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Posted by: 107 (Guest), Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 5:16pm
I want to know what everyone is eating during the day (mainly O nonnies or just O's), supplements taking, and also everyone's exercise schedule.  Just be good to get some more ideas, adjust here and there and see what everyone is eating...
Here's mine as of right now:

get up:  drink big glass of water
bfast: eggs, some kind of veggie, hot tea
Supplements taken in the a.m. - seacure caps, calcium, multi vit, fish oil cap, catechol, probiotic

go to gym and work out: aerobics or running and/or strength training

home: drink smoothie with hemp powder, 1/2 tsp maca, cup blueberries, one banana, water

couple hours later:  lunch:  salad with olive oil and kelp on it, with red meat burger and a few walnuts

before dinner:  fresh juice:  carrot and pear with some spinach or other green

couple hours later:  dinner:  salad, veggie like brocolli or peas or greens, fish or chicken or beans like lentils

later:  hot herbal tea

before bed:  full glass of water
Posted by: Whimsical, Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 10:19pm; Reply: 1
Here is a "typical" day:

1 glass (about 2 cups) water first thing

Breakfast: Around 8am
1 cup fruit smoothie (I make 2 cups and put the rest in the fridge for later): banana, raspberries, blueberries, mango, lecithin, flax oil, juice
1 egg cooked in ghee
Some sort of veggie (usually broccoli)

Btw breakfast and lunch I try to drink 1L (4 cups) of water.  I also have a cup of tea (eg: green, kukicha, dandelion, rooibos, herbal).

Lunch:  Anywhere between 11:30am to 1:30pm
Dried fruit (raisins usually) or pumpkin seeds or some other sort of compliant snack if I have a long day at school
Some sort of protein (eg: beef meatballs, all beef sausage, chicken breast, roast chicken skin and all)
Kale with red peppers
Carrots
Maybe some celery

If I have a late lunch break I will eat part of my lunch during class a bit earlier in the day if I am getting hungry, then finish the rest on my lunch break.

Btw lunch and dinner I try to drink another 1L (4 cups) water.  I may have another tea if I am at school late.  I try not to have more than one cup of green tea per day - I discovered that my skin is better if I limit my green tea (I think this has to do with caffeine and stress).

Dinner: Usually between 6:30pm and 8pm
1 cup fruit smoothie (from morning)
I may have walnut butter on rice crackers or some other snack while I cook.
Some sort of protein (eg: bison burger, chicken breast, all beef sausage)
Another veggie (eg: celery, sweet potato fries, carrot juice)

If I'm still hungry I will have some sort of snack at the end of dinner.  I prefer not to snack between meals - I would rather eat a large meal and then focus on my day.  If I snack too much I feel sluggish and a bit bloated.

If I am going to get home too late to make and eat a proper dinner I will bring lots more food for lunch and just have an egg as my protein at dinner instead.

For snacks, I often make my own chocolate from butter, cocoa, tahini, veggie glyc, walnuts, and flax meal.  I will also sometimes make compliant brownies or cookies (also heavily featuring nut flours).  I love this stuff and will tend to eat more butter and nut servings that I should this way!  

It seems pretty common for Os to overeat nuts and I also wonder if craving these and things I make with butter or ghee means I need more fat.  Most meat I eat is organic and extremely lean, so I'm not getting as much as other Os maybe?  Bison burgers are only 7g total fat each (and pretty big!).  
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 10:30pm; Reply: 2
Sounds great!  Thanks for the information.  I had an idea about the nuts that maybe we were craving/needing the magnesium that they have in them.  Seems like I read that somewhere.  I also eat very lean bison meat as well.

So, you don't snack in between meals?  Interesting.  And you exercise before breakfast right?  Again, thanks for the post.  Could I have your chocolate recipe?
Posted by: Whimsical, Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 10:48pm; Reply: 3
I can't exercise before breakfast while in school, but when I am on vacation or on weekends I do.  I'm not exactly sure how this semester's routine will look (hard to find time to exercise and sometimes it has to be shuffled around), but I think this is how it will go:

Tuesday: Finish school at 5pm (ate lunch at least 3 hours prior), strength training for legs/low back/abs followed by running and elliptical
Wednesday: Finish school at 12pm (ate breakfast at least 4 hours prior, will eat lunch after gym), strength training for arms/back/abs followed by running and elliptical
Sat or Sun: Full body circuit (1 set per machine only) followed by running and elliptical

I may not be able to do 3 days per week, so if I move down to 2 I will omit the full body circuit day.  I may also try to swim in the AM before school one day per week.  I also do about 1 yoga class per week and also a very low impact dance class.

