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Posted by: MyraBee, Monday, October 30, 2006, 4:08am
OK.

I just finished my second attempt at eating pumpin seeds--this time home roasted with EVOO and dash of sea salt and I feel just like I used to when I ate Fritos!!

Oh my goodness, I feel terrible!  

Earlier this week I bought a small bag of Pepitos (think that's what they were called) in the Mexican Food section of the Grocery Store.  They made me feel sick, too--but they were roasted in a vegetable oil of undetermined origin, so I attributed my yuckiness to that.

I just drank about 24oz of Black Cherry Juice and it seems to be helping a bit...think I'll make some Pineapple Juice....right after I dump these Seeds From Satan into the trash can!  ;-)

I guess this was my Halloween Trick---It sure wasn't anything close to the treat I was hoping for!

Myra.

(I'm the one with the Green Face)
Posted by: yaeli, Monday, October 30, 2006, 4:55am; Reply: 1
Myra, just to make sure: did you roast peeled seeds?  :)
Posted by: MyraBee, Monday, October 30, 2006, 8:18am; Reply: 2
What?!!!!!  

I followed a recipe which said absolutely nothing about peeling the pumpkin seeds!  Did I actually eat the equivalent of peanuts in a shell, or almonds or walnuts or.....!

Oh my goodness, I really feel terrible now!

Myra.

(I'm the one with the Red Face)
Posted by: yaeli, Monday, October 30, 2006, 10:36am; Reply: 3
Didn't mean any offence!  :)  What I was thinking of is, that sometimes the shells are coated with some avoid.
Posted by: Brighid45, Monday, October 30, 2006, 12:58pm; Reply: 4
MyraBee--see if you can find the hulled seeds at your local health food or natural foods store. You definitely don't want to consume the hulls. There's eating plenty of fiber, and then there's eating brillo pads. ;)

Don't feel bad. I made the same mistake the first time I ever ate pepitas. Couldn't understand why people liked 'em, then someone showed me a hulled seed. Oops. *chuckle* Live and learn!
Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Monday, October 30, 2006, 1:15pm; Reply: 5
Myra...I did the same thing this week and it has taken days to recover...laughing but feeling stupid...
Posted by: Vicki, Monday, October 30, 2006, 1:16pm; Reply: 6
If you eat too many pumpkin seeds, it will give you diarrhea because it is a rich source of magnesium.  Hope you figure it all out!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, October 30, 2006, 1:50pm; Reply: 7
I love the shells when the seeds are fresh from the pumpkin.  Fresh roasted pumpkin seeds in the shell are one of my very favorite foods.

However, for store-bought seeds, the kind in the shell tend to be over-salted so much that I don't know who would like them because I am a salt fiend and I find them too salty.  And if I find something too salty, it is dern salty.  The brand of pumpkin seeds I adore is shelled and is called Eden Organic Roasted Pumpkin Seeds (I like the plain, salted ones, but they also have spicy and some other flavors, I think).  They are wonderful and it is about time some company came out with a decent brand of pumpkin seeds because, previously, the choices were either the drastically oversalted-in-the-shell kind, or the hideous RAW "pepitas" in the bulk section of the HFS---eeeeew!  No, one needs the seeds roasted, raw is NOT good.  Eden's roasted, shelled pumpkin seeds are great (and organic).

Still, though, for fresh seeds right from the pumpkin, they are delicious and a great source of fiber when roasted and consumed, shell and all.
Posted by: Drea, Monday, October 30, 2006, 2:39pm; Reply: 8
I am in agreement with Twisty. Fresh pumpkin seeds (meaning the ones you just pulled out of that pumpkin you are about to bake - or have already baked, depending on your method) with the shells still on, roasted in a bit of ghee and salt, are delicious. For other times, I buy the shelled (meaning no shells) raw pumpkin seeds from the HFS and toast them in a dry cast iron pan on the stove and pour a tiny amount of wf tamari on them at the very end. Yum! Tastes a bit like bacon.
Posted by: Vicki, Monday, October 30, 2006, 3:01pm; Reply: 9
PT, you like pumpkin seed butter but not raw pumpkin seeds?  Was it roasted or raw pumpkin seed butter?  I like raw pumpkin seeds but did not care for pumpkin seed butter.  
Posted by: Brighid45, Monday, October 30, 2006, 3:10pm; Reply: 10
Edenfoods roasted organic pumpkin seeds--YUMMM-O! Every O desk drawer or work cubbyhole should have some as part of an emergency ration stash. :)

