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Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 5:32pm
I know there is a new nap product, and I'm glad its there if I can't get this thing in balance....but my blood sugar was 99, the uppermost score in the normal range.
I guess it goes without saying that you can't eat sugar. And maybe wine. Say it isn't soooooo! (Is it so?)
Or do you just have to balance it with protein, ala Barry Sears? (his wife says he eats pumpkin pie with a slice of turkey)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 5:48pm; Reply: 1
it is all about individuality......for many, red wine is beneficial.
I can t have more than a quarter of a wine glass very sporadically....I translate that as a neutral infrequent in my case.
everyone s different and should eat and drink accordingly.
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 8:06pm; Reply: 2
Lola, since "glass" is different when we drink wine, could you guess in oz. for me what you can drink? Do you mean 2 oz?
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 8:14pm; Reply: 3
yeah!  it s almost a joke, but it s true! real tiny amount!! lol
Posted by: italybound, Thursday, December 21, 2006, 4:47pm; Reply: 4
Jayney-O, IMHO 99 is nothing to worry about. Also what is your BS normally?
IF you are going to eat anything sweet (regardless of what it is sweetened with), then yes, please be sure to eat some beneficial meat protein before, after or with it. :-)
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Thursday, December 21, 2006, 7:40pm; Reply: 5
thank you , IB. That makes me feel better ...I have never had elevated blood sugar before.... and it makes sense to keep the sugars balanced with meat. (I once did the zone diet for a yr, it has some very good principles for those who need to lose weight. In fact, if only I had the discipline to combine the two...BTD and zone....I might actually lose.) (win)

In fact I might start a new thread about this.
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Thursday, December 21, 2006, 7:44pm; Reply: 6
Lola, that's not so bad, an actual pour is about 4 oz., though some pour 5 . At home I pour myself 3 or 4 oz max per drink (of wine)...3 in case I don't like it that much, 4 if I know its special. 2 can be considered medicinal.
Also I have heard of wine professionals, such as winemakers, etc. who say they now take only half a glass a day....2 or 3 oz. (actually I only heard of 2 who do that)
Posted by: MyraBee, Thursday, December 21, 2006, 8:35pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from lola
it is all about individuality......for many, red wine is beneficial.
I can t have more than a quarter of a wine glass very sporadically....I translate that as a neutral infrequent in my case.
everyone s different and should eat and drink accordingly.



It's translated into an absolutely avoid in my case--even Holy Communion sometimes makes me feel like kissing on somebody's neck!    :K) ;D :K) :K) ;D

Love,

My.
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Thursday, December 21, 2006, 8:57pm; Reply: 8
I know what you mean, myrabee....I'm over that now...(thank you lord)
Posted by: italybound, Thursday, December 21, 2006, 9:23pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from MyraBee
It's translated into an absolutely avoid in my case--even Holy Communion sometimes makes me feel like kissing on somebody's neck!    :K) ;D :K) :K) ;D


Oh Myra, thanks for the laugh!!! :-)
jayney-O, I did The Zone for a while too and did pretty well on it because I made SURE to have my fat and protein along w/ the carbs. I do have to say BTD is much better, but if I HAD to have a 2nd choice.................
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Friday, December 22, 2006, 8:18pm; Reply: 10
Seriously, IB, I have thought about zoning the BTD to lose weight. It doesn't have to conflict with the BTD at all.....its just very a very hard diet to do....that's why I like the BTD better...it's a lot easier! (and deliciouser!) But that zoning will melt the lbs off.
Posted by: italybound, Friday, December 22, 2006, 8:53pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from jayney-O
Seriously, IB, I have thought about zoning the BTD to lose weight. It doesn't have to conflict with the BTD at all.....its just very a very hard diet to do....that's why I like the BTD better...it's a lot easier! (and deliciouser!) But that zoning will melt the lbs off.


