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Posted by: Dale_TK (Guest), Monday, November 6, 2006, 9:53am
:)  Hi everyone!  I wondered how many of you with FMS/CFIDS especially, take the flu shot, but everyone else, please respond as well. Each time I took the shot I ended up with the flu. I know it is a dead virus, & I am not allergic to eggs.  The dr. who diagnosed me yrs. ago told me to never take the shot, but as I progressed with poor health I tried to protect myself.

I have taken it twice, no more. I have had people tell me it was a coincidence, that I had to have been harboring the virus & the timing was just perfect with the shot, but twice??   NOPE!!!  I won't believe that, but did finally find a dr. online who did say some people with immune dysfunction end up actually getting the flu from the shots.  Unfortunately he didn't explain it, & if it is a dead virus, I don't understand how it can produce the flu, so if any of you understand this concept, please feel free to explain it to me.  Thanks, & wishing you all a healthy flu season!   ;)  Dale
Posted by: geminisue, Monday, November 6, 2006, 11:15am; Reply: 1
I get the flu shot, I do not get the flu .
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, November 6, 2006, 11:32am; Reply: 2
nope... flu shot isn't anything for me ::) my last shot for tetanus was 15 years ago ....;D ...since then
I take care with BTD .....for my immunsystem :D (sunny)
Posted by: 547 (Guest), Monday, November 6, 2006, 11:38am; Reply: 3
Same to me!! No flushot for me!!!!

I never ever had a flushot in my entire life...  ;D ;D(sunny)(dance)(naughty)(naughty)

Taking care of my health with BTD and bromelain and elderberry, cranberry    ;D ;D

Cocky 8)
Posted by: Dale_TK (Guest), Monday, November 6, 2006, 11:41am; Reply: 4
:)  Thanks everyone. What a colorful bd. we created, did ya notice???  Keep staying healthy!  Dale
Posted by: Debra+, Monday, November 6, 2006, 1:47pm; Reply: 5
No flu shot for me either.  Never had it , never will.  My mom used to get it because she had a heart condition (Dr.'s recommendation) and would always get sick after.  Some of the people I babysit for get the shot and they have gotten sick each time.  Guess who is getting theirs again this year.  ::)

Debra :)

P.S.  It is like banging your head against a brick wall...they just haven't figured out it feels better when you stop. ::) :)

P.S.  As my nurse friend says "They won't let you put mercury in the ground, but they will let you put it in  your body."   :o ::)
Posted by: lstreat, Monday, November 6, 2006, 2:01pm; Reply: 6
No flu shots for me. I trust in the foods I eat and supplements I take to keep me healthy. So far so good-- :)
Posted by: ruthie, Monday, November 6, 2006, 2:07pm; Reply: 7
Back in the early 60's our whole family got the flu shots because everyone was scared silly about the Hong Kong flu ( I think that was the one).
My second husband whom I married in 1987 was astounded that I had not had one since, so I relented and allowed him to talk me into getting one.  He never failed to get one.  I may have had a couple more...but at some point I refused and have never given it a second thought.
All my friends in my age group think I have surely become senile when i say I'm not 'doing' flu shots.
PS--My husband died 10 years with kidney failure.
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: Debra+, Monday, November 6, 2006, 2:15pm; Reply: 8
ruthie-so sorry to hear about your hubby.  Yes, alot of my friends and family (not all as some don't get it either) think I am crazy for not getting it either.  But then again...I think they are crazy (actually, misinformed) for getting it.  ;)

Debra :)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, November 6, 2006, 2:56pm; Reply: 9
Nope, no flu shot here, and I can't believe the flack I'm getting over it!  I work at a blood bank and we had the opportunity to get the shot right here for free, so everyone kept asking me "Did you get the shot?"  "No."  "WHY NOT?", etc.  Then my own mom got on me about not understanding why anyone who had the opportunity to get one for free, no less, wouldn't opt to do so.

Well, um, see, here's the deal:  Last time I checked, I'm not in a high-risk group for dying from the flu.  I'm not an infant, I'm not a senior citizen.  I'm a healthy adult with a functioning immune system.  Soooo, if I get the flu, I get the flu.

