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Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 6:36am
Hi everyone! I'm a newbie but have to tell my story, hope I'm in the right spot for this. Here goes. I started reading about the Blood Type Diet about 8 years ago. Never tried it. Not because I didn't believe, but I think I must have thought I wasn't in need of a lifestyle diet change.
Now at 43 , my Dr. believes that I have AS...Ankylosing Spondylitis. I am undergoing tests as I type this. After hearing the news I immediatly picked up the book ARTHRITIS Fight It With Your Blood Type Diet. The following day I picked up the super beneficial foods and almost completly revamped my fridge and cupboads.  I'll add my husband and family thought I was nuts! Well let's just say, they are non believers. I believed and I decided to take a chance to change my life around. For 2 years I have had very bad lower back and hip pain throughout the night and morning, sometimes 4 hours to put on a pair of socks, I won't go into detail about that but believe me when I say it was the worst debilitating pain I have ever had. I began to think this would just be a way of life for me.
After ONE day on the diet, I slept 5 hours straight and woke up only out of force of habit normaly from pain, only to find I was completly pain free!!!! I jumped out of bed....me? Jump? Yeah right, but I did, and ran downstairs to show my husband how I was walking and how I could move and touch my toes! I was on cloud 9 all day!
Day TWO...same thing, day THREE same!! Tomorrow will be 4 days on the arthritis diet and so far I feel great, I am 98% pain free and drug free!! I have to ask myself if it is possible that I went into remission overnight??? Is it the diet? Whatever it is, I have my life back and I am so happy and proud of myself that I "took a chance" and believed!
I will stay on this diet always, I actually like it as most foods I do enjoy but noticed that I never really ate them on a regular basis if even that. Oh...did I mention I am type A+. I find the diet is very easy to follow and I don't feel hungry throughout the day, I notice lot's of changes already actually, even other people have, they say I look good and seem happy, like did I win the lottery? To me this is winning the lottery.
I also had a lot of support from my best friend and mentor Julia. Thank you Julia, you are the diamond in my life!
I'd like to hear from others who have had the same experience, tell me this is for real and it is the diet! LOL!  I'll try to find where I can post my meals and snacks on the board, would love to share it with everyone...nothing special, I just followed the Super Benificials and AVOIDS.
Thanks for listening and I hope to be around for a while and get to know you all!!
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 8:18am; Reply: 1
welcome Sasha and great story :-)
Posted by: Debra+, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:12pm; Reply: 2
Sasha-welcome to the forum and the BTD.  YES!!!  This is THE way of LIFE.  Glad you could make it.  :D

Keep in touch.  :)

Debra

P.S.  What does your family think of you revamping the kitchen now?
Posted by: Susana, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:38pm; Reply: 3
Sasha, :K)

Welcome and thanks for sharing. Most useful information, especially for people like me who has one side that keeps on thinking I am in no need for a change  ::). yea right!  ::) ::) ::)

Best of luck.

:K)
Posted by: neraddan (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 1:47pm; Reply: 4
Oh, yes, another newbie here noticing improvements galore!  Been following the BTD for about 4 weeks now.  Mental clarity is back.  Creative energy is back.  I wake up around 3:30/4:00 AM rested and ready to go.  Nine pounds lost so far on the weight side.  Cravings are gone.  I'm really feeling as if I'm eating to eat, not eating to solve emotional issues.

I'm very happy I tried this eating plan and will follow it for the rest of my life!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 2:46pm; Reply: 5
HI, not sure if I am doing this right, the way I am replying. Hope this works right!
Another great morning pain free!! Gotta love this!

My kitchen? Well.....I divided the fridge in half, my side has no milk, pinapple, grapefruit, (and the juices)low fat yogurt. The fridge is now packed with green beans, brocoli, carrots and cauliflower. The cupbords have been changed around, olive oil up front, no more cookies and chips and junk food, they are in the spare pantry so I don't see them, the popcorn is in the garbage.
My husband is going to find out his blood type now, he's liking the change in me and is happy I feel so good now. He has green tea with me 2-3 times a day, but is willing to do more now.....RAH RAH!!! He has a little arthritis in his arms, hands and shoulder and irritable bowel syndrom. He said to me last night his stomach has not felt this good in years. He eats abour 75% of what I do as I do the cooking....Hmmmmmmm.
Posted by: Debra+, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 2:54pm; Reply: 6
Sasha-great to hear that your hubby likes the change in you and that he is willing to get his blood type done.  If he is eating like you and feels better sounds like he may be an A also.  Although eliminating alot of junk helps alot too.  Popcorn is a neutral for A's (unless you are a non-secretor and that would be a benenfit for you to find out right away if you can.  The NAP store sells the kits). and I hear it is excellent with nutritional yeast as butter is a no-no for you.  If you haven't already making ghee is a very good thing.  :D       :)

Debra
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 3:03pm; Reply: 7
Thanks Ee Dan....I read that popcorn was allowed infrequently. I ate it often, maybe I will start to incorporate into my diet and see what happens. Corn the same.
Off to work with a smile on my face...imagine that???
LOL!
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 4:18pm; Reply: 8
Sasha, I too am a newbie to this way of eating and your post reminded me that I had lots of aches and pains that are now gone too!  ;D I have been so busy focusing on getting my heartbeats to slow down (had a bad episode with 24 hrs in the hospital) that I had not noticed all of the other pains are gone away. I too have arthritis in both of my knees due to surgery many years ago and if I ever curl up in the fetal position to sleep I can not straighten out my legs without much pain, recently I woke up in that position and just stretched out my legs..no pain! I also had a problem when I would get up during the night or early morning, i could just barely stand on my feet and that would be with pain, now that is gone too! I also had "brain fog" from taking Toprol and that is gone now, I think the good eating has overcome all of  that. I am 64 years old, retired from many career years of stress and now I have so much peace, no anxiety and look forward to every day now with hope and excitement. My cravings are going away, I admit some slowly, but I notice changes every day. I can walk through certain departments in the grocery without drooling all over myself, now I get a little queasy feeling  :P in my stomach when I see certain foods. The hardest thing I had to give up was bread, I have developed a real taste for rice cakes with a little good butter or a banana cut up on it..yumm. I live alone, but my extended family also think I am a little extreme, but I just remind them how extremely frightened they were when I was hooked up to all of the machines at the hospital for 24 hours not knowing if I was having a heart attack. I am getting real creative with Thanksgiving coming up as my youngest son is having a big thanksgiving with all of  the goodies. I will fix their favorite dressing and banana pudding (as requested) and will fix my own stuff. They will just have to understand.  Will I miss some of  those favorite foods you bet! Will I indulge, you bet not! A lot can be done with Turkey and veggies and I will be the only one with energy after the big meal.  :D  Hang in there, your post  just re-affirmed my resolve to go on. Sharon
Posted by: 774 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 6:16pm; Reply: 9
Way to go Sasha! Way to go Sharon. Keep up the good work!  :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 9:23pm; Reply: 10
sasha and neraddan,
wow!!!
it s great to read testimonials like yours!!
very happy for the two of you! )
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 9:39pm; Reply: 11
Welcome! and thank you for the great testimonial.  You're finding your way around the forums just fine.

