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Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 12:10pm
This is a poll to see if there is a correlation between being a non-secretor and craving salt.  Secretors can participate, too, and are encouraged to, so that we can ascertain if the instance of salt craving among respondents is about the same or any different within the two groups, secretors and nons.

Aaaand:  Go/release the hounds/commence participating in the poll!
Posted by: Laura P, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 1:05pm; Reply: 1
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I crave that type of flavor too so salt, seaweed, nutritional yeast, all of which would be beneficials to me if I was a non-secretor, not that I'm bitter...............no, no bitterness here, not at all, no problems, prefectly happy secreting, sort of messier that way I keep secreting my antigen all over the place, so I have to clean more but you know, cleaning is good............dang'it, now I'm secreting on the keyboard, gotta wipe that off now........
Posted by: OSuzanna, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 2:18pm; Reply: 2
Only JUST found out I'm a nonnie - so this is my first Nonnie poll vote! I'd say I love salt, but not in a life-altering way, just if I happen to come across it, I find it hard to stop if the salted item hasn't run out already... ::)
Only in my forties did I discover that if I deliberately ate extra salt & water during heat waves, I wouldn't get nauseous from the heat - better late than never, I suppose!
I'll be interested to see how this poll goes, thanks for posting it, PT.
Posted by: Bethysue, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 3:54pm; Reply: 3
I am not a nonnie but, every now & then I do salt up a fresh cucumber to beat my old pickle habit!  ;D
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 4:09pm; Reply: 4
I'm a secretor and I sometimes crave salt. I used to crave it a lot more (prior to the BTD); in fact, I used to joke that I was on the Salt Advisory Council, although I've had to give up my membership as of late. I do notice that I crave salt around my TOM, as in yesterday when I got down to the bottom of the spelt pretzel bag, there was that delicious rock salt that I love...
Posted by: LaurieAdrienne, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 4:26pm; Reply: 5
Well, at least I see I'm not alone in craving salt! You're all making me kind of slobbery with your decriptions of the salty things that you like to eat....
Posted by: mikendomsmum, Thursday, July 13, 2006, 5:54pm; Reply: 6
I have always craved salt.  My favorite ways to eat salt are on steak and on potatoes (any way, any kind).  Luckily, salted steak is a beneficial for me.  :)
Posted by: SusieD, Friday, July 14, 2006, 2:03am; Reply: 7
Once I knew I was a nonnie and cut out the sugar, my salt cravings increased. Used to cook with very little added salt, now add more while cooking and again on the plate, especially vegetables, but drink lots of water.
Posted by: Shel (Guest), Friday, July 14, 2006, 5:06am; Reply: 8
I think that I'm a bit like you, SusieD. I rarely wanted to eat salty foods back when I ate lots of sugar and starches (I had major cravings for both back then). Now that I'm grain free and quite low carb, I tend to want to put more salt on things. Calling my increased desire for salt a craving isn't accurate for me, but this is definitely VERY different from the way that I used to be. I used to crave sugar like crazy. Pure sugar candies were my thing (e.g. jellybeans, lollipops).

I use grey sea salt on my vegetables and meats. It's amazing how different it tastes compared to 'regular' iodized salt. Iodized salt tastes so chemically to me now.

Shel
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 14, 2006, 1:35pm; Reply: 9
Well, results are interesting thus far!  We have more nons than secretors who crave salt, but also way more nons than secretors who say they don't *lol*.  I guess this could easily be a function of the fact that this is a nonnie clubhouse area, so some secretors don't check here, and/or they see something saying it is a poll on nonnie salt craving and they figure, well I'm a secretor, so I guess that poll doesn't apply to me.  In other words, we might very well have way more nonnies peering in here than we do secretors, so that could skew the results.  This is utterly unscientific.  But fun and interesting, nonetheless.
Posted by: mikendomsmum, Friday, July 14, 2006, 4:56pm; Reply: 10
The title of the thread "Poll: nons and salt craving" suggests that it's just for nonnies too. I almost didn't read it.  :-/
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, July 14, 2006, 5:01pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from mikendomsmum
The title of the thread "Poll: nons and salt craving" suggests that it's just for nonnies too. I almost didn't read it. :-/

Well, the purpose of the poll is to determine* if there is a non-secretor link to salt cravings, but the subject line also belies that hypothesis to such a degree that secretors may not realize that they are needed as a "control", or possibly even as a surprise dark horse to be the crave-ees themselves. To the subject-line-changing-mobile, Batman!

Edited to add: aaaaaand, DONE!

* in a totally unscientific, impossible-to-determine-accurate-results-with way, mind you!
Posted by: ruthie, Saturday, July 15, 2006, 10:00am; Reply: 12
I use very little salt.  Both of my late husbands would grab the salt shaker and salt their food before even tasting it to see if more salt was required...perhaps that is why they are 'late'.

