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Posted by: italybound, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 4:21am
I see in the Encyclopedia it says under beer for A's:
Provokes abnormal blood reaction.
No info on beer in LR4YT. (looking in Index)

I cannot put my hands on my Diabetic book, so I'm hoping I can get some answers here. What exactly does this mean and especially in relation to hypoglycemia. My DH had a headache and was dizzy tonight.  We both wonder if his intermittent hypo symptoms are related to the beer. Easy way to find out would be to stop drinking for a week and see, but I'd like to understand this for my self, if that could possibly be the problem. I didn't see any info on it in the ER4YT either. (Index)

Also if there are any A's w/ personal experience on how beer affects them, I'd love to hear. This would not pertain to hard liquor, as he never drinks that. :-)
Thanks so much. (sunny)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 4:25am; Reply: 1
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?470
a search will take you to many old threads on the beer subject.......
Posted by: 547 (Guest), Sunday, November 19, 2006, 12:21pm; Reply: 2
Hi IB!

I checked the LR and find that beer is for O and A  a type 2 Avoid...

So, unless you are nonsecretor or chronically ill, you must avoid Beer...

I checked the Diabetic book as well:

Beer is to be AVOIDED  for O and for A....

Sorry...

I myself am an A and if I do drink beer, I notice it immediately by bubbling, gorgling in my belly, but no pain..
I only drink a beer when I eat chinese food... Not the food from the shop, but I make my own...
Chinese food from the shop gives me diarrhea for 2 days..  It is not worth the fun of eating out, is my opinion..

Cocky 8)
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 2:38pm; Reply: 3
Can't tolerate it,way too many empty carbs, surprised it's even ok for an A nonnnie, I'm betting it will go back to avoid status in GTD.
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 3:26pm; Reply: 4
I know he should avoid beer  ::), but..............
I myself don't drink it.
I'm just trying to find out what reactions it causes in A blood type, specifically w/ someone w/ hypoglycemia.
And what does "Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins" mean?  :)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 3:45pm; Reply: 5
Heidi, on beer:
Quoted Text
the central culprit is
the alcohol from the malted barley; however,
the combination of grain carbs and alcohol (as
in beer and Scotch) and the addition of
carbonation (in beer) work together to produce
their synergy of troublesomeness.
Posted by: Don, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 5:03pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from pkarmeier
And what does "Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins" mean?  :)

Quoted from Dr. D
Flocculation is the process by which serum antibodies come out of solution and precipitate; similiar to when making 'rock candy,' the sugar comes out of solution and latches on to the string.

Flocculation is a clear sign of an antibody reaction. Most of the flocculation I report results from avoids reacting with anti-blood type antibodies.

Most flocculation reactions are 'anomalous', in that they require the presence of a primary high-affinity, non-precipitating antibody (which may or may not be blood type specific; more usually bacterial-induced) that must be saturated with the food antigen before the remaining 'conventional' (blood type specific) antibodies bind and precipitate the additional antigen.

'Flocculate' is an old Greek word, meaning to produce white cloud-like tuffs in solution.

Often these antibody/antigen complexes (or 'Immune Complexes') activate other latent parts of the immune system, and which can result in inflammation and auto-immune disease. This is often done by stimulating the body's complement system.

Flocculates serum or precipitates serum
http://web.indstate.edu/thcme/PSP/labtests/precip.htm
It makes the IgM antibodies found in your blood type clump up and come out of solution (precipitate)


Per Wiki: Flocculation


Posted by: Alia Vo, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 8:24pm; Reply: 7
As a blood type A, I do not drink beer and have no desire to drink it.  It has been ages since I have had an alcoholic beverag other than red wine.  I think the carbonation and fermention in beer would cause stomach disstress and disrupt and digestive system for a few days.

