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Posted by: Lisalea, Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 11:29pm
I love ketchup but unfortunately it's an avoid for me ... what can i replace it with ???
Thanks alot !!
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 11:47pm; Reply: 1
a non tomato sauce and adjust according to taste
Posted by: Lisalea, Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 11:56pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from lola
a non tomato sauce and adjust according to taste


Hi Lola !!
I meant ketchup to eat with frenchfries once in a while ;)
Posted by: carlzwench, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 12:08am; Reply: 3
If it's only once in a while, why not splurge!   ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 12:16am; Reply: 4
that s what I meant for replacement...a non tomato sauce.......
Posted by: Lisalea, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 11:37am; Reply: 5
Quoted from carlzwench
If it's only once in a while, why not splurge!   ;D


True
LOL

Thats what i do actually ;)
Posted by: Lisalea, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 11:38am; Reply: 6
Quoted from lola
that s what I meant for replacement...a non tomato sauce.......


;D
Posted by: Alia Vo, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 7:44pm; Reply: 7
Lisalea,

An alternative might be pureeing some fresh pimentos into a ketchup-like consistency in a blender.  Add some fresh lemon juice for the tartness, compliant seasonings and spices to your own liking; and sweetener, if desired.

Pimentos are neutral for all blood types.  They make a nice tomato and pepper substitute if these vegetables are avoids for one's blood type:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?308

Alia
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 8:42pm; Reply: 8
I use plumchutney it taste pretty good with eggs- I make it myself with tart dark plums, onions, spices , vinegar and sugar and that is good
Well I am European so ketchup with fries is not my thing! - but mayonaise ;-D
Posted by: Lisalea, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 10:57pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Alia_Vo
Lisalea,

An alternative might be pureeing some fresh pimentos into a ketchup-like consistency in a blender.  Add some fresh lemon juice for the tartness, compliant seasonings and spices to your own liking; and sweetener, if desired.

Pimentos are neutral for all blood types.  They make a nice tomato and pepper substitute if these vegetables are avoids for one's blood type:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?308

Alia




WOW ... great idea  ;D
Thank-u
Posted by: Lisalea, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 10:59pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
I use plumchutney it taste pretty good with eggs- I make it myself with tart dark plums, onions, spices , vinegar and sugar and that is good
Well I am European so ketchup with fries is not my thing! - but mayonaise ;-D




Oh that plumchutney sounds DELICIOUS ... yummii
Thanks ;D
Posted by: eh, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 11:18pm; Reply: 11
...this may sound wierd to you but here goes anyway. Mash a banana into the pepper sauce. It'll thicken and sweeten it without adding too much in the way of flavour. It's a common ingredient in some store bought South East Asian chile sauces/ketchup here. It's probably a cheap filler/thickener that's commonly available but it seems to work beautifully. Add sweet paprika to deepen the red colour.
eh
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:16am; Reply: 12
great tip, thanks! )
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:29am; Reply: 13
I think there is a recipe for a tomato free sauce that is made from beets and carrots in the Recipe forum.  Posters who have tried it say they can't tell that it's NOT tomato sause.

Posted by: Lisalea, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:34am; Reply: 14
Quoted from KimonoKat
I think there is a recipe for a tomato free sauce that is made from beets and carrots in the Recipe forum.  Posters who have tried it say they can't tell that it's NOT tomato sause.



Oh My God ... Really ???????
Thanks alot ;D!!
Posted by: Lisalea, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:35am; Reply: 15
Quoted from eh
...this may sound wierd to you but here goes anyway. Mash a banana into the pepper sauce. It'll thicken and sweeten it without adding too much in the way of flavour. It's a common ingredient in some store bought South East Asian chile sauces/ketchup here. It's probably a cheap filler/thickener that's commonly available but it seems to work beautifully. Add sweet paprika to deepen the red colour.
eh


What an amazing idea !!!! God bless u  ;D
Posted by: 95 (Guest), Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:44am; Reply: 16
I printed off both recipes for ketchup and am meaning to try them soon.

Quoted from Henriette_Bsec

Well I am European so ketchup with fries is not my thing! - but mayonaise ;-D


Now what is the recipe for a compliant fake mayo??
That is my weakness...especially on fries. (and I'm a Southern US girl)  ;)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:56am; Reply: 17
use tofu instead of egg ..........makes a nice mayo type treat......
Posted by: typebdiet, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 1:18am; Reply: 18
I agree.  I really miss ketchup.  I've accepted that sometimes I just have to add it, even if it is an avoid. I use Annie's Naturals brand, since it doesn't have corn syrup in it like most other brands.  That way at least I'm not getting THAT avoid.

But mayo, salad dressing, kethup, etc., are all a problem, too, because of the oils in them.  I've just accepted that if I'm going to have a small percentage of avoids, it will be to make things like salad have some taste to it.

Gail
Posted by: Lisalea, Thursday, October 12, 2006, 12:10pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from typebdiet
I agree.  I really miss ketchup.  I've accepted that sometimes I just have to add it, even if it is an avoid. I use Annie's Naturals brand, since it doesn't have corn syrup in it like most other brands.  That way at least I'm not getting THAT avoid.

