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Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:40am
Kate started a thread recently commenting on the annoying number of foods that are Avoids for only O nonnies.  That got me curious, so I checked to see what other anomalies there might be.

Here are the foods that are Avoids for only one type and secretor status.  As Kate could have guessed, O nonnies are the champ, but A secretors aren't far behind:

A secretor: Goat, Lamb, Mutton, Pheasant, Rabbit, Caviar, Bluefish, Grouper, Harvest Fish, Herring, Opaleye, Scup, Shad, Tilefish, Sweet Potato. Chili Powder, Wintergreen -- mostly meats, as you might guess.

A nonnie: Casaba Melon.

B secretor: Butterfish, Snail, Amaranth, Wild Rice, Pumpkin.

B nonnie: Nothing.

AB secretor: Nothing.

AB nonnie: Jicama, Prunes.

O secretor: Mustard Greens, Nutmeg.

O nonnie: Farmer Cheese, Feta Cheese, Goat Cheese, Mozzarella, Almond Cheese, Almond Milk, Cod Liver Oil, Gluten Free Bread, Oat Flour, Oats (Bran, Meal), Spelt, Spelt Flour, Brussels Sprouts, Apples, Apricots, Dates, Strawberries, Tamari, Vanilla.  The dairy and grain products didn't surprise me, but all that fruit did!

Note the long lists for A secretors and O nonnies, yet short lists for A nonnies and O secretors.

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:47am; Reply: 1
Then I checked into foods that are Avoids for only one entire blood type.  O's are the clear champs, with AB's running a distant second:

A (secretor & non): Calf Liver, Papayas.

B (secretor & non): Pine Nuts, Rye Bread, Rye Flour.

AB (secretor & non): Tuna, Whiting, Mushrooms (Black Trumpet), Dewberries, Guava, Quinces, Sago Palm, Anise Seed.

O (secretor & non): Abalone, Muskelunge, Kefir, Paneer. Quark Cheese, Ricotta, Yogurt, Beechnut, Chestnuts, Litchis, Evening Primrose Oil, Wheat Germ Oil, Barley, Wheat Bread (sprouted), Alfalfa Sprouts, Cauliflower, Cucumber, Cucumber Juice, Leeks, Blackberries, Kiwifruit, Pears (Asian), Wine (White), Mace.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:51am; Reply: 2
That got me curious about foods that are OK for only one entire blood type.  This time, B's tied with O's.

A (secretor & non): Poppy Seed, Avocado Oil, Sunflower Oil, Aloe, Guarana.

B (secretor & non): Brie, Buttermilk, Half & Half, Milk (Cow, Whole), Capers, Pickle (Vinegar), Oranges, Mustard (Wheat & Vinegar), Vinegar (Non-Cider).

AB (secretor & non): String Cheese, Wheat Bran.

O (secretor & non): Squirrel, Bass (Blue Gill), Bass (Striped), Clam, Eel, Lobster, Oyster, Shrimp, Gelatin.  Note that they get all the shellfish!
Posted by: Whimsical, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:53am; Reply: 3
Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler
O (secretor & non): Squirrel, Bass (Blue Gill), Bass (Striped), Clam, Eel, Lobster, Oyster, Shrimp, Gelatin.  Note that they get all the shellfish!


And the squirrel!  Woo hoo!  

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:56am; Reply: 4
And finally (as you might guess), I made a list of foods that are OK for only one type and secretor status.  This time it's A secretors all the way.

A secretor: Sunflower Seed, Safflower Oil, Corn, Cornmeal, Popcorn, Corn Syrup, Dextrose, Invert Sugar, Maltodextrin, Sucanat, Corn Starch.  (Of course, most of that lengthy list is corn!)

A nonnie: Frog, Octopus, Coconut Meat, Coconut Milk.

B secretor: Camembert, Parmesan, Provolone, Mustard (Vinegar), Pickles (Dill Relish).

B nonnie: Nothing.

AB secretor: Cashews, Pistachios, Wheat Germ.

AB nonnies: Nothing.

O secretors: Garbanzos, Olives (Greek, Spanish).

O nonnies: Coconut Oil, MSG.

NOTE:  All of the above are based on lists that I compiled for my own use several months ago.  There may be errors in my lists, and there have definitely been some changes to Typebase since then.