What's the ever-lovin' big?

I mean, hellloooo, elderberry.  True, the flu is miserable and I surely hope I don't get it, but I'd rather have a week of misery than a shot that I don't need that will challenge and tax my immune system unnecessarily.  I haven't had the flu since 1987 (Shanghai.  Brutal.).  That is going on 20 years ago, people, and I've never had a flu shot in that time...I don't think I've ever had a flu shot, come to think of it.

If I had a baby, I'd get her/him the shot.  I'm glad my mom (82 years old) got the shot.  I don't need the shot, so why does everyone and their brother keep giving me a hard time about it?

Is it just me, or is it only recently that people are so wacked out about getting flu shots?  Do they not realize that it won't do Thing One for the avian flu?  Not gettin' the frenzy, but hey.  I am in a frenzy about plenty of things that most people do not get in frenzies over, so it all evens out.
;D
Posted by: Vicki, Monday, November 6, 2006, 3:49pm; Reply: 10
Use your consumer dollars wisely.  Fresh air, laughing, enjoying, stress relief, great food choices and if desired ARA, and elderberry (Proberry 3 syrup or Proberry caps, for instance).  
Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Monday, November 6, 2006, 6:48pm; Reply: 11
PT, I'm with you!   I think there is more pressure on people to get the flu shot than there ever was before.  >:(
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, November 6, 2006, 6:52pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from New_Hampshire_Girl
PT, I'm with you!   I think there is more pressure on people to get the flu shot than there ever was before.  >:(

It must have to do with the Birdie-Bird Flu scare, which is ironic, as the shot won't do Thing One for that thar.  Elderberry, baby, and keep 'er comin'.  

Posted by: Jane, Monday, November 6, 2006, 9:16pm; Reply: 13
I actually thought about it this year because I spend so much time visiting my mother at an assisted living facility.  I was allergic to eggs as a kid but I eat them almost every day now so I don't know if that would be a problem.  My doctor never mentioned it when I had my physical.  I have a coloscopy scheduled on Thursday.  If I'm not too out of it to remember to ask, I'll ask my gastroenterologist's opinion.  I'm not opposed to it if it really works.  If I recall, somewhere in one of Dr. D's books, he recommended some shot or another for some blood types.  Maybe it was the pneumonia shot ....???
Jane
Posted by: Melissa_J, Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:19pm; Reply: 14
I have noticed lowered immunity after getting the shot, but maybe I only got the shot when I had low immunity anyway.

Dr. D has suggested that if you're going to get the shot, you should get two doses, as it's more effective that way.  As have pretty good natural immunity to the flu.
Posted by: Dale_TK (Guest), Monday, November 6, 2006, 11:55pm; Reply: 15
WOW, I really started something!  SO great to hear all of your thoughts, & read the replies, thanks everyone!  Debra, I found it interesting how you know so many others who get sick after the shot as well!

I have read awful things about what goes into all these shots & has always made me wonder if that is why so many of us have other things wrong with us to begin with.  I knew a nurse who had two children. Both got the polio vaccine when it was the live virus yet. One was fine, one landed in a wheelchair the rest of his life. That says a lot about each persons immune system right there I would think.  

Elderberry, here I come!!    :)   Appreciate it all, & Ruthie, I'm sorry about your husband too.  Dale
Posted by: OSuzanna, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 2:05pm; Reply: 16
I have never regretted getting flu shots, as I get the flu predictably without them. BTD-style P.S.....I got the flu (skipped the shot last year) a week after starting the BTD this year, and for the very first time in my life, was able to naturally -no antibiotics for after-flu bronchial miseries- recover in record time with the clearest lungs I've ever had!!
Will have to look up Dr. D's 2-shot mention....
Posted by: Vicki, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 2:23pm; Reply: 17
OSuzanna, I suspect with the BTD and things like elderberry, you'll bypass the flu this year.  Your flu just after starting the blood type diet would be part of moving to a healing time in your body.  

