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Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 8:59am
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Hi there,

Ive been on this blood type diet for ten days now,was preiviously on atkins,and im wondering has anyone else had a problem with bloating?. :-/
Ive not gained or lost weight and the only things i've added to my diet are:pineapple juice(200-300 mls a day),one banana daily,2 tablespoons flaxseed oil daily,1 piece essene daily and 3 servings each of rice and sweet potatoe weekly.
I was hoping to lose 2-3 kg and get healthy but instead i look like i have a basket ball up my top!.
Any help or suggestions would be welcomed.
THANKS  ;  ;D
Posted by: geminisue, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 11:00am; Reply: 1
Are you eating the right number of portions of your beef servings a week, are you eating greens.
I eat 1 sweet potato a month,maybe.  I eliminate white from my food (floor, rice, white potato, cauliflower, oats) These are either avoids or raise my glucose, which turns to fat.  I use olive oil (3 Tablespoons a day, even if I just pour it on my meat.  Or on my greens with a dab of fresh lemon squeezed and a tad of curry powder.

Plums are beneficial for us and so is ginger. (I cut up in a bowl 1 plum about 1/2inch ginger grated and 1or2 T water and microwave for 6 minutes) It is very good

I also toast pumpkin seeds(the green kernals) in a frying pan with olive oil in it in a single layer, med high heat(attend carefully) they crack and you turn them, golden brown is best but brown taste good to.  It goes fast! (I sprinkle sea salt and curry powder and cayenne pepper on top of the olive oil before adding the pumpkin seeds) Also, if you can, leave cool after you remove from pan, they are HOT!  I eat 1 oz almost daily.  

Are you also eating walnuts, they are very beneficial to "O's. (I am assuming you an "O" because of what you chose to eat in your first message.  This is advice for an "O".

Welcome! and Feel free to post and ask question, and if you go to the first box on the right you can click on it and get your avatar of your blood type posted along with a few other things you can check out.
Posted by: mhameline, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 4:15pm; Reply: 2
What blood type are you?  
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 9:13pm; Reply: 3
Hi Barbie,
Welcome to the Forum!  :-)
We really need to know your blood type in order to respond intelligenly to your needs.
Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 9:15pm; Reply: 4
Hi,
Thanks Geminisue,ive been eating all of that bar the plums and ginger but that sounds good so i'll try it!.From what you wrote im thinking i'll cut down on the rice and sweet potatoe(boo hoo,such a treat after being on atkins).

And yes im an 0+
:-)
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 9:18pm; Reply: 5
Barbie,
For the most part, the O's on this forum seem to have the best success with weight loss when they are eating grain-free, and getting their carbs from vegetables and fruits.  It's also recommended to get a hearty breakfast of meat and vegetables instead of a carb breakfast.
Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 10:00pm; Reply: 6
Thanks for that,
So im better off to have sweet potatoes than rice and if so how many servings a week if im trying to lose weight.
At the mo this is what im eating:

Breakfast:1 essene bun with half a banana and a green tea
Snack:smoothie,200 mls pineapple juice,half banana,4 strawberries and 2 tablespoons flaxseed oil.
Lunch:leftovers from dinner or a small salad with lemon and olive oil.
Snack:walnuts and almonds
Dinner:Steak and salad,sweet potatoe
Glass of red wine
Cup of green tea before bed,and lots of water throughout the day!

Am i on the right track? :-)
Posted by: geminisue, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 10:37pm; Reply: 7
Where's the veggies, there's a lot to choose from.

Lunch - Hope leftovers was meat and veggies and you could have the salad too!

Sounds like your on the right track.  Keep checking around the forum. Blogs from archieves are fun to read especially when your new and wanting to learn.  There are many O bloggers.
Posted by: Alia Vo, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 11:56pm; Reply: 8
Welcome to the forum barbie.

Adding vegetables/salads to your meals may keep you feeling satiated and full; it will help to clear toxins and fat from your cells.  Vegetables are good internal cleansers that assist in moving substances and particles along in your digestive track.  

Beneficial vegetables are the only food group that are listed as 'unlimited' for most blood groups.

Does your current pineapple juice contain any avoids?  Fresh pineapple may aid with your current bloating challenges.

