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Posted by: A+Baby, Monday, January 8, 2007, 8:41pm
Hi y'all!!!

I recall seeing a thread here a while back about can juice and it's typebase value.  I can't seem to find it and need to know if it is an avoid/neutral/beneficial for me.  I have done a search and can find nothing!!  Nothing on typebase either (that I can see).  

Also, someone posted a website where you can order travel size packets of condiments (namely olive oil).  Anybody know what that website was?

Thanks
A+Baby
Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 8, 2007, 8:45pm; Reply: 1
avoid for Bs as far as I can recall....

Quoted Text
Dr. D
Question: Why no Sucanat for B's???

Answer: Raw cane sugar possesses a B-antigen
degrading enzyme
Much like certain preparations of soy. In
essence, the enzyme digests your blood type.
Not so good for the mucus of your GI tract. It
appears to be in the mineral (or ash) portion
of the food, which is much lower in the other
refined commercial forms. Prolonged boiling
(as in molasses making) inactivates it.

As an avoid it is only a Tier II value
(optional in otherwise healthy individuals),
so don't get too bent out of shape. B non
secretors may want to take this more seriously
though, especially if obese; and B secretors
if prone to gut permeability issues.


http://www.minimus.biz/
olive oil to go!  
Posted by: Don, Monday, January 8, 2007, 10:46pm; Reply: 2
Type AB may want to avoid it too.
Posted by: Gumby, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:07pm; Reply: 3
Resurecting this thread...according to the typebase, sucanat is an avoid for everyone.  I assume this applies to all forms of cane.  This is a tough one, as it is in SO many things.  It's the only avoid that I knowingly consume.  I just noticed it is in soy milk!  Hopefully only in small amounts.  It is a tier two avoid for As too, so I guess that is something.  For A secretors it says "Secretory insufficiency"...how bad is that in the range of bad things from avoids???  
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:22pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Gumby
It is a tier two avoid for As too, so I guess that is something.  For A secretors it says "Secretory insufficiency"...how bad is that in the range of bad things from avoids???  

The fact that it is a Tier 2 tells you it is not as bad as all the Tier one avoids. The standard line is if you are healthy, not recovering from illness or injury, not unduly stressed, needing to lose weight, etc and not Rh-, A2, or MM then it is OK to use Tier 2 avoids as neutrals.

Posted by: Don, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:29pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Gumby
according to the typebase, sucanat is an avoid for everyone.

Repeating form another thread I started: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?,v=display,b=Suggest,m=1170268050

I don't think the sucanat TYPEbase avoid value is correct for type O secretors.

I question it because for type O secretors sucanat is neutral in LR4YT and neutral infrequent in the Health Library books.

Posted by: Don, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:30pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from What is the difference between Sucanat and Evaporate Cane Juice?
http://www.wholesomesweeteners.com/brands/wholesome/Wholesome_Sweeteners_Organic_Fair_Trade_Sucanat.html
Both type of sugar begin the same way ... within 24 hurs of harvesting, cut sugar cane is crushed to extract the juice, water is added, the syrup is clarified and concentrated through heat and then dehydrated to make Sucanat or crystallized to produce Evaporated Cane Juice.

Sucanat (dehydrated cane juice) is produced from a pure cane sugar juice stream, which naturally contains about 13% molasses and 87% sugar.  Through dehydration and aeration, as opposed to evaporation, a granular, dry, free-flowing form of this juice is produced which contains all this natural present molasses.

Evaporated Cane Juice is produced not by dehydration and granulation, but by evaporation and crystallization.  The act of crystallization separates the majority of molasses.  This is unavoidable as the creation of a sucrose crystal is a very pure entity which retains a little molasses inside, but mostly the molasses coats to the outside of the crystal giving natural color and flavor, but far less concentration than that found in Sucanat.  The product is therefore much lighter in color and flavor and better for more sensitive applications where a molasses flavor is undesirable.  As compared to the 13% of molasses present in Sucanat, Evaporated Cane Juice has a range of 0.2%-2% molasses.
Posted by: Gumby, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 11:05pm; Reply: 7
Thanks for that info, MoDon.  I guess as a tier 2 avoid I can allow myself a little bit.  It's the only avoid I knowingly consume, and not in much quantity...only when it is an ingredient of something else.
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