The only food which I want some salt on it...watermelon...

namaste
ruthie
Posted by: Yochana, Monday, July 24, 2006, 9:57pm; Reply: 13
 
    Oooooo!  My favorite condiment!   I've been a heavy salt user since early childhood and there's almost NO food that doesnt taste better with salt!!
Posted by: italybound, Tuesday, July 25, 2006, 2:31am; Reply: 14
OSuzanna, very interesting finding on eating more salt to beat nausea from the heat. Great tip. Now to see if it works for me and hubby.  We've been in the heat alot w/ cleaning up all the debris after the tornado strength winds that ripped thru here Friday. I'm not used to being out in it much, so it took it's toll on me. I have so much to do inside, seems like I rarely make it out. Just writing that makes me realize that needs to change. So double thanks for bring that up. :D

Drea, that's some pretty serious salt craving if you can say  "I used to joke that I was on the Salt Advisory Council    LOL!!!        "I remember many years ago I had hard sourdough pretzels w/ Pepsi everyday for lunch. Don't really think you can call
that a salt craving tho, as I had that sweet soda to balance it out. Pre BTD, I used to eat a lot of peanuts and raisins together. I like the sweet/salty thing more than one or the other.

Laurie Adrienne, LOL to your comment: " You're all making me kind of slobbery with your decriptions of the  salty things that you like to eat."  

Shel, it is amazing how much dif a GOOD salt tastes.  I use Himalayan salt and I too feel that it's amazing how different it tastes compared to 'regular' iodized salt and that the reg salt  tastes so chemically.  I just love the H. salt!!  I go so far as to take my own salt when I can. H. salt has alot of good stuff in it, reg salt, zilch. Blech!!!!!!!!

ruthie, my husband grabs the salt shaker and salts his food before even tasting it to see if it needs more  most of the time too. I used to say "oh, I already salted that", thinking he didn't realize.  He'd salt it anyway.. Now I keep it to myself - I figure he already knows. He uses more now than when first married.  At least most of the salt shakers around here have good salt in them. Once in a while, I'll dump the junk he keeps in his and put the good stuff in.  ;)
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, August 6, 2006, 4:07am; Reply: 15
Maybe the reason folks salt their food before eating is to 'participate' more in the meal...kind of like driving stick shift.  Driving is stressful enough (I avoid it & would be dangerous on the roads anyway), but some guys just love that extra action of shifting.
I never liked a lot of salt until the past few years.  I think the more pure foods you eat, the less added sodium there is, so you actually need salt.
As kids, we had relatively few processed foods, but still ate little salt.  As I got older in my 20s & early 30s I ate more junk (& more was available!) & little added salt.  Wow! Now I eat what seems a lot & then my BP is low normal!! Who knows what's going on???
Sea Salt & Light,
Mrs "T"   O+
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, August 6, 2006, 12:34pm; Reply: 16
I just read the other day that craving salt can be a symptom of fatigued adrenals.
Posted by: macawluver, Monday, August 7, 2006, 5:38pm; Reply: 17
I have never craved salt. My downfall has ALWAYS been sugar.
Posted by: Olerica, Monday, August 7, 2006, 5:43pm; Reply: 18
I like salt.  My hubby has asked that I not salt food during cooking as I tend to over salt for him.  He's a B-Sec.
Posted by: Poly, Monday, August 7, 2006, 9:48pm; Reply: 19
Not particularly salt craving, no. And I don't particularly crave much sugar either...

FOOD - I crave food! ;D The whole taste-palette! :P *slurp*

Hubby (B-non) is the big "craver" in the household! He craves salt AND sugar! ::) ;)
Posted by: Alia Vo, Monday, August 21, 2006, 6:40pm; Reply: 20
I am an A secretor, and I voted I crave salt. I do not believe that I overindulge in salt, but I do add one or two nice pinches of gray sea salt to almost every lunch and dinner meal. As well, I add sea salt to my water that I drink.

I do not purchase many pre-packaged products, but when I do, I tend to buy items that are salt-free and add gray sea salt to these items, if desired.

Alia

Posted by: Victoria, Monday, August 21, 2006, 7:41pm; Reply: 21
I voted yes, although craving doesn't exactly describe how I feel about salt.
I never salted my food at all through my veggie days.  After following BTD very closely now for a few years, I notice that I have been putting a small pinch of high quality salt in every meat dish.  That's a new thing.  It tastes so good, and the meat tastes much better to me this way.
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Monday, August 21, 2006, 7:49pm; Reply: 22
Hi all,
I am a salt friend, but my parents much more than me !
I do not buy anymore salted peanuts or almonds for my snacks, I overindulge in them more than with 70 % pure extrabitter chocolate (already sweet for me)

Secretorhood will be more important than habits for salt ? May be if you overindulge in salt or sugar you  want always more of them, but salt is in my opinion essential to my appetite and food enjoying. I just try to put it in the lesser amount I can like.
Maria Giovanna
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, August 21, 2006, 7:59pm; Reply: 23
I've come to consider it a staple of life.  Of course that doesn't mean it needs to be overdone.
Posted by: trish44, Monday, August 21, 2006, 8:05pm; Reply: 24
I have always loved salty food, and still do.  I have noticed one thing about being very compliant over these last four months, and that is that I don't crave it like I used to.  Seems strange, but it is a good feeling.  Also, I must throw this in, I am finally dropping some pounds.  Seems like it is happening after a plateau of sorts.  Not a lot, but maybe ten pounds in six weeks or so.  And the good thing is that I don't feel ravenous like I used to when I was eating poorly.  So patience is a plus!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, September 1, 2006, 5:26pm; Reply: 25
Well, sports fans, the voting is neck and neck, a real horse race!