Toast some up and throw 'em in trail mix. You will never crave peanuts again. I can't believe how much better trail mix is with pepitas.
Posted by: Debra+, Monday, October 30, 2006, 3:32pm; Reply: 11
Me too...first time I ever ate pumpkin seeds I had purchased them from the grocery store.  Besides having such a thick shell they were coated heavily in salt.   Now...I like my salt, but this was awful.  Love the ones from the fresh carved pumpkins for Hallowe'en...and the shelled organic ones from the  HF stores and organic pumpkin seed butter.  hmmmm...where are my carrots? :D

Debra :)
Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Monday, October 30, 2006, 3:38pm; Reply: 12
The ones that I consumed came from the pie pumpkin that I baked and then roasted and salted. I ate the shells too but did not do well with them at all. I normally eat the raw ones from the HF. I have never roasted them, will have to try that...but no more shells for me.
Debra, can one eat too many carrotts??? The palms of my hands seem to have a bit of an orange cast to them????
Posted by: Joy, Monday, October 30, 2006, 3:47pm; Reply: 13
Well, I just roasted a big batch of raw (hulled) green pumpkin seeds from WF.  Melted some ghee and mixed into seeds with a bit of sea salt.  Roasted in the oven at 230 for about 20 minutes.  Very good.  I would up the degrees just a wee bit next time (whatever method one roasts seeds they have to adjust for oven, burner, whatever to make sure they don't burn.  


Joy
Posted by: Debra+, Monday, October 30, 2006, 4:13pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from debi
The ones that I consumed came from the pie pumpkin that I baked and then roasted and salted. I ate the shells too but did not do well with them at all. I normally eat the raw ones from the HF. I have never roasted them, will have to try that...but no more shells for me.

Debra, can one eat too many carrotts??? The palms of my hands seem to have a bit of an orange cast to them????


You could always eat them with rubber gloves! ;)

Debra :)

Posted by: Brighid45, Monday, October 30, 2006, 4:42pm; Reply: 15
If you eat lots of foods with beta carotene in them--carrots, winter squash, sweet potatoes--your skin can turn a bit orange. It won't hurt you, you'll just look like you're using a bad tanning lotion or something. :) If you want to get rid of the orange color, just cut back on the carrots.
Posted by: Connect, Monday, October 30, 2006, 6:40pm; Reply: 16
I'm confused.  Are the green raw pumpkin seeds JUST the seed portion?  Those are the ones I always get at the HFS.  I soak them, then roast them in the oven at about 150.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, October 30, 2006, 6:47pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from connect14
I'm confused.  Are the green raw pumpkin seeds JUST the seed portion?  Those are the ones I always get at the HFS.  I soak them, then roast them in the oven at about 150.

Yes, those are the seed with the shell (or hull, as others are calling it) removed.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, October 30, 2006, 8:20pm; Reply: 18
I have a hard time digesting the seeds with the hull still intact. . just too much dry fiber for my body.  

And I'm with P Twist.  Eden roasted pumpkin seeds are the best I've found.
Posted by: MyraBee, Monday, October 30, 2006, 8:56pm; Reply: 19
How much fun to read everybody's pumpkin seed story and/or method!  

But, because I've reacted badly twice, and don't really care for them, either, I think I'll just stick with my walnuts.  ;-)

Myra.
Posted by: 1507 (Guest), Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 9:25pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from MyraBee
How much fun to read everybody's pumpkin seed story and/or method!  

But, because I've reacted badly twice, and don't really care for them, either, I think I'll just stick with my walnuts.  ;-)

Myra.


I'm with you, Myra. I've tried pumpkin seeds (purchased seedless from the hfs), and I just don't like them. I hate to waste anything, so I've been trying my best to finish off what's left. Maybe I'll try baking them with some ghee as others suggest. They arent' bad tossed into a salad since the other stuff covers up the taste.

When I was a kid I loved the pumpkin seeds in the shells purchased from the store. I used to suck all the salt off, which was the best part in my humble opinion.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 1:12pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from rottlady
When I was a kid I loved the pumpkin seeds in the shells purchased from the store. I used to suck all the salt off, which was the best part in my humble opinion.


