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Posted by: italybound, Friday, June 30, 2006, 12:19am
I was reading today that Leaky Gut Syndrome is connected to/with MS.  If this is truly the case, would taking Intrinsia help?
Posted by: resting, Friday, June 30, 2006, 12:49am; Reply: 1
Hi Pat,

it certainly won't hurt .... but for most people much more is needed .... the way that JK overcame her leaky gut problems ... using BTD + amino acids +++ is a step in the right direction.  The other aspect of importance is having the right essential fatty acids, and the third major hurdle is to overcome chronic toxicity like mercury or aspartame ..........

John
Posted by: 903 (Guest), Saturday, July 1, 2006, 4:11pm; Reply: 2
The BIGGEST aid to healing your gut is to discover ALL of your hidden food intolerances and then avoid those foods. No easy way around it. The small intestine will not heal if you continue eating even only one food that causes an allergic reaction or inflammation. And if your leaky gut is severe, you have to be on the watch for developing new intolerances to anything you are currently eating. I decided to go on a rare foods diet and after a month, started testing foods individually from my old food list. This is working well for me even though I can't eat so many things; it is worth it just to not have the pain, etc, after eating!

As for the amino acids John mentioned, I highly recommend using free form aminos if you have LG. The microvilli of the small intestine are so damaged by the condition that enzymes needed for the final step in protien digestion are not available and so protein is not absorbed. This means your body will scavenge for protein in your tissues instead of getting protein from the diet -- not good. Also, you won't be able to digest anything but simple sugars for the same reason, the microvilli aren't supplying the necessary enzymes. And it doesn't matter if you do take digestive enzymes! They help, but not enough that you can afford to eat a lot of complex carbs. Soooo, following the principles of the Specific Carbohydrate Diet helps greatly too. Any complex carb that you eat that you can't break down and absorb just feeds the bad bacteria and fungi in your digestive tract. Ditto the undigested protein.

So I certainly hope you do not have LG! It might not be obvious until it gets to a severe state (but your DR can perform a test to help with early stage diagnoses).
Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Saturday, July 1, 2006, 5:11pm; Reply: 3
JK, what do you mean by free form amino acids?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 1, 2006, 6:05pm; Reply: 4
Quoted Text
Amino acids are organic acids, ones that are naturally formed and are basically the building blocks of protein. There are so many different parts of the body that benefit from these acids that we could be here all day. The main usages are repairing muscles, ligaments, glands, nails, hair skin and organs.glutamine, glycine, phenylalanine, tryptophan, and valine. Three of those phenylalanine, tryptophan, and valine are essential amino acids for humans; the others are isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, and threonine. The essential amino acids cannot be synthesized by the body; instead, they must be ingested
through food.
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, July 1, 2006, 9:35pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from JK
So I certainly hope you do not have LG! It might not be obvious until it gets to a severe state (but your DR can perform a test to help with early stage diagnoses).


I'm inquiring for info for a couple of people I know. I don't have LGS as far as I know anyway.  What is the test for early stage diagnosis? My SIL is going to have a slew of tests done within the next wk I think and I mentioned maybe she should get tested for this and also adrenal fatigue. Pretty sure she has that ( enough that I'd bet a paycheck - LOL). Thanks

Dewdrop, just wanted to say welcome to BTD and the forum!! :-)
Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Saturday, July 1, 2006, 9:49pm; Reply: 6
Thank you for the text on amino acids, but I guess I was not clear in my question. I was wondering
what JK meant when they said "I highly recommend using free form aminos if you have LG". What type of free form amino acids are these? Does this mean 'Braggs" liquid aminos or is this more along the line of the individual amino acids that Lola was directing me to? What amounts? I am new and just trying to learn, thanks for your patience.
Posted by: Don, Sunday, July 2, 2006, 1:01am; Reply: 7
Quoted from debi
what do you mean by free form amino acids?

Something like this amino acid blend from Carlson Labs.