I can't resist making this thread a sticky (so it will be at the top on the testimonials page).  I also started BTD primarily for joint pain, seems like so long ago that I've had to think much about the pain.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 10:38pm; Reply: 12
;D  Still smilin'!! LOL!!
To all of you that have sent us newbies good wishes, THANK YOU!! It is really good to have friends on your side. Thanks for telling your story too Southernkitty (cute screen name), I used to say to my husband how the heck was I ever going to get out of bed when I hit my 60? (at the rate I was going at, more like 50's) Hee hee, I also noted I said I was 43, at least I think I did.....I'm 42, not that it matters really but my point is that I feel like I'm in my 20's again.
My job is a sales rep. I frequent the grocery stores pratically EVERY day, and believe me when I see that nice big strip loin steak staring me in the face and the nice big jumbo prawns melting in garlic butter, the potatos......I go nuts!  I have to tell myself that that stuff will kill me one day, because I believe it will if I were to continue down that path of night shades....
Keep doing what your doing Southernkitty, the family will come around eventually, at least that is my hope.  Also do you have the lower back pain in the morning? Or is it just in your knees? I get it behind my knees as well, or I should say did.
I love the rice cakes, I get them with the addded buckwheat and I spread natural PB on it. Actually my mom said she'd make me some.....she is also asking what to eat now too, she too is an A.
I need to ask if anyone knows of a pasta brand that is good to eat for A's? Also we love our salads, but what to do about dressing??? We eat only spinach and romain now. I have to have a dressing on them, I have been using the usual, but cut it down to a quarter of the amount.
Thanks for helping if you can.
p.s. I love all the words of encouragement, and plan to pass it around too!!
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 10:52pm; Reply: 13
Sasha, I am an "O" so some of the things you eat, I can't such as  "Wheat" so I couldn't do buckwheat, just have to stick to rice and rice only cakes, but I have learned tricks of the trade to doctor them up. I can also eat beef, but because I haven't eaten it in 25 years I haven't made it there yet. But, everyone will be happy to know that when I was at the HFS the other day I bought some organic buffalo patties. They are still in my freezer, but at  least they are on the premises, now all they have to do is make it to my George Forman grill and then to my plate. It is a mind thing okay!  :-/ I will get through it and all of  you will be the first to know the day I eat my first buffalo patty. Glad pork is an avoid for me because I can guarantee you it wouldn't even make it  to my freezer, nasty creatures. I wish I could have found this when I was 42, I would be running around the block now. I don't have any problems with my back unless I overdo it by sitting too long. I do have pain behind my knees, but not lately. I do have a problem with my shoulder sometimes if I sleep on it for a period of hours, but it goes away after movement. Glad you feel so good, I know I do, just wish everyone would listen, but maybe we just have to be an example of good health then they will turn to us for advice when they need it. Good luck with everything.
Posted by: Don, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 10:57pm; Reply: 14
Buckwheat is neutral for type O secretors.
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?78

I am sure you will enjoy the buffalo when you try it.  I love it.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 10:58pm; Reply: 15
Pasta, one word: Tinkyada.  It's the best brand of rice pasta, even my pasta-gourmand-super-picky husband enjoys it.

My husband always liked lemon vinegarette, never liked regular american type dressings, so we had no trouble switching.  Just mix lemon juice, olive oil, salt and seasonings (my favorite: Herbamare seasoned salt, but feel free to experiment)  You can add mustard powder and compliant sweetener, to make a honey-mustard dressing.  You can add minced garlic and italian herbs, but it doesn't keep as long in the refrigerator with fresh garlic in it.  Don't forget the avocado slices!  You can also add or sprinkle on nutritional yeast for something more cheesy.

Isn't it great to get younger?  At age 20 I felt 50, now at 30 I feel 20.  It's also good to go from being considered a hypochondriac to being considered somebody who is naturally blessed with good health.  (People don't have very good memories of other's health conditions, I was shocked to hear myself described as one of the 'healthy ones' as if it didn't take me any effort!)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:01pm; Reply: 16
LOL! For me it's the tofu, haven't gotten there yet! My girlfriend has this great soup she made me once with tofu...I'l have to get the recipe and try it...hope it has no avoids in it!
I think too that I'll just have to wortry about myself for a while and concentrate on my own health as it seems to be a little stressfull getting my point across to some people.
You have come a long way...very happy for you. I only wish my mother in law would listen to me, she's a little older than you are and has osteoarthritis, limps around and complains but still eats the bannana every day with her whole wheat sandwhich with cold cuts and tomatos and whatever nasty poison she is ingesting into her Type A bloodstream.
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:32pm; Reply: 17
Sasha, I have learned that there are certain looks and body language people give you when you are talking about what and how you are eating, and so that I don't get into a stressful encounter, I shut up the minute I see that happening.  :X My youngest son is an 0 and has an ulcer he takes medication and last saturday I was at his house and his wife was piling his plate with white flour pancakes, pork bacon and lots of syrup and margarine. It almost made me sick at my stomach. They offered me something to eat and then immediately remarked, thats right you wouldn't eat this. I said no, but I did have 2 turkey sausage links, an egg white omlet with veggies, a banana and a slice of Ezekiel bread before I left my house. No one said anything, guess they thought I could just eat weeds.  :D Unfortunely some people will never see the benefit in eating properly and for your blood type and will always be in pain. I want to be pain free as I get older so I don't have to depend on anyone else or be a complainer because I am in pain. You will be a walking testimony when you reach my age, notice I said "Walking".  ;D
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:45pm; Reply: 18
Southernkitty.....I have heard from everyone I have met that buffallo is good. I can understand the not wanting to try it, myself I never have, but please let us know when you do and how you cooked it too! I'm sure it will be very tasty!

Oops had to go there quickly on my last post, sorry.
I wanted to aslo say that I have had rosatia on my chin ever so slightly for many years and I see now that it is clearing up.

I see there is a spot for cooking, so will go back for some good ideas. Think I will need that pretty quick here as dinners can get boring!
Hey, day 5 today....seems like I was never in pain! Oh sure I can feel a small tiny amount of stiffness, but nothing like before. It is NEVER too late to start, old or young I recommend this to everyone. Today I was in a grocery store and told the book dept. lady to get in the BTD books (I showed her mine as I keep in in my purse) She says she will go out and get a copy and start, she's an A too, I was excited today to tell her about it because she is a "believer" herself. I hope she does and starts to get her health issues in check too.
Oh I see I babbled on again.........ooops, sorry. It will stop soon, when ever I get over the excitement of feeling alive again....actually having a life...this is sooooooo awesome!!
Did I mention that my husband says this is the best he has felt in over 10 years....he has irritable bowel syndrom, he is eating mostly what I do. (for dinners anyhow and snacks)  He also takes an algae supplement. Seems to do him good therse changes, he's not 100% on board yet, but coming along.....I'm very proud of him!!
Posted by: SheriBerry, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:46pm; Reply: 19
I'm on the arthritis diet too, Sasha!

Although I'm really compliant, I haven't  seen tons of change in my knees, though.  I  was a  distance runner for many years and I play singles tennis every day ( still)... so .. I really put the wear and tear on my knees.  I've quit running outside... now I do the eliptical trainer in the gym.. still 7  miles or so.. but there's no pounding.

I feel like  I just need to give it more time, since my knees were so bad to begin with.  I spent many years as a vegetarian eating all the wrong things.. and  YEARS of too much coffee,  milk, and sugar.. so I hope I can say that I see  a big change like you in a few months!  Also, my physical therapist is a huge believer in the BTD.. so since I've been seeing him in the last month, I'm  even more sure that this is the right way to eat for arthritis.
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Thursday, November 3, 2005, 12:54am; Reply: 20
Sheri, I also take Glucosomine Sulfate for my knees and that was helping me before I started the BTD, so with the two of them I feel that has helped a lot. I was born with my patella's out of line and thoughout my early years I would end up with them dislocating all the time which tore my ligaments and tendons many times over. They moved them in what was a major surgery (7 hours) in 1970 and years later I ended up with arthritis because of the wear and tear. They have never come out of place again so the surgery was a success. They told me that I may need knee replacement a few years ago, but so far so good. Of course I don't run or play tennis, but then again, I never learned how to run because of my knees and never played tennis. I am sure you would miss those things if you had to give them up completely, we will believe that over time BTD will work for you.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 3, 2005, 1:03am; Reply: 21
Hi Sheri....I too was an athelte for many years, I was also in weight training for quite a while....funny, now I read A's should not do strenuous excersise..go figure. That's what I thought my problem was with back pain, vhiro said it was a pinched nerve, but I guess I will know soon when I get tests back from the ol' GP. I can oly imagine what tennis could do to the knees...ouch! I know why you chose tennis though...hee hee....all those years of coffee and cream, I know it would go to my thighs!! Curious...how is your elbow, any type of pain there?  I'll be back to the gym soon, as soon as I know I am good to go, and won't hurt my back or jints in any way. Oh to feel the treadmill under my feet again!!
I think for sure, I mean I know for sure you are on the right track now, it is so true that some things just take so much more time to pull together, but I would have beemhappy with just the tiniest bit of improvement, so each day you probably notice  something new and better, even if you just tell yourself that.