I'm also not into gym exercise every day.  When I am at the gym I am focused and I keep my HR in target the entire time I'm there (about 1.5 hours).  If I exercised this hard everyday I would be too tired and stressed!  Then again, I have a more active life than most office workers (walking, biking as transportation) and even at school we do some activity (massage, hydrotherapy, acupuncture, labs, etc) so we aren't sitting ALL day.
Posted by: Whimsical, Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 10:51pm; Reply: 4
Here is the chocolate recipe.  BEWARE!  
Posted by: vandelam, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 1:24am; Reply: 5
A usual day:

Get up, go for a 15km bike ride. On return, do cycle of exercises that moves all the joints in the body ... allegedly :-)

Breakfast: 3 eggs with a cup of parsley; a shake made up of pineapple juice, prunes, ground flax seed & larch.
Supplements: fish oil, kelp, multi-b plus c, alpha lipoic acid, zinc, calcium & magnesium.

If I'm hungry between meals, I snack on walnuts, pepitas, bananas & apples.

Lunch: usually leftovers from the previous night's dinner; as it's summer here, usually steak and salad made up of kale, broccoli, red peppers, zucchini, herbs, etc. with an olive oil & lemon juice dressing.

When I get home from work, I do a short routine of weights.

Dinner: as above

I may snack after dinner: some dark chocolate or now, as it's summer, cherries, blueberries, plums, apricots, watermelon.

And all during the day, I drink copious amounts of water & green tea.
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Thursday, January 11, 2007, 2:24am; Reply: 6
wow, you guys are awesome......Kate, the choc recipe looks fab!!
I am glad this thread was started...it does help to get ideas. I HAVE to have a slice of spelt toast with my eggs. Wonder if this will change.....maybe the parsley changes the experience.
Posted by: Alia Vo, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 2:26am; Reply: 7
I wake up very early before dawn every day of the week.

Typical Days:

Pre-Breakfast: small warm water with half of a squeezed lemon.

Breakfast: 3 tsp. dry sprouted buckwheat groats or amaranth, a small handful of some type of nut or seed (usually it's organic walnuts, pumpkin seeds, or milled golden flaxseeds), 1/4 cup soymilk, 1 serving of fruit.  

2 Hours after Breafast:  I drink 1 cup of green tea, and I usually drink all of my water for the day after breakfast and in between or during my workout--it's usually 7-8 cups.  I usually do not drink any more water in the day after this.

I exercise every day alternating: yoga, strength training with flexbands and free weights, aerobics, and sometimes pilates.  My strength training and cardio days coincide together.

Snack: Dry fruit or 1 fresh fruit (it's usually always a beneficial fruit--I rarely purchase neutral fruits)

Lunch: Protein source (tempeh, miso, tofu, sprouted lentils, green beans, edamme, or some of type of legume), a salad with raw vegetables.

Snack:  Dry fruit of fresh fruit (I usually eat my fruits separate from my main meals, with the exception of breakfast.

Dinner: 1 slice manna bread with a salad and vegetables.

Most of my food consumption throughout the day consists of vegetables which works well for my body.  My favorites veggies include: escarole, dandelion greens, broccoli, raw carrots, leeks, raw celery, romaine lettuce, onions, fresh gingerroot, spinach, fresh garlic.

Daily supplements: 2 tsp. Harmonia, 1 tsp. ARA6, 1 Deflect with breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Alia
Posted by: Don, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 2:51am; Reply: 8
Quoted from jayney-O
I HAVE to have a slice of spelt toast with my eggs. Wonder if this will change.....maybe the parsley changes the experience.

I thought I had to have some Ezekiel bread with breakfast for the first 6-9 months. No one told me to eat any differently.

That was during a period of time after the old message board was closed and before this forum started. Thankfully Heidi finally started up her column and told me to "think dinner for breakfast". I haven't looked back since, although I have refined it.

I now enjoy no cravings for sweets or grains all day long. It isn't until late afternoon or evening that I get a mild urge for a few carbs.

Posted by: 107 (Guest), Thursday, January 11, 2007, 8:12pm; Reply: 9
Wow!  This is awesome learning everyone's routines.  Vandelam, 15mile bike ride each morning?  That is amazing!  I like your eating style too.  You know that apples are an avoid for O's though, right?

It's hard to believe it is summer in Australia, when it is winter here in Kentucky.  So far the posts have been great!  Thanks and keep them coming.  I am getting great ideas.  I actually had a smoothie for breakfast this morning a couple hours before aerobics and I felt really good and MUCH lighter on my feet, more energetic too.  I had a good sized lunch with salmon, half an avocado (son at the other half!), salad with a little olive oil and some leftover lentils from last night with a bit of kelp in the mix.  I feel great and no cravings either.  

Don, a detailed report of your eating and exercise routine, please?
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Thursday, January 11, 2007, 8:14pm; Reply: 10
OH, ps, tell me what the parsley helps with Vandelam?  You obviously eat it fresh?
What is it good for in the a.m.?
Posted by: Don, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 8:37pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Tina
You know that apples are an avoid for O's though, right?

Only for type O non-secretors. Apples are neutral for type O secretors.

Posted by: 107 (Guest), Thursday, January 11, 2007, 9:19pm; Reply: 12
Oops!  Sorry about that!  You are right again, Don!   ;D

Eating schedule please?   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: vandelam, Friday, January 12, 2007, 12:11am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Tina
Wow!  ... Vandelam, 15mile bike ride each morning?  That is amazing!  I like your eating style too.  