Judging from the results thus far in our very scientific, double-blind, placebo-controlled study here, with the huge sample that we have assembled, it appears that secretor status does not bear much of a correlation to salt craving...so much for my hypothesis.
Posted by: 41 (Guest), Friday, October 27, 2006, 5:30pm; Reply: 26
I used to crave salt as a child, I remember begging my mother to let me suck on boullion cubes  :X Yuck!!! Just thinking about it now....  :o  As a teenager I did not crave salt, but then fast food was considered a good meal  :o where, as Perpermint said in a previous post, soda and prepackaged coffee cakes would be an alternate meal.  So I guess salt wasn't needed.  As a young adult, I never used salt in cooking or on the table.  Some times I would crave chips or smartfood popcorn, but that was usually when I was pregnant or that TOM.  I started using salt in cooking a few years ago and found that small amounts actually increase the flavor of food with out making the food taste salty.  On the BTD, I do add sea salt and ground kelp to food and in cooking. Sometimes just one or the other, but I would not say I crave salt at all.  If I crave anything, it is wheat, or TOM I still crave chips or Smartfood popcorn. Watching reruns of Raymond can be torture during those times, LOL!!

I have never heard of the type of salts mentioned in this thread.  Where would one find them?
Sandy O
Posted by: shoulderblade, Saturday, October 28, 2006, 6:58pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Edna
In other words, we might very well have way more nonnies peering in here than we do secretors, so that could skew the results. This is utterly unscientific. But fun and interesting, nonetheless.


I think that having more nonnies voting in does not skew the results but only makes the nonnie side more accurate in that there are more voices to be heard.

Also the added salt thing. Some people learn this as small children from imitating the adults they eat with. When my kids were little and we wnent to eat at Gramma's there would be the salt and then add on. Problem solved by having no salt shakers at home but for some people it is a habit as old as toilet training.



Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, October 28, 2006, 7:26pm; Reply: 28
Sandy,
At the very least, it is recommended to use sea salt with no additives.  Commercial salt like Mortons is highly processed and is considered to be unusable by the body.  It is blamed for raising blood pressure and causing water retention.

Do a Google search on your computer for several of the great natural salts, such as:
Himalayan Crystal Salt (my fav)
Celtic Sea Salt (my other fav)
and someone on the Forum uses Redmond Salt

Most good natural foods stores will carry at least one of those.  You can always get sea salt in a HFS, but one of the other special salts is usually sold also.  I get Himalayan and Celtic at my local natural food grocers.
Posted by: zola, Thursday, December 7, 2006, 1:53am; Reply: 29
The more I eat of salty things the more I seem to crave it. Most things in the U.S. are too sweet so I don't like them. But I do love sweet stuff too....Dark chocolate. Honey. It's funny that I got into pastry because I was always the salty kid - and keep me away from butter!

I notice that when I'm especially compliant that I want more sweet stuff - and then I am very happy to eat dried fruit (especially apricots & figs).
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, December 7, 2006, 2:35am; Reply: 30
Zola,
It sure is nice to see you around the Forum lately?  :-)  

I hope you are doing well and staying healthy and happy!!
Posted by: zola, Friday, December 8, 2006, 12:56am; Reply: 31
Thanks! Good to see you too! My friend bought a house near Eugene recently. Isn't that about where you are?
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, December 8, 2006, 5:14pm; Reply: 32
Will you come down and see us??  :-)
Posted by: zola, Friday, December 8, 2006, 9:45pm; Reply: 33
That would be fun! I hope to make it down that way in early March.
Posted by: Beautibabe (Guest), Sunday, December 24, 2006, 2:58pm; Reply: 34
I crave sugar and fat! :'(
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 22, 2007, 9:50pm; Reply: 35
Stephanie,
up your protein and you ll be fine!
Posted by: Mary M., Saturday, February 24, 2007, 12:17am; Reply: 36
Hi Everybody,
I'm an O-nonnie and I thoroughly enjoy the Celtic grey salt. I carry it in my purse. I wouldn't enjoy food without salt. My husband and children beg me not to salt what I cook because it tastes sooooo salty to them but just right to me.

Yes, our alternative MD says that salt craving could indicate adrenal insufficiency and to go ahead and eat that salt, Lady!

Margaret
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, March 8, 2007, 12:34am; Reply: 37
I have a girlfriend (blood type unknown) who eats a TON of salt. She'll actually add salt to salted corn chips! Her husband hides the salt container at restaurants.
Posted by: RHTeacher, Friday, March 9, 2007, 1:56am; Reply: 38
I have never craved salt either but I sure have craved sugar.  My blood pressure is on the low side.  I wonder if it would go up if I increased my salt intake.  I actually prefer being able to taste the flavor of my vegetables without salt.  
Posted by: purlgirl, Friday, March 9, 2007, 2:53am; Reply: 39
A nonnie/Yes  Crave didn't seem like the right word. I always thought salt was bad  so I kept it's use down, but I must admit that a bag of salty whatever ( pretzels, chips, etc) could so easily be a single serving. And yes I did want to suck the salt off the pretzels & fries. So I guess it's yes.

Salt has bc important to me lately after reading the "Lemon, Salt & BM"  thread.  Salt seems to be  linked to low blood pressure and low body temp. I am interested in your thoughts on this.
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Monday, May 14, 2007, 10:58pm; Reply: 40
At night I fill up an entire bowl full of salt and just pour it down my throat.  I can't stop myself.  

