colors?
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:44pm; Reply: 327
Quoted from Ribbit


Patty, you probably have both blue and green in your eyes, and depending on what color you wear, that's the color it brings out in your eyes.  I expect many people's eyes do that--change from blue to gray to green depending on what color they wear.  Do you look best in warm or cool colors?


I look best in cool colors.  I am a winter from a color perspective, so I look best in bright colors.
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, March 28, 2011, 3:04pm; Reply: 328
Patty please if your fillings are still amalgam take em out as quick as possible.... :o :-/(huh)and get em replaced with healthier material  ;) ;D(pray)aaah ja.... all a question of super teeth....(pick_nose)(mad)(evil)(evil)mine will be soon perfect....(funny)(hehe) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :X
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, March 28, 2011, 3:28pm; Reply: 329
Quoted from Amazone I.
Patty please if your fillings are still amalgam take em out as quick as possible.... :o :-/(huh)and get em replaced with healthier material  ;) ;D(pray)aaah ja.... all a question of super teeth....(pick_nose)(mad)(evil)(evil)mine will be soon perfect....(funny)(hehe) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :X


I don't think I have the original fillings any more.  Mine have had to be replaced several times, som with crowns and one bridge.

Thanks for the heads up!  I will definitely check it out.
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, March 28, 2011, 7:21pm; Reply: 330
;D :D(clap)(ok)(dance)(smarty)(sunny) fine...
Posted by: Possum, Monday, March 28, 2011, 7:41pm; Reply: 331
Speaking of which - my (could be nonnie from behaviour, teeth etc) husband has to have 6 crowns :o What is the best material to get these made in?
He has one gold one already (as mentioned previously) but I want to try & make sure he doesn't get that plastic leeching stuff.. ??) :-/ Cheers :)
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, March 28, 2011, 9:07pm; Reply: 332
Quoted from Possum
Speaking of which - my (could be nonnie from behaviour, teeth etc) husband has to have 6 crowns :o What is the best material to get these made in?
He has one gold one already (as mentioned previously) but I want to try & make sure he doesn't get that plastic leeching stuff.. ??) :-/ Cheers :)


Possum, this would be an excellent new thread.   ;)Why don't you start it, then people will know what kind of info you are looking for . . . I would be very interested, too, since dental work looms VERY large in my future.   :'(
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:51am; Reply: 333
Ok then... Kinda think it has been discussed before :-/ Will try to do a search before  I do...at this rate I ain't never gonna get off this computer lol unless anyone (Lola anyone else??) knows of a link to the thread on this?? ??) ;)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 1:42am; Reply: 334
http://www.google.com/custom?q=implants&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3A4452213b291e6613%3B&domains=dadamo.com&sitesearch=dadamo.com
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:02am; Reply: 335
Aww thanks heaps Lola!!!! You are a champ!! So do I just use that link but type in what I am searching for?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:29am; Reply: 336
Quoted from MsRubyLu


Does anyone know how the inheritence of nonnieness works??



Past thread explaining it:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-lr4yt/m-1244429314/#num3
Posted by: MsRubyLu, Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 4:13am; Reply: 337
Thanks C#... That is what I wondered. :) I'm sese and my daughters will at least carry se if not be nonnies.
Posted by: bluejay, Sunday, May 8, 2011, 9:25pm; Reply: 338
I've been trying to get through page by comical page of this thread for about a month or so.  While I haven't finished it yet, I feel the need to share this...

"You know you are a nonnie if:"

This old 90's music video symbolizes your quest to find other people (nonnies) like you...enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qVPNONdF58


Posted by: TJ, Monday, May 9, 2011, 1:45am; Reply: 339
I love that song!
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, May 9, 2011, 1:54am; Reply: 340
That was a riot!!! Thanks for sharing . . .   ;D
Posted by: TJ, Monday, May 9, 2011, 2:14am; Reply: 341
I love the expression on her face when she finally find a place she fits in, and people who understand her.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 9, 2011, 5:21am; Reply: 342
Lizzy.. that is not nonnie.. it is obsession??   sis does that to.. I wonder if she would be a nonnie if ever she was tested.. to funny all the stories..

I do have a ionizing air freshner, since I don't like cooking smells.. it runs 27/7 .. I never even think about it any more..  ;D funy after reading all the posts..  ::)

Lola..  80% clinic visitors are nonnies - that is quite interesting.  I wonder what would happen if my reg Doc would ever read about nonnies..  maybe he would test his clients more often.. but then if you cure us all, then there is no need for more paid income visits.. but immagin the great reputation he could build up?

as for TEETH and crowns and fillings and whatever .. it is a problem as there are few choices.. it's either the metals or the plastic.. no matter .. the only thing to do is prevent it .. and remember that every 15 - 20 years they need to be replaced.. nothing is forever..and it gets progressively worse.. in hine sight I wonder if I ever should have bothered rather then just get 'plates'..
I have big experience with teeth and the dentist can build a vacation home with my money, not to mention the pain I suffered from all the work and the implants.. no fun..



Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 9, 2011, 5:54am; Reply: 343
Quoted from Goldie
I do have a ionizing air freshner, since I don't like cooking smells.. it runs 27/7::)
Sooo, it runs overtime I see??!! :D :-/

Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, May 9, 2011, 4:28pm; Reply: 344
Quoted from Possum
Sooo, it runs overtime I see??!! :D :-/

Maybe NY has more hours in the day than everywhere else... ;D   ;)
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:26am; Reply: 345
Quoted from Linda
Ack!  The sensitivity!  I remember as a kid the trouble my mother had with me when it was time to buy new shoes.  NOTHING was comfortable.  Shoe shopping was such an ordeal.  And keep that scratchy wool ten feet away from my skin.  I almost jump out of bed every morning when the hot water heater in the closet clicks on.    Oh.....I could go on.

You know your a nonnie if...

The aroma of crispy, hot bacon makes your body swell.


Hah I just found out that I'm a nonnie and Patty recommended reading this thread for some good laughs LOL...I do feel like I found my home...and I'm not so strange afterall. Here's one:

You might be a nonnie if you have to remove the tags from your clothes because they scratch your skin, or if you can't stand wrinkles in your sheets...Haha..I am constantly smoothing the wrinkles away, and now I know why...LOL

I am only on page one of this thread and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy reading the rest of it...:)
Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, June 2, 2011, 5:45am; Reply: 346
Quoted from Niagreen
do we need more protein than secretors?


The short answer is yes. :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:28am; Reply: 347
Quoted from 14428


Hah I just found out that I'm a nonnie and Patty recommended reading this thread for some good laughs LOL...I do feel like I found my home...and I'm not so strange afterall. Here's one:

You might be a nonnie if you have to remove the tags from your clothes because they scratch your skin, or if you can't stand wrinkles in your sheets...Haha..I am constantly smoothing the wrinkles away, and now I know why...LOL
The few times I ran a fever as a kid, I recall having a kind of hallucination (always the same) of a huge crumpled up piece of paper that had been smoothed out but you could still see the imprint of the crumpling... Drove me nuts!! Oh & I hate it when my husband tosses around at night & causes the electric blanket to get rumpled in the middle of the bed... ::) When I am alone it never moves ;)
Oh & the only way I lose weight is to eat practically pure protein...
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Thursday, June 2, 2011, 3:28pm; Reply: 348
Quoted from Victoria
OSuzanna, you made me smile with that gnat fart business!   ;D

Body odors on people can distract me so much that I can't even be in the same room with them.  And mouth/breath odor.  I can't ignore it when the smells are bad.  I have to fight to keep from throwing up!  Clutter in a house makes me so claustrophobic, but I'm not bothered by dust bunnies or littlecobwebs.  

Lables on the inside of clothing drive me bonkers  :o and seams on the insides of my socks have to be positioned so that I can't feel them at all when my shoes are on.

I have to make my bed before I get in it.  No, I don't make my bed in the morning, because I like to let the mattress ventilate.  In the morning, I turn down the blankets to let air reach the bed.  But before I go to bed, I make everything lined up and smooth, with no wrinkles in the bottom sheet.  I don't like to feel blankets bunching up in the bed.  

All this is normal for a nonnie, don't ya think?   :K)


LOLLOLLOL(funny) Sounds completely normal to me...so glad someone mentioned clutter, my brain gets so distracted and agitated around clutter...and no wrinkles in my bed please... ;D
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, June 2, 2011, 6:42pm; Reply: 349
no wrinkles in my bed either.... ;) ;D
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, June 3, 2011, 1:40am; Reply: 350
Possum, I used to have fever induced hallucinations as a kid, too.  Mine were always voices, a chorus of voices fading in and out.  I really hated that.  It was so creepy and crazy.  The voices were annoying textures and patterns.

I can hear my pulse echo through my pillow if I don't sleep on my back.  That will keep my from sleeping because it seems so loud, so I have to sleep on my back.

Sometimes I think I'm a whacko.  Thank goodness I have people around me to keep me grounded, particularly DH who is very sane, normal and practical, although he says I keep him sane.  In which case we're both in trouble!  
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, June 3, 2011, 10:52am; Reply: 351
O in V, nope not at all, please get more informed about your psychogram in the enneagram = 4/5 and also in MBTI.... your toughy n-side might be a challange for you ;) ;D.....(clap)(ok)(smarty)(sunny)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, June 3, 2011, 11:51am; Reply: 352
Quoted from Amazone I.
O in V, nope not at all, please get more informed about your psychogram in the enneagram = 4/5 and also in MBTI.... your toughy n-side might be a challange for you ;) ;D.....(clap)(ok)(smarty)(sunny)


Not familiar with enneagram, but will check into it. Thank you!   :K)   :)
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 4:58pm; Reply: 353
My wallet is a nonnie right now - it is non money secreting!  But when i have the funds, i will get a secretor test.
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 7:50pm; Reply: 354
wavies to Virginia :K) fom Isa in CH-landli ;) ;D :D
Posted by: Golfzilla, Tuesday, July 5, 2011, 8:23pm; Reply: 355
Quoted from 107
Yes, I am so super sensitive, but definitely better now on BTD, just around my monthly times I am still pretty bad!   :P  My dad was always like this, on the edge all the time!  I find myself doing the same.  I also have to run a fan at night because of the constant whirring sound.  I can't stand the total quiet because I hear everything around me, even breathing.  It has gotten better though, but I still much prefer my fan.  (My hubby doesn't care for it too much!  He says, "Why do you want noise to sleep?"  He thinks I am nutsy!)