Not exactly, that was 15kms, which is around 9 miles :-)
The ride is great for several reasons. I live in a semi-rural area. The bike track goes through vineyards following the the now disused railway line between my town & the next. There is always lots of flora & fauna depending on the time of year. I get to see the sun rise over rolling hills to the east; I can see glimpses of the sea to the west. This morning I even saw a kangaroo bounding just ahead of me along the path. That's pretty rare, though.
So this ride not only satisifies my aerobic needs but clears my head so that sitting in front of a computer all day for work becomes bearable ... just.

Quoted from Tina
OH, ps, tell me what the parsley helps with Vandelam?  You obviously eat it fresh?
What is it good for in the a.m.?


I use parsley because it is a beneficial green and it grows in my garden. I get eggs from my chickens, put them in the pan, pick the parsley fresh from the plant, and that's breakfast. Too easy.


Posted by: Lola, Friday, January 12, 2007, 12:13am; Reply: 14
chelating, to say the least!!
Posted by: Chris, Friday, January 12, 2007, 12:41am; Reply: 15
I usually eat beef and non-starchy beneficial veggies for breakfast and lunch; and snack on raw carrots and broccoli between meals.  Sometimes I make a big spinach salad.  For dinner I usually eat some roasted pumpkin seeds and sometimes a sweet potato or rice pasta.  Sometimes I eat kamut bread, or rice cakes w/almond butter.  I do plan on phasing out the grains and maybe the almond butter.  Nothin too quick though.  This gradual approach I've been able to stick with.  Besides eliminating grains I plan on including some beneficial fish in my diet.  I'm not a big fan of frozen fish so far; canned sardines are okay.  Fresh beneficial fish I know is the healthiest and tastes the best, but it's a matter of going to the store more, getting used to cooking it, and getting used to spending the extra dollars.  

I want to point out that I mainly eat carbs in the late afternoon or evening which I find keeps me more awake during the day (and free of carb cravings) and helps me wind down and sleep at night.  Other than that I drink 1-3 cups of green tea, rarely having a cup after 2 or 3p so that the caffeine doesn't affect my sleep.  I drink liquids (water or tea) 30 min. before meals or at least 2 hours after so that I don't wash away digestive enzymes.  
Posted by: bec-australia (Guest), Friday, January 12, 2007, 2:17am; Reply: 16
I usually have the following on work days:

Rising - tablets - 2 Astragalus, 4 slippery elm, 3 fishoil, bromelain/quercitin, rhodiola, NAC, magnesium, co q10

Breakfast 7am - Digestive enzyme, leftover meat & veg

Dandelion Tea (2 cups), Green Tea, White Tea throughout the day.

Digestive Enzyme
Lunch - at the moment because it's summer I have a salad with various meats (leftover from the night before), spinach, mango, walnuts, roasted beetroot with a coriander/lemon dressing.

Snack - around 6pm - teaspoon of almond butter, handful of nuts, sundried tomato, pineapple pieces (not all at once, just one at a time on different days).

Walk with the dogs, usually for 30mins to an hour.
Half a glass of water with iodine.

Dinner - digestive enzyme, meat & veggies - ie Lamb kebabs, bbq seafood, grilled veggies, grilled steak with steamed veggies, lamb roast with roast veggies etc.

Before bed:  3 EFA caps, Milk thistle, calcium,  slippery elm, astragalus, co-q10, bromelain/quercetin, NAC, Vit D,

On weekends we usually take the boys for a walk really early in the morning, buy the paper, then have a fresh cooked breakfast.
Posted by: Ben_Lamers (Guest), Saturday, January 13, 2007, 3:45pm; Reply: 17
When i wake up i drink a glass of lemon water that i make.

i wait about 30 min-2 hours and then eat a huge brunch :) which consists of beef and broccoli w/olive oil and Curry/Turmeric/Thyme depending on what i feel like. Curry my favorite :)

that is what i do about 80% of the time in the morning. the other 20% of the days i eat prunes/figs for breakfast and only wait about 15-30 min. after the lemon water.

I don't have a big lunch...snacks mostly. Fruit. Recently for snacks i used Pecans/Pumpkin Seeds/Prunes/Dulse. Dulse is a good snack for me. That reminds me i need more Dulse :)

For Dinner it is either beef again or Sardines/Salmon/Cod. I either leave it like that or if i have an early dinner then i add a vegetable like Spinach/Broccoli/Romaine.

Yesterday was a light day for me. I ate Prunes in the morning for breakfast. Avocado and Red Pepper for lunch. Then for dinner i ate Sardines.
Posted by: 1058 (Guest), Sunday, January 14, 2007, 2:59am; Reply: 18
Quoted from PenguinWarrior
 I'm not a big fan of frozen fish so far; canned sardines are okay.


So how do you eat sardines?  I love fresh fish, and I even cook with anchovies (haven't thought to check their compliance status - will do that), but am afraid of sardines.  I've gone as far as buying them & even opening the can, but couldn't bring myself to try them.  