But mayo, salad dressing, kethup, etc., are all a problem, too, because of the oils in them.  I've just accepted that if I'm going to have a small percentage of avoids, it will be to make things like salad have some taste to it.

Gail


So glad to hear from u, we understand one another ...  ;)

Life is short hence, at times we just have to fulfill our cravings !!
hehehe
Food is a great pleasure of life so why not indulge once in a while ??...
W're lucky to have the upperhand knowing and discovering the BTD however; we're still humans trying our best ...

Thank-u for sharing, it makes my journey a little easier knowing that i'm NOT the only one having a hard time on some days ... i do try to eat BENEFICIALS everyday though so that's a good thing !!

;D
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, October 13, 2006, 10:18am; Reply: 20
Well the ketchup is not so much a problem for me but the tomato on pizza !
Last night I just gave in and made a nice homemade pizza with spelt and tomatoes ! I enjoyed every bit !
I had less a reaction that I remember - but maybe it is beacouse I have been eating real clean food for along time. OR the fact that it was  a combo of spelt and tomato and not wheat and tomato !
Normally I opt for natural tomatofree pizza-. like with potatoes, cheese and rosemary or blanco just with lots of cheese or spinach and cheese.
The no tomatosauce from recipebase works fine in lasagne and in meatsauce- but I do miss the fruityness if I eat it alone on pasta or on pizza.

Mayonaise, dressings ???? well I agree on not freaking out on small amounts of avoids- BUT weird oils REALLY seem to freak me out so I make my own using 50 % olive oil 50 % grape seed oil- It is not ideal but I canīt stand the 100 % olive oil version- it is too bitter!

I feel happy that I am a B sec- so I can eat cream and creamcheese etc it makes it easier to make weekend food :-D
Posted by: 758 (Guest), Friday, October 13, 2006, 2:21pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from eh
...this may sound wierd to you but here goes anyway. Mash a banana into the pepper sauce. It'll thicken and sweeten it without adding too much in the way of flavour. It's a common ingredient in some store bought South East Asian chile sauces/ketchup here. It's probably a cheap filler/thickener that's commonly available but it seems to work beautifully. Add sweet paprika to deepen the red colour.
eh


Thank you for the tip! I've never thought of it before. It sounds excellent! ANd will be tried as soon as possible.

I really liked tomato sauce with garlic on fries of potatoes, eggplants, fresh peppers...I occasionally cook fries, and when I do, I'll use your recipe.

Okay...How about using it for "menemen" as well; a meal of tomatoes, fresh green peppers and eggs on top. (Lola, you know "mememen", I'm sure!) Or for "banduri", which is prepared by tomatoes, rice, and minced onions.

Betul
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 13, 2006, 6:26pm; Reply: 22
Betul,
sure I remember mememen (didn t know it had so many ms......!!!!  lol)

here in Mexico, we have something similar........using green chiles instead of the green peppers........called 'Mexican style beaten eggs' ......(huevos revueltos a la Mexican)
afietolsun!! xo
Posted by: san j, Friday, October 13, 2006, 9:49pm; Reply: 23
Polker's Burgers (local restaurant) routinely serves Ranch dressing with its fries. And it's good, so maybe you'll consider some sort of Ranch-substitute while you're considering your Ketchup substitute!
Posted by: Drea, Friday, October 13, 2006, 11:31pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Page
Now what is the recipe for a compliant fake mayo??
That is my weakness...especially on fries. (and I'm a Southern US girl)  ;)


I just posted about making compliant mayo that tastes very close to Best Foods. The thread is called Good Salad Recipe. You can also access it HERE - reply #4.
Posted by: colojd, Sunday, October 15, 2006, 8:36pm; Reply: 25
I am also a B, secretor status not known, but I did stop eating tomatoes when I read ERFYT. I grew up on a farm and we always had a big garden of organically grown fruits and vegetables including tomatoes and I never seemed to have a problem eating them. I do now see that the Type 4 food database list shows that if you are a B non secretor, that tomatoes are a neutral. So if you can find out your secretor status and are a non secretor, it seems you can use ketchup occasionally without a problem.

Just a note on that though - when we do buy ketchup, we try to get the organic kind and a variety that does not use high fructose corn syrup as the sweetener. There is a brand we get at Wild Oats that does not have this corn syrup added.

Joyce
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, October 15, 2006, 11:12pm; Reply: 26
which brand is that? )
Posted by: colojd, Monday, October 16, 2006, 12:23am; Reply: 27
The one we have right now is "Naturally Preferred" brand Organic Tomato Ketchup; distributed by Inter-American products, Inc, Cincinnati, OH. They show an 800# on their label 1-800-697-2448 and their website as http://www.interamericanproducts.com

Ingredients are :organic tomato puree, organic sugar, organic white vengar, sale, organic onion powder and organic spices.

Has only 2 g of sugar and 150 g of sodium but is not bland at all. Given the incredients and the low sugar and sodium levels, we immediately found it a better choice than the normal ketchups. Costs a little more but that seems typical right now with the organic products.

After I thought about it, we got it either at Wild Oats or at our local Kroger affliate store in their ketchup section. The Kroger store is now adding a lot of organic items to their regular inventory.
Joyce
Posted by: Lola, Monday, October 16, 2006, 3:24am; Reply: 28
thanks! )
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