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Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:25pm
What ho, my fellow nonnies!  Any of you who have been here at BTD Central for more than five seconds know that I have a theory, based on basically NOTHING but my own intuition, that non-secretors have an affinity for sour/bitter tastes.  If you are a nonnie, take the decidedly unscientific poll and let's see what unscientific info it renders!  Weeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:26pm; Reply: 1
What about secretors that like sour/bitter tastes?
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:30pm; Reply: 2
::) for *royals* only ;) :D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:33pm; Reply: 3
:'(
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:33pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from ironwood55
What about secretors that like sour/bitter tastes?

Sorry, Don, this poll is just for nonnies. The polling software here at BTD Central does not allow cross-references/sub-questions, like first breaking people down into secretors or nonnies and THEN asking them which tastes they prefer. Otherwise, I would have done this poll before the nonnie clubhouse existed and compared "secries", as Dr. D. calls ya, to nonnies, taste preference-wise. That would be a whole other thaaaang. A whole BETTER thing!  As it is, though, this poll is simply to determine, within the nonnie subgroup, if there are a whale of a lot of us who like sour/bitter tastes or not.  I will have no way to compare it to the secretors' taste preferences, sadly.  It will just be interesting to see how the intra-nonnie-clubhouse numbers break down.
:K)

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:39pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from lola
:'(

oh my gosh! u and don are making me feel bad and like I have excluded all the vunderbar secries 'round hea from something, but I thought that it would be okay here in the nonnie clubhouse to ask a nonnie-only question/have a nonnie-only poll. This is in the name of SCIENCE, dag nub it! SCIENCE! We cannot let our personal feelings get in the way here!

You secries are veeeeery welcome to post in the thread, though, and to read it and also you should know that us nonnies--and I think I speak for the majority of nons worldwide in this instance--are soooooooo jealous of your ability to secrete and eat stuff and all that thar good jazz, so anytime you feel left out of the clubhouse, you just think smugly to yourselves..."yeah, but I can SECRETE up a storm...in fact, I'm secreting right now, baby!"
Posted by: Laura P, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:44pm; Reply: 6
I'm addicted to sour, we've talked about this before PT, addicted

Don and Lola- you all I think are in a sub group of secreting nonnies, research hasn't been done on you yet, so....................get back

All you other, happy, healthy, carb eating secretors..........PROPERTY PROTECTED BY MEAN LEAN SOUR LOVING NONNIES
Posted by: Cheryl_O_Blogger, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 10:23pm; Reply: 7
You could have had options like, I'm a nonnie and love sour/bitter tastes and I'm a secretor and love sour bitter tastes, etc.  We can't see the poll results if we don't vote.  Maybe post the tallies every so often, so we can get more insight into the nonnies.  But I like sour/bitter tastes myself and am a secretor, so at least you don't have a monopoly on it.  I miss having pickled foods.
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 10:28pm; Reply: 8
You can view the results even if you don't vote.
Posted by: Cheryl_O_Blogger, Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 10:31pm; Reply: 9
Thanks, I see it now.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:25am; Reply: 10
If the poll was broken down a bit more finely, I would have voted 4 on a scale of 1-5 -- like 'em for variety, but not absolutely nuts about 'em.

If there were no sour/bitter tastes available to me, then I might well be craving them.  But for sour, there's all kinds of fruit, especially lemon juice.  And for bitter, there's dandelion greens and chocolate.
Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:34am; Reply: 11
I like sour/bitter taste in the natural foods. Not the candy department at the corner store up the street. I was soooooo sad when vinegar was an avoid. :'( :)

Debra

And...and...and...soya sauce...and then...tamari... :-/       :)
Posted by: RedLilac, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 2:49am; Reply: 12
Once again I am different from everybody. So far I am the only one who doesn't like sour bitter or bitter tastes. :B
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 3:08am; Reply: 13
Edna,
no worries!! )
was just kidding, really!!