I don't know how to reply to an individual post, so I will say THANKS FOR THE PASTA NAME AND SAUCES, good timing cause I am making broiled chicken with fetaccinni (how do you spell that) pasta, brocoli and spinach salad with walnuts and mushrooms (cause they are there in the fridge), not sure what dressing to put on tho, used to use balsamic vinegarette, but I think A's are an AVOID on vinegar, will have to look and see. I have noticed some of you do some pretty fancy stuff in the kitchen...very creative, I hope I get there soon too!
Off to cook!
Thanks ALL!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 3, 2005, 1:11am; Reply: 22
LOL! Southernkitty.....I know those looks real well. But most people know me for years, I'm always going on about some natural or herbal remedy that I have found, on and off over the years....sold herbs for a while too...drove the family nuts. If it's aquaintences, I stop pretty quick if there is no response. I just think to myself, "ok, fine suite yourself then, and don't tell me your problems" They can dish out the complaints but have not yet learned to "listen" and "believe".


Anyone know if there is a spell check on this board....I am not a typer by trade.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, November 3, 2005, 2:11am; Reply: 23
my google tool bar has an efficient spellcheck.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 3, 2005, 5:06am; Reply: 24
:P Thanks Melissa J the dressing was great!
Posted by: Alia Vo, Friday, November 4, 2005, 2:45am; Reply: 25
Thank you ladies for sharing your wonderful stories with us.

Quoted from neraddan
I'm very happy I tried this eating plan and will follow it for the rest of my life!


This is truly a plan for life--that's the beauty of the BTD.


Alia
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 4, 2005, 8:52pm; Reply: 26
Sasha, welcome, and I'm thrilled at your striking results thus far!  How wonderful!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Saturday, November 5, 2005, 5:18am; Reply: 27
:'( I had a set back this morning when I woke at 5 a.m. to the old lower back pain, I was ok to get up and out of bed, walked it off and was ok but was not happy at all to feel that way. I ate popcorn last night, but decided it needed yup, you guessed it, BUTTER! I can't believe I did that, now I wonder if that could have set off the inflamation again...  (I am believed to have Ankylosing Spondylitis)
today was a good day eating wise, all the right foods and even made another trip to the health food store for pastas, nutritional yeast (which I had tonight on my veggies....yummy, very good) and some other healthy goodies.
My hubby just made a bowl of veg. beef soup out of a can loaded with soup crackers, (apparently the fish, brown rice and veggies were not enough to satisfy his apatite)omg, just the smell of it made me sick. He's obviously not on board with me 100% yet!  I know red meat is not good for me and so far I have not craved my usual bbq steak. Thank goodness! But I sure miss my chips! I noticed I lost 1 pound too, steady for 2 days now. I was hoping to get back to working out as I have not been able to for so long, afraid I would do some damage to my back. Take long walks with my dog and gardening is about it. I hope to loose 12 pounds. So back to the gym real soon here! I can't wait.
I have now been on the BTD for 6 days and only one bad day pain wise, so I guess I'm not doing too badley then considering I have been in pain for almost 2 years daily. I still feel like I have my life back and I refuse to believe that this disease is going to take over my life. I am thankful that I joined this board because of all the help I have recieved and supposrt and hearing stories, I no longer feel alone in this battle for a healthy life.
Thanks everyone!!!   :)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Saturday, November 5, 2005, 5:45am; Reply: 28
Quoted from debra
Sasha-great to hear that your hubby likes the change in you and that he is willing to get his blood type done.  If he is eating like you and feels better sounds like he may be an A also.  Although eliminating alot of junk helps alot too.  Popcorn is a neutral for A's (unless you are a non-secretor and that would be a benenfit for you to find out right away if you can.  The NAP store sells the kits). and I hear it is excellent with nutritional yeast as butter is a no-no for you.  If you haven't already making ghee is a very good thing.  :D       :)

Debra


Hi Debra, was wondering what and where is the Nap store? I am from Canada. I checked at the medical lab and she says they do secretor testing, so on Thursday when I see my Dr. about some other blood work, I am going to tell her about the BTD that I am on and that I want to be tested, I am sure she will give me the requisite. She's sure going to be surprised when I tell her how good I have been feeling being on this diet.  Also I bougt the nutritional yeast and it was good on my veggies. What is "making ghee"????
Thanks!  ;)

Posted by: Lola, Saturday, November 5, 2005, 6:00am; Reply: 29
sasha here:
http://www.dadamo.com/ask/ask2.pl?20050724.txt
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 12:44am; Reply: 30
Sasha, hang in there. We all make those stumbles at times. I have stumbled and eaten things that are an avoid and I also suffered for it. I do believe this way of eating takes a lot of determination and committment, but when you lose some of your determination and some of your committment (or your husband loses his); don't give up. Think of how good you have felt the last 6-7 days except for one bad day. Hey 6 out of 7 days feeling good sure beats 7 out of 7 feeling bad! I don't know if  the butter caused the inflamation to come back, but if eliminating it made the pain go away, then be sure to find a good substitute for the butter. As an "O" I can't have popcorn and I love it, I also can't have peanut butter and that was my favorite spread and favorite snack peanut butter crackers. So, now for a snack I had a rice cake with this bean butter I found at the HFS that taste a lot like peanut butter with none of my avoids in it, I spread it on the rice cake, topped it with some walnuts (I can't have pecans or peanuts) and then sliced 1/2 a banana up on it. Delicious and filling. You get very creative on this way of eating and I have totally made some messes! Pumpkin is in season and I took a pumpkin recipe and substituted the avoids for things that were good for me and instead of the bread they called for I used Ezekiel Bread, it was awful, but I had fun experimenting even though I had to throw it out. I would like to encourage you to hang in there, when you make a mistake, get beyond it and go on. After all we aren't eating fast foods anymore, fast foods that destroy the body and the mind. I wish I had enough encouraging words for you, but I don't, so I will just say don't beat yourself up over your stumbles, just get up and go on, you won't regret it.
Posted by: zola, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 1:15am; Reply: 31
Sandra - as an A nonnie I can't eat popcorn either. Try this tasty and satisfying alternative:

Rice Cake "popcorn"

for one good size serving crumble up 3 (Lundberg) ricecakes into bite-sized popcorn-sized pieces, drizzle with olive oil (tossing all the while), sprinkle with 2 T nutritional yeast and a pinch of sea salt. Eat with abandon!

You will hardly miss the old standard - and this one doesn't make you feel icky!

I also enjoy additive-free soymilk with blackstrap molasses. It is chock full of iron (15% if the Daily Value)  and potassium (20%) in one tablespoon. This amount will also give you 10% of Calcium DV and vitamin B6, 8% of DV magnesium - and no sodium.  

There is a thread about blackstrap molasses on the board worth checking out.

You will find snacks to take the place of things you  and your family eat now as you go along. Think of it as replacing the unbeneficials with things you enjoy and are good for you!

For an awesome chocolate fix check out TypeBase4 for the Omega-3 chocolate (I make it into truffles). Mmm. Mmm goooood!
Posted by: zola, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 1:20am; Reply: 32
I met a young kid at a clinic that got diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis. I think A's are more prone to this. I never would have had an appreciation for AS and it's pains if it weren't for him.