In order to glue the salt to the shells they often use moistened flour together with the salt before roasting, and that's the whole trouble.   :X

Posted by: Debra+, Wednesday, November 1, 2006, 1:25pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from yael_p


In order to glue the salt to the shells they often use moistened flour together with the salt before roasting, and that's the whole trouble.   :X


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That dreaded wheat again!!!   :o ::) ;)

Debra :)

Posted by: MyraBee, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 12:35am; Reply: 23
Well, just another comment on this thread......I was in the HFS last week-end and noticed some raw, shelled pumpkin seeds with nothing added.  I decided to give them one more try since they are a Bene for me---and guess what?!

They did not make me sick!!  I can't say that I loved them--but I at least liked them--and will occasionally have them again.

This ongoing figuring-it-out story sure gives a lot of creedance to food additive and processing cautions, doesn't it?

My.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 2:50am; Reply: 24
Sounds like a good product for you in it's natural form like that.  It's good that you persist in playing detective so that you can find out  what works/what doesn't and WHY.
Posted by: Alia Vo, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 3:48am; Reply: 25
Personally, I think purchasing raw, organic pumpkin seeds are a great healthy investment when shopping at a HFS as opposed to buying commercial pre-packaged
pumpkin seeds.

You can toast raw pumpkin seeds on the stovetop or in the oven.  Add your own spices and other condiments at home to jazz them up: wheat free tamari, sea salt, dry mustard, tumeric, cumin, seaweed flakes, chili peppers, olive oil, ghee, or anything one desires.

Alia
Posted by: MyraBee, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 6:38am; Reply: 26
Alia,

Is it OK to eat them raw?

My.
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 1:34pm; Reply: 27
Yes, I normally eat them raw. I also like to just soak and dry them.
Posted by: Alia Vo, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 7:12pm; Reply: 28
I almost always eat pumpkin seeds raw, but I always first soak them overnight.  

I like the simple taste of pumpkin seeds with no additional flavorings.

Alia
Posted by: Brighid45, Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 11:22pm; Reply: 29
I like pumpkin seeds raw but they sure don't like me, so I soak them overnight and roast them gently, the same process I use with nuts. Yum! I keep a bag of them in my cubbyhole at work and when everyone else is munching Cheez-Its or Combos (which used to be my favorite savory snack), I grab the pepitas and munch too. :) Add some cayenne and tamari--woooo! Good stuff!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, December 22, 2006, 2:42pm; Reply: 30
1.  fresh, roasted, salted pumpkin seeds in the shell = one of my top five fave foods

2.  raw pumpkin seeds =  :o  bird food alert!
Posted by: shells, Sunday, December 24, 2006, 8:17am; Reply: 31
After opening raw pepitas from the HF store I always refrigerate to keep flavour and crunchy freshness intact - maybe they don't have a long shelf life without their shells?
Posted by: Alia Vo, Wednesday, December 27, 2006, 6:14pm; Reply: 32
Any shelled nut and/or seed such as shelled walnuts, pumpkin seeds in the shell will have a longer 'shelf' life because its natural covering protects it from bacteria, oxidation, natural light.

Refrigerating or freezing nuts and seeds (especially larger quantities) upon purchasing them is a good measure to keep them fresh.

Alia
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 10:46pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from Brighid45
I like pumpkin seeds raw but they sure don't like me,
I dragged this thread up as I was searching for pumpkin seed info... I ate some raw & altho' I loved their simple taste & crunch, I seemed to react with very slight indigestion (only when I went to bed some hours later) I also got usual inflammation on face reaction, but not till morning - usually it an be within half an hour ::)
Not sure if that was also because I had bought them from a bulk bin (who knows how fresh?) & also had not thought to keep them in the fridge...(*duh*) They are also medium on the salicylate list so could be a factor too :-/
I ate them with mackerel, as I felt like I needed the B vitamins...Was a yummy meal!! What sort of reactions do other people get?