Slurping soup just grates on my last nerve as well, slurping anything, hot tea, whatever.  Just thinking of the dental drill noise makes me want to scream.  It's like I can feel the noises itself.  Yikes!  I think it is a nonnie thing because we are just so sensitive...period.  I am finding that magnesium, calcium and tyrosine does help though.  

P.S.  That catechol about knocks me out!  It makes me sleepy...


My wife and I play a "white noise" cd all night...

Posted by: O in Virginia, Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 12:02am; Reply: 356
Quoted from Amazone I.
wavies to Virginia :K) fom Isa in CH-landli ;) ;D :D


Waves back!     :K)
Posted by: Z, Thursday, July 7, 2011, 3:05am; Reply: 357
I am a veterinary surgical technician who can't stand having the gown to thight around the neck. So I always hold on to the front while someone ties it, everyone knows about my quirk but if they happen to space out and start tightening it too much ( I need it really loose otherwise I'll freak  :))  I will demand to have it loosened. My boss even once commented that I must have been hanged in a previous life!
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, July 7, 2011, 4:49am; Reply: 358
btw... often the infj's are the most so called"able to receive infos outta the other world* so please don't be shocked if you've to reckognize that this isn't crazy at all but you've only been on top of another frequency ;) ;D...(clap)(ok)(dance)(smarty)(hehe)(hehe)if you're going to become more familiar with those frequencies you'd become not only clearsightned but a medium ;) ;D....LOL(smarty)(whistle)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, August 19, 2011, 8:55pm; Reply: 359
I've just read up to page 9 (note to self: resume reading at the top of page 10) and I have a few observations to make:

I think I read part of this thread when I first joined, but then stopped because I felt like I was "intruding" on "proper nonnie space" when I couldn't be sure of my secretor status.  I really resonate with many (though not all) of the things listed- but then so did JJR (back when he was ABNoWay) and he turned out to be a secretor!

I can't help but wonder how many of these "common nonnie traits" are really specific to nonnies, or it's just that the nonnies are posting while the secretors (or non-nonnies, tee hee) are avoiding the thread. I similarly wonder how many nonnies  don't  identify with this hyper-sensitivity.

Ribbit- you mentioned somewhere early in this thread about your husband being a nonnie too. Has that been verified? Also, is he the AB or one of the Bs in your family?

I can definitely relate to that "crawling out of my skin" feeling at times. I often feel like "If I could just take off this irritating layer (bra, tight waistband, sweaty panties, etc) I'd feel better- but I often get that feeling even when nothing I'm wearing is cutting in! I'll go to my room and undress and the  feeling won't go away; it's like an itch just under my skin. I'm actually surprised when the discomfort was actually caused by clothing and changing my clothes actually helps!

I'm very easily distracted- if there's music (with audible lyrics) playing, or the TV's on, I can't focus on anything else. There have been times when I've had to tell DD1 "You can either watch TV or have my attention, but you can't do both." That's gotten better because we've established better rules for TV watching in the household, and it's less likely to be on when we want to cook dinner together.

Funny how so many of you can't stand to be outside without sunglasses. I can't stand sunglasses, period! I always wear a hat wtih a brim to block the sun from my eyes, but I don't want anything to dim my actual view or change the colors. I actually did just purchase clip-on sunglasses, that fit onto my prescription glasses, but that's the first pair of sunglasses I've owned in years. I've recently, just this summer, started to notice that the sun is too bright at times, such as at the beach or driving at dusk.
Posted by: brinyskysail, Friday, August 19, 2011, 9:22pm; Reply: 360
I wish I knew my secretor status - I feel like this thread was written for me, but, then again, everyone has quirks.  I am super-sensitive to everything though and always have been; I guess sensitivity is different that just random quirks.  I'm having general blood work done soon; maybe I could have the Lewis test done...
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, August 19, 2011, 9:46pm; Reply: 361
Quoted from Ribbit
Here's my take on Explorers.  It seems to me that I play Explorer in real life even though I measure a Warrior.  I wonder if secreting Explorers are the closest GenoType to being nonnies. That probably doesn't make much sense scientifically, but I'm not sure how else to explain it.  It just seems to me, reading how you Explorers react to things, if you're not a Nonnie, you may as well be one.  Does that make any sense to anybody but me?


(note to self: resume reading on page 13)

Ribbit- that makes perfect sense to me. I wonder if most of the "secretors who thought for SURE they were nonnies!" are Explorers.

