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Posted by: Susana, Friday, November 3, 2006, 5:03pm
Much of what I’m about to write I’ve done so before. I hope I do not bore most of you but I think I have reached a point in my BTD journey it deserves some looking back.

I first started the BTD on June 2002. I was healthy, in very good weight, active, happy… but, I was starting to get too attached to carbohydrates and I was searching for the best nutritional plan.

Within the first 2-3 weeks the reaction was sensational. My brain worked better and my body looked better. I guess I was feeling so good I did not what to feel the pain of abstinence from avoids. I fell of the wagon and have been on and off since.

My journey has been far from pleasurable. Not the BTD’s fault but mine. I wanted to be on it but A) I wanted the pleasure from avoids, 2) Hated feeling inferior to others that seem to deal perfectly with life eating what they please, 3) I was petrified of breaking something that was not broken. E.i what if not only do I suffer from not eating what I please but the BTD is wrong and I spoil my health (all the beef, no calcium from dairy, and no fibre from grains, no vit C from oranges and kiwi…)

As I progressed on the journey I started to develop an eating disorder. Basically every day I would stuff myself on wheat, dairy and coffee with the excuse I would start a healthy day “tomorrow.” But “tomorrow” never came. Actually it has now and thus this post.

I still do not know if the BTD is a bunch of boloney. I do not know if I am taking a serious health risk…

All I know is that I have been BTD compliant for 3 weeks (food and exercise) and I do not know what the future may bring. I know the present is absolutely glorious! And if it feels so good now, it is difficult for me to believe it can be harmful in the long run.

I am writing this post under the influence of avoids. Today I have indulged and it is why I know it is the last time I indulge unforced.

If anyone is interested on the specifics of why I BTD, my testimony called “Why BTD??” (pg. 6 on “Testimonial” threads) has all the details. The only differences are the fact that I am 2 years older, I have a few grey hairs again, and I have new blood work which, to my surprise given all the yoyo, is the same to what it was when I was 22 (fortunately, perfect!).

Now that I am a happy camper, I look forward to participate more positively on this forum.

:K)
Posted by: Drea, Friday, November 3, 2006, 9:57pm; Reply: 1
Welcome back Susana!

I will always be grateful to you for your suggestion of the "unbreakable" goal. I've upped my goal from 2 liters of plain water to 120 ounces of plain water, per day.

I have been struggling to get back to that place of feeling good and not eating/drinking foods that I know do me a disservice. I'm having whisperings of asthma for the first time in almost three years and I've gained a significant amount of weight around my midsection, which I can't seem to lose.

Oftentimes I change too many things, which makes it difficult to find the one thing that made the difference, so this time, I'm upping my water intake and that's it. Baby steps for me.
Posted by: italybound, Friday, November 3, 2006, 10:53pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from outdoordrea
I've gained a significant amount of weight around my midsection, which I can't seem to lose. .


I have gained some weight there as well. Unable to lose it. Have never had this problem before. Looking at a liver cleanse to start. :-)
Posted by: Alia Vo, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 2:49am; Reply: 3
Welcome back, Susana.

Thank you for sharing your BTD journey with us from your very starting date.  I hope that you continue with this lifestyle with much health and a sense of inner peace in your mind and body.

Alia
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 1:08pm; Reply: 4
Hi Drea,

Thanks for your warm welcome. So kind of you. You are always there for me. :K)

Glad the “unbreakable goal” works for you. It does for me as well.

Sorry to read you are going through a rough spot. A few issues with your post:

1)Since the summer, you have moved to a new house, in a new state, you are working on the house and seem to be moving rooms (fortunately you are an A and seem to be able to find your stuff), started a new shopping routine (completely different environment from before), have started your lessons again, you are living above 8000ft and you are indulging in unhealthy food/avoids.  All very exiting and your new environment seems unbelievably beautiful but, I wonder what your cortisol levels are… Can you guess the connection with the growth of your mid section.

How is your meditation/relaxation exercises coming along? Why have you increased your consumption of water? Without an answer (I am assuming) I would recommend you target more precisely your “unbeatable goal.” If I where you I would focus on meditation and relaxation exercercises. Finish the week first, the “unbreakable goal” can not be broken even if you change your mind.

2) “Oftentimes I change too many things, which makes it difficult to find the one thing that made the difference.” I have been there before often times. The only solution I have found is 100% compliance; food and exercise (exercise & meditation/relaxation for As) for more than 1 week. You may want to go cold turkey or take a couple of days. At this stage 1 thing is not going to do much. Perhaps meditation/relaxation but without food compliance I do not guarantee high probabilities of success, based on experience.