I'm kidding.  I don't crave salt.  
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 14, 2007, 11:04pm; Reply: 41
that s your hand asking for salt!!! LOL
Posted by: Ronagon (Guest), Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 8:00am; Reply: 42
I haven't noticed any extreme craving for salt... Maybe because I can taste the salt easier than most people, possibly.

I found out I'm a "super-taster" at IfHI.  This might have something to do with it.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 2:54pm; Reply: 43
Interesting! After 8+ months and an 85-person sample pool, we have nonnies with salt cravings running over 10% more than secretors with salt cravings! My hypothesis rules, wu HUUUUUUUUU! The proportion of nonnies and secretors who do NOT crave salt is dead even, which is interesting, too.

85 is a statistically small polling sample and, of course, this type of poll is unscientific, but still, I find the fact that over 10% more nons than secs crave salt to be veeeeeery interesting and illuminating.

Us ancients need our salt. You guys (secretors) can have the sugar. Give us the salt.
Posted by: 1328 (Guest), Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 4:28pm; Reply: 44
Yes I crave salt.  I use more on foods then before I started the BTD.  The other day I was craving a salty, crunchy snack.  I tried the Nori leaves but that didn't suffice.  So I grabbed the salted peanuts instead.  That hit the spot.
Posted by: Heidi, Monday, February 25, 2008, 11:19pm; Reply: 45
I'm reading through the old posts and happened across this poll so I had to add my vote  ;D

I don't usually have food cravings, but if I do it is always for something salty. I will even eat salt right out of the shaker on occasion.  :B

I leave the sweets to my hubby, they make me feel icky  :X
Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 12:53am; Reply: 46
I crave fat in the form of nuts, avocados, olives, ...
Often these foods are prepared with a lot of salt, but I really think it is the fat that I long for.  The explorer diet really restricts my access to the foods I crave.
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 2:07am; Reply: 47
I love salty food!  I've always craved salt, but I've tried to avoid eating much of it because it's "healthy" for you (right, whatever).  Then I learned about adrenal fatigue!  When I started self-treatment for AF, I indulged my salt cravings whenever I had them, and I sure did have them!  I'd take a pinch or two of sea salt and eat it straight.  I put it on my food and in my water.  Now my AF seems improved, and I don't crave salt as much as I used to.

Edit: Probably us nonnies are more susceptible to AF than secretors.
Posted by: SusieD, Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 2:33am; Reply: 48
i use sea salt, does that change the degree of satisfaction to "saltiness" when used as opposed to regular salt?
Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 2:23pm; Reply: 49
Craving salt?  Yes in my binge days... I would binge back and forth between salty and surgery.  Like take a bite of a sweet chocolate and then a bite of a pretzel for instance.

Or chips with chocolate.  God... the good ole' days of chips!  Not really... after a bag you feel sick.  I'm not one of those people who can stop at 3 or 4 chips or even a small bowl.  I keep going and don't stop till I'm sick.  And then I'll even eat more.

A true dis-ease.  It's sad for me because I think I can have compliant treats in the house and I do ok for awhile and then a craving hits and I eat all my compliant snacks in one sitting.

So I've just been working on realizing that I'm not a normal eater and I can't have goodies around at all - compliant or not.  I even binge on bananas, almonds or dates if that is what is around. I just had to stop buying the dry roasted almonds from Trader Joe's because they are like candy to me!

But salt... never really craved it when eating healthy BUT I do salt my foods and will not eat a tomato (can't eat um anyway anymore...) without salt and cannot eat eggs or meat without it.  I do like it on watermelon as well!

I guess I just like it.  Only when I'm out of balance with food, do I actually "crave it."

Well I'm sure this was more than anyone wanted to know!  ha...
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 5:00am; Reply: 50
Quoted from SusieD
i use sea salt, does that change the degree of satisfaction to "saltiness" when used as opposed to regular salt?


I enjoy my sea salt more than regular iodized.  After eating sea salt, than iodized salt has a nasty chemical aftertaste to me.  My sea salt does have iodide in it, but only a fraction of what's in the regular salt.
Posted by: geminisue, Sunday, March 2, 2008, 12:36pm; Reply: 51
I crave salt and always have, I didn't vote, but believe I'm a nonnie
Posted by: OSuzanna, Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 1:37pm; Reply: 52
Since I discovered how different sea salt is/tastes from "table" salt, I don't restrict its use, but don't feel I overdo it. It makes me nuts when people want to season their food without even tasting it first!!! Rant over. Sigh.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 1:43pm; Reply: 53
Some types of sea salt have so much flavor you don't have to add a bunch of seasonings to your dish.  The bleached sea salts taste more bland to me than the colorful ones.
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 5:14pm; Reply: 54
I'm a tad late to this poll, but I'm a secretor and I love salt. I can't eat eggs without it.
Posted by: MyraBee, Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 5:51am; Reply: 55
I totally ignored salt until I started BTD--then I fell in rapturous L-O-V-E with Pink Himalayan Sea Salt.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 5:14pm; Reply: 56
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all the early morning exercises do feel superbe with me.... even as I am known as a little bit a lazy -one... :B but tell me folks
shall I really be that foolish to take a dog in my home??) (think)(think)(whistle)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, February 15, 2009, 5:13pm; Reply: 57
This has more to do with being a taster nontaster or supertaster.
Posted by: whitedov1208, Sunday, February 15, 2009, 5:54pm; Reply: 58
I crave salty  (and crunchy) food at night - between dinnertime and when I go to bed.  