Alia
Posted by: Rodney, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 9:03pm; Reply: 8
I used to drink beer all the time & I am hypoglycemic this I found out about several years ago but took several more years to come with to grasp the fact that beer was BAD for me, BAD BAD BAD.
after I drank a few I would crave sugars of any kind I would usually eat some sweet stuff I would then be ok for a while then take a serious dive in energy and feel crappy. The next day I would be sluggish tired and extra thirsty and crave more sugars or junk food of any kind. It would take me several days to get back to normal. IT was hard for me to get away from beer but after I did it was so worth the benifts of feeling good and not having a messed up feeling stomach all the time.
a sip of white wine is now my drink of choice. Another huge work I practice is moderation in anything I eat or drink.
Posted by: 95 (Guest), Sunday, November 19, 2006, 9:17pm; Reply: 9
Drinking beer gives me a headache....and not 6 or 8. Drinking just one or two will give me a dull/lingering headache for a day or so.
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, November 19, 2006, 9:34pm; Reply: 10
Great info everyone, please keep it coming!!  :D(sunny)
Posted by: Drea, Monday, November 20, 2006, 12:05am; Reply: 11
As with most avoids, beer gives me constipation.
Posted by: italybound, Monday, November 20, 2006, 1:02am; Reply: 12
Quoted from outdoordrea
As with most avoids, beer gives me constipation.


Ha! My DH says w/o it, he gets constipated. Think it's all in his mind?  ;)(sunny)
Posted by: Drea, Monday, November 20, 2006, 1:15am; Reply: 13
When I was in Ireland, and I drank Guinness there, it actually helped me to go; but the beer they serve there is unpasteurized. You can't get unpasteurized beer here (as far as I know), unless you make it yourself. I suggest Polyflora A instead of beer for his constipation.
Posted by: Schluggell, Monday, November 20, 2006, 9:03am; Reply: 14
Quoted from outdoordrea
When I was in Ireland, and I drank Guinness there, it actually helped me to go; but the beer they serve there is unpasteurized. You can't get unpasteurized beer here (as far as I know), unless you make it yourself. I suggest Polyflora A instead of beer for his constipation.


Astute observation - virtually all beer is filtered, pasteurized, and/or sterilized other than a few American microbrews, British Ale, or Belgian Lambics...even the filtered beer acts differently in the body than good old homemade that still has the trub.
And if you ever get the chance to try beer made with water thats never been chlorinated and pumped through metal piping you will notice even more intriguing things.

Then there is the african Millet, Sorghum, and Teff beers. Buckwheat or Rye Beers.
Pumpkin Beer {made from Pumpkin NOT the Pie-Flavoured muck sold in stores}.
Posted by: Joy, Monday, November 20, 2006, 3:41pm; Reply: 15
I used to enjoy beer.  One or two at the most.  After I started the BTD my system just couldn't handle it any more.  If I had a few slurps I'm sure I'd be OK but I can't drink even one bottle.  I feel bloated.


Joy
Posted by: Drea, Monday, November 20, 2006, 3:46pm; Reply: 16
Bloated is a good way to put it. Beer does that to me as well. Unfortunately, I really like a good stout, so once in a great while I will indulge; even though I know what will happen.
Posted by: italybound, Monday, November 20, 2006, 4:10pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from outdoordrea
Bloated is a good way to put it. Beer does that to me as well. Unfortunately, I really like a good stout, so once in a great while I will indulge; even though I know what will happen.


Have you tried Deflect before and after? Just curious if it helps. (sunny)
Posted by: Drea, Monday, November 20, 2006, 10:48pm; Reply: 18
No i haven't; but that's an interesting thought.
Posted by: 476 (Guest), Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:40am; Reply: 19
I dont seem to have issues with beer and thats good because me and my boyfriend really love it, he is a AB secretor. But Im wondering if I should give it up since I went grain free to try and control my weight as well as my hypothyroidism, but I havent given up beer. It is something to think about and maybe my digestion will even out too. We will see, it might take me some time to decide. I wonder what any of you think.
Posted by: Schluggell, Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 9:25am; Reply: 20
Lager Bier makes me bloated {My theory: virtually all has been pasteurized and/or filtered} - Real Ale not soo much.
Stouts are not lagered.