The light bulb event for me was, paraphrasing Lola and MoDon: “it is a matter on your belief on the BTD.” Do you believe it works or not? Think of it and full force ahead with whatever decision you take. It took me 4 years to make up my mind and am still here so you have time LOL! You have been on BTD longer than me so perhaps it is time for you to review your belief/commitment.

3) Regarding the shopping routine http://www.flylady.net/ has helped me greatly. In essence, I do a weekly menu plan, then “clean” fridge and kitchen cabinets (to note what and what I don’t have, then I go shopping. It seems time consuming but the more I get into the routine the better I become at it. And you being an A (supposedly good with lists LOL!) you should do much better.

Best wishes.
:K)
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 1:10pm; Reply: 5
Hi Alia,

As sweet as usual! :K) Thanks for your warm welcome and good wishes.

The best I can do (and plan on doing) is to putt the best of me towards compliance, the rest, I leave it to the program.

:K)
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 1:13pm; Reply: 6
Hi Italybound,

Sorry to head you are having trouble shedding new growth. bu**er!

How compliant are you? Food and exercise?

I hope it has an easy solution.

:K)
Posted by: Drea, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 3:36pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Susana
1)Since the summer, you have moved to a new house, in a new state, you are working on the house and seem to be moving rooms (fortunately you are an A and seem to be able to find your stuff), started a new shopping routine (completely different environment from before), have started your lessons again, you are living above 8000ft and you are indulging in unhealthy food/avoids.  All very exiting and your new environment seems unbelievably beautiful but, I wonder what your cortisol levels are… Can you guess the connection with the growth of your mid section.


WOW! When you put it all into perspective like that, it's no wonder! It's harder for the person living the life, day in and day out, to see the big picture. I thank you for taking the time to condense and remind me in such a loving way.
:K)

Quoted from Susana
How is your meditation/relaxation exercises coming along? Why have you increased your consumption of water? Without an answer (I am assuming) I would recommend you target more precisely your “unbeatable goal.” If I where you I would focus on meditation and relaxation exercercises. Finish the week first, the “unbreakable goal” can not be broken even if you change your mind.


My meditation is getting off to a slow start, but I am determined to persevere. I have been doing no relaxation exercises, but after your wonderful message above, I will start today. Last night, I slipped on some icy stairs and really wrenched my knee, so some relaxation exercises are in order for more than one reason. Also, thankfully I had some Traumeel on hand.

As for the water intake, I just don't feel that 2 liters are enough way up here. It's terribly dry, and over the last week or so, I've noticed my dry skin coming back on my fingers and feet. After having a conversation with my neighbor, I realized that I used to drink close to a gallon of water a day when I was at my best physical peak, and that was living at sea level.

Quoted from Susana
2) “Oftentimes I change too many things, which makes it difficult to find the one thing that made the difference.” I have been there before often times. The only solution I have found is 100% compliance; food and exercise (exercise & meditation/relaxation for As) for more than 1 week. You may want to go cold turkey or take a couple of days. At this stage 1 thing is not going to do much. Perhaps meditation/relaxation but without food compliance I do not guarantee high probabilities of success, based on experience.


I'm already fairly compliant, although I have to admit that when I go to other people's houses, I can hold out only so long before succumbing to temptation. Last night it was pepperoncini (spicy peppers in vinegar), and peanut butter white chocolate chip cookies (made from a frozen store-bought dough). I only had three pepperonicinis before the vinegar got to me, and two halves of cookies. Fortunately, and happily, my DH was there, too, and kept taking the cookie out of my hand, which is why I only got half of each. So really not too bad. I avoided the corn chips and the salsa. Oh, but I did indulge in a little egg salad that also had venegar infused pickles and juice and pepperoncinis and juice in it. Oy.

Quoted from Susana
The light bulb event for me was, paraphrasing Lola and MoDon: “it is a matter on your belief on the BTD.” Do you believe it works or not? Think of it and full force ahead with whatever decision you take. It took me 4 years to make up my mind and am still here so you have time LOL! You have been on BTD longer than me so perhaps it is time for you to review your belief/commitment.


This is a really good point, and I must admit that I absolutely KNOW that the BTD works for me. Reminding myself of that knowing each time I reach for a food will enforce that knowing. Excellent piece of advice.

Quoted from Susana
3) Regarding the shopping routine http://www.flylady.net/ has helped me greatly. In essence, I do a weekly menu plan, then “clean” fridge and kitchen cabinets (to note what and what I don’t have, then I go shopping. It seems time consuming but the more I get into the routine the better I become at it. And you being an A (supposedly good with lists LOL!) you should do much better.