Alia


Posted by: 671 (Guest), Thursday, November 16, 2006, 12:10am; Reply: 9
Barbiepink, Welcome to the BTD and to the forums.  So I'm not repeating myself, please read my testimonial on the Testimonials Forum, Celebrating Today, for some newbie O advice.  I, too, have done the Atkins plan in the past and lost weight but gained it back when I increased carbs in my diet.  :-/ I now know that I can't eat the carbs I was choosing.  They aren't for me.  Have you seen the propane commericial where the propane guy says to the electric guy, "You and water.....not the best of friends."    ;D  Well, that's how we Os and the wrong carbs are.  I was very happy to be eating fruit but we must remember the quantity guidelines.  I do best to have my fruits in the evening as my snack.  This keeps me from craving more later because it's too late to eat anything after my smoothie.  I have my fruit, usually frozen banana, frozen blueberries and pineapple juice (diluted with water) and a teaspoon of freshly ground flaxseed,  around 8 p.m. and go to bed at 10.  I also love mango (never had it before BTD), plums, walnuts, etc. for a change.  Are you noticing what the smoothie ingredients have in common?  Beneficials!!  Starting and ending my day with beneficials really helps keep me on track.  The BTD is about being an individual so this may not work for you but trying different ways and not getting locked into a rigid plan is how you will find what works for you.  I look forward to reading more about your journey!   :)
Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Thursday, November 16, 2006, 2:20am; Reply: 10
Thanks for the advice everybody,i guess i'll just continue what im doing,but avoid the rice and see how that goes :-)
Posted by: Laura P, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 2:59am; Reply: 11
Yeah, I'm just going to say...............whoa.........carb overload, that is a ton of starches for anyone to eat especially an O.  After being on Atkins you need to slowly retrain your body to digest some of these things, fruit sugar as well. Don't go overboard, the O diet is not a high starch diet.........
Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Thursday, November 16, 2006, 4:09am; Reply: 12
Hi Laura,

Good point!,hadnt even thought about the starches,was so excited to be allowed them i think i went overboard.
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 6:10am; Reply: 13
Quoted from barbiepink
Thanks for that,
So im better off to have sweet potatoes than rice and if so how many servings a week if im trying to lose weight.
At the mo this is what im eating:

Breakfast:1 essene bun with half a banana and a green tea
Snack:smoothie,200 mls pineapple juice,half banana,4 strawberries and 2 tablespoons flaxseed oil.
Lunch:leftovers from dinner or a small salad with lemon and olive oil.
Snack:walnuts and almonds
Dinner:Steak and salad,sweet potatoe
Glass of red wine
Cup of green tea before bed,and lots of water throughout the day!

Am i on the right track? :-)


I think that sweet potato is better than rice for you.  :-)

I have a feeling that for an O, and especially an O who wants to lose weight, your daily meals are sort of reversed.  

You would do better with meat, eggs or fish, and some vegetables for breakfast.  Or you could have your smoothie when you first wake up and your meat and veggies an hour later.
Lunch should also be a serving of meat or fish with lots of vegetables.
The evening meal would be a good time to have carbs, such as sweet potato.  I have sweet potato, ghee and fish for my evening meal, but then, I'm not an O.  

All those carbs for breakfast will make it very hard to lose weight.  And I don't think you're getting enough protein on the diet your described, and I agree with LauraP, too much carbs for you.  An Essene bun is a lot of bread.

Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Thursday, November 16, 2006, 6:30am; Reply: 14
Thanks Victoria,

I'll start afresh tomorrow and  see how it goes,Im thinking i'll have half an essene bun instead of a whole one , dilute my pineapple juice,add some more protien and cut out the rice and sweet potatoe.
What do you think?
I'll let you all know how it goes anyway :-)
Posted by: 1440 (Guest), Thursday, November 16, 2006, 12:09pm; Reply: 15
Hi there newbie, I'm one myself  ;D! I went stumbling thro the right mix of what to eat when...and it's so true to have meat protein with leafy greens for bfast & lunch and fish & starchy veggies for dinner. My fruit intake is between meals and as a snack. Lots of water, before meals but never during & immediately after meals. I dont eat anything after 730pm. Ghee & suppliments just before bed.