The flu shot contains mercury.  Mercury will cause a depression of the immune system.  The flu shot is big bucks for the pharmaceutical companies.  
Posted by: Mickey, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 2:55pm; Reply: 18
I've never had a flu shot.  I figure that it's best to leave the shots for people who really need them.  I'm one who doesn't even like to take an aspirin.  Since i am healthy i don't need one (flu shot that is).  It's funny because i just thought about the last time i got the flu and i don't think i've had it since i started the BTD.  I used to get several colds a year, i haven't had a cold in years, thanks to BTD!.  ;D
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 8:13pm; Reply: 19
this is recommended for Os:
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000294.htm
Posted by: RedLilac, Wednesday, November 8, 2006, 3:50am; Reply: 20
I never get a flu shot, neither does my son.

Last year in my office they offered it if a certain number signed up.  Not enough did.  One guy was aggravated and said if I didn’t get a flu shot and he got the flu it was my fault.  Sorry buddy, he gets sick 4 times as much as I do.  Even when the bug gets to me, I only get very slight symptoms hardly noticeable, just enough to let me know I was exposed.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 8, 2006, 6:06pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Arlene
One guy was aggravated and said if I didn’t get a flu shot and he got the flu it was my fault.  


;D You can't change someone who is locked into "Victim Consciousness" !
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 5:17pm; Reply: 22
We do not immunize our children and don't plan to ever, unless we travel internationally when they're older and it's for some reason required.  But even then we will have to be picky as my daughter is allergic to eggs.  

I had a lady tell me once, "If my son gets a disease, it's your fault.  You're putting all of us at risk."  I didn't really want to start an argument, but I said, "But if your son has had the shots, he won't get the disease, will he?  Or at least, isn't that what you're doctor has told you?"  She had nothing to say to that.  I think it blew her mind.

To my way of thinking, having read way too much (or just enough, as the case may be), and having worked with special needs children (some of whose parents KNOW their children's problems began as a direct result of a shot), I'd rather have my children take chances with a virus or bacteria than dealing with the possible (probable?) side affects of the immunizations.  That may be dangerous to say, but right now that's our position.  My children have amazing immune systems and I see no reason why they would get a horrible disease.  Diseases don't hit everybody.  They pick and choose their victims.  If we stay as healthy as we possibly can, and reasonably protect ourselves with herbs and no sugar (especially during high-sickness seasons), we shouldn't have to worry about it.  Every year when all our home schooling and home churching friends get colds, we don't.  They're all into "health food" (defined in our circles, generally, as grinding your own whole wheat and eating a piece of (non-organic) fruit every day.  Yet they get sick and stay sick and get immunizations and still get the flu and can't understand what's going on.  But it's too much trouble, they all say, to do anything as drastic as the BTD.  Does it matter that we don't get sick?  No....they'll take sickness over a diet change.  Blows my mind, but everyone is entitled to their dietary decisions.  There is one other family who doesn't get sick very often either--they do all herbs and no shots and organic food.  Maybe for them it's the organic food and healing herbs that makes the difference, or perhaps it's because they haven't had shots which lower their immune systems.

Makes me wonder how much of my ADD and dyslexia as a child was caused by reactions to shots.  I know my brain cleared up and I was able to concentrate after I quit wheat and dairy (when I was about 20), but I still wonder if some of it was caused by immunizations.  Do a little research online and you'll come away very educated.....and maybe a little afraid of the aweful things they put in shots and the horrible problems (even death) that they can cause.
Posted by: Colleen, Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 5:41pm; Reply: 23
I have had a flu shot a couple of times in the past but not this year.  I've learned that right now I'm allergic to eggs so I'm keeping them out of my system as much as I can.
Posted by: Olerica, Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 10:42pm; Reply: 24
I won't get a flu shot this year.  I have in years past working in a hospital, and got sick both years... really, really sick...but it's been 6 or 7 years.  Haven't really been sick since... just a day in bed, and who couldn't use a day off of work sometimes.

I found it funny that the local news made a big deal about getting the flu shot this year as there is enough not to cause a scare... but that if we didn't we wouldn't incent the drug co's to make enough next year.  WHAT?  Seriously?  Ok, so if I don't get a shot this year you might not make enough next year... and how is this MY responsibility?  I think that they like panic... panic and fear are darn good ratings.

