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Posted by: Brenna, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 10:07am
Where does the b type blood originate or what areas of the world are they more dominant?
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 11:15am; Reply: 1
Hi Brenna - check this out :
http://www.bloodbook.com/world-abo.html#Aborigines
Posted by: 547 (Guest), Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 11:33am; Reply: 2
Hey Henriette!!

thanks for that awesome link!!! have added to my faves!!  ;D ;D

Next week some lectures to give and can display some of the info!!

Thanks gal!

Cocky 8)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 11:34am; Reply: 3
You are welcome- I think I got it from this forum somewhere- so I just added it to my favorites as well
Posted by: Schluggell, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 11:56am; Reply: 4
There was actually Aboriginal tribes of Australia with B-Type, however, as they were mostly along the coast, or on islands, probably means outside contact. These also were tribes that practiced Bifurcation in the 'manhood ceremonies'.

Kalmykia and Chuvashia have high concentrations of B-Types - one of them is actually the only official Buddhist state in the continent of Europe.

I would imagine to actually trackdown where Bs came from would be rather dicey to pinpoint as the modern populations are peoples that were migratory....



Posted by: Dr. D, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 12:31pm; Reply: 5
Sad to say a lot of those numbers are not very accurate, possibly because they have mixed up genotype and phenotype data.

Here is a map that I've constructed using purely genotype data. It overlays the gene distribution for blood group B over the distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroups.

http://www.dadamo.com/haplo-b.htm

Using standard statistical tools, the following conclusions can be imputed for the B gene

1. In Eurasians, a strong correlation with haplogroup R1a, but even more specifically with R1A subtype R1a1
2. In South Asians, a correlation with high altitude, stature and lactose tolerance
3. In Africans, a correlation with haplogroup E3a, especially African Americans
4. In Central Asians, a mild correlation with haplogroups C and M
5. In Amerindians, a strong inverse correlation with haplogroup A
6. In East Asians, a mild correlation with fast acetylator phenotype
7. In Africans, a correlation with lower bilirubin levels
8. In Europeans, an inverse correlation Mesolithic repopulation after the Last Glacial Maximum
9. Overall, an inverse correlation with d (Rhesus negative gene)

As for more, you'll just have to wait for Genotype

;)
Posted by: Schluggell, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 12:56pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from admin
...5. In Amerindians, a strong negative association with haplogroup A...


I've stared dazedly at that chart before...but what exactly is a "strong negative association"?

Posted by: Dr. D, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 1:04pm; Reply: 7
Not with blood type data, you haven't.  ;D

It is essentially 'distance' or 'highest degree of variance.' That is, places you would go to not find what you are looking for.  

Technically 'inverse correlation' is the better description, but a lot of laypeople probably get 'negative association' a bit more intuitively.

Thanks for helping to clear that up.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 2:33pm; Reply: 8
Thanks dr D for your map :-D

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 2:06am; Reply: 9
that book will be a treasure! )
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Thursday, September 28, 2006, 8:43am; Reply: 10
but it takes sooooooooooo looooooooooooooooong time until its outcome :'( :'(
Posted by: 547 (Guest), Thursday, September 28, 2006, 8:47am; Reply: 11


Yes, too bad it takes till next year.... :'( :'(

But we have something to look forward to, right???  ;D

Cocky 8)
Posted by: Schluggell, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 1:10pm; Reply: 12
Yeah, I'm looking forward to even more Avoids.  ;D

Posted by: Dr. D, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 5:30pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Schluggell
Yeah, I'm looking forward to even more Avoids.  ;D


You may be quite surprised :o
Posted by: Brighid45, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 6:54pm; Reply: 14
Now Dr. D, you can't hang that statement on a hook and dangle it in front of us that way!

. . . well, you CAN, but still--dang it!

When's the new book coming out again? Can't wait!  :)
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 6:55pm; Reply: 15
That' an intriguing tease....can't wait!
Jane
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, September 28, 2006, 7:02pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from admin


You may be quite surprised :o

*ears perking up*  Come on, sunflower seeds!  Go from avoid back to your rightful place as neutral!

While we are at it, what say we make wheat and corn syrup beneficials, too?

Just kidding on that last bit.  I prefer to feel healthy, even if it means reading labels from here to eternity.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Friday, September 29, 2006, 9:07am; Reply: 17
yup and a superbenef for my caf forrrr US...the Royals ;D ;)           ( >:( :( >:( :( :'( )
Posted by: Schluggell, Friday, September 29, 2006, 10:41am; Reply: 18
Quoted from admin
You may be quite surprised :o


I don't care, as long as my Genotype is  strong-Haplo-Dominant Avocado Association.

Posted by: Schluggell, Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 8:02am; Reply: 19
I've recently been living with several people from India.

They are all B+ like me...

They even say that Bs are the more common blood-type in India - trying to find some Hindi/English references to this effect.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 4:20pm; Reply: 20
That would fit right in with the love of dairy products.  :-)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, October 25, 2006, 6:23pm; Reply: 21
People in North India should have a higher ammount of bt B- than in south India !
Looking at the "indian" cuisine I am not surprised- most of the dishes that come from the north are easier to make B friendly or already B favorites- than the vegetarian/fish /shellfish/ccoanut version from the south !
Posted by: Schluggell, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 8:06am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
People in North India should have a higher ammount of bt B- than in south India...