Posted by: Drea, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 5:02am; Reply: 5
Wow, Carol. Thanks for doing the research and for posting your findings.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 5:02am; Reply: 6
Quoted from Whimsical
And the squirrel!  Woo hoo!



Yeah, Kate, but we get the Guarana!




(What's Guarana?)  ??)

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 5:03am; Reply: 7
You're welcome, Drea!

I get curious about weird things like this, and there's no stopping me ....
Posted by: Whimsical, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 5:09am; Reply: 8
Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler

O nonnies: Coconut Oil, MSG.


That MSG is a weird one - is that really something that anyone should ingest as an added ingredient?  Can I trade MSG for dates?

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 5:24am; Reply: 9

Maybe if you sprinkle MSG on the dates...?


Posted by: geminisue, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 2:52pm; Reply: 10
Thanks for all this information

MSG -if I can't tolerate msg for sure does that mean I'm A NONNIE ( I get the runs so bad I get so weak I have to lay down for a couple of hours)  This was many many years ago, I don't doingly eat it. ?
I never did like the taste of brussel sprouts, but as a kid had to eat them, same with apples, apricots & dates, now I like dates but they don't like me.  If I had vanilla I craved it so much, the
only way I enjoy strawberries is if they are dark red ripe (if hard forget it)

I tried leeks, and did not like the way I felt after eating a serving, threw the rest away.
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 2:53pm; Reply: 11
You Os could sprinkle your MSG on the squirrel.(think)
Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Sunday, July 9, 2006, 3:16pm; Reply: 12
Is cod really an avoid for O nonnie? I have not seen that on other lists?
Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Sunday, July 9, 2006, 3:19pm; Reply: 13
I think that I may have misread that, I went back and saw that it said cod liver oil and not just cod. ooops
Posted by: Poly, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:07pm; Reply: 14
Thanks Carol for all your work. What an interesting read. Lists like that are lots of fun! :)

Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler
O (secretor & non): Squirrel, Bass (Blue Gill), Bass (Striped), Clam, Eel, Lobster, Oyster, Shrimp, Gelatin.  Note that they get all the shellfish!


Hah yeah - guess what I really dislike/don't stomach very well...! ::) ;D
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:29pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from geminisue
MSG -if I can't tolerate msg for sure does that mean I'm A NONNIE ( I get the runs so bad I get so weak I have to lay down for a couple of hours)  This was many many years ago, I don't doingly eat it. ?

I never did like the taste of brussel sprouts, but as a kid had to eat them, same with apples, apricots & dates, now I like dates but they don't like me.  If I had vanilla I craved it so much, the only way I enjoy strawberries is if they are dark red ripe (if hard forget it)  I tried leeks, and did not like the way I felt after eating a serving, threw the rest away.



Actually, O nonnies are the only ones who can tolerate MSG -- though I'm sure a good many of them can't, due to individual allergies, sensitivities, and intolerances.

Except for Leeks, the rest pf the foods that you mention are O-nonnie-only Avoids, so maybe you are a nonnie.  On the other hand, see Poly's post.

If you have the test, you'll know for sure.

Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 4:39pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Whimsical

That MSG is a weird one - is that really something that anyone should ingest as an added ingredient?  


This is also puzzling to me.

I wonder if it is possible to a food not cause in agglutination or other blood reaction and thus pass D'Adamo's testing, but still have harmfull affects on the body.

O-nonsecretors might be able to eat MSG without digestive upset or problems in the blood, but still suffer headaches and other reactions to MSG.

The URL below suggests that MSG kills nerve cells. This would have adverse health consequences, but have nothing to do with digestion or blood. In fact people who did not agglutinate MSG might deliver the chemical more efficientally to the brain.

http://www.healthdangers.com/drugs/MSG/msg-research.htm
Posted by: Laura P, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 5:48pm; Reply: 17
I would like to think of it in terms of modern day natural selection, the O nonnies are probably one of the oldest blood groups, they have been around too long and are now eating up all of the red meat and avocados so there is not enough left for the other blood types, no wonder A secretors still can't eat beef there is none left after all of the O nonnies get done gorging on it.  So anyway there is the O nonnie sore spot there blood doesn't let them know that msg is bad, it happily accepts it like it would a pear or any other neutral

Onon blood ".............mmmmmmmmm tastes like chicken"

eat, eat, eat away at the MSG and then they will die off one by one like ants walking off a hill.