Have you looked up the protocol for AS in Dr D's BTD Encyclopedia?

This kid was in jail and they didn't do much to help him. (No real suprise). He was really confounded about it. Luckily and ER doc was volunteering that day and was able to get him in to Dr's that could help him.

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 1:59am; Reply: 33
a brother of mine had AS once......
he s a true believer of BTD now!!

it has helped him enormously! )
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 2:34am; Reply: 34
Quoted from lola


Thank you!!!!!   ;D
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 2:42am; Reply: 35
Quoted from southernkitty
Sasha, hang in there. We all make those stumbles at times. I have stumbled and eaten things that are an avoid and I also suffered for it. I do believe this way of eating takes a lot of determination and committment, but when you lose some of your determination and some of your committment (or your husband loses his); don't give up. Think of how good you have felt the last 6-7 days except for one bad day. Hey 6 out of 7 days feeling good sure beats 7 out of 7 feeling bad! I don't know if  the butter caused the inflamation to come back, but if eliminating it made the pain go away, then be sure to find a good substitute for the butter. As an "O" I can't have popcorn and I love it, I also can't have peanut butter and that was my favorite spread and favorite snack peanut butter crackers. So, now for a snack I had a rice cake with this bean butter I found at the HFS that taste a lot like peanut butter with none of my avoids in it, I spread it on the rice cake, topped it with some walnuts (I can't have pecans or peanuts) and then sliced 1/2 a banana up on it. Delicious and filling. You get very creative on this way of eating and I have totally made some messes! Pumpkin is in season and I took a pumpkin recipe and substituted the avoids for things that were good for me and instead of the bread they called for I used Ezekiel Bread, it was awful, but I had fun experimenting even though I had to throw it out. I would like to encourage you to hang in there, when you make a mistake, get beyond it and go on. After all we aren't eating fast foods anymore, fast foods that destroy the body and the mind. I wish I had enough encouraging words for you, but I don't, so I will just say don't beat yourself up over your stumbles, just get up and go on, you won't regret it.


Thank you so much!!I really do like getting creative, but I find I am grocery shopping all the time too, but I am stocking up now slowly so there is always something to cook or snack on...hey we gotta have our snacks!
You did have encourageing words, and I thank you for that....I just need to stay on this, and I believe I can. Not only am I more pain free, but I feel healthier, everything feels so much better already. Imagine what next year will be like! Wow!
Thanks again!

Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 2:44am; Reply: 36
Quoted from zola
Sandra - as an A nonnie I can't eat popcorn either. Try this tasty and satisfying alternative:

Rice Cake "popcorn"

For an awesome chocolate fix check out TypeBase4 for the Omega-3 chocolate (I make it into truffles). Mmm. Mmm goooood!


This sounds really good for me, as I can have those when I don't want the popcorn.
The chocolate fix sounds good, will check that out too.  :P  Yummy!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 2:47am; Reply: 37
Quoted from zola
I met a young kid at a clinic that got diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis. I think A's are more prone to this. I never would have had an appreciation for AS and it's pains if it weren't for him.

Have you looked up the protocol for AS in Dr D's BTD Encyclopedia?




Hi, no I haven't looked it up in Dr. D's BTD Encyclopedia. I will now, thank you.
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 3:58am; Reply: 38
Here's a variation of Zola's rice cake "popcorn":

Before crumbling the rice cakes, lightly toast them in your toaster.  It really brings out the flavor.  Then you can drizzle your olive oil, or, in my case...Ghee....and then toss with Nutri. Yeast.

Sasha and Southern Kitty, Thank you both so much for inspiring us all.  We are all in this together, and I love the sense of community we have here.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 4:05am; Reply: 39
Quoted from lola
a brother of mine had AS once......
he s a true believer of BTD now!!

it has helped him enormously! )


Well I can believe it! That is such good news that it helped him that much. I have not spoken with anyone yet that has AS.
Sorry, but you said "had AS once", are you saying he doesn't have it anymore???    ??  ??)  :-/  I have never heard that it can go away, I don't know very much about it, but if so this is the best news I have heard in a while.
Can you tell me more how he is doing now, is he still on the diet?
Thanks!


Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 4:22am; Reply: 40
Quoted from Victoria
Here's a variation of Zola's rice cake "popcorn":

Before crumbling the rice cakes, lightly toast them in your toaster.  It really brings out the flavor.  Then you can drizzle your olive oil, or, in my case...Ghee....and then toss with Nutri. Yeast.

Sasha and Southern Kitty, Thank you both so much for inspiring us all.  We are all in this together, and I love the sense of community we have here.


Thank you, I passed the popcorn recipes onto a friend as well.....
Your right, a sense of community is what I think we all need in order to do this, it's a great feeling isn't it? I'm still new and have very high hopes, I don't see myself bailing anytime soon, or at all!!! Love it, it's easy and you just put your mind to it and ask questions...I hope to start helping others soon too.   :D
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 5:03am; Reply: 41
As the years pass, this way of life feels more and more "RIGHT".  And we feel more and more grounded in living in harmony with our bodies, learning to understand what our bodies need and what they are telling us.  
Most of us are amazed at how little we understood before, and how much we are growing.  Even those of us who really tried to eat healthy foods, we find that this way of life helps us be perceptive, and less inclined to force some generalized concept of health upon our poor bodies.  
It is like peeling layers away from an onion; progressively we find that there are more depths to this growth than we realized, and it is really a path to self-awareness.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 5:54am; Reply: 42
sasha,
well yes actually, he hasn t had a problem since.........
he is quite compliant and took BTscience seriously from the start.

it has been years that i haven t heard a complaint.
Posted by: Vicki, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 7:44pm; Reply: 43
Lola,

Would he be willing to share his story?  I would like to send it to a friend.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 10:28pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from lola
sasha,
well yes actually, he hasn t had a problem since.........
he is quite compliant and took BTscience seriously from the start.

it has been years that i haven t heard a complaint.


Thank you for letting me know that. I was told that you can go say..10 years and feel good, and then it comes back. I think that staying on this diet for many reasons will probably certainly lessen any symptoms and if fact start to reverse some as well, despite what the Dr.s say.I will be starting my excersise program designed for my back soon, just taking baby steps for now. Great success story, thanks for sharing!  ;)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 10:29pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Sasha


Thank you for letting me know that. I was told that you can go say..10 years and feel good, and then it comes back. I think that staying on this diet for many reasons will probably certainly lessen any symptoms and in fact start to reverse some as well, despite what the Dr.s say.I will be starting my excersise program designed for my back soon, just taking baby steps for now. Great success story, thanks for sharing!  ;)


Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 6, 2005, 10:41pm; Reply: 46
Ooops, hit the wrong keys and did a post of my own!
My husband ate chinese food last night and had a terrible bout in the washroom this morning...super loose bowels. He has been very good for a while now, then this.(he is half on the BTD but takes a product called Umac Core, has made him regular and no pains anymore..has IBS)  I didn't eat it and felt fine, as before most times eating chinese I would not feel so great  (stomach wise) even with out the msg. Now I see all the pork, beef and peppers and oyster sauce, deep fried prawns etc. that I was eating are AVOIDS for me. Some of the veggies are good but it's the sauce they make....no-no, never again for me. I'll make my own stir frey.
My arthritis pain was very low today and had no pains elsewhere....it's so good to get a full good nights sleep!!!
Hurrah hurrah!!!   ;D
Posted by: Vicki, Sunday, November 6, 2005, 11:31pm; Reply: 47
At chinese restaurants they use a lot of corn starch in the sauces.  I know the noodles in asian markets mostly all have wheat in them even the rice or buckwheat noodles.  You are very likely a non-secretor which makes wheat and corn and sugars avoids.  I'm so glad you found the Arthritis book and have shared your story!
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Monday, November 7, 2005, 12:09am; Reply: 48
I had been eating organic whole-wheat pasta for many years (and had found a couple of really top-notch brands), so was disappointed to realize that it's an Avoid for me.