While I did like the Zone, I would never do it again. Their main premise is to have what was it 40/30/30   (protein/carb/fat)?   We can do that w/ BTD easily and also wouldn't be eating avoids. I remember on the Zone, one of the eat out foods I was allowed was a Soft Chicken Taco at Taco Bell. BIG AVOID!!! :-)   But not a bad diet if ya don't know about the best one - BTD!  ;D
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Saturday, December 23, 2006, 12:08am; Reply: 12
hmmmmm. yeah. You can't eat the stuff they recommend....
Posted by: Linda, Saturday, December 23, 2006, 2:44am; Reply: 13
And the prepared foods that they offer on their website are full of refined wheat and corn syrup :o

YUCK!!!
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, December 23, 2006, 2:50am; Reply: 14
I've never been on their website, but I do see their bars in the stores and yep, full of avoids. It is still amazing to me the things I have learned since starting BTD!!
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, January 27, 2007, 2:11pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from pkarmeier
Jayney-O, IMHO 99 is nothing to worry about. Also what is your BS normally?IF you are going to eat anything sweet (regardless of what it is sweetened with), then yes, please be sure to eat some beneficial meat protein before, after or with it. :-)


Jayney-O, when did you get this 99 reading? Was it first thing in the morning or after  a meal? Fasting BS should be 80-85 FWIU.  If your 99 was upon arising AND before eating, you might want to have a look into it further. Also, unless I missed it, you didn't mention what your BS normally is. That could have some bearing as well. :-)
  My BS has been around 90 (fasting) and once in a while higher. After talking w/ the NP, I am pretty much convinced THIS is the source of some of my headaches.  I've been monitoring my BS closely and am hoping to get it back to where it should be very shortly!! That prob has something to do w/ my emotional storms as well. LOL

please do be sure to eat some beneficial meat protein with anything sweet or starchy. :-)  Right now I'm going to avoid anything but VG. I have noticed for some time that even fruit seems to bother me. I'm 'hearing' possible 'candida issue' here as well. Was treated many years ago for candida, with that nasty powder that tastes like cigarettes ashes, Nystatin I believe it's called. :X >:(    I think it did help, what time I managed to gag it down, but I do think I need to get some 3Lac or something.
I purchased some of the Glycosia and have started w/ it, but not long enough to comment. My big thing is going to be staying away from sweets and starch.

Also, another big thing w/ BS issues, is to be sure to not only eat protein w/ any kind of sugar, but also fat. Fat slows down the absorption of sugar and in eating all 3 (protein, carb, fat), we are getting 'energy' from something constantly, as they all break down and metabolize at different rates. :-)  
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 1:08pm; Reply: 16
http://www.bloodsugar.com
maybe this can help ??
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:12pm; Reply: 17
Thanks HB. I'm also reading The Cortisol Connection Diet. What I plan to do is first read and understand it all, then incorporate their 'diet' w/ BTD. The one thing I strongly oppose in this book is that you can eat anything you want, it's just what you eat together and when you eat. Now that in itself is okay, because especially w/ BS issues, it's important to eat prot/carb/fat together and to eat often so as to keep your BS levels where they should be at all times. I'm almost half way thru the book and I do find it a useful too in getting things back under control. I'm having a tough time figuring out what to do to get my BS down, as I don't eat that much that I shouldn't and have been avoiding starches and sugar and yet they persist in being in the 90's. Guess maybe I could try 2 Glycosia 2 times a day instead of one?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:41pm; Reply: 18
and try not to think of cheese cake!!! LOL (no matter how compliant you make it!) ;)
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:46pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from lola
and try not to think of cheese cake!!! LOL (no matter how compliant you make it!) ;)