Then finally the A sec. can eat red meat and the O Sec. can have a bit of avocado,

...........classic Cain and Able type tale
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 6:21pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from C_sharp
In fact people who did not agglutinate MSG might deliver the chemical more efficientally to the brain.


Good point C-sharp.
I'm w/ Whimsical when she asks is that really something that anyone should ingest as an added ingredient? If trying to lose weight, it would be especially bad to eat because as I understand, MSG does not let the hunger "switch" in your brain turn off. How many times have you heard people w/ are eating Chinese, famous for MSG, "I just can't stop eating. I can eat this til I pop?"  I can remember saying that more than once myself. Now I know why. Or part of the reason anyway. The other part was that I just plain loved it!! :-)
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 6:38pm; Reply: 19
So, Laura -- the BTD is actually an A secretor plot to take over the world???

 ::)

Guess that makes sense, since Dr. D is an A secretor ....

;)
Posted by: Laura P, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 6:53pm; Reply: 20
No, no, no Carol BTD just proves that A secretors will naturally take over the world, it is just the natural process of things, no plot, just the world changing moving on.  Dr. D in his advanced A sec mental abilities was just able to see this and make the scientific connection for all to see

Now it is troublesome that his wife is an O, but that is his personal matter
Posted by: Vicki, Sunday, July 9, 2006, 10:03pm; Reply: 21
I knew about coconut for A non's but thanks for pointing out the frog and octopus :-)
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Monday, July 10, 2006, 1:47am; Reply: 22
Gonna run right out and get some, Vicki?
Posted by: Laura P, Monday, July 10, 2006, 2:12am; Reply: 23
actually have you ever had good quality octapus?  delish..............it tastes especially good with a marinara or pest sauce, like pasta
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, July 10, 2006, 1:09pm; Reply: 24
Wow.  Now I'm depressed.  It doesn't just FEEL like my type has more avoids than any other type, we really do!  I sometimes quip that the O nonnie diet is the "monk diet".  I'm laughing, but crying on the inside *lol*.

Welcome to the Hotel California.

O nonnie, OUT!

(p.s.  I secretly wouldn't want to be any other type...avocados, don't ya know!  Muah!)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, July 10, 2006, 1:11pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler
That got me curious about foods that are OK for only one entire blood type.  This time, B's tied with O's....O (secretor & non): Squirrel, Bass (Blue Gill), Bass (Striped), Clam, Eel, Lobster, Oyster, Shrimp, Gelatin.  Note that they get all the shellfish!

This is another reason that I'm secretly glad I'm an O non.  Shellfish rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And gelatin!!!!!!

btw, ROFLMBO, whimsical, re:  "And the squirrel, woo hoo!"  *LOL*

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, July 10, 2006, 1:13pm; Reply: 26
P.S.  Carol (you Dabbler, you), I'm about to make this thread sticky.  Why?  Because this is an original topic, very interesting and informative, that has never been posted on before to my knowledge.  Well done, girlie-girl/Kyosha Nim extraordinairre!
(clap)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, July 10, 2006, 1:16pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from C_sharp
The URL below suggests that MSG kills nerve cells.

Us O nons have far too many nerve cells as it is.  We need something to go in there and kill 'em off, thin out the herd.
;) 8)

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Monday, July 10, 2006, 8:25pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Edna
... this is an original topic, very interesting and informative, that has never been posted on before to my knowledge.



... except by Kate?

Dunno how useful this info is -- just one of those quirky things that catches my attention.  But thanks for the stickiness!

Posted by: Laura P, Monday, July 10, 2006, 8:53pm; Reply: 29
I think it is one of those unuseful, useful things, if you know what I mean
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, July 23, 2006, 7:56pm; Reply: 30
How about 'bennies' for everyone!???????
I made this list:  Green tea, olive oil, plums, parsnips,broccoli, kale, collards, beet greens, black walnuts, & cod.  So, if you go to a dinner & they serve most of these, you know the host is a BTD nut like us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
S S & L,
Mrs "T"    O+
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Sunday, July 23, 2006, 8:53pm; Reply: 31
Thanks for adding that list of -- whatever the opposite of anomalies is, Mrs. T!