Soon I want to start a poll about people who resonate with "nonnie traits" and how many of them are nonnies (and, in the same poll, people who thought for sure they were secretors  but aren't.)
Posted by: zenphoenix, Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:07pm; Reply: 362
you might be a nonnie if the smell someone eating corn chips drives you out of your mind and makes you gag.

;)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:13pm; Reply: 363
Along with the sound of the bag crinkling while they eat!
Posted by: zenphoenix, Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:20pm; Reply: 364
how did i forget that part! lol  ;D
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, August 21, 2011, 11:10am; Reply: 365
the sheets have to be flat.. ::) I make my bed three times a night right after a hot flash.. in the morning its just for show.. -who to-- me - for the new bedspread.. ahaha

Quoted Text
I do have a ionizing air freshener, since I don't like cooking smells.. it runs 27/7Sooo, it runs overtime I see??!!  


You are funny.. it took me a minute before I read it correctly? +++ so
IF you are a nonnie: then the air freshener MUST run overtime!   hahah

NOW REALLY have to read all near 400 posts here.. and see what else I identify with.. a good laugh on a rainy day.. ;D

Clutter yes, I can't live with it, habits of putting things in one or the other place start from the moment I do it.. habits are so habit forming, It must be a nonnie thing? :o  

My closets are neat but the desk top a scramble..  the closet thing is on issue too all things have to hang nicely- I refuse to hang it up twice because it falls down - I have more hangers then the stores I bought them from.

What about it nonnies?  DO you like curtains? or does it matter - so long as you can do without them??????   oh yeah.. shoes never feel good when new..  :-/

I doubt it to be a nonnie thing, but my floors have to be shiny so thy at least look clean..
House guest can make me bonkers..  why can they not see the need to be like me? I take my shoes off when coming home, why don't they? or dry a bathroom sink after use? or make the bed when getting up? or .. no: I am not anal ? ! ?

But if I think long enough about this thread- I will be..  :X

  
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 12:32pm; Reply: 366
You might be a nonnie if....

Your son comes home from camp and you need to wash EVERYTHING he brought home. Of course the dirty clothes need to be washed, but the "clean" ones stink of scented laundry detergent, and the balled, unworn socks (and the raincoat) picked up the scent by association. You regret that the suitcase isn't machine washable.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 3:26pm; Reply: 367
And then, when you go to switch the laundry, the towels STILL reek of scented detergent so you wash them AGAIN- even knowing that many others wouldn't have bothered washing them a first time.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, September 22, 2011, 6:28pm; Reply: 368
r-girl, use some fine essential oils instead ;) ;D... but yup I recognize.. could be me as well... :B :X(funny)(hehe)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, September 22, 2011, 8:11pm; Reply: 369
Why would I need to add essential oils to the laundry? I have no problem with the unscented detergent I use when I wash clothes. The problem came when my son returned home from camp with clothes that were washed at camp with scented detergent, and probably too much of it. Adding essential oils to try and "cover up" the smell wouldn't have helped- natural fragrances would have only made the synthetic fragrances all the more irritating. I can only enjoy natural scents when my system isn't being overloaded with chemicals.

I solved the problem by washing the affected clothes with vinegar, and no added detergent.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:26pm; Reply: 370
Oh Yes laundry detergent.. what a wash out..I use clear no smell only..

I am on my diet again to drop the next 20 pounds.. so I entered 40 pounds lost in Swami.. well it did not change - as far as I can tell yet.. Typical NONNIE take over- no matter what : I am nonnie first and always..

So I am dropping the weight KNOWING that my diet will remain steady..

A good thing, at least I am not going from one to another Geno type.

Hurray for Nonnies!  Steady reliable and forever!

  
Posted by: TJ, Thursday, September 22, 2011, 11:31pm; Reply: 371
You might be a nonnie if...

...The music played by your coworkers distracts you from being able to do your job effectively, and then you have anxiety over what they think of you when you express your concern.

Seriously, hard rock in a calibration laboratory?  Are you serious?  I gotta concentrate in here, people!
Posted by: battle dwarf, Friday, September 23, 2011, 5:41pm; Reply: 372
the sound of teeth scraping a fork while some one eats....AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tj hard rock/ metal/ rap at any place just drives me nuts. it actualy makes me angry. not just becuse i don't care for that sort of thing but just plain agnry at anything and nothing, just...angry. oh and don't forget that anoying bass people put in their cars and play too loud. i don't need to hear the song the whole thing is vibrating my bones and echoing off my skull and there are three solid walls between me and IT.
i can't wear the really nice head phones at gun practice becuse the sound of crickets is too much ditraction and i can hear you talk while i wear them just fine anyway. at work i have to read lips alot becuse while yes i hear you i also hear EVERY other noise in the place all at once, from the ice maker to the sizzling meat on the grill and YOU are one noise in a hundred that i hear all at the same time. i can no longer handle front counter durring a bus for longer than 10min. i litteraly go burserk and have to have relative quite of the outdoors after. i hate my job.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, September 23, 2011, 6:11pm; Reply: 373
Oh yes...music is very influential on our bodies, moods, ability to think, etc.  I could not concentrate with loud rock music going on in the background.  Not that I don't enjoy it in other contexts.  I have always been very affected by whatever music is going on.  I am aurally oriented.  TJ, Bach would be good music for you to play for the type of work you do.  :)
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 12:04am; Reply: 374
I'd rather have no music on.  I enjoy music, but even calm music can be distracting when I have to concentrate, and the guys I work with wouldn't tolerate classical music.  Somehow I think I'm missing the filter between my ear and my brain (whereas many people lack the one that should be between the brain and the mouth!)