Quoted from shells
After opening raw pepitas from the HF store I always refrigerate to keep flavour and crunchy freshness intact - maybe they don't have a long shelf life without their shells?
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Thursday, February 23, 2012, 5:55pm; Reply: 34
I've had some very severe diarhhea from eating pumpkin seeds- have read they have some kind of effect on intestinal parasites.
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Thursday, February 23, 2012, 6:40pm; Reply: 35
Here are my favorites available at my local grocer: Go Raw brand

http://www.goraw.com/products/Sprouted_Pumpkin_Seeds

Individuality always at play! After reading this post, I am thankful not to experience diarrhea since I eat pumpkin seeds daily, and that I'm not orange since I eat sweet potatoes each day as well!

A favorite pumpkin seed treat: pop a square of dark chocolate in mouth and toss in some pumpkin seeds. Yummy.

I also add them to muffins and love them in salads. I also have made pumkin seed pesto with spelt pasta.
Posted by: Penster, Friday, February 24, 2012, 12:22am; Reply: 36
Funny that. I had diarrhea the other day and wasn't sure what it was from. Now I know!
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, February 24, 2012, 9:24pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from Penster
Funny that. I had diarrhea the other day and wasn't sure what it was from. Now I know!


Yes, pumpkin seeds expel parasites:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027875_pumpkin_seeds_parasites.html

Posted by: PrincessMia, Monday, February 27, 2012, 2:08am; Reply: 38
As an A, I have been making myself  what I thought was a healthy mix for snacking. As an explorer, peanuts and pumpkin seeds from my mix are avoids for me. Many other things as well I discovered are now avoids as well. I will miss them. :'(
Posted by: Pixu, Monday, February 27, 2012, 9:46am; Reply: 39
PrincessMia, are you following SWAMI or the GT book? I get pumpkin seeds as superfood in my SWAMI.
I had some last night and got big time stomach pain :( had to take Deflect before bed and this morning - DD had a stomach flu this weekend, I wonder if that's it?
Posted by: 18139 (Guest), Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 11:07pm; Reply: 40
Hi, I am new to this site and was hoping to get some help.  I am also type A- and was pegged as an explorer based on the books tests. I don't know my secretor status (can't seem to get it here in BC Canada). However, when I did the strength test in the book, I tested evenly with Teacher, Explorer, and Warrior!!  I am so confused and really don't know where to go from here. I keep seeing SWAMI a lot on the site. What is is and why would it give different results than those from the tests in the book?  Can your genotype change over time? Please help!
Posted by: chrissyA, Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 11:52pm; Reply: 41
Hi Fran76 - Hope this helps  ;)

Quoted Text
SWAMI is really fantastic!!! You know how the GenoType takes a bunch of information and puts you in a classification? Well SWAMI takes even more lots more and runs you through a computer matrix system. The result is an individual diet, designed just for you. You'll notice when you look around the forums, we all seem to have different food options, even though we may be the same blood type or geno type - that's SWAMI! A diet as individual as you are  

When you purchase a SWAMI, what you receive in the mail is an access code, then you go online and it has you enter a bunch of information - some is time-locked, some you can go back and change again and again as you gather the goods. It asks for your personal health history, family medical history, that kind of thing. It has room for tons more information that you probably won't know, but that's okay, whatever you input will be enough, so don't feel like you won't get the full benefit because you have to leave a lot of blanks.

This is an example SWAMI : It's very sophistacted, but extremely easy to use. I was completely intimidated at first, but it turned out to be a lot of fun!  

http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm

Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 11:53pm; Reply: 42
Hi Fran!! Sorry you are confused (I can understand that) Swami is especially good apparently for people like that...Nonnies (non secretors & explorer types) It is a computer programme you buy that you input your details into & it computes your strength testing for a particular genoptype, but it is really a combo of & unique to you!!
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, May 25, 2012, 2:58pm; Reply: 43
I'm starting to wonder how I will ever be able to tolerate them.  I don't have a bad reaction every time but when I do wow- up all night with diarhhea!
Posted by: Conor, Friday, May 25, 2012, 4:50pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from 14442
I'm starting to wonder how I will ever be able to tolerate them.

Hi Sahara, have you tried the brand Wholefoodie posted previously? When I don't make my own from the raw seed, it's the only brand I trust.
Quoted from Wholefoodie
Posted by: veggiequeen, Saturday, May 26, 2012, 6:30am; Reply: 45
Hmmm... this is an interesting thread...

I have been eating pumpkin seeds for years and never noticed any negative reaction at all. And now SWAMI also says are diamond...