So far, I have found two brands of organic whole-grain pasta that are OK for A nonnies.  We have tried the Vita Spelt whole-grain rotini and angel hair and thought they were both good, so we just ordered some more of their pasta from our food coop.  (They also make white-spelt pasta for those who are used to the grocery-store kind -- we have not tried it.)  We also just bought some Lundberg brown-rice rotini and penne, but have not had a chance to try them yet.  Both of these brands are available at most natural-food stores.

Melissa, after reading your testimonial, I just did a Google search and checked out Tinkyada's web site, and am delighted to see that they make FIVE shapes of organic brown-rice pasta.  Now I'm eager to compare their products with Lundberg's, but I don't recall ever seeing them in the store.  I see that they're made in Canada -- are they available in the U.S.?  Are they sold in grocery stores or natural-food stores, or what?

My goodness -- I didn't notice there was a second page of posts.

Vicki, thanks for pointing out that Chinese restaurants use corn starch in their sauces.  I've read enough Chinese cookbooks that I should have thought of that.  Darn!  Here I thought there were a couple kinds of restaurants that I could eat in safely (by picking and choosing, of course).  Does anybody have any caveats regarding Indian restaurants?  (She asked as she cringed....)

Also, thanks Zola and Victoria for the rice-cake "popcorn" ideas!  Now I can have my own treat when hubbie has his Sunday-afternoon popcorn -- using Zola's recommended Lundberg rice cakes of course!  They're the only brand worth eating.  (All the rest I've tried appear to be made out of styrofoam.)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Monday, November 7, 2005, 3:49am; Reply: 49
Quoted from Vicki
At chinese restaurants they use a lot of corn starch in the sauces.  I know the noodles in asian markets mostly all have wheat in them even the rice or buckwheat noodles.  You are very likely a non-secretor which makes wheat and corn and sugars avoids.  I'm so glad you found the Arthritis book and have shared your story!

I see my Dr. Thursday, I'm asking her to send me for tests to find out if I am a secretor or non.(I can just see her face now when I tell her what I have been up to)  I have stayed away for corn, except had popcorn, no wheat but have had very little sugar, if any at all. I don't crave it.....I'm craving my chips, all kinds and flavours! This is a hard one for me.
The Arthritis book has been great, I was very surprised to see it in the bookstore in the Arthritis section. As soon as I saw it, I knew it was the one to get. I also picked up the handbook for A's, nice and small to keep in my purse to pull out at any time.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, November 7, 2005, 3:03pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from Sasha
You're right, a sense of community is what I think we all need in order to do this, it's a great feeling isn't it? I'm still new and have very high hopes, I don't see myself bailing anytime soon, or at all!!! Love it, it's easy and you just put your mind to it and ask questions...I hope to start helping others soon too.   :D

That's the 'tude, Sasha!  I have a chronic back prob, too, and I know it is easy to become frightened and discouraged when it flares up, but just think (as you are) about how much less frequent your pain/symptoms are already, and you have only been BTDing a short time.  You will probably have your health challenge for a lifetime, with ups and downs, but I really believe that the BTD will make the downs so much fewer and farther between.  Eventually, you may stabilize to the point that any symptoms are a rarity and that is the hope!  Please stick with it as you are, as I really feel (make that "know", she said confidently!) that you are in the right place.  You won't be perfect, sometimes you'll eat an avoid or three, but stick with it, don't give up if you have a setback of any kind.  You will learn, also, what to substitute for what, so that you can still enjoy a bounty of delicious treats but ones that are kind to your bod.

You are on the right track.  Hang in there when symptoms flare, because truly I can't say strongly enough how much I know that this diet is the best at feeding your bod foods in harmony with its needs and which thus are anti-inflammatory, nourishing, and healing to the max.  Stick with it!

Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Tuesday, November 8, 2005, 4:09am; Reply: 51
;D A big thank you for more great words of encouragement!
I have just started to realize that I will have chronic pain probably forever, think I am accepting it better now. I know this is due to the fact that I have made great leaps already at feeling so much better on the BTD. If I have to live like this, I am thankful I am alive and a little pain is better than not being here at all.
This feeling of well being is so wonderful!

I see how the BTD has made a huge improvement is peoples lives just reading these boards, from weight loos, to some very serious illnesses, the BTD has become a saviour to so many.

Avoids...yup, did it again! How can I be so stupid?? I think sometimes it's like a game, I challenge myself to see if something won't agree with me.Twice now! UGH! Made fet. alfredo for hubby, you know the usual old way....course I had some, but really only about 1/2 a cup, I had my chicken my usual load of veggies.....now my stomach is asking what I put in there???
It says in week 2 in my book to try to avoid all the avoids now, well I did that day one. I started the diet as if I had been on it a lifetime, no weening in for me. So much for reading directions, but I felt I was ready to go full force if it would help stop the pain and give me some sleep.
Still off the pain killers too BTW!!
Thanks again for the kind words!!   ;)
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Tuesday, November 8, 2005, 4:21pm; Reply: 52
Sasha,  I can say without reservation that this board has been here when I needed them and now that I am gaining more ground every day, I hope to be here when someone needs me. Please keep in mind that you have been on this a short time and as you said you started as if you had been on it a lifetime, plus you stopped pain killers so probably some of what you are going through is still detox. Are you drinking a lot of water? I know when I had my fast heartbeat episode and I spent 24 hours in the hospital and they pumped all kinds of stuff into my body, it took almost two weeks to get it all out. I don't know how long you have been on pain killers, but I am sure it will take awhile to get it out. I have found that water helped me a lot when I was going through the detox of my body. Remember, our bodies are mostly water and when it is depleted it starts pulling from any source it can and that can be our muscles etc. That can be painful. I find when I am hydrated, my whole body is in harmony. My skin is softer, my bones ache less and my hair even does better. Two of the best books I have ever read is "You Are Not Sick You Are Thirsty" and "Water Cures, Drugs Kill" by F. Batmanghelidj M.D., website http://www.watercure.com. I have incorporated his information on water into my BTD diet and find it is a perfect marriage. I used to love sweet tea (southern girl sweet tea) and drank it everyday, now all I drink daily is green tea decaffinated naturally, pure pineapple juice (this is my treat drink) and water. I don't even think of anything else to drink. I have tried other things and couldn't get past a couple of sips, tasted awful to me. Love the taste of water. (not tap water please). Sasha, it appears that you have the determination and willpower so don't let time be a part of what you are doing. In this day and time we all are programmed for instant gratification and we want things to happen yesterday and are not willing to wait for the best results. Waiting can be a virtue to work toward. I know it is hard when you have someone around you who is eating what may taste better initially, but in a few hours, you taste it again and it doesn't taste so good then.  Sasha, I'm here for you, keep going just don't look at the calendar while doing it.
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Tuesday, November 8, 2005, 4:38pm; Reply: 53
Sasha, there are a couple of blogger articles you need to check out, it will encourage you, it did me. See Suzanne Graham's Blog 11/06 "I Had A Plan"; Linda Wells Update 10/30, "I can't let go yet and singing." and Cassandra Dwight "Another Quick Update." Everyone has their challenges, it is good to read about them every so often, I love honesty and I see it so often on this site.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 3:24am; Reply: 54
Southern Kitty.how are you? Thanks for all the great information and inspiration ance again.
As for pain  killers I have not taken them for a while, and not often at all, I chose not to cause of all the damage they do. One time my heart was going so fast it scared me, I didn't sleep all night, afraid to. So I really have not taken them a lot at all. A couple weeks back I took one before bed maybe 3 times that week cause the pains were unbearable and I was so run down from getting no sleep. That would be the most in ages in one week. I would usually try a herbal rub or an epsum salt bath.
I am going to go read  those blogs now that you suggested, that is very kind of you to do that. I am still trying to read as much as I can on the boards with what little time I have. Just figued out how to save a thread, as I often forgot where I was and can't find my way back! LOL!
Thanks and have a good night!!
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 3:50am; Reply: 55
Sasha,
I doubt if any of us have begun the BTD and never again ate an avoid!  I think you are like all of us. . . .(A Human Being) :-)

You may have your aches and pains for the rest of your life, but I believe with all my heart that if you follow your blood type recommendations, you will have MUCH LESS discomfort and MUCH MORE quality of life.  You will come to love the way you eat because your body will let you know again and again that it is the right thing for your health.