I did much better today.  What can't a good night of sleep help?
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 12:05am; Reply: 375
Ps: It's so true that music affects our emotional and mental states.  Angry, noisy music promotes aggression and hinders clear thought.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 12:59pm; Reply: 376
Quoted from TJ
I did much better today.  What can't a good night of sleep help?


Glad it went better for you.  I agree about sleep.  :)
Posted by: gardengirl, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 1:11pm; Reply: 377
OinV, I get that pulse thing too! It's like the surrounding noise gets somewhat muted with each pulse? I've had it for about 7 months now. I haven't really told anyone (dr) yet as I wasn't sure what it was. I finally felt a pulse point and found that each "whoosh" correlated with a pulse. It doesn't hurt but feels pretty uncomfortable. Anyways, I rarely have it happen except when I stray from the diet more than 3 days in a row. I am still awaiting my secretor status, next week I should get the results. I stand strong that, yes, I am a nonnie but I want to be a secretor, better foods for me!
Posted by: O in Virginia, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 3:41pm; Reply: 378
Quoted from gardengirl
OinV, I get that pulse thing too! It's like the surrounding noise gets somewhat muted with each pulse? I've had it for about 7 months now. I haven't really told anyone (dr) yet as I wasn't sure what it was. I finally felt a pulse point and found that each "whoosh" correlated with a pulse. It doesn't hurt but feels pretty uncomfortable. Anyways, I rarely have it happen except when I stray from the diet more than 3 days in a row. I am still awaiting my secretor status, next week I should get the results. I stand strong that, yes, I am a nonnie but I want to be a secretor, better foods for me!


Whichever you are, secretor or nonnie, it will be great info for you to have.  Even if you are a nonnie there are still great foods on your list.  You won't look back.  :)  I haven't noticed the "whoosh" thing (it is exactly as you describe) for a while now.  I've been sleeping like a log lately so I hear and feel nada until I wake up in the a.m.  Btw, I've never had high blood pressure.  So I know it wasn't that - if my situation is any consolation.  I have to have lofty, very very soft pillows.  It muffles the pulse sound.  Now I can't sleep with any other type of pillow.  No hard pillows for me.
Posted by: gardengirl, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 4:40pm; Reply: 379
I have pretty low blood pressure, whoosh probably doesn't describe it but it was all I could think of:). Mine will happen after sitting and then getting up or when I lie on my back, like you. It happens very infrequently now, good, because I don't like it. Yep, one more week and I will find out, I did get SWAMI and entered myself as a non-secretor anyways.
Posted by: Patty H, Saturday, September 24, 2011, 10:35pm; Reply: 380
You might be a nonnie if:

The cost of the dental work you require is the euql to the GDP of a small, developing country  :-/
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, September 25, 2011, 12:52am; Reply: 381
At least I've been lucky as far as that concern.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, September 25, 2011, 6:08pm; Reply: 382
I enjoy music- but if it's on, I can't read, listen to people talk, or do any work that requires intense  thought. I focus on the music almost completely; I have to listen to the lyrics. I can crochet while listening to music, or cook (if it's not a new recipe) or clear the table, but I can't help somebody with homework or balance my checkbook if the music is on.

I also like the loud, angry music. I actually find it quite calming if I'm already feeling aggressive. It's like I let go of my aggression through the music rather than through screaming at somebody or driving aggressively. When I'm in that kind of a mood, soft music just makes me feel more angry. My brain is going faster than the music and it's just irritating.
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, September 25, 2011, 11:15pm; Reply: 383
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I enjoy music- but if it's on, I can't read, listen to people talk, or do any work that requires intense  thought. I focus on the music almost completely; I have to listen to the lyrics.
Ditto.
Posted by: NancyEllen, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 11:00am; Reply: 384
I'm with you ruthiegirl and TJ.  I have to go into one of our "quiet" offices in order to get my work done.  I own a family business and my children work for me.  They have never been able to understand why I can't concentrate with music on.  I have to have complete quiet in order to get work done.  I just found out last night that I am a non-secretor.   :B
Posted by: Poppy, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 11:07am; Reply: 385
I can relate to the sock thing, seams drive me nuts!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 11:39am; Reply: 386
Congrats on finding out your secretor status Nancy Ellen! (hands her a bouquet of avacados with coconut oil and lentils.)
Posted by: NancyEllen, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 12:00pm; Reply: 387
Thanks ruthiegirl!  I love avocados and coconut oil.  
Posted by: mariO+, Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:14pm; Reply: 388


