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Posted by: Shel (Guest), Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:05am
My A+ Nonnie friend and I have been wondering for some time if non-secretors share more than health problems. We feel that our lack of protection from various invaders (bacteria, etc) might go along with our problems dealing with what we sometimes refer to as 'the modern mentality' which is all about speed and flash and, well, modern life. We have, for lack of a better word, a more ancient way of viewing things - more tribal , I guess.  Small groups, simple ways, etc. We now live in a rural area away from everything super modern and city-esque that had become a burden for us. We're in our early 30s, and basically want to live a quiet country type life all the time, not just for summers, etc.

Is this something other Nonnies can relate to? Do you feel like you can't fend off things because you lack a 'shield' in areas beyond health, too? Would your 'ideal' life be a departure from many 'modern' things, aside from particular foods?

I wonder how old the Nonnie genes are. I realise that as an A, I'm not as ancient genetically as an O, but as a Nonnie, I feel and process in what seems like an ancient way compared to most secretors I know.  I don't even have a modern 'look' even when I 'dress up' that way. Nor does my A nonnie friend. Nor does my mom, who is likely a non-secretor, too.

So, is there a Nonnie sensibility, or does this strike some of you as nonsense? :-)

Shel
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Sunday, July 16, 2006, 8:02am; Reply: 1
::) ;D hi dearle,
please have an eye onto the Keirseys test...a psychological eye-opener....I think here you might be a mix between SJ-and-NT-styles :D....or if you'd like have a look into the enneagram of Don Richard Riso, both are C.G. Jung related and show you up...where you might find yourselve in your own typology :D
good luck

truly yours Isa- iNTp or 5-4 in Risos' ;)
Posted by: SusieD, Sunday, July 16, 2006, 2:36pm; Reply: 2
I'm sure our nonnie-ness may have something to do with wanting to withdraw from the world, but personality style, as Tomatilla has said, comes into play also. As an INFP I could happily live hermited in a cave and come out occasionally to attend a special function. I must have "alone" time or feel overwhemed. I have always felt that I have to make 2X the effort to get 1/2 the results of the average person. My 18 year old daughter tested out an INFP, too. She is O, secretor status unknown. She is sensitive, shy and an artist. Try the personality test, it's fun and enlightening.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/index.htm#intro
Posted by: OSuzanna, Sunday, July 16, 2006, 4:48pm; Reply: 3
I like socialising, but need lots of alone time, too. The socialising  and travel are for recharging my creative batteries, and the alone time is for making art and a different kind of recharging, maybe call it regrouping.
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, July 16, 2006, 5:52pm; Reply: 4
I heal and thrive in my solitude, and then move out into the world of people to balance myself.  I love to live alone, but have a community nearby.

I have never owned a microwave or dishwasher.  I have a nice tv that I rarely turn on...just to rent DVD's sometimes.  I love the peace and quiet of nature and sometimes living in the city (even the edge of it) is too loud.  

I love the life of voluntary simplicity.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Sunday, July 16, 2006, 6:04pm; Reply: 5
::) hhmmm... I don't think so that's only a nonnie-royal thingy... but please have an eye onto *The Higly Sensitive Person* from Elaine Aron....great infos I've got from Yaman :K) :D ;)
Posted by: san j, Sunday, July 16, 2006, 7:36pm; Reply: 6
Hi: May I chime in here? Tho' I'm no nonnie, "Got off The Bus A Century Ago" is the way I live, pretty much.  My Techno-Challengedness has been dented somewhat by involvement here on the Forum.

On the B threads, we've been known to commune on this subject, imagining herding our camels and goats across the steppes, steering by the stars...

So, we B's sometimes see it as a "B thing".

But then there's this Forum itself, Our Context: I posted a poll a few months ago on Introversion, and 75-80% of respondents, at some late point, considered themselves Introverts, far above the number of nonnies/B's participating on this Forum. (And bear in mind that Introverts are considered to make up no more than 30% or so of the greater population.)

Maybe Dr. D is right with his "Individuals Welcome Here" motto.  We Do It Our Way, here... ;) :D
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, July 17, 2006, 7:36am; Reply: 7
Quoted from Victoria
I heal and thrive in my solitude, and then move out into the world of people to balance myself.  I love to live alone, but have a community nearby.

I have never owned a microwave or dishwasher.  I have a nice tv that I rarely turn on...just to rent DVD's sometimes.  I love the peace and quiet of nature and sometimes living in the city (even the edge of it) is too loud.  

I love the life of voluntary simplicity.


Well Victoria - that could be me as well- and I am a secretor- it could be a B thing as well ??).  I love living alone - in a small village- close to nature- but just 1 hour from Copenhagen if I need big city life .

I do own a dishwater btw- got tired of fighting with my daughter over the dishes - but techinal stuf only interest me when I use it -has to be simple - no trouble - I am a Imac girl :-D
- not as an object you gain prestige or need to read a textbook to use.
Posted by: ruthie, Monday, July 17, 2006, 11:05am; Reply: 8
Victoria...I love your phrase 'voluntary simplicity'...
I live alone in a small town and would not want to live any other way...
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, July 17, 2006, 12:16pm; Reply: 9
I was never happier than when I lived in the green mountain state, Vermont.  As in, NATURE, baby.