Cary on with your poll!!! lol
Posted by: ISA-MANUELA (Guest), Thursday, February 2, 2006, 6:25am; Reply: 14
::) joky lola.... ;D ;) :K)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 9:07am; Reply: 15
Sorry I cant read! - but I just love sour and bitter things - dont know why- so I voted- SORRY :-(
Posted by: 774 (Guest), Thursday, February 2, 2006, 12:50pm; Reply: 16
I always thought that I hated sour and bitter taste. In fact my yoghurt, for example, always had to come with loads of sugar, otherwise it was inedible. The other day I bought some yoghurt, mixed my fruit in it and nothing else and at a certain moment I was eating yoghurt with nothing in it. Just plain and it was a sour, but I liked it. Wasn't bothered by it at all. Guess my tasts buds have changed, or rather are more in tune to what I eat. Instead of covering the taste of everything up with sugar or fat.
Posted by: Vicki, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:53pm; Reply: 17
I am a taster bordering on non-taster.  I think that plays an important role.  I would love to see several new polls including one for secretors only.  Super tasters would be more likely to hate anything that was bitter or sweet.  Without the taster/supertaster/nontaster information, I think the poll won't work as well.
Posted by: Patty Lee, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 3:13pm; Reply: 18
I googled "cruciferous taste bitter" because I'd heard that some people (esp children) find the taste of brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc quite bitter, and the "supertaster" information came up--which I was about to ask you about, Vicki!  Here's the site I found:
http://www.canoe.ca/HealthMayeMuskColumns/020115.html

I love sour--always have.  I'm not as big a fan of bitter.  I was definitely a supertaster as a child.  And I clearly grew out of it, because brussels sprouts used to make me, literally, choke, they were so bitter.  I didn't like dark chocolate either.  Now, nothing.  And I love dark chocolate. And broccoli. This apparently is not unusual.

So parents of supertasters, don't despair!  First, your kid might really find broccoli unbearably horrible tasting; they aren't necessarily just being difficult.  Second, they very well may grow out of it.  
Posted by: Cheryl_O_Blogger, Thursday, February 2, 2006, 3:32pm; Reply: 19
I saw a report a few weeks back that people who like cauliflower are more likely to have weight problems.  They think it has to do with that taste thing.  Maybe we can't taste things that many would consider bad, so eat more, maybe need for taste not satisfied.  Makes some sense, but when older people lose their sense of taste they tend to eat less.  Whatever the real cause, I am one of those that like cauliflower and I definitely have weight issues.
Posted by: RedLilac, Friday, February 3, 2006, 2:21am; Reply: 20
WOW, Im a Super Taster.  I learn something new every day.  When everybody tells me how great it will be that I can taste foods more sharply after I stop smoking, I cringe.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Friday, February 3, 2006, 3:09am; Reply: 21
You mean those things don't taste bitter to everyone?  Maybe a little bit?

Vicki -- Would tell us how much bitterness you taste in some of the foods listed in the article?

I would say that all of them taste bitter to me, but some more than others.

I enjoy the combination of bitter with other flavors in a not-too-sour grapefruit or a bar of semi-sweet chocolate.

I definitely do not care for brussels sprouts, dry wine, sharp cheese, or bittersweet chocolate.
Posted by: slyparrot, Friday, February 3, 2006, 9:23am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Carol_the_Dabbler


I definitely do not care for brussels sprouts, dry wine, sharp cheese, or bittersweet chocolate.


Me Too!

Posted by: Monika, Friday, February 3, 2006, 11:45pm; Reply: 23
I love brussel sprouts and broccoli. When I was a kid, I used to hate bitter foods.

Monika
Posted by: HarmonyKitty, Saturday, February 4, 2006, 11:02pm; Reply: 24
I'm the odd nonnie out here!  For 41 years I was addicted to sugar!  LOVED sweet tasting things and couldn't stand anything sour.  Yech!