LOL, thanks lola, I've already forgotten about it. :-)  Seriously. The 'scolding' KK :K) gave me yesterday did the trick. LOL.  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 3:52pm; Reply: 20
;) just be a good girl!! :D
Posted by: mikeo, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 4:35pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from jayney-O
I know there is a new nap product, and I'm glad its there if I can't get this thing in balance....but my blood sugar was 99, the uppermost score in the normal range.
I guess it goes without saying that you can't eat sugar. And maybe wine. Say it isn't soooooo! (Is it so?)
Or do you just have to balance it with protein, ala Barry Sears? (his wife says he eats pumpkin pie with a slice of turkey)



drink fenugreek tea everyday and see if you can find fenegreek capsules and take as directed...it's known to lower blood sugar...Dr D recommended as well

Posted by: italybound, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 4:54pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from mikeo
drink fenugreek tea everyday and see if you can find fenegreek capsules and take as directed...it's known to lower blood sugar...Dr D recommended as well


so you're saying to drink the tea AND take the capsules?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 5:44pm; Reply: 23
either or.......
there s also a fenugreek sprout relish, used in Israel.....
a search will take you to the recipe, in a thread.

fenugreek is also present in curries.
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 8:07pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from lola
either or.......there s also a fenugreek sprout relish, used in Israel.....
a search will take you to the recipe, in a thread. fenugreek is also present in curries.


search came up w/ nothing............but I get that a lot.........if anyone has it, would be interested to see it. :-)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 8:35pm; Reply: 25
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=72647
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 8:53pm; Reply: 26
Thanks Lola, I think either my browser or firewall blocks stuff. It's really aggravating. Thanks again :-)
What does fenugreek taste like?
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 9:13pm; Reply: 27
It makes my sweat smell like vanilla, or maple ? ?  

ok, that doesn't answer your question!  :-)
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 9:24pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Victoria
It makes my sweat smell like vanilla, or maple ? ?  
ok, that doesn't answer your question!  :-)


well, no it doesn't answer my question LOL, but vanilla/maple sweat......nice :-) ;)
Posted by: resting, Sunday, January 28, 2007, 9:33pm; Reply: 29
Hi jayney-0,

a friend of mine told me a story of a person consuming dandelion-flower stems (10  each day) to control blood sugar.  This was so effective, that the person tied small bundles and stored them in a freezer.

never did it personally

John
Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 29, 2007, 5:01am; Reply: 30
it definitely is an acquired taste!!

very pungent, eaten alone.......
the relish, I have not had it yet, though.
Posted by: italybound, Monday, January 29, 2007, 5:35pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
a friend of mine told me a story of a person consuming dandelion-flower stems (10  each day) to control blood sugar.  


Having said this, would dandelion tea help as well? :-)
Posted by: KimonoKat, Monday, January 29, 2007, 5:47pm; Reply: 32
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Thanks HB. I'm also reading The Cortisol Connection Diet. What I plan to do is first read and understand it all, then incorporate their 'diet' w/ BTD.


I'm not familiar with this book or what the premise is, but I just want to remind you that Type O's don't have nearly the problem with this hormone that Type A's do.  So, something to consider while you are reading it.
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Monday, January 29, 2007, 6:18pm; Reply: 33
thanks, KK, resting, Mikeo, ItalyB, and all.....I may try some of these tea ideas...fenugreek and dandelion....(don't know about the stems....but it is certainly a natural remedy).
Posted by: italybound, Monday, January 29, 2007, 6:42pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from KimonoKat
I'm not familiar with this book or what the premise is, but I just want to remind you that Type O's don't have nearly the problem with this hormone that Type A's do.  So, something to consider while you are reading it.


This is more of a diet book, but it explains alot about WHY people can lose weight and then hit a plateau and sometimes never lose another pound or maybe even start gaining it back.
With my adrenal thing, it was of great interest to me, since it is directly related to cortisol and how it works in our bodies. :-)
Eww, JayneyO, glad you mentioned the teas!! Need to pick up  the fenugreek. :-)
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, February 4, 2007, 6:02pm; Reply: 35
can I bump this?  ;)
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