Much as I love 'em, though, Parsnips just miss being a Universal Bennie -- they're merely a Neutral for O nonnies.

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Monday, July 24, 2006, 3:20am; Reply: 32

And what about the Universal Avoids: Pork, Conch, American Processed Cheese, Blue Cheese, Corn Oil, Cottonseed Oil, Black Olives, Rhubarb, Bitter Melon, Soda Pop, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Aspartame, Sucanat, Acacia (Gum Arabic), and Pepper (the spice).

Did I miss anything?
Posted by: Lola, Monday, July 24, 2006, 3:53am; Reply: 33
omit the pepper as being a universal avoid........I believe some can have pepper (the spice) as long as they use a pepper mill.
this advice is due to mold build up in pre ground pepper.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Monday, July 24, 2006, 4:27am; Reply: 34
I've heard that, too, Lola, but it's been listed an a Universal Avoid on Typebase for the past few months.  Perhaps that's based on new research.

I suspect that if the Avoid status was based on possible mold contamination, a lot of other things would be Avoids that are not (at least not for everyone) -- other pre-ground spices, for example, and millet, which is notoriously prone to mold, yet is either Neutral or Beneficial for everyone.

Posted by: Lola, Monday, July 24, 2006, 4:35am; Reply: 35
I know pepper is not an avoid for me......I never buy or consume pre-ground though.
Posted by: OSuzanna, Monday, July 24, 2006, 4:54am; Reply: 36
Interesting re: msg & Ononnies - I've never been bothered by ill effects from it. That I know of. I am, however, brokenhearted  (and rebellious!) about losing crab, which in my own personal case means Alaskan King crab, one of the foods of the gods, darnit. Whine. I wonder if it never bothered me coz I always have it w/drawn butter, which is basically ghee. And tapioca! What's life without tapioca pudding from scratch, right off the stove? Made, of course, with those other avoids, milk and vanilla. Okay, vanilla I don't get at all. Why should vanilla hurt me!?
PS- Thanks for the lists, I really love that kind of information.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, July 24, 2006, 8:23am; Reply: 37
::) oooo C...the D....what are you doing??) (pray)(disappointed)(disappointed)(disappointed)(hand)(naughty)(think)(think)(whistle)(whistle) ??) ??) ??) ;) ;) did ya melanged the pedales ??) ;D :D you wrote tuna...really ??) won't you have a re-looky-looky for US the ROYALS...huh??) hääääää ??????



THIS IS A FENEBICIAL!!!!! :D ;D (dance)(dance)(whistle)(smarty) 8) :K) :K)


and sorry what I can't stand for is either linden this is a very bääää for me; only my opinion ::) and anise..yup...too  :-/ :o :-/ :o :o :o :P :P
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Monday, July 24, 2006, 1:19pm; Reply: 38
Isa -- OOPS!!!  You're absolutely right -- I must have been color-blind when I added tuna to my list.  Green, you silly Dabbler, not Red!  One of these days when I'm looking for something to do, I'll have to proofread those lists!

Suzanna -- the Crab that's listed on Typebase is Blue Crab, not King Crab.  Best guess would probably be that they would test the same, but apparently King Crab has not actually been tested yet, so some would call it a Cautious Neutral.
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Monday, July 24, 2006, 1:37pm; Reply: 39
hmm...crab is crab...like a frogy ;) .... ;D :D ;D
Posted by: 794 (Guest), Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 2:52am; Reply: 40
That is a scary list for us O nonnies, you all better be greatful for being the other blood types.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 12:31pm; Reply: 41
We pay dearly for being able to eat all that red meat!
The way I see it is that every type has to give something up they really love, & every type gets to eat something special they love that others can't.
Just like life, I guess!

I still am amazed that so few can eat garbanzos.  They are almost a staple in certain parts of the world.
S S & L,
Mrs "T"
Posted by: Jane, Tuesday, October 17, 2006, 2:34pm; Reply: 42
Interesting.  I'm an O- secretor and as a kid I tested as allergic to apples and apricots which might lead you to believe that I'm really a nonnie.  Maybe one of these days, I'll do a retest.
Jane
Posted by: 208 (Guest), Friday, November 10, 2006, 7:00am; Reply: 43
Your listing of tuna as avoid for AB had me worried for a minute, as I remember it being beneficial.  I looked it up on this site and it is beneficial.  Was it another fish which started with t you were thinking of?  Just did not want any AB's new to the diet to be confused.