Applies to the south as well...
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Thursday, October 26, 2006, 9:23am; Reply: 23
perhaps are there more AB's in the south...almost A2B' nonnies :D...they just love fish and coconut but no hot peppers :P ......grrrr
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 10:33am; Reply: 24
Quoted from Schluggell


Applies to the south as well...


bUT I read that the % of Bs was higher in the NORTH - than the south.
or as Isa says: it is ABs ;-D
Posted by: 1440 (Guest), Thursday, October 26, 2006, 2:03pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
perhaps are there more AB's in the south...almost A2B' nonnies :D...they just love fish and coconut but no hot peppers :P ......grrrr


only partly true :). fish a favourite for the people from the coastal regions. as for hot peppers...well, try Andra Pradesh, Karnataka and Kerala cuisines... ;D

accidental chef
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 3:13pm; Reply: 26
Maybe someday there will be a decent Indian resteraunt in my area. Of course I wouldn't be able to tell the different cuisines. I know just enough about India to recognize Kerala is from the south. The only genuine Indian food I remember was at college a roommate of a friend of mine gave me a small pickled wrapped thing. It was pure concentrated fire and I am from one of the areas of the US that like spicey food.
Posted by: apositive, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 4:15pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Brenna
Where does the b type blood originate or what areas of the world are they more dominant?

As has already been said, the point of origin is conjecture.  Some recent thought is that the original mutations for divergent blood types took place in Africa before homo sapiens set out to other realms.  The prevailing opinion from anthropological quarters is that type B found some advantage and blossommed somewhere in the general Indus Valley region.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, October 26, 2006, 6:04pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from gulfcoastguy
Maybe someday there will be a decent Indian resteraunt in my area. Of course I wouldn't be able to tell the different cuisines. I know just enough about India to recognize Kerala is from the south. The only genuine Indian food I remember was at college a roommate of a friend of mine gave me a small pickled wrapped thing. It was pure concentrated fire and I am from one of the areas of the US that like spicey food.


;D
I had a friend in Dublin - she came from northern part of India / her mum was parkistani -she made wondefull B friendly food- Lots of lamb, yoghurt, rice- cauliflower, ginger- carrots you name it - I only recall a few avoids- like lentils and chicken- but she used a lot of dry green peas as well instead of the lentils.
Food was not very strong- but VERY flavourfull- and quite creamy - lots of ghee and full fat yoghurt.
She made wonderfull fried cheese as well -parneer? with some spicy eggplant dip- boy I get hungry now.......
Posted by: Ellie, Monday, October 30, 2006, 11:36pm; Reply: 29
Sounds tasty, Henriette!

I recently picked up   a book about blood type in Wales and peeked at the section on Bs - it said that  it looks like there was an early influx of Bs to the West as the percentage is higher than would be expected from migration from the east of the country and south. i cannot remember the name of the book or the author(s), and I haven't seen it since, I'm afraid. But i remember it was quite a new book. Sorry to be so vague!
Posted by: Schluggell, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 8:59am; Reply: 30
The best cookbook for a variety of Indian dishes unfortunately I left stateside.

"Lord Krishna's Cuisine: The Art of Indian Vegetarian Cooking", by Yamuna Devi
ISBN: 0525245642

Virtually the Larrousse Gastronomique of Indian cooking...
Posted by: san j, Monday, September 17, 2012, 3:08am; Reply: 31
Quoted from Dr. D
Sad to say a lot of those numbers are not very accurate, possibly because they have mixed up genotype and phenotype data.

Here is a map that I've constructed using purely genotype data. It overlays the gene distribution for blood group B over the distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroups.

http://www.dadamo.com/haplo-b.htm

Using standard statistical tools, the following conclusions can be imputed for the B gene

1. In Eurasians, a strong correlation with haplogroup R1a, but even more specifically with R1A subtype R1a1
2. In South Asians, a correlation with high altitude, stature and lactose tolerance
3. In Africans, a correlation with haplogroup E3a, especially African Americans
4. In Central Asians, a mild correlation with haplogroups C and M
5. In Amerindians, a strong inverse correlation with haplogroup A
6. In East Asians, a mild correlation with fast acetylator phenotype
7. In Africans, a correlation with lower bilirubin levels
8. In Europeans, an inverse correlation Mesolithic repopulation after the Last Glacial Maximum
9. Overall, an inverse correlation with d (Rhesus negative gene)

As for more, you'll just have to wait for Genotype

;)

The link no longer works, all these years later.
Wondering where that map might be viewed now. Didn't see it in the Genotype book, as promised two years pre-pub?

Posted by: paul clucas, Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 10:50pm; Reply: 32
The correlations Dr. D' Adamo mentioned those years ago was the data behind the genesis of the Nomad Genotype and the anthropology associated with it.

I don't know how accurate the following map is, but it is at least a start in terms of blood type distribution.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/vary/vary_3.htm

The Boyd theory of racial type defined through blood statistics, courtesy of Dr. D' Adamo.

http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/theory/theory3.htm

When the data is available, I would like to see even a very speculative Genotype worldwide distribution map.  The worldwide distribution maps of non-secretor type show a large, predominantly Asian, non-secretor subtype that could correlate with a large presence of Gatherers.  So the B distribution is not necessarily close to the Nomad distribution.
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, September 23, 2012, 3:52pm; Reply: 33
I don’t like Indian food; it is too spicy for me.  I’m a mutt, numerous nationalities & blood types.  My ancestors are all over the map.  I’d love to figure out where they picked up the B from, but I can just imagine.(think)
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