My preference these days is for is Dry Cydre {Scrumpy} or Perry...they don't make bloated or  :X
Posted by: italybound, Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 1:06pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from JamieB
I dont seem to have issues with beer and thats good because me and my boyfriend really love it, he is a AB secretor. But Im wondering if I should give it up since I went grain free to try and control my weight as well as my hypothyroidism, but I havent given up beer. It is something to think about and maybe my digestion will even out too. We will see, it might take me some time to decide. I wonder what any of you think.


Wouldn't hurt to give it up for a couple of weeks and see if there is any improvement. If so, then there is your answer, if not, then have a beer!! LOL  :)

Drea, how much Polyflora a day would you recommend for constipation? :-) (sunny)
Posted by: Drea, Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 3:40pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from pkarmeier
Drea, how much Polyflora a day would you recommend for constipation? :-) (sunny)


I take one in the morning on an empty stomach and one before bed along with my second CalMag tablet (also hopefully on an empty stomach *lol*).
Posted by: italybound, Wednesday, November 22, 2006, 3:19pm; Reply: 23
Drea, I could just  :K)  :K) your feet (I think).  Re: your recommendation of using Polyflora for constipation. I was asking about that more for me than the DH. I took 3 last night and 3 this morning and a miracle!!!  I was just going to take some 'more drastic measures' today, now maybe I won't need to go that route. Will keep up the Polyflora and see what happens. I think my adrenals (or lack thereof LOL) have everything so out of whack, my body just doesn't have a clue anymore what it's supposed to do. I do, however, see brighter days ahead. (sunny)
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, November 22, 2006, 5:18pm; Reply: 24
IB, I'm glad it's working for you!

Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 22, 2006, 5:29pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from pkarmeier
Drea, I could just  :K)  :K) your feet (I think).  Re: your recommendation of using Polyflora for constipation. I was asking about that more for me than the DH. I took 3 last night and 3 this morning and a miracle!!!  I was just going to take some 'more drastic measures' today, now maybe I won't need to go that route. Will keep up the Polyflora and see what happens. I think my adrenals (or lack thereof LOL) have everything so out of whack, my body just doesn't have a clue anymore what it's supposed to do. I do, however, see brighter days ahead. (sunny)


I love that Polyflora too.  After many probiotics over the years, this one is the best!

And remember, Italy, prunes are beneficial for you.   ;D   8)
Posted by: italybound, Thursday, November 23, 2006, 12:49am; Reply: 26
Quoted from Victoria
And remember, Italy, prunes are beneficial for you.   ;D   8)


Oh if only I could. I love prunes but they're too sweet for right now. NP told me to limit really sweet fruit for now, with the adrenal failure and all. Sweet fruit, yep, THAT would be prunes. LOL.  ;) :K)
I'm going to give the Polyflora a few days to see if it is doing all I think it did (ha) and if so, then I'm going to pass the info on to my brother who is and has been having a problem like this, but worse and much longer. Check this out - his doctor has him on a thing that is - ready ------- psyllium husk and some type of gum :o  :o   Psyllium being a no-no for O's aside, WHY would you put those 2 together? Except maybe be assured you're going to keep selling it.  :-/
(sunny)
Posted by: Drea, Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 1:44am; Reply: 27
I hate to admit this but there was a lot of beer drinking going on over the Thanksgiving weekend, and much of it by me. I did remember to bring my Polyflora A and Deflect A and popped one of each first thing in the morning and last thing at night and also the Deflect by itself during my most beerful moments. I was not constipated, which was very nice; and since being home am still regular.

So in answer to your question, if the DH must drink beer, he should be popping those Polyfloras and Deflects right along with it. Worked for me.
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