Have to admit though since being off sugar for a little more than a year, my taste buds are changing.  Not enough to vote that I love sour/bitter things, mind you, but they are changing.  I was eating some romaine lettuce the other day with some lamb chili on top and I noticed that the lettuce actually tasted sweet to me.  I couldn't believe that the sugar cube poppin' kid actually thought LETTUCE tasted sweet!  Wow, my tastebuds sure have come alive!
Posted by: Missy, Sunday, March 19, 2006, 2:18am; Reply: 25
I'm not a big fan of sour or bitter tastes but on occasion have indulged with no desire to continue on. So I guess you could say I could  take em or leave em! Now if you had asked about spicy that would have been at the time of the scale for me. I love hot and spicy food.
Posted by: Molly, Saturday, March 25, 2006, 5:08pm; Reply: 26
Part of Debra's message "I was soooooo sad when vinegar was an avoid. "



Hi Debra,
ME TOO! I loved vinager & salt potato chips, dill pickles and other vinager based foods.
Molly
Posted by: 1013 (Guest), Saturday, April 29, 2006, 6:38pm; Reply: 27
hey! - I used to eat sugar cubes to as a kid!!! I just recently got out of my sugar addiction,....oh how i used to love it. But I also loved sour foods too.... my fav used to be sour patch kids, (quite the sour-sweet combo).....my tongue would be so raw after eating a whole bag of those,..but it was worth it everytime.
Posted by: purlgirl, Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 5:50am; Reply: 28
Love pickles and the like. Really miss them.  :'(
So why are we denied such lovely foods - I'll look it up again. guess my brain just can't believe it.

Yes! Romaine is sweet.
LOL So many times I tell DH taste this it's grt only to have him make an awful face and say its bitter. we are definately from 2 dif planets  ;D

So where is the info on super tasters?
Posted by: shells, Saturday, March 24, 2007, 12:04pm; Reply: 29
I'm very divided on this poll - literally.  Love, love absolutely love  bitter but really, really detest sour!!!

Loved bitter chocolate even as a child (Small's dark chocolate for men) mmmmm..... could not understand why my friends would not like it as I thought it was so much more chocolatey.   Never had a prob with broccoli.  Especiallly after eliminating sweet things from the diet, no leafy green is ever too bitter.

Now sour is another storey.  Vinegar actually hurts my stomach.  Even the smell turns me off.  Before BTD I knew I had a prob with vinegar & would ask for no dressings on salad when eating out, so no surprises when read not to consume.   Pickles - yuck!  Never lliked them & even took them off sandwiches, buns etc.  

This thread has got me thinking ..... I have an acid prob. :X   Maybe  most sour foods are just too acidic.  I've always been thin so maybe my stomach lining is a little too sensitive with  too much acid & burns things up too fast?    ??)

Can anyone relate to this?    ??) ??)
Posted by: RHTeacher, Saturday, March 24, 2007, 8:55pm; Reply: 30
I don't really like acidy foods unless grapefruit is in that category.  I like grapefruit without any sweetener, and granny smith apples that really bite back (maybe that would classify as tart rather than sour or bitter).  I do like bitter sweet chocolate too.
I can leave pickles alone without any longings for them.
I also used to really crave sugar as a child but now not so much - especially the longer I stay away from it.
Posted by: Squirrel, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 6:47am; Reply: 31
I had a b/f once who wouldn't eat raisins because they tasted bitter to him. I couldn't relate to that. But I don't like lettuce because it all tastes bitter to me. My DH can't relate to that.

I used to like tartare sauce, vinegar and lemon sherbets (even though they made my salivary glands hurt!) and I like/liked brussels sprouts and broccoli, but I don't like unsweetened chocolate, plain yoghurt or cauliflower.