I will look into your link a bit more. Because we live in the mountains on a very winding and steep road, traveling into town after a snow fall is avoided, if possible. Even with 4WD, people have slided around the corners and hit the guardrails, if they are not going slow enough. On dry pavement, the speed limit is 10-15 mph, so that should give you a picture...anyway, the reason I bring this up is that I've been stocking up on canned foods that are compliant. Also, we've been through one 18 hour power outtage already this Fall, and I'm not convinced there won't be others. We have a wood burning stove that can be cooked on, so that's good. I will work on compiling some recipes that can incorporate canned foods cooked on a wood burning  stove that keep me eating compliantly until...


Quoted from Susana
Best wishes.
:K)


Thanks again for taking time for me; you are a gem. This is exactly what I need to kick myself into gear. What a wonderful pep talk!
Posted by: Drea, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 3:42pm; Reply: 8
p.s. I also wanted to mention that when I increase my water intake, I feel more full more of the day and find that I don't snack or graze as much. I do have to pee more, though, but my body compensate for that over time (at least that's my experience).
Posted by: Janet, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 7:15pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from outdoordrea
p.s. I also wanted to mention that when I increase my water intake, I feel more full more of the day and find that I don't snack or graze as much. I do have to pee more, though, but my body compensate for that over time (at least that's my experience).


Oh Susana, it's so good to hear that you are back on track....now I know what you've been up to!!  :D  
I seem to get bored with the same old things....and then my sweet tooth starts throbbing  :o

A while back I started a thread, asking if it was possible to drink too much  water?
The hospital said yes, members here had advice re body weight etc. Anyway I cut back because of sodium levelsetc and felt better for it; I'm due for some fresh results on that soon.

Drea, like you I tend to snack and am a bit of a natural born grazer. Lately, my hot flushes (menopause) have so increased dispite using Progest E and black cohash....do I need more water above about 2 litres per day I wonder?   ??)

Posted by: Drea, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 7:27pm; Reply: 10
Janet, whenever I read that 'the doctor said this or the hospital said that', I am reminded that rarely do they believe in the BTD (which for me absolutely works). I take what the mainstream medical society says with a big chunk of salt. For me, I feel better when I drink more water; but remember that we are all different. I suggest trying a bit more and see how you feel. The key (which I have to relearn frequently) is to listen to our bodies.
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 7:36pm; Reply: 11
Janet, see if you can pick up the book called "Your Bodys Many Cries for Water", if you'd be interested.

http://www.amazon.com/Your-Bodys-Many-Cries-Water/dp/0962994235

You may be able to find it locally or for a better price on the internet. I went to check and see if there was any info re: menopause/hot flashes and water consumption and remembered it is at work. Sorry or I'd check it for you. :-)  It is a very good book. I need to read it again myself. :-)
Posted by: Drea, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 7:43pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from outdoordrea
Oftentimes I change too many things, which makes it difficult to find the one thing that made the difference, so this time, I'm upping my water intake and that's it. Baby steps for me.

I wanted to say that in addition to upping my water intake, I am also meditating at least once a day (aiming for twice), and adding one serving of beneficial grains per day. If I can fit in some yoga (as I did this morning and feel so much better for it), so much the better. The water and the meditation are both part of my "unbreakable" goal. Each day I renew my goal so that they both will become habit.

The grains issue has not been an easy one for me. While I am extremely happy for Twisty's accomplishments from going grain-free, that option doesn't seem to help me. I used to think I felt best on the minimum amount of grains per week for my type, but that's not working for me anymore, either (at least where the weight is concerned). So this morning I ate some cream of buckwheat cereal (organic) with some ghee, salt, and garlic powder. Usually I try to eat my grains in the evening, but it sounded good to me this morning. And yes, I am a bit tired but still have energy.

Now I'm off to town to do some beneficial grocery shopping. No avoid binging for me at the grocery store, however; not today.
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 8:16pm; Reply: 13
Hi Janet,

Thank you for your welcome. You appeared out of the blue at the right time. Thank you. Yes I have been through a lot. Taking the petals from so many daisies was exhausting me. Fortunately I made up my mind before finishing with the world’s resources. Life seems so much brighter now!

I am now determined to sit back and listen to the mermaids and NOT take action on their advice.

Have you galls checked this site: http://www.watercure2.org/  Perhaps if you ad some salt to your water you solve the hydration problem without drowning. I do not want to lose you.

Drea, I look forward to an improvement of your wellbeing. At least you are in the right environment. It must be amazing! Have you considered deciding ahead of time (eg. previous day after dinner) your meals and snacks so you recognize the mermaids as anything else and that way you do not need to fill yourself up with water.