Result is in: " I'm a Nonnie too "  Haha!  Funny I called my self a "nonni"  ( Italian for grandparents ) I became one for the first time last week, and today I find out, I'm a nonnie!!  :-) Look forward to postings from other nonnies.   :o  ;D
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:31pm; Reply: 389
welcome to the club!!!
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:44pm; Reply: 390
Quoted from mariO+
Result is in: " I'm a Nonnie too "  Haha!  Funny I called my self a "nonni"  ( Italian for grandparents ) I became one for the first time last week, and today I find out, I'm a nonnie!!  :-) Look forward to postings from other nonnies.   :o  ;D
Huge congrats on your new grandchild!! Double Nonnie eh? Welcome, from one double N to another ;)

Posted by: bluejay, Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:59pm; Reply: 391
mariO+, welcome to the nonnie club!

Ruthie, TJ and NancyEllen, I am right there with you about the music.  I can't concentrate with music on.

Possum, I miss your dancing cat (it was a cat, right?)...it always put a smile on my face.
Posted by: Pixu, Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 10:48pm; Reply: 392
mariO+ Congrats on your grandchild  :K) <3

I miss Possum's cat as well  :K)

I wonder if I'm a nonnie or if it's just my Explorer-ness...  ::)  ??)  ;)
Posted by: mariO+, Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 1:21am; Reply: 393
Thank you for the warm welcome... ;)
I'm here to learn and share what works best for us nonnie's   ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 1:54am; Reply: 394
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Possum, I miss your dancing cat (it was a cat, right?)...it always put a smile on my face.


http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1106766669/#num5
:)
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 6:32am; Reply: 395
I miss my cat too :( >:(
Posted by: Patty H, Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 10:46am; Reply: 396
Quoted from Possum
I miss my cat too :( >:(


Me, too!  :(
Posted by: Pixu, Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 12:43pm; Reply: 397
I personally found nothing negative in Possum and balletomane's animated signatures, quite the opposite... You would know it was them straight away - as I often read the posts on my cell phone, I have to roll left to right and back to see who wrote and what..

Just mho, sorry for going off topic.  :)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, October 5, 2011, 4:01pm; Reply: 398
Quoted from mariO+


Result is in: " I'm a Nonnie too "  Haha!  Funny I called my self a "nonni"  ( Italian for grandparents ) I became one for the first time last week, and today I find out, I'm a nonnie!!  :-) Look forward to postings from other nonnies.   :o  ;D


Congrats on joining the Nonnie club and congrats on the new grandbaby!
Posted by: Melisa, Tuesday, November 1, 2011, 11:44pm; Reply: 399
I am going to be surprised now if I am a secretor when  I get the results back.

So much of this fits me well.

Melissa
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 12:14am; Reply: 400
I am a veterinary surgical technician who can't stand having the gown to thight around the neck.
From Z
Oh, dear, this is a real biggie to me too!  :o I bought a turtle neck top a few years ago, but when I got it home and tried it on, I thought I was going to croak before I could get it off. I just thought I was reacting to the fabric, but not so!! I used to LOVE turtle neck tops and sweaters!!

I also like a little, SOFT background "noise" of some kind going on in the background at night if I am having trouble sleeping.

Screeching on chalk boards, tearing old fabric ---YIKES!!!

And dirty sinks in the bath ---UGH!

Can't concentrate around crazy beat music.

Can't stand loud crickets!
Posted by: hopeful18, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 4:24pm; Reply: 401
I was in denial when I first found out that I am a non-secretor. After a few days of absorbing it, I found the nonnie clubhouse. While I don't have all of the same sensitivities as each post listed, I have plenty. Enough so, that I kind of feel like I understand myself better. It's pretty cool actually!

Here are my sensitivities:
wool
uncomfortable clothes/shoes
bright light (I always wear my sunglasses)
cold temperatures where I can't get warm
loud noises/music
high stress situations
wearing a pony-tail for hours; I can wear it to work-out, but any longer & my head will ache
sensitive to medicine/caffeine/alcohol; I will have a hang-over if I have more than 1 glass of wine
I need at least 8 hours of sleep to feel rested

Here are a few that I thought of that I didn't see on the list:
I love my family/people in general, but I need quiet time too or I'm stressed
I love to have fresh air/sun
Exercise is is huge stress reliever for me

I'm thankful for this clubhouse because without it, I might still be in denial! :)
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, March 1, 2012, 6:11pm; Reply: 402
Quoted from hopeful18

Here are my sensitivities:
wool
uncomfortable clothes/shoes
bright light (I always wear my sunglasses)
cold temperatures where I can't get warm
loud noises/music

high stress situations
wearing a pony-tail for hours; I can wear it to work-out, but any longer & my head will ache
sensitive to medicine/caffeine/alcohol; I will have a hang-over if I have more than 1 glass of wine
I need at least 8 hours of sleep to feel rested