OK now I've confused myself. Which is sour and which is bitter? (All I know is that the things I like are on the avoid list.) Does that mean I like sour but not bitter? Maybe we need another option on the poll PT!
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 3:43am; Reply: 32
you might be a super taster!
Posted by: 2732 (Guest), Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 2:44pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from purlgirl
Love pickles and the like. Really miss them. :'(
Me too! Bitter I can take or leave.

Posted by: Heidi, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 3:25pm; Reply: 34
I don't care for bitter at all and the only sour thing I can stand is/was pickles. I must be an odd non-taster  ;D
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, April 16, 2008, 6:38pm; Reply: 35
Loathe and detest for me.  I am dumbfounded how people can enjoy candies like sour patch kids. ??)  Sweet and sour together is good in the correct proportions.  I don't tolerate bitter very well, but most veggies don't taste bitter to me.
Posted by: Rebecca_C, Friday, April 18, 2008, 1:34pm; Reply: 36
I can eat a lemon, but can't even stand the smell of cauliflower and yoghurt.  Or cheeses, they just smell wrong (especially gruyere and blue).  I do miss things like sauerkraut, pickles, vinegar but now there's lemon juice.  Lots and lots of lemon juice.
Posted by: 2732 (Guest), Friday, April 18, 2008, 1:51pm; Reply: 37
I remember having vinegar candy once and loving it.

Broccoli is my favorite vegetable, but with my first pregnancy I suddenly understood why some people loathe it. Even the smell of it, and then eventually the sight of it, made me want to urp.
Posted by: Mary M., Friday, April 18, 2008, 4:17pm; Reply: 38
Hello Everyone,

I do not like sour or bitter foods. A little lemon on fish is fine; helps the fish go down. Of course I've eaten grapefruit in the past but only because it was supposedly effective for weight loss. I didn't like the sour taste. My daughters tell me that I will eat anything if I believe it is healthy regardless of whether or not I enjoy it and they're not half wrong.
It looks like I am in the minority in this poll.

Cordially,
Margaret
Posted by: dpcat67, Saturday, April 19, 2008, 6:01pm; Reply: 39
I am in the minority also. I can't stand anything bitter and sour isn't to my liking either. I do use lemon on my fish and in my spinach but mixed with the food it isn't as bad and the food does taste better. But dill pickles---Yuck (I used to love sweet pickles)and yesterday I tasted a daikon radish and it had an after taste that was not pleasing to me at all. The only sour I can handle is "sweet and sour" tastes. They are good.
Donna
Posted by: 1015 (Guest), Sunday, June 1, 2008, 10:31am; Reply: 40
Bitter is OK - I detest sour!
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 3:18pm; Reply: 41
love sour / bitter ..sweet and gooy too. Seems we have much in commom here.. Dr D wins out again being very astute!  
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 3:25pm; Reply: 42
I enjoy bitter and sour tastes. I've been mostly sugar-free for so long that I can taste the natural sweetness in things. Lime juice tastes sweet to me, and I like how it  tastes in green tea.

A few weeks ago, my son and I were in a HFS and they were giving out free samples of an agave-sweetened chocolate. I found that the "chocolate with almonds" was way too sweet for me, although I enjoyed the "extreme dark" 85% chocolate. DS liked the 55% chocolates, but though the 85% wasn't sweet enough.

On my birthday, (while waiting for secretor test results) I debating buying a bar of that 85% chocolate. If it hadn't had vanilla in it I might have bought it, but I knew vanilla is an O-nonnie avoid, so I  bought some unsweetened baking chocolate instead. I figured I could melt it down, sitr in agave myself, and let it harden before eating it.

I got home, wanted chocolate, and didn't want to fuss with melting anything. So I tasted the unsweetened chocolate. Delicious!!!! Now I'm wondering why so many people ruin good chocolate by adding sugar and vanilla!