I don't buy into it.
Posted by: northstar, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 5:12am; Reply: 25
One year, the boss announced everyone had to get a flu shot. That year I got the flu. Next year, the same announcement, being an "A" that follows the rules, I got the shot and again I got the flu.  >:(

No more shots for me!!  :X And I have not had the flu since! (fifteen years later.)  :P
Posted by: MyraBee, Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 8:22am; Reply: 26
I got a flu shot, and a poo-mone-ya shot several weeks ago.  Per Dr. D's suggestion, I also plan on getting an additional flu shot in a couple of weeks.

Ribbet, I understand your caution about immunizing your children; I'm sure you came to that decision after much deliberation.  

As a Boomer, I remember actually having measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, as well as lining up for the Salk Vaccine administered in a sugar cube with the rest of our community.  I also remember the absolute sense of relief that the horrible effects of polio were going to be a thing of the past.

Love,

Myra.
Posted by: Dale_TK (Guest), Wednesday, November 15, 2006, 8:42am; Reply: 27
It truly is amazing how much knowledge we have gained about innoculations. There are many times I too wonder, if that is what affected my health so badly. Most of us will probably never know.

I have met so much opposition when I tell people I have gotten sick with the flu shot. It is nice to see others agreed with me, that they did too, but unfortunate it happened to them as well.   Wishing all of you continued good health.  Dale
Posted by: RHTeacher, Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 12:53am; Reply: 28
I work at a school and am encouraged each year to get a flu shot but I never do and I can only remember being sick one time with the flu.  I usually joke around and say, "What, and give up a perfectly good sick day?"  I also think that the elderberry keeps my immune system strong.
Posted by: Dale_TK (Guest), Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 5:33am; Reply: 29
:)   Nice to see so many refusing the shots, eating well & staying healthy. Happy holidays to all of you!   Dale
Posted by: Howard, Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 6:54am; Reply: 30
I got the flu shot 4 of the last 5 years. The only time I didn't I received one from a naturopath I knew. Yep, I got the flu, over the holidays, that year! Go figure. Yes, I got one this year.
Posted by: 972 (Guest), Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 1:18pm; Reply: 31
I as well got the shot 1 time years ago and was sick with the worst Flu ever.  I was sicker then when I had broncitis and pnemona twice.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 3:22pm; Reply: 32
I have nver had the shot and I don´t think I will.
Here it is mainly people over 60 that are adviced to get it.
My grandma B got really sick from it - so she decided not to have it agin- while my dad AB had it with no problem.
I think it is an unnatural way the world is going- now we can´t even "afford" to be sick once in a while ????
I would say yes to the shot if I was seriously cronic ill- but othervice I think it is unhealthy.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 4:04pm; Reply: 33
No flu shot here.  Haven't had the flu since 1987 (Shanghai flu, very baaahd).

Elderberry rules!
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 5:55pm; Reply: 34
Interesting PT!  I take 2 of Dr. D's Proberry capsules every day and more if I feel like I'm coming down with something.  I love the stuff!
Jane
Posted by: 828 (Guest), Thursday, December 7, 2006, 7:38pm; Reply: 35
I experimented after missing the flu shot that year it was not widely available and not getting sick as much that winter.

When I take the shot I have more general illness, starting about 6 weeks after the shot.  When I don't take the shot, I don't get sick as often.  I do have a compromised immune system (from Epstein-Barr and other illnesses).

Jucelino Nobrega -- a "seer" from Brazil -- says that the bird flu will hit Brazil Between September 19, 2006 and Nov. 26th, 2007.

He says that in 2011 the bird flu virus will mutate and take hold world-wide, killing 800 million people.  MAYBE I'll get a flu shot that year, but I doubt it will help.  

In order to survive experts are recommending that people should go inside and not come out of their houses for three months once it starts to spread.
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Saturday, December 9, 2006, 11:04pm; Reply: 36
Here in the UK the shot is generally only offered to old people and those that are vulnerable due to other health issues...

Imagine my surprise when I received an internal email at work offering the flu shot to all our 8000+ staff in the UK...

The penny dropped eventually - Jan/Feb/March is our busiest time and they would sooner pay for 8000+ peole to get immunised than not have enough people working to get through the ridiculous work load...