This forum is great, and the members are ever so ready and patient to guide you along. So please dont hesitate to ask for help & advice.

Welcome aboard!

-accidental chef
Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 2:38pm; Reply: 16
Hi Barbiepink:  Welcome to the BTD forum.  Lots of great advice above and being an O...don't I know it. ;)  Carbs...yep...need to get rid of them in the morning.  Even half the bun.  Eat it for your evening meal.   Protein and lots and lots of veggies.  Not just a small salad as you will find out for yourself.  We O's need it and...don't count calories.  When you are full...stop.  It will take you a long while before you are hungry again. :D

And...another important...exercise for your O type.  Soooo important.  ;)

Debra :)

P.S.  Another important is secretor status.  :)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 3:41pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Victoria
You would do better with meat, eggs or fish, and some vegetables for breakfast.  Or you could have your smoothie when you first wake up and your meat and veggies an hour later....

I agree.  While there is nothing wrong with what you are eating, I would suggest spreading the protein out more evenly so that it isn't all in the afternoon and evening.  O's really need to start out the day with some protein, and as Victoria said, you could have a fruit smoothie by itself (i.e., with no protein) first thing in the morning and then a protein breakfast an hour-ish later, but the point is to get some protein in there as soon in the day as you can.

Welcome, and good luck to you!  I think the BTD is way more customized than Atkins.  Once you tweak things a bit to resolve the bloating issue, you will probably be lovin' it!

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 3:44pm; Reply: 18
P.S.  I can't believe I forgot to add this:  please read the ingredients of the specific brand of essene bread you are buying.  While real essene bread, which is all sprouted, would be great, some brands calling themselves essene and, more commonly, ezekiel actually contain unsprouted, regular old wheat and if yours does, that would be the cause of the bloating, right there, me thinks.  If you do find out that your brand is a no-go, you may want to switch to a rice bread or a 100% rye bread, both available in most health food stores' freezer section.
:)
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 4:14pm; Reply: 19
I have seen bread labeled as all sprouted where one of the items added was wheat gluten!
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 4:37pm; Reply: 20
Barbie,
I don't see the need to give up sweet potato if you enjoy it.  It's one of the good kind of carbohydrates, and I think it's a better deal than any of the breads.  Veggie carbs are easier for your type O constitution to process, and the grains make your body think it needs to take them and make some fat.

But keep the carbs to the evening meal.  And up the vegetable intake.  Check out all the beneficial vegetables that you can steam, saute in olive oil or ghee, bake, and add to salads.  The more beneficials you eat, the better.  Neutrals can keep you "stuck in Neutral", as Peppermint would say.
Posted by: Don, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 6:17pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from barbiepink
Ive been on this blood type diet for ten days now,was preiviously on atkins,and im wondering has anyone else had a problem with bloating?.
...
I was hoping to lose 2-3 kg and get healthy but instead i look like i have a basket ball up my top!.

Try to be patient. Your digestive system has to adjust to your new way of eating. You might try using ginger in your cooking or ginger and/or peppermint tea to help calm your digestive system.

There are other supplements that would help too, such as Polyflora O probiotic.

If you investigate this carefully you may find that there is one or maybe a few foods that are currently causing the bloating trouble. You may need to avoid that food or those foods for a few weeks or even a few months until your system adjusts. I had a similar problem with plums and figs when I first started the BTD. The problem went away after about 4-6 months.
Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Thursday, November 16, 2006, 7:58pm; Reply: 22
Good morning everyone(it's 8.30am here,ive just taken the kids to school),

Just wanted to say its awesome getting all this feedback.It's shopping day today so im off to get some beneficial veges,lots of beef and some ginger!

Take care :-)
Posted by: 1342 (Guest), Saturday, December 9, 2006, 7:28pm; Reply: 23
i'm wondering how you are doing now, as far as the bloat is concerned.

i have had these issues all along despite being exceedingly compliant for many months.  i have terrible flatulence, too when it was never an issue before.  i am not tempted to go back as i'm seizure free without medication on this diet but this is ridiculous.  did you try deflect?  i'm on acidophillus and following an anti candida diet but no results so far and i'm hungry all the time. (i'm still breastfeeding so that's likely the reason).  somebody please, advise me.  i never had digestion issues before (beyond frequent constipation--and that is still constant--even with a family size bag of greens daily)  i started avoiding so many foods.  when do i get to free great or at least not embarass myself with gas?    
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Saturday, December 9, 2006, 8:07pm; Reply: 24
Heidi did suggest juicing as remedy for constipation in her column.  I'd do a search.