I wonder if it's thyroid but a recent test said "it's normal" - many thyroid tests are inaccurate though.

I know that salt makes me retain water and wish I could go minimum but food doesn't taste good without it.

I can't take Bladderwrack because even that makes me retain water.
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:29pm; Reply: 59
Alfalfa is a natural diuretic and helps with water retention, but I don't know if Os or Gatherers can take it.  My book is on loan.
Posted by: Brighid45, Monday, July 6, 2009, 10:00pm; Reply: 60
I don't crave salt on a regular basis, but once in a while I want something crunchy and salty or salty-sweet, probably because I'm menopausal.

We use Celtic sea salt most of the time. I like the pink Himalayan salt too and use it for barbecue and pan-frying, it's delicious! :)
Posted by: Kumar, Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 4:24am; Reply: 61
I have not tested secretor status but I believe I am secretor. I have not voted too. I somehow has a feeling that I can do without salt. I have on occasions taken food without salt for quite some days. When the cook forgets to add salt now and then on some food, I never ever complain and enjoy it without salt rather than add salt later.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:14am; Reply: 62
I used to be a Doritos freak(evil), I could down a whole family size bag in one sitting.
I needed the salt and they do taste soooooooo good (naughty)
That was before I started using ancient sea salt(sunny)
Posted by: glamour, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:10am; Reply: 63
I think life would be miserable without salt if that answers your question.
Posted by: Munchkin76, Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 10:41am; Reply: 64
Mmmmm - salt, salt, salt - bring it on whoo-hoo!!

First vote as a nonnie and have always loved savoury/rich foods over sweet anyday!  My partner also (in the old days before BTD/GTD) loved to pile salted cashews and potato chips down his gullet like each and every morsel was the last of their kind. - Bless  ;)!

AP  :D
Posted by: Mohairandsilk, Friday, November 6, 2009, 1:30pm; Reply: 65
Hi,

I think I am a nonnie but not tested yet ; I did not vote.

As a child I liked salt, but was not craving.
Later, at school and in the industry, never added salt, and often forgot salt when cooking.

These 3 last years I was said to think put salt in the water when cooking ! I tried to think... better and better  ;D mostly because I read something about the balance between sodium and potassium, and I used a lot  organic cider vinegar (it help me to warm my cold hands and tooth in winter).

Now on the diet, with algaes (fucus vesiculous harvested in Norway, 10g/day)... again, I forgot the salt !!!
  :o Worse ! I feel sick when chewing those salted pumpkin seeds !!! (I remove the salt with hot water  :D )
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 12:43am; Reply: 66
those salted pumpkin seeds have dextrose in the mix.....try avoiding those, buy raw unsalted and and toast yourself instead.
Posted by: Mohairandsilk, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 8:17pm; Reply: 67
I checked
:o  :o  :o corn flour ! and salt
Well... I have washed them with hot water... I am fine (i hope)... I empty the bag and... buy a pumpkin every week and save the seeds  ;D

Thanks Lola
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 2:25am; Reply: 68
You'll have to split those seeds open to get at the good stuff.  There is one kind of pumpkin I've read about that doesn't have a thick coating on the seed.  It grows naturally without it.
Posted by: Sed, Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:02pm; Reply: 69
I think especially nuts and seeds are nice salted, made even nicer if some spices are added. I like salt, but am not crazy about it  :)
Posted by: Robyn Mc, Friday, April 2, 2010, 8:41pm; Reply: 70
Quoted from MyraBee
then I fell in rapturous L-O-V-E with Pink Himalayan Sea Salt.


Me, too--no other salt can compare!  :D  

Posted by: Robyn Mc, Friday, April 2, 2010, 8:42pm; Reply: 71
I voted that I am a nonnie and crave salt--but I don't always crave it.  There was no option for I SOMETIMES crave salt...
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:48pm; Reply: 72
I got my blood tests back last Friday.  I had them & a urine test done because I thought my low temperature might be from thyroid, but I have a low sodium level.  Well that explains why I crave salt even more lately.  I’ve always craved salt, but it has been worse lately.  The ND thinks the large amount of caffeine I drink all day long has affected my adrenal glands.   So guess who has to drastically cut down on her caffeine consumption.  As my glands heal, let’s see if my salt cravings decrease.
Posted by: Poppy, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 12:17pm; Reply: 73
Salt isn't a big deal for me. I could tke it or leave it.
Posted by: cajun, Sunday, July 18, 2010, 8:50pm; Reply: 74
I voted..a secretor that does not need salt! Give me sugar instead...or pepper that I cannot have! :(
I enjoy cooking with Camargue Fleur de sel (southern France) after I have tasted...
I cook with more fresh herbs from my garden than anything else.