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 3:02am; Reply: 19
I add them inside my salad, in chunks.

you can even make a spread for rice cakes or any compliant cracker.
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Sunday, January 14, 2007, 3:05am; Reply: 20
I never ate them before the BTD really either, but now I love them.  You can buy the skinless boneless to start out with if you want.  They are a little less scary, but don't have the good omega 3's really because there is no skin and bones.  We like the ones in olive oil better, but the water kind I think are better for you.  Anyway, we eat them right out of the can.  Just put them on the plate.  If you like hot sauce or whatever like that, you could add that on, or wrap them in lettuce for a sandwich.  If you do grains, you can eat them with rice crackers.  

Crown Prince is a good brand, but they are high in saturated fat, so I don't eat them every day, just a couple times a week or so now.  My little boys love them and eat them right up.  It freaks other people out when they see them do it!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 3:26am; Reply: 21
Tina, your two little boys sure are smart!!
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Sunday, January 14, 2007, 11:22pm; Reply: 22
Thanks Lola!  I think they are too, but I may be just a little biased!   ;)
Posted by: OSuzanna, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 11:46pm; Reply: 23
Here is a partial, but typical morning for me;;;
Celestial Seasonings Perfectly Pear White Tea w/a touch of dark brown sugar or none, beef, rare as I can make it, and fistfuls of raw parsley & maybe spinach. I feel like a million bucks, wide-eyed & bushy-tailed. Get hungry again maybe 3 hours later. At work, dark salad greens, purple onions, misc. other raw vegs, plain burger w/the bun thrown away, then sprinkle olive oil & red pepper flakes on the lot. My coworkers think I'm crazy, but I never get the afternoon sleepies anymore since BTD. They go around going I need coffee or sweets for energy to get me thru the rest of the day, & I just eat more leftover red meat. I'm a happy little cavewoman.
For dinner, red meat, salmon or liver or ??? w/ sweet potato, red onions, not enough greens.
There's a lot of variation, but that's the basics.
I try to keep the stinkier fish for home-eating where I can revel in sardines or whatever without upsetting my fussy judgemental lunchmates.
As long as I'm getting red meat at least twice a day, I'm a happy girl and feel good.
(That doesn't count being first in line if someone brings in birthday cake or pie to the office, cheating with chocolate & occasional coffee, but my health is still miles ahead of pre-BTD.)
Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, January 15, 2007, 5:54am; Reply: 24
Here's a week's worth of food (by day) that I did some analysis with. Don't know if you might find it useful. Here's the page: link to page
Posted by: shells, Monday, January 15, 2007, 12:52pm; Reply: 25
Great thread!  The similarities & differences are amazing. Here's mine:  

Large water before rising.

30 mins. then extracted veg. juice of carrot, celery & parsley

30 mins. 2 eggs (omelet or scrambled) with 2 of mushrooms/spinach/capsicum/onion

30 min. before lunch. smoothie of pawpaw, banana & ice

lunch of tin salmon or sardines or cut-up left over chicken with salad

late afternoon a handful of walnuts, pepitas or wild blueberries (packet)

dinner of meat usually beef steak, mince, casserole with at least 3 veg of carrot/gr.beans/peas/broccoli/spinach/sw.potatoes/zucchini

prunes with sups at b/time calcium, magnesium, vit C  :)  :D
Posted by: shells, Monday, January 15, 2007, 12:56pm; Reply: 26
P.S. morning sups of multi B, flax oil, fish oil, coq10, antioxidant, glucosamine, iron, & vit C powder with 2 large spoons of psyllium husks added!  (for ongoing constipation)!  

Maybe too much protein?

:X :X ??) ??)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, January 15, 2007, 1:29pm; Reply: 27
My teenager daughters typical day ( O sec- rh -)

6.30:  2 eggs fried in ghee- with different veggies: spinach, red pepper, tomatoes or maybe starchy veggies (in wintertime) parsnip or sweet potato fried again. 1 piece of fruit like grapefruit or banana
herbal tea; hibiscus based or ppermint - with honey. ( on very busy mornings maybe 1x a week: rye cereal with rice/ or almondmilk and fruit)

11.20 cold salad with broccoli, romaine- red peppers, tomatoes, carrots or peas. Cold meat like roast beef- turkey or cold fish.Olive oil/lemon dressing Water, and 1 piece of fruit - apples at the moment- but cold be grapes or water melon.

15.00 Herbal tea- sometimes green tea with honey- walnuts and dry fruit like prunes. Sometimes rice cakes with mozzerella
Sports in the afternoon:
1 hour badminton 2 x a week, 2 x long walk with me ( 45-60 minutes)- 2 hours sport in school- 2 x power yoga with me.
19.00 dinner: fish or meat with 2-3 veggies with ghee, butter og olive oil on.- always at least 1 beneficial - sometimes rice or other neutral grain- like spelt pasta- but we try to keep grain portions for weekends.
water- sometimes cranberry juice.

supplements- calcium with D3, halbut oil- in winter and fish oil in summer( she doesn´t eat enough fish), sometimes poly vitamin for O´s.