As for me I am not having one...if I get ill I will have worked plenty hard before and after to deserve my time in bed...not that I plan on getting ill ;)  
Posted by: 1495 (Guest), Sunday, December 10, 2006, 12:09am; Reply: 37
Flu shots contain mercury which can make Fibro and CFS worse.
Posted by: Debra+, Sunday, December 10, 2006, 3:56pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from AfricanTypeO
Flu shots contain mercury which can make Fibro and CFS worse.



Like I said before...they won't let us put it in the ground, but they want us to put it in our bodies.  ;) ::)   I think I get enough from the fish I eat. ;)

Debra :)
Posted by: KevinNJ05, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 12:33am; Reply: 39
Don't get the flue or any type of vaccine shots they contain a preservative with 49% mercury.  Hmm could this be contibuting to the increase in Autism.  Ahhh I think so.  Read the book Evidence of Harm I forget the author's name but when you read it you will be pissed at how this country coverups harm and protects big money machines like drug companies.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 1:10am; Reply: 40
definitively!

also infant death syndrome .......
B types are more susceptible it seems.
Posted by: 707 (Guest), Sunday, January 7, 2007, 2:27pm; Reply: 41

Never had one. Don`t usually get the flu either.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 3:02pm; Reply: 42
Type B's are more prone to SIDS?  I hadn't read that.  I keep reading SIDS articles about brain swelling and a mysterious inability of the infant to wake up when he's not getting enough air, but they never address what CAUSES the problem in the first place.  Anybody who's done a little research on immunizations knows that shots can cause brain swelling (as is evident by the high-pitched screaming and holding the head if they're old enough).

Another excellent book specifically about the DPT is "DPT:  A Shot in the Dark."  It'll get you all worked up about the horrors of not only mercury but other toxins they put in the shots but blindly deny problems of.  I got a free copy of Parenting Magazine yesterday and was reading about a new vaccine they're just coming out with, and on the back of the page listed under "a partial list of ingredients" was aluminum.  They didn't list mercury (now that they've taken it out "as a precaution"), but it still contains aluminum!  My husband watched in amusement as I tossed the magazine in the garbage and fumed, "Every article in that magazine is the complete opposite of what we believe."  He said, "Let's call it the Bad Parenting Magazine."
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Saturday, February 10, 2007, 9:00pm; Reply: 43
I have heard that getting it regularly contributes to alzheimers!
Who knows?  All this is a motivation to keep healthy!
I got it only once that I remember at age 21 (or almost) & got a sore arm & was very tired.  We were supposed to get a booster, but I just couldn't do it!

The recommend it for over age 55.  I better not tell my age too loudly, altho I don't hide it normally!

Oh, certain chiropractors are accused of saying not to get the shot & that only adjusting can prevent the flu.  I don't believe that, but believe many healthy habits can help.  However, the shot proponents use that as an excuse to say to get the shot.  They should say that the chiros are not gods & shouldn't make such claims.  But surely, that doesn't mean the shot is safe!! [Is that what a 'straw man' is?]
SEA SALT & LIGHT,
Mrs "T"        O+
Posted by: Don, Saturday, February 10, 2007, 9:32pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from Mrs_T_O+
I have heard that getting it regularly contributes to alzheimers!

It probably would if the vaccine has any mercury preservative in it.

Posted by: 107 (Guest), Sunday, February 11, 2007, 2:48am; Reply: 45
I never get the shot, no way would my nonnie self take that lying down!  Or standing up!

Posted by: usaf (Guest), Sunday, February 11, 2007, 5:43am; Reply: 46
I haven't had a flu shot since 2002 and I haven't gotten the flu in that time either. I'm only just now starting the BTD.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, February 11, 2007, 12:35pm; Reply: 47
I got the flu the last time in Feb. 1983. I think the time before that was 1973.
Diet works!!
Hey Tina!  I thought you were a relative newbie & here I read 500 posts! Wow!
I'm glad you are enjoying the board.  I love it, too!

Welcome 'usaf.'  I appreciate the military & know they protect us from a lot of stuff we don't realize! Thanks!  You & spouse's blood types should make for some interesting eating & personality combinations with kids.....
S S & L,
Mrs "T"    O+
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