I noticed it is mostly BT O that wants the salt....my best friend is an O that is completely dependent on it!
Posted by: lilith_bcn, Monday, July 19, 2010, 7:09am; Reply: 75
Before starting the BTD I had sugar and salt cravings. Now I only have salt cravings, but less than before.
Posted by: MileHighRob, Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:29am; Reply: 76
I did the low sodium thing for so long to control my blood pressure.  When I received my lab results back in April, I discovered my sodium was 136 on the reference scale of 135-146.  Since then I've re-introduced salt back into my diet and have no regrets whatsoever.  
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Saturday, August 28, 2010, 6:22pm; Reply: 77
I usually don't "crave" salt but it does enhance flavors of foods so I use it sparingly.
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, August 29, 2010, 10:11am; Reply: 78
Sometimes I crave himalayan pink salt, but it's more to do with it enhancing certain foods (love it on sardines for one :P ;) ) After discovering this salt, I can't stand the taste or "saltiness" of regular salt... I love the pink salt for the flavour, not just for the saltiness... ;)
There are other times (rare) that I notice I am craving salt & then a little in a glass of water balances me...
Posted by: SandrAruba, Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 6:18am; Reply: 79
Don't really crave salt. I do use it regularly, so perhaps I'm getting enough.
Posted by: 10809 (Guest), Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 10:42pm; Reply: 80
Dont know my status yet but if I crave anything, it is salt.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, October 29, 2010, 6:37pm; Reply: 81
Nonnie and I don't crave salt.  I use it for flavoring foods when cooking, but my tooth is sweet not salty.
Posted by: Rodney, Friday, October 29, 2010, 6:43pm; Reply: 82
I voted don't crave salt.
I do like salt but have been using it less due to BP, at time pressure gets a little high, I blame most of that pain and anxiety.
I buy everything low or no salt so I have more control over my intake.
Posted by: Rodney, Friday, October 29, 2010, 6:44pm; Reply: 83
Quoted from O in Virginia
  but my tooth is sweet not salty.


Me Too :-/ but it seems to go in cycles for me.

Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, October 29, 2010, 8:14pm; Reply: 84
Quoted from Rodney
I buy everything low or no salt so I have more control over my intake.  
have been doing this as well because most table salt has dextrose added - and dextrose is often corn based... I found it makes a difference to me.

Posted by: MsRubyLu, Friday, December 10, 2010, 5:57am; Reply: 85
I just found out my test results, I'm a nonnie I never would have guessed. I love salt and salty chips, peanuts, pretzels are the hardest things for me to resist. I alternate between salt and chocolate and there is even one chocolate bar made by Lindt that has sea salt in it.  I thought that was weird but it tasted great. :B
Posted by: ecstasy, Friday, December 10, 2010, 6:23am; Reply: 86
couldn't craving salt be an adrenal problem?
Posted by: O in Virginia, Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 8:07pm; Reply: 87
I love that sea salt chocolate bar by Lindt.  I love the orange one, too, but that is an avoid now.  :(
Posted by: geminisue, Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 11:45pm; Reply: 88
I haven't been tested, but think I an nonnie- and I  always craved salt.
Posted by: 12551 (Guest), Friday, January 7, 2011, 3:00am; Reply: 89
It seems that I can't taste anything unless I put an ample amount ..and I mean 'ample' on all of my food...and I have very low blood pressure sometimes..perhaps my body is telling me something?  
Posted by: Lola, Friday, January 7, 2011, 4:28am; Reply: 90
hope it is sea salt you add and not table salt, which in fact is known to contain dextrose as a non caking agent

derived from corn, not a good thing being a nonnie or a B
Posted by: jayneeo, Friday, February 18, 2011, 1:57am; Reply: 91
loooove salt (sea salt) :)     (secretor....so they say....I wonder sometimes)
Posted by: 10809 (Guest), Saturday, February 19, 2011, 10:39pm; Reply: 92
Quoted from 10809
Dont know my status yet but if I crave anything, it is salt.

I am a secreter.
Posted by: Kim, Thursday, May 26, 2011, 8:01pm; Reply: 93
My adrenals are exhausted and I crave salt all day.
Posted by: 14554 (Guest), Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 3:34pm; Reply: 94
Hello Everyone   :)

I am new here as I'm sure you can see, lol.  I just got measured up and tested by my sister who just graduated from the University of Bridgeport Naturopathic school and will be getting her doctors license in August.  She put all the info in and SWAMI says I am an Explorer (didn't get the %) and a nonnie.  I have been on the BTD for 2 weeks and all my cravings for salt and sweets have left.  To me this is amazing since all my life I have craved sweets and salt.  Now I have no cravings whatsoever, NONE.  I am completely amazed!  Has anyone else found their cravings stopped once fully on the diet?
Posted by: brinyskysail, Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 3:39pm; Reply: 95
I didn't read through this so this may have already been said, but I would think more nonnies would have adrenal problems and therefore be more likely to crave salt.
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Friday, June 10, 2011, 11:35pm; Reply: 96
Let's just say salt is my friend...my very close friend... ;D
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Friday, June 10, 2011, 11:39pm; Reply: 97
Quoted from 14554
Hello Everyone   :)

I am new here as I'm sure you can see, lol.  I just got measured up and tested by my sister who just graduated from the University of Bridgeport Naturopathic school and will be getting her doctors license in August.  She put all the info in and SWAMI says I am an Explorer (didn't get the %) and a nonnie.  I have been on the BTD for 2 weeks and all my cravings for salt and sweets have left.  To me this is amazing since all my life I have craved sweets and salt.  Now I have no cravings whatsoever, NONE.  I am completely amazed!  Has anyone else found their cravings stopped once fully on the diet?