Here are a few that I thought of that I didn't see on the list:
I love my family/people in general, but I need quiet time too or I'm stressed
I love to have fresh air/sun
Exercise is is huge stress reliever for me


I'm thankful for this clubhouse because without it, I might still be in denial! :)

The ones in red are me all the time!
Posted by: hopeful18, Friday, March 2, 2012, 2:38pm; Reply: 403
That's cool Spring! We've got lots in common! :)

I've also noticed that it's important for me to follow what Dr. D suggests in the BTD book about A's not lingering in bed in the morning. If I get up right after I wake up, then I feel so much more energized & ready to tackle my day. If I linger in bed, then I think about how much more I'd like to sleep (not going to happen with 3 small children!), how much I have to do for the day & I just get stressed! Anyways, that was a great bit of advice. I wonder if other nonnies feel the same?
Posted by: Spring, Friday, March 2, 2012, 5:38pm; Reply: 404
Quoted from hopeful18
That's cool Spring! We've got lots in common! :)

I've also noticed that it's important for me to follow what Dr. D suggests in the BTD book about A's not lingering in bed in the morning. If I get up right after I wake up, then I feel so much more energized & ready to tackle my day. If I linger in bed, then I think about how much more I'd like to sleep (not going to happen with 3 small children!), how much I have to do for the day & I just get stressed! Anyways, that was a great bit of advice. I wonder if other nonnies feel the same?

This stuff still amazes me! Once in a blue moon I will enjoy just being snuggled up in bed and thinking good thoughts a while after I awaken. But, lying there stressing about this and that - oh, brother - I can do without that!!! I remember one night, long before SWAMI that I was being stressed by something or other, can't remember what, and I just sat up in bed and said to myself, "I don't have to lay here and take this!!" It was around three in the morning, but I hopped out of bed and quietly started doing housework. That "rebellion" did me more good than anything! ;D
Posted by: hopeful18, Friday, March 9, 2012, 2:27am; Reply: 405
Quoted from Spring

This stuff still amazes me! Once in a blue moon I will enjoy just being snuggled up in bed and thinking good thoughts a while after I awaken. But, lying there stressing about this and that - oh, brother - I can do without that!!! I remember one night, long before SWAMI that I was being stressed by something or other, can't remember what, and I just sat up in bed and said to myself, "I don't have to lay here and take this!!" It was around three in the morning, but I hopped out of bed and quietly started doing housework. That "rebellion" did me more good than anything! ;D


That's too funny! I know for a fact that getting out of bed right when I wake up (as long as it's close to my normal wake-up time) is a must for me. This morning, I kept laying in bed way past when I woke up at 6 a.m. & I was in such a bad mood this morning. Not fun. Tomorrow, I will get up right when I wake up.

I thought of a few more nonnie things to add to the list:

Hearing an ambulance or fire truck siren puts you on edge for a full 5 minutes.
While you love to wear flip-flops, you're nervous that people will step on your sensitive feet.
You often turn your phone ringer off because hearing it ring startles you, but then you turn it on again because it annoys you to keep checking to see if you missed a call.

I'll keep adding them as I think of them! :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, March 9, 2012, 2:44am; Reply: 406
Quoted from hopeful18
You often turn your phone ringer off because hearing it ring startles you, but then you turn it on again because it annoys you to keep checking to see if you missed a call.

Can't you turn the ringer volume to a low level rather the all the way off...
Posted by: hopeful18, Friday, March 9, 2012, 3:38am; Reply: 407
ABJoe, yes, sometimes I turn it to low, but then I won't hear it if I'm in other parts of my house. I enjoy reading your posts btw!
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, March 9, 2012, 5:01am; Reply: 408
Quoted from hopeful18
sometimes I turn it to low, but then I won't hear it if I'm in other parts of my house.

they haven't invented the ringer volume based on the distance from your phone you are...   ;D   ;)

I was thinking about me, who has my phone on my belt, so it is usually the same distance from my ears...  I just have to worry about how much ambient noise is present...
Posted by: TJ, Monday, March 12, 2012, 2:12am; Reply: 409
Quoted from ABJoe
Can't you turn the ringer volume to a low level rather the all the way off...
Vibrate mode FTW!
Posted by: Maxsmum, Monday, March 12, 2012, 8:09am; Reply: 410
I haven't tested either but having read this I think I might be a non too!
Posted by: 33939 (Guest), Thursday, July 11, 2013, 2:56am; Reply: 411
This stuff is all me to a tee.

Related to sounds and noise, my skin crawls if my fiance has the tv AND another source of sound, like watching a video on the computer, at the same time. Anyone else?? Ha
Posted by: Averno, Thursday, July 11, 2013, 4:33pm; Reply: 412
This is the first I've seen this thread, and wow are we an irritable lot...  :D   ;D   :P

I often feel utterly porous to environment and events swirling around me. To the point of sometimes feeling... hmmnn...not peripheral or detached, but more like the sum of the environment in it's entirety. Quite the opposite of how many would describe this strange feeling, but I think actually more accurate.