It gets easier to stay away from foods that are not good for you because your tastes change and you stop craving things that make you feel worse.  
Stay in touch with us.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 3:59am; Reply: 56
:) Great advice Victoria. I have been doing some reading just now and I see that many make mistakes and have avoids, funny, they all sure regret it  too. My tastes are changing a little and the cravings are almost gone, just a pinch here and there. I am almost never hungry, that is great, I used to always feel hungry and of course would go for the chips!! Bot now. I need to up the water thing though. My problem is I am a sales rep. and I need to often use a public washroom which can be difficult at times, some can be pretty nasty but that is another story. When I get  home I drink as much as I can, I do manage to get 3 cups of green tea a day in though.
Thank you!!!
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 4:13am; Reply: 57
Drink water, and carry disposable seat covers!

:-)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 4:39am; Reply: 58
Quoted from Victoria
Drink water, and carry disposable seat covers!

:-)


;D Too funny!!!!!!

Posted by: CarolD (Guest), Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 8:06pm; Reply: 59
Hi Sasha
What a great story, It's exciting when your health improves so quickly!! Keep up the good work!!
Regards Carol  8)
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 8:15pm; Reply: 60
Sasha, I know how it is to work and try to drink a lot of water and it is difficult to drink it all when you get home because then you are up all night and that is a problem also. Just do the best you can because water is so important in our bodies and none of us get enough. I am retired now so it is not so hard for me to drink my water, but it is when I go somewhere. I am feeling real good, hardly any pain anywhere now except in my left shoulder that seems to be the one I like to sleep on, which doesn't help matters. I have started the body scrub that is on one of the blogs and believe it or not that seems to really help with circulation, I know it is invigorating! I think there are so many healthy things we can do for our bodies if we just take the time to do it. Sasha, I think Victoria meant to buy those throw-a-way paper toilet seat covers that you can keep with you when you have to enter the nasty bathrooms. The water is so important, I just can't tell you how important, you will just have to see how much better you feel when you drink pure water and as much as possible. The green tea is good too, but nothing is better than the pure water. With that said, let me encourage you to again take things slowly and don't get overwhelmed with all of these changes and suggestions. If you are a sales rep. that means you are a "go-getter" and you want to get things done right away and want to see the results of your efforts right away. I know because my career background was media, marketing and then my last few years of work was in disaster services so I probably have a similiar personality. I have learned that some things are worth doing slowly. If you can add 1-2 extra glasses of water to your routine daily to start, do  that and then increase as you can. You were talking about following certain threads. If I want to know if someone has replied to a thread I don't use "Quick Reply" but go to the reply in the post and you can check that you want to receive an e-mail when someone replies to the post and that way you never lose track of that particular post. There may be an easier way, I just discovered this one while playing around with the site. Hang in there, we will be here for you, feel better!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 10, 2005, 12:32am; Reply: 61
:) Thanks SK!
Ok, that made me laugh, I guess she did mean the seat cover throw aways, but honestly, I don't sit on the seats anyhow no matter where I am, but some of the washrooms are just so plain filthy to enter or stink so bad!
Yup, you got it right, I am a go getter and I do want things done..like yesterday.
I tried that body scrub years and years ago, but good idea, I will start again. I tend to be having lots more epsum salt baths now and needing the time to relax in a tub...no phones, no cells, no nothing but me and peaceful tranquility!
Also good idea to start slow on the water and work up, I know I don't get enough, always has been a problem except when I was working out, I always put the water away all day long no matter what. I was not reping at that time so it was easier.
Sounds to me like your doing really well now....how does your family react to this?
They must be happy for you? Well, when they start to have problems of they're own, they just might come asking for advice, you never know. For now I am just going to work with myself and offer advice when I feel fit to do so.
Thanks and you  too keep up with your BTD, somehow I know you will and always will!!!!
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:26am; Reply: 62
Sasha, I just knew you were probably an "A" personality, you just sounded like a younger me.  ;D The relaxing in the tub is a perfect solution to a long day. I am doing real well, it takes determination and resolve to stick with all of the changes. I truly miss certain foods and I am almost afraid to eat out because I don't know what is in the food, that makes it hard when someone calls to go eat.  :'( I just tell them for now I am sticking to getting my body well and I am eating at home and then I invite them to come over. I know they might be getting a few avoids if they are not my blood type, but they probably don't know the difference in feeling bad from eating at a restaurant and feeling bad eating at my house. Most of the time they love what I fix, so I am sure it is okay for them. I can make a really good stir fry with veggies, shrimp or chicken and brown rice or rice noodles. I just want to continue feeling good so I will continue doing what is best for me right now and not worry about hurting anyones feelings. My children who came to the hospital with me when I had the heartbeat problem, just want me to be well so they just kid me once in awhile about what I eat, but are not upset with my change in eating. In fact one of my daughter-in-laws is watching labels for certain things like MSG. Thanksgiving will probably be my test for temptation as it will probably be for many of us. My grandson has requested my famous family receipe banana pudding, my sons have requested my cornbread dressing which has a ton of avoids for me, my daughter-in-law is making red velvet cake, which I love. So I am now putting together my own menu for myself so I can heap up my plate with good foods and it won't look like I am starving myself. I have learned to make a really good sweet potato dish with walnuts and honey. I am making a turkey, so I will have a lot of meat. I will have lots of good veggies. None of them like cranberrys so I will fix a fresh cranberry dish for me, they will all avoid that! I can't do much about the dressing, just can't eat it,  :X but will keep looking for receipes so I can maybe make one good for me. The banana pudding will be hard as it was my mothers receipe.  :'( I will make it through that day and in turn may find some new recipes that can become a tradition for me. Keep going, Shasa you will make it.
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Thursday, November 10, 2005, 2:58pm; Reply: 63
Southern Kitty, if you like wheat-bread dressing, you could make something similar out of spelt bread (either store-bought or homemade) or Ezekiel bread.  That would be enough different from the cornbread type that the rest of your family might like to have some of both.

As for the banana pudding, you can have bananas, so you can have banana pudding!  But an O-complient version might seem like it was trying (and failing) to be your mother's recipe.  Maybe best to be different but good, like you say.

Hey, I just noticed that the bar at the end of each page of a thread (where you can click on a page number at the left side) has a button on the right side that says Notify.  Apparently, you don't even have to post to a thread to get emails when somebody else does.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 10, 2005, 4:12pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from CarolD
Hi Sasha
What a great story, It's exciting when your health improves so quickly!! Keep up the good work!!
Regards Carol  8)

Thank you CarolID!!!
:)

Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 10, 2005, 4:19pm; Reply: 65
SK, I wish I was an O and I could be at your house for Thanksgiving! Sounds delicious!!! Being Canadian we have had our Thanksgiving, I wasn't on the BTD then...all big celebrations are at our house now, I do the cooking....my next one is Christmas,  I think I will start planning a meal!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 10, 2005, 4:38pm; Reply: 66
:'( What a bad morning I am having! I have walked out most the pain, now I have sat down here at the puter to say a few words and do some reading before I head out to my Dr.'s appointment.
Wondering if anyone knows if this pain can be contributed to standing for the last 2 days for about 7 and a half hours? At my job they have me helping out wrapping Xmas gifts for parties we do for big companies. Also, some heavyish lifting and dragging large boxes 50 feet. Usually I drive for 20 minutes, get out, walk around for 30 -60 minutes or more, get back in my car, drive some more and repeat. (I am a sales rep) I tend to be fine doing this. Just wondering if it's too much strain in my lower back and has caused the inflamation to flare up? Or if I am just not used to it and to keep doing it until I build strength again?
Today is day 12 on my BTD, the worst day I have felt so far, it has been so great to be almost pain free, and then this.  What a let down.
I will be back later today after my Dr. visit to find out FOR SURE what my condition is. All my tests results are in now. She had previously said she believes almost for sure that I have Spondylitis......we'll see now.
Bye for now good friends and we'll chat later!!
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, November 10, 2005, 6:17pm; Reply: 67
Sasha,
So sorry about your major aches and pains!  All that unaccustomed labor is bound to make any situation worse.  If your body was used to that pattern of work, it probably wouldn't impact you so strongly.