Welcome wondering...:) I love SWAMI too. Do I understand you to say that SWAMI says you're a Non-secretor? Because you have to do a specific test for that one: http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002

Maybe I misunderstood. Glad you're liking the diet and seeing such great results to... ;D
Posted by: Joy, Saturday, June 11, 2011, 12:00am; Reply: 98
Before BTD I loved potato chips but never liked them too salty.  Even right before the BTD I always looked for snacks with minimal salt.  As long as it had a hint of salt I was fine.

Now I have to admit even though sea salt (which I only use) is still salt I have developed a technique where I hold the shaker in the middle and give it one quick shake on the food.  That's it; most of the time.  
  
I still think alot of food tastes better with a smidgen of salt but not all.  I've learned to enjoy the actual flavor of alot  foods without any salt. Since I've built up a catalog of spices I'm learning to rely on them more and more for taste.   Still learning to be an A.

Joy
Posted by: cajun, Saturday, June 11, 2011, 10:32pm; Reply: 99
I don't like food that tastes very salty.
I am a secretor and used to crave sweets before following BTD/GTD.
The only food I love that is probably considered salty is cheese.
Give me a spicy ginger snap over a (yuck) potato chip any day! ;)
Posted by: Joy, Saturday, June 11, 2011, 11:00pm; Reply: 100
Whew!!!!   Potato chips (which I don't consume since being on the BTD) are  favorite snackfoods
outside the BTD.  

Love ginger snaps myself as long as they are not too snappy.


Joy
Posted by: 14554 (Guest), Sunday, June 19, 2011, 5:15pm; Reply: 101
Quoted from 14428


Welcome wondering...:) I love SWAMI too. Do I understand you to say that SWAMI says you're a Non-secretor? Because you have to do a specific test for that one: http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002

Maybe I misunderstood. Glad you're liking the diet and seeing such great results to... ;D


Yes, SWAMI came up stating I am a Non-secretor due to all the measurements and answers to questions put in at the start.  My sister left my secretor status as "floating" because it was unknown.  Is SWAMI not supposed to determine secretor status?  I knew of the test and was going to purchase it, but when SWAMI came up stating I was a "nonnie" I held off on getting the test done.
Posted by: 14554 (Guest), Sunday, June 19, 2011, 5:23pm; Reply: 102
Quoted from brinyskysail
I didn't read through this so this may have already been said, but I would think more nonnies would have adrenal problems and therefore be more likely to crave salt.


Just curious as to why more nonnies than secretors would have adrenal problems?

I am currently working on helping my adrenals get back up and running fully, but my salt cravings stopped before my adrenal work/as soon as I started the BTD/GTD, so it appears my salt craving was more diet based than adrenal based but there are so many factors so who knows.  This is fascinating stuff!   ;D
Posted by: TJ, Friday, July 29, 2011, 12:01am; Reply: 103
Non-secretors are more inflammation-prone.  General inflammation can impair adrenal function.
Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 8:58pm; Reply: 104
I don't know what i am, but i crave salty foods at times!  Signs seem to point to nonnie, but i never tested.
Posted by: akolley, Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 7:59pm; Reply: 105
I have been a saltaholic all my life, even as a child.  Sea salt throughout my meals all the time. I tend to have low blood pressure, and low adrenals. ::)
Posted by: dtullos, Friday, January 13, 2012, 5:29am; Reply: 106
I am not sure what my Secretor status is yet, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE Sea Salt. May sound weird but I like to put it on ice and eat it! I don't do it often, but when I want something salty and really don't want the calories I just put it on ice cubes.  :B
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Thursday, April 5, 2012, 2:48pm; Reply: 107
I love salt, think it is good for me.
Posted by: Debra, Saturday, June 16, 2012, 11:22pm; Reply: 108
Wow, I'm always craving salt. So nice to hear others who feel the same. Didnt know it might be a nonnie thing.  :D
Posted by: Adora, Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 11:27am; Reply: 109
Hi,
I think i have salt cravings after sugar cravings. (lots of bananas  :-/)

I like the salty taste but i don't like burning mouth. I use Himalayan pink salt since years. Love it. But i don't use a lot, just a pinch.

Bye

Posted by: san j, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 1:14am; Reply: 110
Given the small sample size, we can't jump to big conclusions.
Within each group (secretors and non-secretors) the salty taste is enjoyed. It looks like people clicked "crave salt" who don't necessarily crave it, but simply prefer it to, say, the sweet taste.
I am someone who did not participate because I don't crave salt, though I gravitate toward salty rather than sweet snacks. I don't oversalt my food, for instance, and I do notice when food is far too salty for me.

At the moment, the margin is wider for nonnies.
Among this forum's respondents, Secretors appear to prefer the salty taste at about 1.5 to 1, while nonnies do at about 1.9 to 1.
Posted by: Dianne, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 2:13am; Reply: 111
Years ago when I did crave salt and was not eating meat, the naturopath said when someone craves salt, it is because they need protein. I would eat a piece of cheese, chicken or fish and it would leave.

Now what I do enjoy is having salt and sugar in my mouth at the same time. Think a bite of a chocolate bar with a handful of potato chips at the movie theatre!!! (BTW, haven't done this in years).