Posted by: 1206 (Guest), Sunday, July 2, 2006, 2:16am; Reply: 8
thank you
Posted by: 903 (Guest), Sunday, July 2, 2006, 3:21pm; Reply: 9
This is a brief description of the intestinal permeability test
http://www.crohns.org.uk/Docs/1/investigations/Intestinal%20permeability%20test.html

Yes, free form amino acids (not a hydrolyzed product which would contain di and tripeptides and could trigger allergies/intolerances due contamination from the source protein such as dairy or Soy, etc). As Don knows, I am using Carlson FF aminos.

So little time these days to post on this forum! Good luck!
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, July 2, 2006, 7:03pm; Reply: 10
Judy thanks for the link to the testing. Will pass it along.
Posted by: 191 (Guest), Monday, July 3, 2006, 7:07pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from JK
The BIGGEST aid to healing your gut is to discover ALL of your hidden food intolerances and then avoid those foods. No easy way around it. The small intestine will not heal if you continue eating even only one food that causes an allergic reaction or inflammation. And if your leaky gut is severe, you have to be on the watch for developing new intolerances to anything you are currently eating. I decided to go on a rare foods diet and after a month, started testing foods individually from my old food list. This is working well for me even though I can't eat so many things; it is worth it just to not have the pain, etc, after eating!

As for the amino acids John mentioned, I highly recommend using free form aminos if you have LG. The microvilli of the small intestine are so damaged by the condition that enzymes needed for the final step in protien digestion are not available and so protein is not absorbed. This means your body will scavenge for protein in your tissues instead of getting protein from the diet -- not good. Also, you won't be able to digest anything but simple sugars for the same reason, the microvilli aren't supplying the necessary enzymes. And it doesn't matter if you do take digestive enzymes! They help, but not enough that you can afford to eat a lot of complex carbs. Soooo, following the principles of the Specific Carbohydrate Diet helps greatly too. Any complex carb that you eat that you can't break down and absorb just feeds the bad bacteria and fungi in your digestive tract. Ditto the undigested protein.

So I certainly hope you do not have LG! It might not be obvious until it gets to a severe state (but your DR can perform a test to help with early stage diagnoses).


Is this scavenging for protein in your tissues instead of getting protein from the diet known as Reactive Hypoglycemia??

My mother (AB NS wont follow BTD) and I have had these symptoms for many years. I get a knot in my chest while my mother's hands shake visibly. We laugh about these symptoms being a sign that its time to eat.

I have other symptoms that interrupt my sleep ( acid, tingling, constipation ) that I have been to 7 or 8 Dr's for but they tend to use the "its in your head" diagnosis when they don't know how to proceed.

I use Dandelion, Bupleurum, olive oil, Garlic oil along with the B Protein mix but this is not enough to ease the symptoms entirely.


Posted by: KimonoKat, Monday, July 3, 2006, 7:15pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from pkarmeier
I was reading today that Leaky Gut Syndrome is connected to/with MS.  If this is truly the case, would taking Intrinsia help?



Italy, can you point me to where you were reading this connection?

Posted by: italybound, Monday, July 3, 2006, 7:33pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from KimonoKat
Italy, can you point me to where you were reading this connection?


Oh, you would....................... :K)          I'll see if I can find it.

P.S. KK, as requested, here ya go!! :-)
http://www.caringmedical.com/conditions/Leaky_Gut_Syndrome.htm
Posted by: italybound, Monday, July 3, 2006, 7:34pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Norrbob
  I have other symptoms that interrupt my sleep ( acid, tingling, constipation ) that I have been to 7 or 8 Dr's for but they tend to use the "its in your head" diagnosis when they don't know how to proceed.


Norrbob, sad to say, but this is no shocker.  Welcome to the forums - a place you will find a wealth of knowledge re: health.  Some others will be along to give more info. I may be back later w/ something myself.    :)
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