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Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 21, 2006, 7:21pm
Am I the last to notice that lentils go from avoid to NEUTRAL for us nonnies?  They are avoids for secretor O's but neutral for us (oh, wait--I just said that!).  Ha!  That so rarely happens!  It is usually the other way!  Like with strawberries.  Pffft.  Don't get me started.  Anyway, we can have lentils!  Who knew?  Not I.

Not that I really want a lentil, mind you.  But it is just nice to know we have permission *lol*.  Especially since, there is this wonderful carribean restaurant in town that makes a delicious pumpkin soup (omg, omg, OMG).  But sometimes they put lentils in it, so I not only never order that, I never go to that restaurant because I know I'll WANT to order that.  But now I COULD.  ...Except, what do you want to bet there is wheat flour or cornstarch in the soup as a thickener, too?

Anyway...lentils!  Hey, I just thought of something:  since sprouted lentils are in basically EVERY ezekiel bread out there, it is exciting from that perspective, too.  Not that we should be eating the grains in the ezekiel, but at least they are sprouted, and at least we know the sprouted lentil in there isn't a foe.

Yay, team!

2, 4, 6, 8, what do we appreciate?
Lentils, lentils, yaaaaay, lentils!
Posted by: Melissa_J, Friday, July 21, 2006, 7:28pm; Reply: 1
Bring on the dosa bread :D and maybe a little pappadam.

Lentil flour is pretty versatile and mild.  I think I blogged some cookies that used lentil flour and brown rice flour.  I have a more sinful cookie recipe, but these fit the bill just fine and are lower carb.

I tend to over-enjoy those few foods that nonnies only can have ;)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 21, 2006, 7:40pm; Reply: 2
Oooh, lentil FLOUR!  Think of the possibilities for a grain-free O nonnie!  Melissa, you always bring up whole new vistas of intrigue and information!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 21, 2006, 7:41pm; Reply: 3
P.S.  I wonder why secretors can't have it but we can?  Such a rare alignment of the stars!  Muah!
Posted by: Laura P, Friday, July 21, 2006, 7:53pm; Reply: 4
it's like avocado, in fact lentil avocado salad is great, this used to be one of my bestest recipes when I was a normal A secretor and could eat beans
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Friday, July 21, 2006, 8:30pm; Reply: 5
Don't forget Dhal, that indian dish of  stewed lentils, tomatos, onions, cumin. Sigh.....
Posted by: Drea, Friday, July 21, 2006, 8:49pm; Reply: 6
I've been sprouting lentils for a long time and find them to be very delicious. Plus, the sprouting ups the protein content. Here's a link for more info on sprouting. There is a plethora of information on this site.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Saturday, July 22, 2006, 5:59am; Reply: 7
Not to rain on your parade, Drea, but wasn't there something around here a few months back about sprouted lentils developing a lectin that's bad for some people?  Very fuzzy memory ....
Posted by: Drea, Saturday, July 22, 2006, 5:37pm; Reply: 8
Don't recall, but I'm sure someone will chime in who knows something...perhaps Lola *lol* will do a search!
Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, July 22, 2006, 6:10pm; Reply: 9
I just bought my first *legal* pappadums since BTDing, now that I'm a Nonnie Princess. Happy happy joy joy. (ok, so they're not 100%, ingredients-wise, but I pick & choose my times for nit-picking - i'll probably learn how to make them w/a compliant oil)
Now to figure out what to do with that coconut oil I just bought! Avoid to neutral, folks!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, July 23, 2006, 3:21am; Reply: 10
Drea, ;)
found this:
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Injections of lentil lectin into the knee joint cavity of non-sensitized rabbits resulted in the development of arthritis which was indistinguishable morphologically from rheumatoid.

http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Lectins,_Mitogen_and_Blastogenic_Effects
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.....lectins can be used exclusively to maintain transplants in animals for up to two years. Lentil lectin induces striking transplant tolerance In both mice and humans.


and this.......read the whole thread, it s interesting:
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archiveb/config.pl?read=102577
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Dr D
Urtica Dioca Lectin, to turn off lupus antibody producing lymphocytes or Lentil Lectin turning off rheumatoid arthitis.


and last but not ,least:
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000164.htm
Posted by: Drea, Sunday, July 23, 2006, 5:47am; Reply: 11
Lola, I knew I could count on your searching expertise! ;)

So, it seems from what you posted that sprouted lentils are still okay for anyone who can eat unsprouted lentils. Did I read right?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, July 23, 2006, 3:15pm; Reply: 12
that s what I have understood, also. )
I d treat lentil sprouts as a TierII avoid, unless you were a nonnie.
how s that? )
the Ezequiel 4:9 has them, yet is neutral for all......
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, July 24, 2006, 4:53am; Reply: 13
Lola, I'm confused by that post on lectins.  The first statement sounded like lentil lectin causes joint problems that are like Rheumatoid arthritis.  Later down, the statement sounds like lentil lectin turns off  R. Arthritis.
Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, July 24, 2006, 5:27am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Victoria
Lola, I'm confused by that post on lectins.  The first statement sounded like lentil lectin causes joint problems that are like Rheumatoid arthritis.  Later down, the statement sounds like lentil lectin turns off  R. Arthritis.