Sleep from 20.30/ 21 to 6 / 6.30- she is very fit - and hardly ever sick.

In weekends she is allowed more grains- and sugar- like homemade cake or fruit icecream.

2-4 times a year we do mc D - and she is allowed to eat whatever she likes !
- we hardly ever eats fastfood- and can´t afford to eat out much- so it is easy to make sure that her diet is OK.

Posted by: accidental_chef, Monday, January 15, 2007, 1:37pm; Reply: 28
Interesting thread!

Upon rising and after brushing teeth, 500ml water. That gets the bowels moving.

1 table spoon ghee + polyflora, deflect & B12

Resistance training for 45 minutes. Or, ab exercises for 45 minutes.

6oz pineapple juice with 2 teaspoons powdered flax seeds, diluted to 16 oz and drunk during the 3 reps.

60 minute outdoor running. Stretch exercises involving some yoga. Followed by bfast.

Bfast: 2 hardboiled eggs, left over green leafy veggies and other veggies+ Glucosamine

12/2-2hrs later: 1-2 cups Green tea, 1 banana, 3-4 slices guava, cherries if available, or plum + handful walnuts if available or, mixed neurtral nuts.

Lunch: 2 hard boiled eggs + Broccoli soup, mixed salad, one green leafy veg, one string bean variety veg, mixed veg dish. Bromelain,Traxicum, Promitokon, Glucosamine.

Tea: 1-2 cups green tea, 1 banana, nuts

Dinner: 2 hard boiled eggs, a dish with either pumpkin or sweet potato, +left overs from lunch (not the broccoli & salad). Dinner is not later than 7pm. Same supps as lunch.

Keeling over by 930pm...but I actually sleep around 10-1015pm and wake up at 430am.

No fluids 1 hour before bed time. Doesnt give you eye bags and puffy eyes ;D Polyflora & Deflect with 1 tablespoon ghee.

Cooking oil: Olive oil & ghee.

Rice in some form or the other creep in once a week. Totally unavoidable.
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Monday, January 15, 2007, 7:29pm; Reply: 29
Wow, accidental chef!  You eat eggs for breakfast, lunch and dinner?  How come?  I love eggs, but I don't think I could eat them for every meal.  Your routine sounds great though.  

I always drink a glass of water right before bedtime.  So, that's not good?  
Posted by: Whimsical, Monday, January 15, 2007, 9:51pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from Tina
Wow, accidental chef!  You eat eggs for breakfast, lunch and dinner?  How come?  I love eggs, but I don't think I could eat them for every meal.  Your routine sounds great though.  


I assume that accidental_chef must be vegetarian (no meat mentioned), so I guess the eggs are the substitute protein.
Posted by: accidental_chef, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 2:40am; Reply: 31
Quoted from Tina
Wow, accidental chef!  You eat eggs for breakfast, lunch and dinner?  How come?  I love eggs, but I don't think I could eat them for every meal.  Your routine sounds great though.  

I always drink a glass of water right before bedtime.  So, that's not good?  


Tina  :), whimsical is right!

And yes, water or any fluids right before bedtime isnt adviseable. I drink about 3-31/2 litres thro out the day but seldom before bedtime unless of course we are having one of those non scheduled days!
Posted by: Don, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 4:22am; Reply: 32
Quoted from accidental_chef
And yes, water or any fluids right before bedtime isnt adviseable.

Why not?

Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 4:27am; Reply: 33
I'm guessing because you pee alot
Posted by: accidental_chef, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 6:50am; Reply: 34
Quoted from ironwood55

Why not?



It's a beauty tip-fluids just before bed give you eye bags and puffy eyes.

And of course, Laura's point as well. Especially for women...

Posted by: Don, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 2:32pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from lkpetrolino
I'm guessing because you pee alot

A healthy bladder can hold up to 16 ounces (2 cups) of urine comfortably for 2 to 5 hours.


I started having trouble sleeping all night long without having to get up and go to the bathroom before I started the BTD. However, after about a year on the BTD this problem resolved itself and I rarely ever have to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night now and I frequently drink 16oz of water right before I go to bed. I drink the water before bed in hopes that it will assist in flushing toxins out of my system during the night's repair and restoration processes. Besides, I don't want to get dehydrated at night.
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 2:56pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from ironwood55



I started having trouble sleeping all night long without having to get up and go to the bathroom before I started the BTD. However, after about a year on the BTD this problem resolved itself and I rarely ever have to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night now and I frequently drink 16oz of water right before I go to bed. I drink the water before bed in hopes that it will assist in flushing toxins out of my system during the night's repair and restoration processes. Besides, I don't want to get dehydrated at night.



This would be because your adrenals are stronger and can better maintain the hormonal fluctuations during the night.  Having to go to the bathroom a TON at night is a sign of adrenal fatigue.  I only go once at night, unless my body is stressed out and then I go more often

Posted by: Don, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 3:16pm; Reply: 37
That is not true for me. My adrenal glands are much worse now then before the BTD, because of what happened when the candida in my system was killed off and the bound up mercury was released.
Posted by: MyraBee, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 3:27pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from ironwood55
I frequently drink 16oz of water right before I go to bed. I drink the water before bed in hopes that it will assist in flushing toxins out of my system during the night's repair and restoration processes. Besides, I don't want to get dehydrated at night.