The best part is, nobody else in the household is going to want the unsweetened chocolate. It's all for me! ;)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 4:56pm; Reply: 43
Loathe and detest 'em most of the time; however, it depends on how those flavors are balanced with other flavors.
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Friday, August 19, 2011, 12:19am; Reply: 44
I love salt/sugar...and I'm going through that now, seems like I always want one or the other...sour and bitter not so much.
Posted by: Debra+, Friday, August 19, 2011, 1:46am; Reply: 45
Love the taste sour/bitter.  Never one was for the sugary sweets (unless, of course it was on something wheaty, but even then not too much) and with all the stuff that is around now...I usually just inhale in the candy section...remember what it does to me and I am outa there.   I do feel very proud that I can walk away.

Vinegar replacement is lemon/lime juice which is fine by me as I detox at the same time.  :D

Debra :)
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, June 24, 2012, 4:27am; Reply: 46
I like those sour tastes in sour pickles (an avoid), those "super sour apple candies" (an avoid) and the bitter tastes in olives (avoids!)

I can eat bitter chocolate straight from the baking chocololate bar and still taste some kind of sweetness that is pleasing. Wierd.
Posted by: Seraffa, Sunday, June 24, 2012, 4:30am; Reply: 47
Quoted from ruthiegirl

I got home, wanted chocolate, and didn't want to fuss with melting anything. So I tasted the unsweetened chocolate. Delicious!!!! Now I'm wondering why so many people ruin good chocolate by adding sugar and vanilla!

The best part is, nobody else in the household is going to want the unsweetened chocolate. It's all for me! ;)


yeah, it's like THAT. (ok)
Posted by: Poppy, Sunday, June 24, 2012, 1:06pm; Reply: 48
I could eat a whole jar of dill pickles, love broccoli, Brussels sprouts, lemons etc
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 8:55am; Reply: 49
As a non-taster any thing goes but I like spicy tastes the best! 8)
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, July 1, 2012, 2:21pm; Reply: 50
I read my comment from 6 years ago.  Now I know why I’m in the minority in loathing sour/bitter, I’m a super Taster.  I didn’t know that back then.
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, November 15, 2012, 7:23pm; Reply: 51
I'm voting on behalf of my nonnie DH who hates both bitter and sour.  He might be a super taster too.
Have to ask him how he did with the taste strip.
Posted by: Dianne, Thursday, November 15, 2012, 7:46pm; Reply: 52
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Don and Lola- you all I think are in a sub group of secreting nonnies, research hasn't been done on you yet, so....................get back

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Has Dr. D'Adamo elaborated on this sub group of secreting nonnies? Someone from ifhi mentionned that they thought I may be one. Would be nice to know.  :)

Posted by: Lola, Friday, November 16, 2012, 3:48am; Reply: 53
Quoted Text
Has Dr. D'Adamo elaborated on this sub group of secreting nonnies?


you might be referring to the LDN

have a Lewis antigen serotyping test done and find out
Posted by: Adora, Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 1:31pm; Reply: 54
Hi every body,

I've not posted since long time. I was sick !

I love sour and bitter much more: Dandelion,curcuma,zucchini,endives...
Currently, i eat lots of endives with my quinoa !
I voted.
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 1:02am; Reply: 55
Sour and Bitter are actually two very separate categories.

Vinegar is sour. Lime juice is sour. Tamarind and some berries are sour. Some cheeses and yogurt, too. Sour cream, tomatoes, fermented foods, are considered Sour.
Endive is bitter. Dandelion greens, arugula and Kale are bitter. Rhubarb. Coffee. Turmeric, too.

In Ayurveda, these are very distinct:
Sour is good, and bitter is bad for Vata.
Sour is bad for Pitta and Kapha, but bitter is good for both.

Also note: Currently, the results are running exactly even, for 50.00% having a special love of sour and bitter tastes, and 50.00% not, with 108 votes in. So, there would seem to be no correlation.

Posted by: cat2, Sunday, August 25, 2013, 12:38pm; Reply: 56
I like sour and bitter tastes  :)
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