Civilization makes me nervous.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, July 17, 2006, 6:32pm; Reply: 10
hmmm......very interesting, folks.   I find myself longing to move back to a small town again.  But, as I get older, I don't think I want to live alone and be out of town, or start over in a new location.

There's the trade off.
Posted by: Shel (Guest), Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 1:51am; Reply: 11
Thanks for the replies so far! Please keep them coming! :-)

I did the test and I seem to be an ISFJ

I'm very high on the introvert scale, moderate on S and F, and low on J

Introverted 78
Sensing     25
Feeling     38
Judging 11

I got confused, though, because I had to do the test again (I had deleted my results) and I got INFJ with the redo! The numbers for everything were the same except that I was something like 15 for the N. So, I did the test again and came out with the above results, which were the same as before, I think, so I guess that wins. But both describe me well. I guess the online test isn't as comprehensive as the ones you pay for.

Oh boy do I ever need to have alone time frequently otherwise I feel totally overwhelmed. People don't usually guess that I'm an introvert because I hide it well. I 'trained' myself to be less shy a few years ago, but really, I am not less shy by nature and now that I'm away from big cities and interacting with lots of people, my true nature is coming out again. I love The Highly Sensitive Person books. They are the only ones that show an understanding of the kind of person I am.

Shel

Posted by: Patty Lee, Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 6:49pm; Reply: 12
I'm an outgoing person who considers herself shy.  I have thrived in the city and in the country.  Hard to say....I think that people who choose to use an internet bulletin board probably are as significant a personality group in this case as nonnies.
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:24pm; Reply: 13
Good point, Patty.  Many of my friends think it's stupid to "waste time" talking with people who are not really "there".  

I agree if life becomes too imbalanced and we zone in on any electronic device to the exclusion of our immediate environment.  However, there are many lessons to be learned from communicating regularly, even with people we may never meet in person.  Forums can teach courtesy, clarity of word use, and the reminder to think before we speak.
Posted by: RHTeacher, Thursday, July 20, 2006, 1:11am; Reply: 14
Hi, I am also an INFP and qualify as a HIghly Sensitive Person.  I enjoy living alone and rarely turn on the television (but could spend half the day in front of the computer if I allowed myself to do that.)  I have to be with people all day during the school year but I really love my job - even if it does drain my energy.  I try not to plan too many evening events during the week so I have time to recharge.  I like to read and sew/quilt, and I really appreciate my dishwasher now that I have one.  I live out "in the country" but town is creeping toward me as farms get sold and houses go up.  
Posted by: 107 (Guest), Thursday, July 20, 2006, 4:15am; Reply: 15
I am a social person, but a person who does not like to be rushed or pushed to be on time for anything!  I love living in the country, but don't really love the far drive to town for all the nonnie food I eat!!  I love the solitary time I have, which is minimal these days with my boys, yet, I do love to travel and visit with friends too.  

The personality tests I have taken says I am a sanguine/choleric.  That means pretty fun-loving, yet can be demanding and bossy!  I really tend to fit the description that Dr. Dadamo gives in the Live Right book.  I have viewed these tendencies as an O thing.  I tend towards quick temperedness when I feel overwhelmed, tired, or too demanded on.  I like the simple life, my home pretty orderly and am not a pack rat person at all.  Don't watch t.v. much at all, rarely, love to read and research things.

I tend to get frazzled over little things but can handle big stresses well.  Loud noises, stupidity and talking nonsense grates on my nerves and I want to scream!  I love music and conversation with people about the Lord and about life issues.

That's me!
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Tuesday, September 5, 2006, 12:13am; Reply: 16
Interesting.........
I suspect I'm a nonnie, but thrive on people. (Re the personality type mentioned above, I'm a sanguine/melancholic which is a rare combination. I love people, but am sensitive. I think I would like Tina, but do dislike the choleric temperament, so would watch myself around such folks! [The only other type in this paradigm is the phlegmatic.])
Today the weather was overcast & we stayed indoors, but I am feeling somewhat depressed.  I'm looking forward to being at the bakery tomorrow with some crowds.
But I hope for some sun, also.  I shouldn't feel depressed with only one day of clouds, but it sometimes happens.  
I like order, but find it hard to do it unless motivated, hence the messy house mentioned in another thread!  In some areas, it is easy to do things, but in others, it is very hard.
I'm so thankful for the BTD.  May it grow exponentially!!
Sea Salt & Light,
Mrs "T"   O+    
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Tuesday, September 5, 2006, 11:22pm; Reply: 17
::) shel, doesn't bother too much, mostly isfj are changed with infj...but in reality they are very,very different ;) ;D ...or have an eye inot Riso's enneagram, means infj=4-5 and isfj 9-1...completely different ;D ;D :o
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