You should not be always feeling hungry.  Are you following the serving/frequency guidelines in Live Right?  As your energy needs will be higher while you are breastfeeding  I would be inclined to aim for the upper end of the range and see how that goes.  

Are you sure you are suffering with candida?

What greens are you eating?  
Posted by: 1342 (Guest), Saturday, December 9, 2006, 8:52pm; Reply: 25
first, let me thank you for answering.  i have been reading and searching this site daily since i've been on the diet but have been reluctant to complain about my symptoms for fear of being considered a naysayer.  THANKS!

i am eating primarily collards and spinach as my greens. i also eat a lot of broccoli, onions, ginger, squash, pumpkin. i've never eaten so much red meat in my life.  i am eating at least as much as my also compliant husband who is 6'4".  i'm 5'2" and am not over weight.  just feel that way from the bloat.

i'm not certain that i have candida issues but my spit test matched the criterion for that or parasites.  i've noticed that since i've initiated the anti candida diet my cravings for sweets have increased exponentially.  so, too as i already mentioned, my hunger (but i have experienced that for most of the time being on the diet.)  and i am EATING.  i even had my thyroid tested. i am having night sweats since doing the anti candida.  i'm wondering if it could be die off.  i just don't know if i can continue without fruits, nuts, grains while breast feeding. (not to mention occasionally sweets) i'm now attempting to follow food combining principles to cut down on the epic smelly flatulence.  so far there is no noticeable difference.  are there others who have had this much trouble?  i was basically a healthy person before i started my dietary quest but i can certainly attest to the increased energy prior to the yeast wars.  sorry so garbled--i have 2 of my kids wrestling in the background.

Posted by: barbiepink (Guest), Saturday, December 9, 2006, 9:43pm; Reply: 26
Hi there,My bloating has gone away(YAY!),i think it was just my body getting use to the diet.
Ive found i only have flatulence if i eat broccoli,maybe you could cut down on that and see if it helps.
If your quite hungry(i was like that with breastfeeding too),i find even a little brown rice fills me up :-).

Anyway good luck!
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Saturday, December 9, 2006, 10:47pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from neerdowell
first, let me thank you for answering.  i have been reading and searching this site daily since i've been on the diet but have been reluctant to complain about my symptoms for fear of being considered a naysayer.  THANKS!


Don't ever worry about not being taken seriously....

I am not sure I can help with candida issues but there are many very knowledgeable people here so hopefully somebody else will be able to help.  From skimming posts on candida it appears to be a longish process to get rid off.  

But here are some more general thoughts - I hope you will find some of it useful.

Are there any foods that make you feel more bloated than others?  If you do suspect a particular food I would suggest you eliminate that food for a week and see what happens - I know this means limiting yourself even more.  

Try to get hold of fennel tea - this is very helpful in relieving bloating and also very nice.  

Are you consuming enough fats - oil for instance?  Fats help to make us feel fuller for longer.  As you are not eating nuts you can probably have more olive oil.

If you are fighting candida you are probably not eating fruit - if you are eat it away from meals as this leads to bloating.  

It sounds as if you have a young family which probably keeps you very busy - if at all possible try to get in some exercise though.  This helps your digestion as well as help your body get better.  

Good luck.    
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Saturday, December 9, 2006, 11:11pm; Reply: 28
ps- it might be worse starting a separate thread with your specific problem - sounds like yours is a bit different from barbiepink's
Posted by: 1342 (Guest), Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:38am; Reply: 29
first let me thank you for your reply.  i have been visiting the forum almost daily and doing various searches but have been less than comfortable sharing my health complaints as they seem relatively pathetic compared to others.

i would say i am eating at the larger and more frequent serving end of the spectrum as i eat at least as much as my husband.  he is 6'4" and i'm 5'2".  and i'm not overweight, although the bloat makes me feel that way.  my greens primarily include spinach and collards in ghee.  i also throw down a lot of broccoli, onions, squash, and pumpkin.  and more red meat and fish than ever.  