Me, too!  But I usually drink about 32 oz. of H20.  I drink most of my water from 4:00 pm until midnight or so.  I put it off for as long as I can!

I really struggle, I mean really struggle, with this water thing!  I need, need, need, it, but as I've mentioned elsewhere, I hate to pee. And if I drink water in the evening, basically before going to sleep, I don't have to go as often.

What is the reason that so many seem to drink a large glass of water immediately upon getting up?  If I do that, how long should I wait for breakfast?  Also, when I drink water on an empty stomach, it makes my stomach hurt.  

Additionally, water is difficult for me to drink if it is not poured into a glass brimming over with ice.  On another thread, I was cautioned about that, but I wonder if its not more of a cultural issue?  

My.
Posted by: Don, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 3:45pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from MyraBee
What is the reason that so many seem to drink a large glass of water immediately upon getting up?  If I do that, how long should I wait for breakfast?  Also, when I drink water on an empty stomach, it makes my stomach hurt.

You should drink some water in the morning because since you probably haven't had anything to drink all night your body will be slightly dehydrated. You need to replenish all the fluids you lost overnight from breathing, perspiration, and urine.

Quoted from MyraBee
Additionally, water is difficult for me to drink if it is not poured into a glass brimming over with ice.  On another thread, I was cautioned about that, but I wonder if its not more of a cultural issue?

I have always read that cold drinks or foods shock the organs and therefore are not good for them or digestion. I don't know if there is any truth to that or not, but I rarely drink or eat anything cooler then room temperature anymore.
Posted by: Drea, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 3:55pm; Reply: 40
Myra, I live in an area with a well and the water has a slight 'taste' to it, although it is not harmful (we had it checked before we bought the property). Anyway, what I do (because I drink almost a gallon of water every day and am too lazy to continually refill the water purification jug) is add one peppermint tea bag to my 42 ounce container of water. After three or four refills, I will have three or four tea bags. They flavor the water just so and it is very refreshing. I sometimes use roasted dandelion tea bags, but I like the taste of the peppermint better.
Posted by: purlgirl, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 10:22pm; Reply: 41
"This would be because your adrenals are stronger and can better maintain the hormonal fluctuations during the night.  Having to go to the bathroom a TON at night is a sign of adrenal fatigue.  I only go once at night, unless my body is stressed out and then I go more often"


Laura --  I think a lot of my problems may be Adrenal fatigue.

I read the Allergy bk, am reading the Menopause bk right now - looks like the Fatigue book will be next. I think this is the right track to get help with my miserable nights of hot flashes, sweating and bathrm trips.
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 10:34pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from outdoordrea
Myra, I live in an area with a well and the water has a slight 'taste' to it, although it is not harmful (we had it checked before we bought the property). Anyway, what I do (because I drink almost a gallon of water every day and am too lazy to continually refill the water purification jug) is add one peppermint tea bag to my 42 ounce container of water. After three or four refills, I will have three or four tea bags. They flavor the water just so and it is very refreshing. I sometimes use roasted dandelion tea bags, but I like the taste of the peppermint better.



I like to put a slice of ginger in my water
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 10:51pm; Reply: 43
Hi Purlgirl.  Do you use maca powder?  This is really helpful for these type of hormonal issues.  I take it and think that it does help me...

I take the raw maca that has no starch in it.  I get it from http://www.naturalzing.com
It's called MacaPunch.  Also, just wondering, are you 100% compliant?  Something in your diet may be affecting you as well.  Just a thought.  

Magnesium at night helps as well.  400 mg at least.
Posted by: purlgirl, Friday, January 19, 2007, 12:05am; Reply: 44
Tina Thankx for your encouragement. Not 100% compliant,  but improving.  Red meat was easy to give up but Bread/grain is hard. If I could just simply not buy it I would be fine, but my dh likes bread.  Working on my A nonnie complete food list. It's shocking to see that foods I thought were ok, arn't.
I'l read up on Maca. I plan to keep improving my diet & suppliments first and see how I feel befor considering anything that might effect hormones.  
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, January 19, 2007, 1:45am; Reply: 45
Quoted from shells

Large water before rising.

30 mins. then extracted veg. juice of carrot, celery & parsley

30 mins. 2 eggs (omelet or scrambled) with 2 of mushrooms/spinach/capsicum/onion

30 min. before lunch. smoothie of pawpaw, banana & ice

lunch of tin salmon or sardines or cut-up left over chicken with salad

late afternoon a handful of walnuts, pepitas or wild blueberries (packet)

dinner of meat usually beef steak, mince, casserole with at least 3 veg of carrot/gr.beans/peas/broccoli/spinach/sw.potatoes/zucchini

prunes with sups at b/time calcium, magnesium, vit C  :)  :D

. . . . . Maybe too much protein?