Last night we ate at a friend's and had a gluten-free chocolate cake with icing from a mix. I don't know if she realized that she had used salted butter but the salt flavour came through and I absolutely loved it with the sugar. When baking you are told never to use salted butter, and I never have, but man that was good. I don't eat butter, usually only ghee and I was astounded at how isolated the butter flavour was as well.
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 2:42am; Reply: 112
Quoted from Dianne
Years ago when I did crave salt and was not eating meat, the naturopath said when someone craves salt, it is because they need protein. I would eat a piece of cheese, chicken or fish and it would leave.

A salt craving can also indicate a need for iodine...  Again, individuality plays a part.
Posted by: Dianne, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 3:10am; Reply: 113
Quoted from ABJoe

A salt craving can also indicate a need for iodine...  Again, individuality plays a part.


Well that makes sense! It was interesting to note that Ribbit mentioned that her thyroid healed from BTD and she only had to take meds to stop her hair falling out during pregnancies.

Posted by: Lin, Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 1:57pm; Reply: 114
I was really looking for salt, adding it.  But interestingly as my thyroid has improved I suddenly realised I'm not looking for the salt shaker like I used to!
Lin
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, March 2, 2013, 7:36pm; Reply: 115
ahem yeppers perhaps would you want to have an eye into Dr. Lam's educative bla's of
adrenal fatigue ??)......... :o :-/ ;D(shrug)(shhh)(smarty)(scared)(whistle)
Posted by: unclepaul, Thursday, June 27, 2013, 5:47am; Reply: 116
Not sure about salt cravings and adrenals but from personal experience I know that the right kind of salt is beneficial, for years I had heart beat irregularities skipped a beat every 6 beats or so sometimes would race and hammer after exertion nothing the Dr. could explain though. Finally figured out it was an electrolyte imbalance. At the same time started to not handle supplements well. A chiropractor I have seen for 30 years now told me about himilayan pink salt for muscle spasms, I started using it on my food to taste and also as supplement sometimes putting a pinch under my tongue and letting it dissolve, my heart beat is now normal and steady with good blood pressure for a chubby guy, I have had other people I know try it with great results. Some of these people would use tons of table salt all the time on their food, I think they were dealing with an imbalance but the pure sodium wasn't satisfying them, only after correcting the problem with the salt as God intended were they able to cut down on salt use. I now use Real Salt but both are great and contain all the minerals in the proper amounts our bodies need, its the best way for me to get my minerals. Another positive it helps me with and aches and pains and enables me to sleep restfully. We have all read the report or story of some healthy athletic person who drops dead at the age of 36 for no apparent reason, I sometimes wonder if in their quest for health they adopt a low or no salt diet and an electrolyte imbalance does them in. Stuff to ponder.

Paul
Posted by: walk_the_walk, Friday, August 23, 2013, 5:43pm; Reply: 117
I just found out this afternoon that I'm a Nonnie, so just voting in some polls I couldn't previously complete...

I have never really enjoyed sweets/biscuits/cakes/puddings etc - but have always enjoyed salty savoury snacks - since starting GTD at the end of May this year TOASTED PUMPKIN SEEDS WITH SEA SALT are the new mega snack!
Posted by: BluesSinger, Friday, October 18, 2013, 2:31pm; Reply: 118
I like salt and use it pretty freely but I don't 'crave' it.
Posted by: cat2, Friday, October 18, 2013, 8:13pm; Reply: 119
Nope, never used much salt in fact I find many things too salty.  The only time I really like salt is on very bland foods.
Posted by: marty s, Saturday, October 19, 2013, 10:27pm; Reply: 120
The only thing I add salt to is chips (french fries). However, my son's girlfriend adds so much salt to everything its scary! She also has pretty bad asthma, wonder if there's any connection? :-/
Posted by: aussielady582, Thursday, November 21, 2013, 1:36am; Reply: 121
try to keep it a minimum, there is a fine balance even with too much salt, usually add it to cooking grains, or a pinch on vegetables.  I try and get natural sodium in celery, carrot or sea veg like arame, wakame.
Posted by: misspudding, Monday, September 8, 2014, 5:27am; Reply: 122
Don't know if someone has said this on here, but nonnies tend to be prone to gut problems (think Dr. D said 20% of the population, but 80% of the ones with gut problems, autoimmune issues, etc). When you're malabsorbing stuff due to compromised gut health, you need more sodium because you just don't absorb it or other nutrients like you should!

When my son got out of the hospital with his Crohn's diagnosis, his gut was totally shot. He couldn't eat any fruits that weren't cooked, meat that wasn't ground, etc. Those first weeks of eating nothing but meat, broth and bananas, he'd freaking douse his burger patties with a layer of salt. My hubby and I would stare at each other and do the look of "THIS ISN'T NORMAL!". As his gut has healed, his salt consumption has dropped dramatically. It's still a lot more than what I would do, but it's not too bad.

Coincidentally, the folks in my family who seem to have classic celiac/gluten intolerance diarrhea, we all have really low blood pressure. I did until I eliminated gluten and cleaned up my diet. Now it's low normal.
Posted by: misspudding, Monday, September 8, 2014, 5:41am; Reply: 123
Another big point: Meat is naturally high in sodium (or high enough for what humans need). Those who would have been more agrarian based on their ancestry would probably crave less salt and more sugar, is my guess.

http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5a.html

Hard to tell from that chart, since a lot of meat on that list is processed, but in general meat is moderate in salt content; cheese is really high in salt. Veggies and fruits, not much.
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