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Posted by: simeen (Guest), Friday, January 12, 2007, 8:17pm
Does any know if "avoid" foods are ok for external use. I am type AB and coconut is an avoid, but I use coconut oil for external use on my dry skin. Is that ok!
Posted by: Don, Friday, January 12, 2007, 8:18pm; Reply: 1
Food values do not apply to topical use.
Posted by: sue_ab, Saturday, January 13, 2007, 5:12am; Reply: 2
Quoted from simeen
Does any know if "avoid" foods are ok for external use. I am type AB and coconut is an avoid, but I use coconut oil for external use on my dry skin. Is that ok!


The only time an avoid could be a potential problem when used externally is when they are in a trans-dermal base.  Only creams that are in a trans-dermal base are absorbed into the blood stream.

Could be wrong but that is how I understand it...

Sue.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Saturday, January 13, 2007, 9:04am; Reply: 3
and ;D....until it is not proven that you are the same like me.....we, the royal A2B may eat coconut ;) ;D
and I just LOVE it :D


Posted by: Laura P, Saturday, January 13, 2007, 3:17pm; Reply: 4
I eat coconut oil too and apply it to my skin, the A2-ness in me is quite a joy
Posted by: Eric, Saturday, January 13, 2007, 3:50pm; Reply: 5
Quoted Text
Does any know if "avoid" foods are ok for external use. I am type AB and coconut is an avoid, but I use coconut oil for external use on my dry skin. Is that ok!



I was wondering the same thing, but more specifically about things like toothpaste, mouthwash, gum, etc...





Posted by: Alia Vo, Saturday, January 13, 2007, 9:30pm; Reply: 6
I'm glad you brought this point up, erict998.

I'm not overly concerned with putting natural, wholesome avoid topical products on my body and hair.  Everything that I currently use is very pure, organic, and to the best of my knowledge, they do not contain harmful chemicals.  

However, with items such as toothpaste and dental floss, I do scrutinze the product labels more carefully as these products come in direct contact with our mouth and can more easily end up in our digestive tract by accident or even little miniscule amounts over continual use, day after day.

Alia
Posted by: Alia Vo, Saturday, January 13, 2007, 9:46pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from bonnie


The only time an avoid could be a potential problem when used externally is when they are in a trans-dermal base.  Only creams that are in a trans-dermal base are absorbed into the blood stream.

Could be wrong but that is how I understand it...

Sue.


Hi Sue,
Could you please explain this statement; I do not understand your defintion of trans-dermal base.  

For instance, what products, brands, or specific examples would fall into this category?

Thanks Sue.

Alia
Posted by: Eric, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 1:31am; Reply: 8
Thanks Alia!  That confirms my suspicion then, which means I have to start looking for a new brand of toothpaste  :)
Posted by: Don, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 1:37am; Reply: 9
Or just stop using toothpaste and try a variety of other things like soap. You might want to check on other recent threads on tooth soap and dental care.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 1:40am; Reply: 10
I believe Sue means by transdermal, creams which can cross the barrier, like for example:
bioidentical hormone creams....etc.
Posted by: Eric, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 4:33am; Reply: 11
::tisk::  And to think that this whole time I grew up believing that having my mouth washed out with soap was a BAD thing!   :)
Posted by: sue_ab, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 4:57am; Reply: 12
Quoted from Alia_Vo


Hi Sue,
Could you please explain this statement; I do not understand your defintion of trans-dermal base.  

For instance, what products, brands, or specific examples would fall into this category?

Thanks Sue.

Alia


Hi Alia,

Yes Lola is correct.  I was specifically thinking about bio-identical hormone cream, because I use it, by being in a trans-dermal base it is able to pass into the blood stream but bypasses the major organs, ie liver and stomach.

I have been suprised how many products are available this way, usually obtained from a compounding chemist.

I do not think that most hand or body creams are in a trans-dermal base however I always double check labels and do research before buying any product.  

Manufactuers frequently change things for "our own good" so I thought it a good point to raise here.

Sue.

Posted by: Car0line (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:42pm; Reply: 13
I have been thinking about posing this same question for a long time--glad there's already interest!  My mom has also been concerned that the castor seed oil in her lip balms was causing the dryness and irritation around her mouth (that was the only common ingredient she found among the glosses that she believed caused the problem).  Now that she's borrowing my books, I can't verify her claims, but she told me that O's should avoid this oil.  Apparently we O's should also avoid aloe, but it's in so many things (including every natural mouthwash I've seen--so be aware).

There are so many irritating skin care ingredients out there, it's hard to keep up (so I follow this woman's research: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/dictionary.asp?TYPE=MAIN  Perhaps it's most important to avoid irritating ingredients as a whole at first, and then pare down according to your skin's preferences from there.  I definitely don't trust anything just because it's advertized as "natural" or "organic"--it doesn't necessarily mean it's good for your skin, just like eating an organic orange wouldn't be great for an O like me either!  

At least my skin has shown a great deal of improvement when I follow the BTD.  That's a major step that I couldn't accomplish with diligent, well-researched skin care alone.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:45pm; Reply: 14
aloe should be fine topically, unless you have an allergic reaction to it......
Posted by: Car0line (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:53pm; Reply: 15
I thought only non-secretor O's could eat coconut oil.  Or is the type base dictionary up for revision?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:54pm; Reply: 16
coconut oil is an avoid for O secretors....correct
Posted by: Car0line (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:57pm; Reply: 17
Right, but the ABs and As above seem to happy to consume it--that's why I'm confused.  
Posted by: Don, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 9:59pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from lkpetrolino
I eat coconut oil too and apply it to my skin, the A2-ness in me is quite a joy

Laura, If you are an A2 why don't you indicate that under your avatar?

Posted by: Don, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 10:01pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Car0line
Right, but the ABs and As above seem to happy to consume it--that's why I'm confused.  

Coconut is neutral for type A2B. I am not sure about type A2.

Laura, Did Dr. D tell you that coconut is neutral for type A2? It is not indicated in LR4YT.

Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 10:04pm; Reply: 20
I have a Type A friend that I chase around the block with a raw steak.  

She runs and screams, and I laugh in cruel delight.

Is that a valid example of an "external use"?
Posted by: Car0line (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 10:05pm; Reply: 21
O!  Thanks!  Where would one go to find out more about these subtypes and their diets?  (Mere curiosity)
Posted by: Don, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 10:08pm; Reply: 22
The LR4YT book is the only book that lists the diet changes for the A2 and MM subtypes.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 10:08pm; Reply: 23
.................................
about subtypes
subtypes MM in A
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype5.htm
MINOR BLOOD GROUPS AND OTHER POLYMORPHISMS


and in LR4YT on page 356 and the Encyclopedia
on page 43.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 10:11pm; Reply: 24
Ronagon,
that would be a new testing modality........should definately be applied!!! LOL

besides, it is a good workout all in one!!
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Monday, January 29, 2007, 6:34am; Reply: 25
Lola,

Yes, I agree.  

It's entirely possible that we've just created a new sport for the summer Olympics:  

STEAK-CHASING.

;D
Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 29, 2007, 3:16pm; Reply: 26
similar to the greyhound races........all bets are on!! LOL
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Monday, January 29, 2007, 6:53pm; Reply: 27
Or steak massage. it won't hurt her cuz its not transdermal.....or is it?
Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 29, 2007, 10:28pm; Reply: 28
;)
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