Let us know what you find out, and at least then, you will know what you are dealing with.  

No matter what it is, stay with the blood type lifestyle!  :-)
Posted by: mhameline, Thursday, November 10, 2005, 7:16pm; Reply: 68
Sasha, sorry to hear about your pain today - that must be frustrating.  

I was wondering if you've continued to be compliant?  And if so you may be going through a period of detoxing from avoids you were previosly consuming - and unfortunatley the dexoting can be quite a painful experience.  I'm in the middle of a detox right now from indulging for quite a while in some major avoids and it is no fun.  I'm just wondering if that might be what's going on for you.  Make sure and drink plenty of water - especially if it's detox you're going through.  

I hope your dr's appointment goes well.  
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Friday, November 11, 2005, 1:14am; Reply: 69
Sasha, hang in there. This is for you, turn up your sound, sit back and soak in the message.

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Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, November 11, 2005, 5:22am; Reply: 70
Hello everyone.....well not a great day today with my Dr. visit. It wasn't what I wanted to hear. If you don't mind later or tomorrow I will tell you more and I will type out the xray report.  Maybe someone can help me figure it out a little better. The Dr. thinks I am fine, but there is always that doubt. For now I will say that  it is not Spondylitis, yes it shocked both my Dr. and myself. I will be booked for a ct scan, but could take 3-4 months, that's our health plan for you here in Canada. I still have faith in the BTD and will stay with it. She said to keep doing it if it makes me feel better. She also gave me a referal to get my secretor test done which I am happy about and can't wait to go. Maybe then at least I can have some sweet potato, seems the closest to potato I will get if I am a nonnie. More important so I can pin point my foods more accurately.
Thanks everyone, I appreciate you all helping me get through this. I will reply back to you all soon,ok?
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, November 11, 2005, 5:14pm; Reply: 71
Sasha,
Thank you for taking the time to update us, even though you are under your own stresses.  I guess it's just that we care about each other here on this forum.  When you are ready, sit down with us for a Meeting of the Minds.

Blessings,
V.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 11, 2005, 8:27pm; Reply: 72
Hey, girl, didn't have time to really read what's been added to this whole thread since last I lighted here, as it is very substantive, but wanted to respond to a few things real quick like, as in about another hour, I'm off line for the weekend:

1.  Fettucini Alfredo:  If you are going to make this, go to the HFS and get some Pastariso brand 100% stoneground rice pasta instead of using the wheat spaghetti or fettucini noodles.  It is every bit as good if not better.  There are other rice pasta brands you could try, too (read ingredients labels to make sure they don't sneak some wheat in there).

2.  Sounds to me like GOOD news from the doctor, no?  You do NOT have what you thought you did, so why is that "not what I wanted to hear"?  You mean because now you don't know what is going on?  Hey, I think that is okay for now and better than having what you thought you had!!!  You now have the hope of really getting yourself back to optimal back/spine health, as maybe you just have a temporary thing, and if you eat right for your type, go to the chiropractor, and learn about stretches you can do at home and proper posture, sitting, standing, etc., you could be right as rain!  This is all good, girl!!!  btw, if I were to stand for 7-1/2 hours straight, my back would be in dire, dire straights.  I could not work in retail for this reason, not with my back prob.  I can WALK for miles, but just STANDING around, no, no way, nein danke, na ga da, wouldn't be prudent at this juncture!  Anyway, unless I scanned your post about the doctor visit too fast and missed something, to me it sounds like wonderful news!!!!  Not knowing what is wrong can be frightening, true, but if he thinks you are "fine", that's GOOD, as it means nothing is really showing up!!!!  That doesn't mean you aren't in pain, and I understand that you really want to find out WHY, but it probably means it is something in the soft tissue and, like I said, if you learn proper posture, standing, sitting and stretching, etc. now, you could be FINE.  My best advice to you, besides sticking to the BTD, is this:  Find yourself not only a good chiropractor, but a good hatha yoga class.  Hatha yoga is the best thing in the world for achieving correct spinal alignment, among other things, all of which promote optimal back health, as well as all-around optimal health.

BTD, yoga, chiro!  And after 7-1/2 hours of standing, do this:

Yoga "extended child" pose http://yoga.org.nz/postures/childs_yoga_instruction.htm (#4 in the "instruction table" is the actual pose/position/asana/stretch itself)

Oh yeah, babe.  Doing the extended child pose twice per day and whenever my back feels irritated has been a big help in keeping it stable, just as the chiro suggested it would be.  He didn't call it the "extended child" pose, though.  I asked him once if there was anything I could be doing at home to help keep my back stable, to keep it from "going out" on me again, and he demonstrated this.  I said "Oh, you mean the child's pose!"  Blank look.  "That's the child's pose in yoga, it's a yoga pose!"  Well, now he is all interested in yoga and meanwhile, I have rediscovered a pose that is a must-do for me.  I first took yoga at age 17 and, if only I'd really stuck with it, I just might not have the prob I have now...although who knows.  It is congenital/structural, so all the proper alignment and stretching/strengthening in the world might not have made enough diff.  But doing this one little stretch/pose twice per day really does help me now to keep my back stable!

Also, get a FLAT cold pack from the chiro, freeze it, and then put it behind your lower back 15 minutes on/15 off, 15 on/off, repeating this when your back is seizing up, or when it is irritated from standing, etc.

Sorry this post is so rushed.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 11, 2005, 8:41pm; Reply: 73
P.S.  Sasha, I didn't emphasize this in my post above, so it needs its own post:  While I'm not at all sure what is going on with your back (you haven't elaborated much), I can tell that you could probably benefit from finding a GOOD chiropractor.  Is chiropractic covered under the Canadian plan?  Gosh, I hope so, as a good chiro could really help you, I'll bet.

Have a great weekend!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, November 11, 2005, 10:44pm; Reply: 74
:) Hi! I really do not have the time right now to tell the whole story and to write out the xray REPORT but first off, thanks all of you for so much information...this really helps me a lot! And I mean a lot!
Briefly....I am to be booked for a ct scan, they say more than likely not, but they do not want to rule out sclerotic metastasis. The later meaning cancer.
Geese, this has me feeling the pits! Some scoliosis which I knew about and some sacralization blh blah blah.
I'll get this to you asap....I hope to get some help with this from you guys, I really do not know where else to turn too. I told the family and geese, it's like..what's scoliosis, what's this, what's that. I can't deal with that, need people who understand, cause I am trying to too. Julia has been a big help, my friend from here.
I'm working on getting a second set of xrays and a good chiro is on the go, all this week. Also my secretor test...did I already say that?
OK, gotta go for now and get some reading done and just stuff with a cup of g tea.
Thanks all.....xoxo Bless all your wonderful hearts! xoxo
Posted by: Victoria, Friday, November 11, 2005, 11:29pm; Reply: 75
Bless your wonderful heart too, Sasha!  :-)

Listen, why don't you get yourself a copy of Dr. D's Cancer book and start working those protocols, just in case.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 13, 2005, 2:25am; Reply: 76
Quoted from Victoria
Bless your wonderful heart too, Sasha!  :-)

Listen, why don't you get yourself a copy of Dr. D's Cancer book and start working those protocols, just in case.