i am not certain if i have a candida issue but i meet the cloudy spit test criterion for either candida or parasites.  and my sweet cravings have increased exponentially after i started avoiding such things as dried fruits, nuts, rice bread, and sugar.  so, too has my newly epic smelly gas, especially when i eat anything other than meat and greens.  could it be yeast die off?  as i mentioned i'm taking acidophillus and now i'm experimenting with separating starches and proteins.  and i'm starting to keep a frickin' food diary out of frustration.  i fear it becoming an obsession and although i've not been tempted to stray to major avoids my cravings for items off the anti yeast diet are becoming overwhelming.

ohyeah, i'm also having issues with night waking, night sweats and intensity and irritability.  what gives? --thanks for listening.
Posted by: 1342 (Guest), Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:44am; Reply: 30
much to my chagrin i just found that my first reply that i thought was lost was here all along.  of course not until i'd posted another. DOH!  so sorry.  i'm still learning.  koah, i just found your follow up replies, thanks.  i do work out normally 3 times a week doing cardio and weight training.   i may start a new thread as per your recommendation, too.  
Posted by: 1342 (Guest), Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:47am; Reply: 31
i'm glad it worked out for you,  barbiepink. i'm shooting for the same adjustment.  
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:49am; Reply: 32
neerdowell,
Are you on an anti-candida regime that involves herbal supplements?  What is your program like?

I have followed programs with a lot of strong herbal anti-fungal and anti parasitic herbs and I felt pretty lousy while taking them.  Also a couple of the herbs were avoids for me.

I approach candida differently now.  I feel that it is not a problem that will be solved once and for all, but rather an ongoing involvement with the way I eat, and trying to keep the right balance in my digestive tract.

If I try and totally eliminate fruits, and starchy vegetables, I would not be able to last long on the diet.  I try and stick with a small amount of fruits like blueberries and cherries, also sweet vegetables like parsnips, carrots and sweet potatoes.  I eat no sugar, no bread or cooked grains, no citrus fruit or strawberries.  I take the anti-candida enzymes if and when I notice symptoms of yeast imbalance, and it rights itself within a week or so.  Also the PolyFlora for my blood type and Intrinsia are two supplements that I find essential for my digestive health.  And I use ARA6 everyday.

Just another approach to the balancing act of the candida critters.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, December 10, 2006, 4:20am; Reply: 33
advice on food and suplements in the baby book is right on target:
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also check the protocols
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Posted by: Vicki, Sunday, December 10, 2006, 5:02am; Reply: 34
neerdowell,

hi there!  I just wanted to encourage you by sharing my story...I'm a Type A non-secretor and while A's don't do well with a lot of meat products (burns up our arteries), during breastfeeding, to keep weight on and not be hungry 24 hours a day, I ate 1 or more pounds of meat/fish a day!  I'm thinking that some days I ate 2 pounds of compliant meat/fish.  I ate turkey, lamb, chicken, salmon, sardines, etc.

I would caution not to focus on detox during nursing.  If you are eating a lot of meat/fish, definitely balance that with a good amount of green vegetables.  

How old is your child and congratulations on continuing your nursing relationship.  A great beginning for anyone in this world!  
Posted by: Debra+, Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:36pm; Reply: 35
neerdowell-to help you with your cravings...l-tyrosine. ;)

Debra :)
Posted by: Vicki, Sunday, December 10, 2006, 4:11pm; Reply: 36
One must be careful of supplements during breastfeeding.  
Posted by: 1342 (Guest), Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 1:35am; Reply: 37
thanks everyone for the advice.  i'm gonna try to chill and take it step by step, gradually--  and be less stringent for a while.  i won't be nursing my daughter for too much longer as she will be 2 too soon.  and then my tired old body will be all mine, to nourish and nurture. after four kids, it's time!  no worries over experimentation with supplements.  i checked everything in advance.  and i'm a big fan of 'less is more' except when it comes to information!  i'm trying principles of food combining to see if it reduces my issues of gas and slow transit.  i sure hope it works, my kids are coming up with embarassing epithets for me.    
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