Annette
Posted by: Lola, Friday, November 10, 2006, 11:31am; Reply: 44
typebase is where most food values have been updated......so always check there whenever
there s a doubt.

which book do you have?

you might also want to check the errata page, to correct any typos from the books:
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075225915
Posted by: Schluggell, Friday, November 10, 2006, 12:02pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler
...Yeah, Kate, but we get the Guarana!
(What's Guarana?)  ??)


Guarana {Paullinia cupana - Sapindaceae}

A Stimulating herb/spice that is used as a 'Caffeine/Cola Substitute'. The benefit is that it generally doesn't give one cramps or anxiety like heavy doses of caffeine.
Apparently it does have Caffeine and the Theobromine like Tea or Coffee, but it is DEFINITELY different in its activity...

Has the taste similar to and looks like (when used as a supplement) Unsweetened Cocoa. In fact, disreputable merchants will sell you Cocoa at 5X the price.

Also, interestingly it reduces platelet aggregation - a potential use as Deflect?...
Posted by: Lola, Friday, November 10, 2006, 12:08pm; Reply: 46
guarana
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?188

just for As I m afraid!
Posted by: 702 (Guest), Thursday, March 15, 2007, 2:46am; Reply: 47
This is seriously so awesome.  Something I would do, actually -- maybe it's an A thing?  But, now someone's got to make a list of foods that are OKAY for ALL types and AVOIDS for ALL types.  Of course, it's probably been done.  But anyway, this is super cool.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 30, 2007, 2:49pm; Reply: 48
go to page 1 of this thread....it s all in the first posts by CarolTD.
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Tuesday, May 1, 2007, 12:53am; Reply: 49
So, who all can eat avocadoes???? (and, more importantly, why?)(I just won't get off it, will I?)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, May 1, 2007, 12:59am; Reply: 50
find out, by clicking on typebase, on top of this page.....
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm
Posted by: OSuzanna, Tuesday, May 1, 2007, 1:41am; Reply: 51
My O-nonnie self can eat avocadoes, and A's  too, isn't that weird! I don't think of myself as having alot dietarily in common with A's, generally... ;)
(they're usually trying to "rescue" my "dinner"!!!) :X ;D
Posted by: jayney-O (Guest), Tuesday, May 1, 2007, 7:35pm; Reply: 52
I think we need to retest that one......and keep retesting till it comes up beneficial for Osec!!
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, May 1, 2007, 7:56pm; Reply: 53
Quoted from jayney-O
I think we need to retest that one......and keep retesting till it comes up beneficial for Osec!!


I agree - beneficial for B´s as well please;-D
Posted by: Lisalea, Friday, May 4, 2007, 12:22pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from Henriette_Bsec


I agree - beneficial for B´s as well please;-D



Oh please !!!
How I miss my avocados, haven't eaten any in almost three months !!!
:'( ::) :-/

I used to eat it spread on a tortilla rolled up with some tofu ( another AVOID that I haven't touched in sooo long ...sigh) or tuna and a slice of cheese ...  it was simply delcioussssssss and satisfying
:P
Posted by: 182 (Guest), Thursday, June 14, 2007, 9:51pm; Reply: 55
Sure wish I could afford to buy that secreter kit. I been getting headaches eating raw vegetables. When I send some of my own research about some of my problems to a researcher in LaJolla California, he said something about me being a Sub-type. Can anybody what he might have meant?
Posted by: Lola, Friday, June 15, 2007, 2:06am; Reply: 56
either A1B or A2B
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/subtype5.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?answer=988813876&id=988813483
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000320.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl?action=browse;oldid=Rhesus;id=Rhesus_(Rh)_Blood_Group
Posted by: 182 (Guest), Saturday, June 16, 2007, 4:09am; Reply: 57
*Head spinning* Help, I am not a scientist.Can somebody please tell me waht all that means in plain English or German?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 16, 2007, 5:12am; Reply: 58
the test is called serotyping
serotyping services from the Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine.  You
can contact them at 480/970-000.
their lab page:
http://www.scnm.edu/medcenter/laboratory.php  

email them at
medicalcenter@scnm.edu
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