This is definately NOT too much protein for an O.  
Posted by: shells, Friday, January 19, 2007, 7:18am; Reply: 46
Quoted from Victoria


This is definately NOT too much protein for an O.  


It certainly feels like it sometimes.  I am used to grazing through the day and find it hard to eat large amounts of meat in a sitting.  (Can constipation do this?)

There are times where I am searching for 'I don't know what' in my kitchen.  It is hard  8)
Posted by: Don, Friday, January 19, 2007, 2:16pm; Reply: 47
You are a type O, Rh-, non-secretor. Therefore, you need more protein than any other type, except a male of the same type. Also eat protein according to your size and activity level.

If you eat enough protein at meals it will keep you fueled and satisfied between meals, then you won't feel the need to graze through the day.

You definitely need to resolve any constipation problem you may have. That is not healthy. Are you drinking enough water between meals, using soaked flaxseed, using plenty of olive oil and ghee, eating any avoids, eating too many grains? You may also need to stimulate the liver to produce more bile, which acts as a colon lubricant, by drinking dandelion tea. There are also supplements which may help like probiotics.
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, January 19, 2007, 6:27pm; Reply: 48
Listen to MoDon!  :-)  !!!!
Posted by: shells, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 2:11am; Reply: 49
Thanks MoDon - I work as a massage therapist in an acupuncture clinic and have never  been overweight so rely on my food immensely.  Always have a large protein meal before work ususally eggs etc. plus smoothie, but the tiredness is usually mentally before physically - thats when I feel I need to replenish.

I guess when you've been so compliant you feel you should be rewarded by feeling on top of the world all the time  ::)

Have been totally grain & dairy free but will replace psyllium with flax seeds.  I have flax oil each night, fish oil in morn. and have already upped the evo but maybe not enough as my skin is still really dry (has been all my life).  Maybe this is internally also!  :-/
Posted by: shells, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 2:19am; Reply: 50
P.S.  I do take probiotics at night with my prunes & sups, but I will go & get dandelion tea.  I do take water everywhere I go as we live in a hot climate & is always beside me at work & on lola's recommendation ginger tea.

Thanks again  :)
Posted by: Alia Vo, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 2:28am; Reply: 51
shells,
Your body and health will all balance itself out eventually.  Stay compliant and stick to your beneficial foods.  Refer to the portion/frequency guidelines to ensure your body is getting the amount of foods it needs/requires.

It often takes experimenting, trial and error, and lots of tweaking to refine one's personal eating style on the BTD.

Alia
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Saturday, January 20, 2007, 7:18am; Reply: 52
Just wondering...is there a significance to eating prunes at night, or do you just like them?
Posted by: shells, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 7:59am; Reply: 53
Quoted from Tina
Just wondering...is there a significance to eating prunes at night, or do you just like them?


Three reasons:

1 - I like to take sups with some food
2 - I've always suffered with constipation
3 - I do really like them and could eat a whole  bag at one sitting!!!  :D
Posted by: Brighid45, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 3:14pm; Reply: 54
Okay, let's see . . . Current schedule is as follows. It changes with the seasons and my needs--I've found that works best for me. What can I say, I'm easily bored ;)

I'm usually up before dawn most mornings--just feel better if I'm an early riser. Upon waking I take my thyroid tab and plenty of water to wash it down.

On days off I go for a walk up the block and back. I'm slowly increasing my amount of daily exercise, but it has to be a slow process. If I push too much or go too fast, I end up back at square one. Frustrating for someone who used to walk 5 miles a day! But slowly I'm getting back to a good long brisk walk taken daily. One of life's true delights. :)

Shower up and put on clean clothes, then I write for at least two hours. Mornings are the quietest part of the day and about the only time I won't be disturbed by phone calls etc. This is my gift to me--I love writing and this really fulfills my need to create and be active mentally. (At work I do sudoku or crossword puzzles during morning break, or take a book to read.)

Breakfast: 1 1/2-2 cups of lacinato kale, sauteed in ghee/olive oil with onions and the occasional handful of baby bell (crimini) mushrooms, served with soft-set eggs or leftover beef. I take a B vitamin, bromelain and quercetin. On really bad days I might slip in some gabapentin, 100 mg, but that's only in case of real need. Ditto OTC analgesics. They are last resort only.

Mid-morning snack is usually an apple or pear cut in slices with some walnut butter as a dipping sauce. At work I just take a banana and a handful of toasted walnuts.

Lunch at home is fish or turkey. I LOVE sardines in olive oil on Wasa bread or in a bowl of buttercrunch lettuce with some hot sauce sprinkled over all. I also make a lot of salmon salad from canned wild salmon. Turkey vegetable soup is delicious too, especially on cold blustery days! At work I'll usually have leftover pot roast or steak with greens like collards or kale, whatever is easy to heat up. I sometimes take in a quart of homemade soup, keep it in the fridge and take out cupfuls to heat up. Very occasionally I'll make a Boar's Head top round roast beef or turkey breast sandwich with a slice of goat cheese and romaine lettuce on ezekiel bread with some sweet potato chips on the side.