They are for different species. A lectin may be bene for a rabbit but avoid for a horse. Different blood type, genetics and so on.

The testing that matters to us is testing on humans. Animal testing is great in some areas, weak in others.

Information means nothing without context.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, July 24, 2006, 2:52pm; Reply: 15
right, this info was fished from this site........I guess Dr D wanted us to have other points of view to build our own criteria.
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 12:44am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Drea
I've been sprouting lentils for a long time and find them to be very delicious. Plus, the sprouting ups the protein content. Here's a link for more info on sprouting. There is a plethora of information on this site.


It is funny, but I was looking at this very website this afternoon about sprouting lentils, but they have moved to a new site since your post! You are right, the place is a gold mine of info. I have been working on a batch since Saturday night, (my first time ever to sprout anything on purpose!) and found out on this site that I haven't been giving mine enough air, apparently. Why under the sun butterbeans will sprout in the refrigerator in a covered bowl when you don't want them to is beyond me.  ::) Of course, they weren't dried, either. Anyway, these things still smell all right after all this time and a zillion rinses. Some of them have long, green sprouts and some of them are barely beginning. So, should I eat these things now or allow them to finish? I certainly don't want a case of salmonella or anything!  :o  I have used the jar method covered with nylon net and tilted toward the top with the lentils spread out over the length of the jar to allow water to drain. And I'm using organic, red lentils. Ideas, anyone?
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 1:45am; Reply: 17
Quoted from Spring
Anyway, these things still smell all right after all this time and a zillion rinses. Some of them have long, green sprouts and some of them are barely beginning. So, should I eat these things now or allow them to finish?

You can eat them at whatever stage of sprouting you want.  If you just want to eat the sprouted seed, then as soon as there is a sprout, you can eat it.  If you want the green sprout, but not necessarily the original "bean", then wait until the sprout is longer.  Both should be good (and good for you) as long as you keep them rinsed so they don't get moldy, etc...
Posted by: sunnyside, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 2:57am; Reply: 18
I started sprouting broccoli seeds then buckwheat and lentil.

Organic lentil does not sprout and I am going to get it from seeds people.

I am using jar with screen top but was planning to get stackable tray or Easy Sprout Sprouter..

I appreciate any of your experience.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, August 1, 2013, 2:21pm; Reply: 19
hope not to see ya as a balloon soon at the swiss skies ;) ;D.... :X
Posted by: Enobattar, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 2:42pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from OSuzanna
I just bought my first *legal* pappadums since BTDing, now that I'm a Nonnie Princess. Happy happy joy joy. (ok, so they're not 100%, ingredients-wise, but I pick & choose my times for nit-picking - i'll probably learn how to make them w/a compliant oil)
Now to figure out what to do with that coconut oil I just bought! Avoid to neutral, folks!


This might be the incentive you need to get a SWAMI for yourself.  Lentils are a diamond for me and coconut oil is a beneficial!   :)
Posted by: Enobattar, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 3:01pm; Reply: 21
Anybody know of a source for lentil flour?  I can't find it locally and VitaCost does not carry it.

Thanks for any replies!   :)
Posted by: Seraffa, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 4:19pm; Reply: 22
I read this column for fear there were new GMO lentils. *Groan*...............lentils will always be a diamond in my SWAMI. This hurts my eyes  :D
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 5:17pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Enobattar
Anybody know of a source for lentil flour?  I can't find it locally and VitaCost does not carry it.Thanks for any replies!   :)


Here is a link to Amazon that lists lentil flour.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dgrocery&field-keywords=lentil%20flour&sprefix=lentil+flour%2Caps%2C231
Never heard of lentil chips before. Wonder what they taste like..... I don't want to pay over $50 to find out!
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 5:23pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from ABJoe
You can eat them at whatever stage of sprouting you want.  If you just want to eat the sprouted seed, then as soon as there is a sprout, you can eat it.  If you want the green sprout, but not necessarily the original "bean", then wait until the sprout is longer.  Both should be good (and good for you) as long as you keep them rinsed so they don't get moldy, etc...

Thanks a lot, ABJoe. I think I am going to finish this batch up and start a new one. I like the way they don't lose their color as they do when they are cooked - they look a lot more appetizing! They haven't gotten moldy because I could smell the faintest sign of it if they had.  :o
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 8:41pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Spring


Here is a link to Amazon that lists lentil flour.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dgrocery&field-keywords=lentil%20flour&sprefix=lentil+flour%2Caps%2C231
Never heard of lentil chips before. Wonder what they taste like..... I don't want to pay over $50 to find out!


Nearly any Indian (not Native American) grocery will have lentil flour. Some health food stores and coops also carry.