The post from LivinginATX sort of puts it into perspective for me... I simple don't tolerate disorder well. Auditory, visual... all the senses, really. So many things conspire against our balance and focus. We cope as well as we're able, but to an ultimately discordant state of being.  Could it also be that some of the disorders we so often associate with being nonnies are more directly influenced by this state than we even suspect?

A good reason to insist upon quiet time wherever we can get it, in order to recenter, recharge and revitalize. Maybe develop a better sense of selective disengagement to support all this coping.

Posted by: HolisticFox, Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 12:46am; Reply: 413
Quoted from Ribbit
Yeah, I want to know more about this too.  My siblings always told me, growing up, that I was too sensitive to everything physically and emotionally, but I couldn't help it!  I couldn't help it that I was either too hot or too cold or that all shoes were too tight or that waistbands itched or my hair tickled my face or that the insides of my cheeks itched.  I'm still hyper-sensitive to sound (I either hear it too loudly or I don't hear it at all) and temperature (low thyroid talking) and the words people say to me (what did they mean, and what could they have meant?)....but I'm better now that I have the BTD.  And I get better the older I get.

I have two to add:

You might be a nonnie if......you people-watch just to try to diagnose their food allergies based on the color of the bags under their eyes and where they wear their fat.

You might be a nonnie if......you can accurately guess your friends' blood types based on their health complaints.


I totally do both of those...  :D
Posted by: adumb, Wednesday, June 4, 2014, 6:00pm; Reply: 414
yeah i'd say feeling like a "loner" for most of your life is a definite trait of a nonnie

it seems like we feel, sense and receive things differently from the majority of people, like noticing how great trees, clouds and nature down to the absolute finite details. i find thunderstorms/snow amazing and thunderstorms especially fascinating. also very conscious about our health and people around us, kind of like a sixth sense.

i use to think something was wrong with me in highschool while everyone else was "hooking up" and going to parties and drinking and doing stupid, normal teenager stuff while i just didn't want to do that stuff and it didn't interest me. i'd rather be with a few friends, listening to music, or with animals instead. even today the loner aspect is still with me

i've gotten use to it but it still bothers me some times that i can't be "normal" like everyone else and just live life. .it's like normal people have a built in map in their brains showing them how to live life as a human being while nonnies don't seem to have that built in GPS and play alot of trial and error with life and struggle with living it

im sure i can think of several more of these "you might be a nonnies...", i'll post if i do  :)
Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, June 6, 2014, 6:00am; Reply: 415
Quoted from adumb
yeah i'd say feeling like a "loner" for most of your life is a definite trait of a nonnie

it seems like we feel, sense and receive things differently from the majority of people, like noticing how great trees, clouds and nature down to the absolute finite details. i find thunderstorms/snow amazing and thunderstorms especially fascinating. also very conscious about our health and people around us, kind of like a sixth sense.

i use to think something was wrong with me in highschool while everyone else was "hooking up" and going to parties and drinking and doing stupid, normal teenager stuff while i just didn't want to do that stuff and it didn't interest me. i'd rather be with a few friends, listening to music, or with animals instead. even today the loner aspect is still with me

i've gotten use to it but it still bothers me some times that i can't be "normal" like everyone else and just live life. .it's like normal people have a built in map in their brains showing them how to live life as a human being while nonnies don't seem to have that built in GPS and play alot of trial and error with life and struggle with living it

im sure i can think of several more of these "you might be a nonnies...", i'll post if i do  :)


Or maybe you're an INFJ Nonnie. :)
Posted by: Seraffa, Friday, June 6, 2014, 6:03am; Reply: 416
Quoted from Averno
This is the first I've seen this thread, and wow are we an irritable lot...  :D   ;D   :P

I often feel utterly porous to environment and events swirling around me. To the point of sometimes feeling... hmmnn...not peripheral or detached, but more like the sum of the environment in it's entirety. Quite the opposite of how many would describe this strange feeling, but I think actually more accurate.

The post from LivinginATX sort of puts it into perspective for me... I simple don't tolerate disorder well. Auditory, visual... all the senses, really. So many things conspire against our balance and focus. We cope as well as we're able, but to an ultimately discordant state of being.  Could it also be that some of the disorders we so often associate with being nonnies are more directly influenced by this state than we even suspect?

A good reason to insist upon quiet time wherever we can get it, in order to recenter, recharge and revitalize. Maybe develop a better sense of selective disengagement to support all this coping.



AMEN.
Posted by: Easy E, Thursday, June 12, 2014, 11:05am; Reply: 417
Quoted from TJ
Vibrate mode FTW!


That's funny, i keep mine on vibrate or silent usually!

Posted by: Enobattar, Wednesday, July 30, 2014, 3:43pm; Reply: 418
You might be a nonnie if it takes that small cut you gave yourself preparing your salad 'fixin's' last night about 3-4 days to close up and a good week to about vanish.   :-/
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