Mid-afternoon snack--a banana or apple slices. Bite-size pieces of pot roast, steak, turkey or lamb wrapped in romaine or spinach leaves, if I'm really hungry.

Dinner--usually chicken or beef with steamed beneficial vegetables and a starch, often rice or potatoes. I just ignore the starch, which I make for my housemate K (an AB who does not follow the BTD). I've tried introducing more fish and turkey but K doesn't really like anything except salmon and that only very occasionally, so I'm stuck with the chicken/beef choice for now.

Evening snack is usually some trail mix with a little dark chocolate thrown in, but I try to stop eating after 7. The sole exception is the banana I eat at night so I can take my meds and supplements--500 mg magnesium, 400 mg valerian root, 160 mg/12.5 mg Diovan HCT.

I do not drink large amounts of water, preferring instead to get hydrated through the vegetables and fruits I eat during the day. I do like to have rooibos tea on hand (hot or iced) and always have a big glass of Edna's Berry Berry Good soda in the evenings after dinner. Currently I make it with Gerolsteiner, fresh pineapple juice, elderberry concentrate, and a little black cherry juice. Ratio is 4 parts mineral water to 1 part juice mix. Not too sweet, nice and fizzy! :)

Posted by: TypeOSecretor, Saturday, January 20, 2007, 7:28pm; Reply: 55
Generally for breakfast, I have a Vita-Mix smoothie:  Fresh bananas, pineapple, pure soy or rice protein powder, a 1-inch piece of seaweed, fresh kale, fresh parsley, fresh spinach.  I store it in a covered wide-mouthed Mason jar so I have enough for a few days breakfast and a small evening snack.
I generally eat some type of egg, but may also have a packet of Nature's Path Foods organic hot oatmeal (Costco had a large economical box and the added ingredients were OK for my blood type).
For lunch, generally I have a small piece of some type of beef (either roast or hamburger or steak), lamb, chicken or turkey.  I also have a mixed salad with vegetables, lemon juice and olive oil. Maybe a vegetable.
Evening, generally a smoothie and some type of snack - maybe a vegetable in season, like a sweet potato or butternut squash.  Maybe a piece of homemade jerkey.  It all depends on my mood.

Because of the unusually cold weather, recently I had made some homemade chili beans out of black beans.  There were leftovers.  For breakfast, I took a piece of Ezekiel toast or Ezekiel tortilla, a cooked egg, and poured some hot leftover chili beans on the top for several breakfasts.  My body seemed to love it.

Today I made a homemade spaghetti sauce (yum) added some cooked ground beef.  When I get home, I will make a lasagna as suggested on one of our recipes.  I will lightly soak some of those thin rice flour "tortillas" (I'm not sure what they are called) they have in the oriental markets.  Then I will layer with sauce and farmer cheese and mozzarella.  You could use vegetables instead of the cheeses.

When I get up, I drink a large glass of water with 1 tsp. Larch - take Nettles Leaf Capsule and Nettles Root capsule (part of menopause protocol devised by my N.D.).  I have the water at least 30 min. before eating breakfast.  Some time during day, generally early morning, I get quiet and read meditative books that get my mind on track.  For whatever reason, this works best for me and is calming.  I also sometimes do Yoga or Tai Chi.  However, today, I got up early and exercised with a program called "Hooked on Aerobics" - a 30-min program on Saturday mornings on the BYU channel.  I sometimes do this early Saturday morning.  I also do chiropractic stretches devised by my chiropractor once a week.

With breakfast, I take my other supplements (Fennel, Melissa, Avena Sativa Oats, and Black Cohash capsules - the rest of my menopausal regimen).  I also have a calcium supplement 5x/week and one vitamin capsule daily.  Two days a week, I take NAP supplements.  The other days I have other brands I use.  I just had bone density testing done and tested above average - don't have to worry about osteoporosis at 62.  If I am doing any of Dr. D'Adamo's protocols, I work my supplements into breakfast or lunch (or fasting periods if necessary).  In the beginning, I did several protocols for the recommended periods and left about 1 month resting periods in between.

I generally have a dessert some time during the afternoon or early evening -- an apple crisp or apple cobbler, a slice of cake, or a few cookies.  Before lunch I drink a large glass of water 30 min before.  In the evening, I may drink a glass of Seltzer water or Seltzer water mixed with apple juice or cherry juice.

Posted by: Alia Vo, Sunday, January 21, 2007, 1:30am; Reply: 56
Quoted from TypeOSecretor
.  Today I made a homemade spaghetti sauce (yum) added some cooked ground beef.  When I get home, I will make a lasagna as suggested on one of our recipes.  I will lightly soak some of those thin rice flour "tortillas" (I'm not sure what they are called) they have in the oriental markets.  Then I will layer with sauce and farmer cheese and mozzarella.  You could use vegetables instead of the cheeses.


This is a great idea for using Asian rice sheets in lieu of using wheat or spelt lasagne noodles.  Rice sheets would be compliant for all blood types and they can be adjusted accordingly to each individual's baking or lasagne pan.

Alia
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