I think the price inorganic the last I looked was $3.99 for 2 pounds.  When buying at Indian grocery be careful that it is lentil flour and not chickpea flour.


Posted by: Spring, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 8:49pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from C_Sharp
Nearly any Indian (not Native American) grocery will have lentil flour. Some health food stores and coops also carry.

I think the price inorganic the last I looked was $3.99 for 2 pounds.  When buying at Indian grocery be careful that it is lentil flour and not chickpea flour.

C_sharp, you did notice that I was talking about the price of the chips, didn't you? Probably a waste of time looking into them anyway because all the chips I've seen have oils that are avoids for me. I do occasionally eat sweet potato/beet chips, though. They don't seem quite as oily as some and are not loaded with salt.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 9:55pm; Reply: 27
Some US grocery & health food stores have lentil chips then it is more like 3.99 for a few ounces.

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I make my own lentil chips, by getting ready to cook pappadams and cutting the disks into wedges (same way you can cut up uncooked tortillas to make tortilla chips.)

Last time I bought the pappadams it was like a $1.65 for a package. Package probably had about a dozen pappadam and weighed about 7 ounces (not looking at package so weight/count may be a little off).  

I cook the wedges the same way I would cook tortilla shells.  
Posted by: Spring, Thursday, August 1, 2013, 10:43pm; Reply: 28
Sounds delicious, C_Sharp! Any chips are outrageous, but if they even have a suggestion of being "healthy" the prices are insane!
Posted by: Enobattar, Saturday, August 3, 2013, 5:15pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Spring


Here is a link to Amazon that lists lentil flour.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dgrocery&field-keywords=lentil%20flour&sprefix=lentil+flour%2Caps%2C231
Never heard of lentil chips before. Wonder what they taste like..... I don't want to pay over $50 to find out!


Thanks, Spring.  Went there....almost placed an order since it is a diamond for me.... then hesitated because I know nothing about it or how to use it????  

Would anyone be able to share some recipes or how to incorporate it into my everyday cooking?
   ??)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, August 3, 2013, 6:06pm; Reply: 30
Lentil Flat Bread (dense not a light and fluffy bread)

Preheat oven to 350 F

Mix:

    1 1/4 cup lentil flour
    1 cup water
    pinch of salt
    

Put 1 Tablespoon olive oil on metal baking sheet with sides

Put sheet with olive oil into preheated oven for two minutes.

Slowly pour your liquid mixture into the sheet with hot oil,
and bake 15 minutes.

-->I read that if you have one of those new fangled silicone trays you can just throw the oil into the liquid mixture above and not do the oil heating step.



Spread on cookie sheet thinly

Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, August 3, 2013, 6:09pm; Reply: 31
Not tried but these pumpkin lentil muffins look interesting:

http://www.pure2raw.com/2011/11/socca-pumpkin-lentil-muffins/
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, August 3, 2013, 11:25pm; Reply: 32
Quoted from C_Sharp
Not tried but these pumpkin lentil muffins look interesting:

http://www.pure2raw.com/2011/11/socca-pumpkin-lentil-muffins/

I think these would taste much better to me if there were not much more than two crusts! The crusts on muffins are always the best to me. Thanks for posting this recipe. Can't wait until I can try it! Can't have cinnamon so I will have to sub another spice or spices. Mainly, I would like to get more lentils in my diet without so much prep and without the stomach trauma going on! Sprouting is fun and interesting, but I need more ways to eat lentils.
Posted by: aussielady582, Monday, August 5, 2013, 4:13am; Reply: 33
lentils are fine for me, many type O people live in India, and eat lentils all the time, damage probably does not occur due to the wise use of ghee and spices, and not overeating.
lentil soup is doing wonders for me, red or brown lentils for evening meal, with some veg added, high protein with many nutrients and easy to digest.
also, lentil soup keeps internal environment nice and moist, and is very calming to nervous system, ensuring sound night's sleep. I no longer wake up with hypoglycaemia headache at 2 or 3am in the morning.
split mung beans good for lunch time meal as green mung resonates with green at midday ie pitta time and heart meridian time.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, August 5, 2013, 5:33am; Reply: 34
Lentils are neutral for O nonsecretors.
Posted by: Enobattar, Monday, August 5, 2013, 3:39pm; Reply: 35
C-Sharp, thanks for both recipes!  I'm going to order the lentil flour now!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, August 5, 2013, 5:21pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Spring
Much better price, and they claim to have only a "pinch" of salt!!

http://www.vitacost.com/simply-7-lentil-chips-sea-salt-4-oz-each-pack-of-2-1


They do contain potato starch, which will not work well for a number of people.
Posted by: Spring, Monday, August 5, 2013, 8:25pm; Reply: 37
Whoops! And the dreaded safflower oil too!  :o Yikes!
Posted by: Spring, Monday, August 5, 2013, 8:26pm; Reply: 38
C_Sharp, maybe I should delete that post so someone won't just read it and order before they see yours.
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