But I have to eat pureed food right now, or things that break up without grinding anyway. (Have braces on teeth to move them to support new jaw position needed due to TMJD and don't now have a 'splint' that fits to enable me to chew... probably another 6 - 9 months before I will be able to chew well! :o )

Anyway, the other day I pureed some GoRaw sprouted pumpkin seeds, moistening with a little walnut oil (which I eat all the time with no problems). And have had it in the fridge to eat now and then.

Yesterday I had a really busy day and short on time to eat, so I spread some of the p.seed 'butter' on a couple slices sprouted spelt bread and snacked on that over a 4 hour period in the evening while working...

And this morning I woke up to diarrhea pretty much all day long. Didn't connect the dots until reading this thread just now!

Since I never had this reaction to pumpkin seeds before, I'm guessing it must be because I didn't have much other food to eat all day. Probably just overkill on the p.seeds, hmm? Or someone above mentioned an effect on parasites? That doesn't sound good. Or maybe it IS good and they were expelled??  :-/
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, May 26, 2012, 6:42am; Reply: 46
Sounds feasible? I do find it awfully hard (& I'm pretty sure I recall I am not alone here) to tell the difference between a good effect (as could be in this case) & a bad reaction :-/
Posted by: veggiequeen, Saturday, May 26, 2012, 6:54am; Reply: 47
Yeah, it can be puzzling... but I think I will decide not to stress out over it!   :)

It does remind me though, that restricting my food intake can be a bit 'un-balancing'.  ::)
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, May 26, 2012, 3:21pm; Reply: 48
Quoted from veggiequeen
Yesterday I had a really busy day and short on time to eat, so I spread some of the p.seed 'butter' on a couple slices sprouted spelt bread and snacked on that over a 4 hour period in the evening while working...

And this morning I woke up to diarrhea pretty much all day long. Didn't connect the dots until reading this thread just now!

Since I never had this reaction to pumpkin seeds before, I'm guessing it must be because I didn't have much other food to eat all day. Probably just overkill on the p.seeds, hmm? Or someone above mentioned an effect on parasites? That doesn't sound good. Or maybe it IS good and they were expelled??  :-/

It sounds like it was possibly a combination of too much reliance on this one beneficial food and it's healing effects on you.  As long as you felt OK even with the D, it was probably a healing episode and good for you.
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Saturday, May 26, 2012, 3:35pm; Reply: 49
In my case I tried coconut oil earlier in the week which set things off.  I don't like pumpkin seeds much so won't  worry.  Once in a while I pick up the commercial roasted David's seeds, its one of the few snacks at the convenience store.  The reaction was really bad though.
Posted by: veggiequeen, Monday, May 28, 2012, 6:42am; Reply: 50
Quoted from ABJoe
It sounds like it was possibly a combination of too much reliance on this one beneficial food and it's healing effects on you.  As long as you felt OK even with the D, it was probably a healing episode and good for you.
I think that is a pretty good perspective... in fact, I think regular use of pumpkin seeds might be a good way to 'up' my magnesium naturally now that I am also supplementing with Vit D3 (though not calcium). Should be able to avoid constipation that way... just need to NOT overdo it!  :P  :)

I didn't feel great with the d, but I got some extra rest and fasted a bit and felt much better when it was all finished...  :)

Posted by: veggiequeen, Monday, May 28, 2012, 6:53am; Reply: 51
Quoted from 14442
In my case I tried coconut oil earlier in the week which set things off.  I don't like pumpkin seeds much so won't  worry.  Once in a while I pick up the commercial roasted David's seeds, its one of the few snacks at the convenience store.  The reaction was really bad though.
SWAMI tells me 'no coconut oil'. Apparently only O-non is able to have it? Do you know your secretor status?

I also like Eden foods organic p. seeds, though they are roasted...  :)

Posted by: Conor, Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 1:41am; Reply: 52
Quoted from MyraBee
I can't say that I loved them--but I at least liked them--and will occasionally have them again.

Hi MyraBee, don't know if you've already tried this but I've found that I like to use raw pumpkin seeds in salads. They take on the flavor of the dressing pretty well, especially oil-based ones, and add a nice sort of semi-crunchy texture to a salad.

(And, not that it's thread-related, just wondering if you're a Jayhawk or a Wildcat fan?)
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 3:41pm; Reply: 53
I feel better this week so I think I'm going to keep using them.
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