Today at my mother in law’s I took a look at all the appetizers available. I chose one (the one with least avoids, fortunately my favourite) and had it. Other times I decide ahead of time that I am just going to have one piece/serving of each. In most occasions I have succeeded but then again my problem is not when I eat with others. My problem is when I am alone, no one to judge how much I eat :B.

Janet I hope your future visit to your GP is beneficiary for you. And all that issue is well behind you.

Take care,
:K)
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 10:23pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from janet

I seem to get bored with the same old things....and then my sweet tooth starts throbbing  :o


And what happens? What do you like? What don't you like?

:K)
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 10:37pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from outdoordrea

I wanted to say that in addition to upping my water intake, I am also meditating at least once a day (aiming for twice), and adding one serving of beneficial grains per day. If I can fit in some yoga (as I did this morning and feel so much better for it), so much the better. The water and the meditation are both part of my "unbreakable" goal. Each day I renew my goal so that they both will become habit.

The grains issue has not been an easy one for me. While I am extremely happy for Twisty's accomplishments from going grain-free, that option doesn't seem to help me. I used to think I felt best on the minimum amount of grains per week for my type, but that's not working for me anymore, either (at least where the weight is concerned). So this morning I ate some cream of buckwheat cereal (organic) with some ghee, salt, and garlic powder. Usually I try to eat my grains in the evening, but it sounded good to me this morning. And yes, I am a bit tired but still have energy.

Now I'm off to town to do some beneficial grocery shopping. No avoid binging for me at the grocery store, however; not today.


Good strategy with the "Unbreakable" Seems like a good way of creating a habit. I would guess you will acomplish it.

My story with grains is quite similar. I have been losing weight since April. It has been a very slow loss but... a loss (17 pounds) and I have been on the max of grains/week.

I just have them for breakfast. Sometimes 2 toast with ghee and marmalade or 1 toast ghee and marmalade after eggs. I always have 1-2 pieces of fruit before. I have been doing very well. The green tea wakes me up.

The other day I toasted the end of a mana loaf (small toast) for the leftover oil from the salad but I completely orgot about it.  :o Fortunately, it was still good so I had it with my dinner salad (delicious) and that was it. I did not go nuts for more. Some days I indulge in avoids some days I don't. But obviously it is not related to the breakfast toast. I plan to continue with them and if I want more, well, the deal is only or breakfst. "unbreakable"

:K)

Posted by: Janet, Monday, November 6, 2006, 9:28am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Susana


And what happens? What do you like? What don't you like?

:K)


Good question Susana!!
Chocolate...dark and smooth or just anything covered in it!!  ;D
It's not so much the issue, it's that I eat the whole bar, say, whilst cooking the meal and so enjoy it!!! And if I had 6 of them they wouldn't last long. The senseless thing is that my husband also has chocolate on the counter but I don't eat his...just what I've bought. Though I suspect that if we had a bar 'to eat between us' I would definately eat his share too.
Now as an A I am permitted chocolate but in moderation. The only way I cope with this is to not have any at all but then as I said 'my sweet tooth starts throbbing'!!!  ??)
Posted by: Debra+, Monday, November 6, 2006, 2:04pm; Reply: 17
Susana-welcome back.  Great thread going here.  Thanks for the tips all...and Susana...the flylady...again. ;)

Debra :)
Posted by: Susana, Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:35pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from janet

Now as an A I am permitted chocolate but in moderation. The only way I cope with this is to not have any at all but then as I said 'my sweet tooth starts throbbing'!!!  ??)


Hi Janet,

I tend to associate chocolate with liver and I thought of this for you: http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000137.htm. Perhaps this way you can prevent the sweet tooth from throbbing.

Best wishes

 :K)


Posted by: Susana, Monday, November 6, 2006, 10:38pm; Reply: 19
Hi Debra,

Thanks for your welcome and thanks for considering me a flylady 8)

Flylady… I do not remember who posted the site but I am forever thankful to that person. Back in March, at the height of my eating disorder it became tremendously helpful. It got me motivated to work so I did not think so frequently on binging. I started felling very good because things around me were starting to be more orderly, including my eating. With time, the binging has subsided significantly. You can imagine how grateful I am to whoever gave the clue.

Thank you,

:K)
Posted by: Debra+, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 12:10am; Reply: 20
I am not sure who it was either.  Maybe Lola.  She saves everything...in her computer...that is.  I did a bit of fly lady back in the spring, but I guess I wandered away.  Need to do it again.  At least, it isn't as bad as the spring time.  Looking forward to seeing you on here.  :D

Debra :)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 12:50am; Reply: 21
it wasn t me this time, Debra!  lol

don t blame me again!!! (j k)
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