I looked today at Chapters Book Store where I get all my books and it wasn't there nor was it in the database. I'll have to keep looking for it or try to get it ordered in.
I know I saw it on a list, internet, from a book... somewhere, now I can't find it.
Does anyone have the ISBN number for it? I'll call it in in as soon as I get that.
Thank you.  :)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 13, 2005, 2:32am; Reply: 77
Quoted from southernkitty
Sasha, there are a couple of blogger articles you need to check out, it will encourage you, it did me. See Suzanne Graham's Blog 11/06 "I Had A Plan"; Linda Wells Update 10/30, "I can't let go yet and singing." and Cassandra Dwight "Another Quick Update." Everyone has their challenges, it is good to read about them every so often, I love honesty and I see it so often on this site.


Hi, I read all those articles you suggested as well as many more! I also have been drinking the water big time, I'm enjoying that.
I haven't listened to the music one you sent yet..probably in a little while later on tonight. Thanks so much!
How are you doing? I hope things are going great for you.
I'm going to post a message shortly here tonight to you all, sorry it wasn't sooner but I seriously have been on the phone or out at HFS's and book stores, chiros, you name it. I set a side tonight to have some peaceful time for myself. Got the hubby going with a dvd, he's happy, the big type O dog is walked and fed...we're all good to go now.
Chat soon!   :)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 13, 2005, 3:46am; Reply: 78
Hello friends  :) And I really mean that.
I seem to be feeling better today mentally and physically. I have stuck with the Arthritis Diet, cause that's all I know. I do have the regular Blood Type A Food and Beverage and Supplement LISTS handbook, I use it for shopping lots.
Anyhow, if you have been following, I started the BTD 2 weeks ago, I felt fantastic the first day! I could not believe it. I started the diet for Arthritis, because my Dr. said she was positive I had Spondylitis. The pain  and all the symptoms related to that. I have had this pain for going on 2 years really when I look back, and before that chronic every day type of back pain on and off, sometimes real bad ones where you can not walk, go to work, nothing. Just used chiros to help with that. The odd anti-inflamatory throughout this whole thing. (don't like to take prescription pills).
Anyways, I started the diet right away even before the tesy results came in. I have never felt so good, and not just my back, it was everything, my whole being!
I could not believe how well this diet was working.
Last Thursday I went to the Dr.'s to get my test results back...we were both shocked at how my blood work (testing for arthritis) was normal. I said to her that I had inflamation that very morning, so for sure it should have showed up in the blood work. She said yes it should have. Then.....she goes on to show me the written report of the Xrays. It reads:
                                          REPORT

LUMBAR SPINE

No comparison

Mild levoconvex lumbar spine curvature, this could represent mild scoliosis.

On the frontal file there appears to be sacralization of L5, with 4 lumbar type vertebral bodies seen.

Based on this assesment, there is mild narrowing at L5-S1, with endplate sclerosis noted, sclerosis at the anterior aspect of what I am labeling the L4 vertebral body on the lateral film is seen. Clinical correlation is required. It is possible this relates to degenerative change, but I can not entirely rule out the possibility of sclerotic metastasis.
More likely this is due to degenerative change or artifact due overlap with adjacent iliac crest and bowel gas pattern.

Clinical correlation is advised. Follow up coned down view may be performed for further assessment

No other significant osseous abnormalities are noted as seen.

SACROILIAC JOINTS

Normal findings.


So that is what the xray report says, so what has me worried, first of all is the statement about the sclerotic metasasis. I realize that is says more than likely it is due to degenerative change....but does one really know????
What also appears to be strange is why has the diet worked so well for me if there is no arthritis?? What is all the pain from, it feels numb and deep deep pain when I walk. I am thinking now that it must be a pinched nerve from sleeping.      I am really 95% better sinse starting the diet. My Dr. said to keep doing it if it makes me feel better. (she didn't know too much about it).
I am starting to get over the shock of the possible cancer thing, the more I read this report and talk to people I try to be positive and see that it is only a slim factor, but always that chance, afterall there is something there the technicians saw right? I am not so worried about the rest of it as I know it is common somewhat, and others worse off than myself and they seem to be leading productive lives and not even on the BTD I bet! Today I bought  Louise Solomons Yoga and Pilates dvd. I start that tonight. I know I need to work on posture and strengthening again. I looked into a good chiro and I go next week. I will get him to do another set of xrays, I really want a second set done as well as pick up my first set, would like him to see them. I had my period that day I went to get the xrays (they told me to so they would know I was not preggy....as if..me at 42, no way! hee hee) I am wondering of the "artifact due overlap with...." was it a tampon they saw, and of course I was probably full of gas with all this broccoli!! Anyone out there read xray reports? My Dr. was quite vague about all this and realy she kept saying don't worry I am sure you are just fine, you'd know if you had cancer, you would not be well. OK, so it's in the first stages and I don't notice. My gosh lots of cancers go by un detected.
I am thankful I do not have arthritis as well, not sure which is the worst, but whatever I need to do to reverse this I will do it...I know we must be able to heal or slow down the process of degenerative bones, right? As for the cancer thng, I need to just deal with it, one step at a time. Get the ct scan done and over with.
I could not find Dr. D'Adamo's Cancer book.Have to work on that. I have gone on so long now and I probably talked in circles. My main focus is to stick with the diet, I really do enjoy it and I lost 4 pounds now as a bonus. 8 more to go, whenever it decides to leave is fine with me. I seemed to have packed on a few extra these past couple of years with this back thing, so eating this way definatly has it's advantages no matter where you sit!
As far as detoxing goes, I'm sort of wondering if that is going on a bit. I honestly was not the most unhealthy eater around really, but the last few days I have felt a little different, almost headachy too. (did I ever mention I have not had ONE headache sinse I started the diet) Very uncommon to go 2 weeks with out one.

For anyone out there reading this that is new to the BTD, I urge you to stay with it and don't give up. There is so much help out there and so many great people to be there for you. I can not even dream of going back to my steak and potatos! Ok, I lied! No really, the cravings go away as you get healthier. Ease your way into it if you need to.

I had better get going to go do some Yoga, all new to me, but I now need to work on my posture....many of you stress that....thanks!
Any suggestions please let me know, I appreciate it.
Chat soon. xoxo
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 13, 2005, 3:56am; Reply: 79
sasha,
wonderful report!!!
keep up the great work!)
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, November 13, 2005, 6:00am; Reply: 80
The ISBN # for the Cancer Book, if you want to get it is:
0-399-15101-X
It is also available through the Blood Type Store, at the top right-hand corner of this page.

Do you have a copy of Live Right 4 Your Type?  It's a great, great book to have, covers the whole life approach for your blood type, no matter what may be ailing us.
Maybe you mentioned having this book, but I haven't read back through your previous posts tonight.  If it turns out that this is not at all related to cancer, LR4YT may be completely all you need!

What did the doctor recommend as a way of determining what is actually going on?
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 13, 2005, 8:01pm; Reply: 81
Quoted from Victoria
The ISBN # for the Cancer Book, if you want to get it is:
0-399-15101-X
It is also available through the Blood Type Store, at the top right-hand corner of this page.

Do you have a copy of Live Right 4 Your Type?  It's a great, great book to have, covers the whole life approach for your blood type, no matter what may be ailing us.
Maybe you mentioned having this book, but I haven't read back through your previous posts tonight.  If it turns out that this is not at all related to cancer, LR4YT may be completely all you need!

What did the doctor recommend as a way of determining what is actually going on?


Thanks, I will go order it today at the bookstore, may be easier than ordering on line.
I have LR4YT, but found the arthritis book easier to read, and seeing as that is what  the Dr. was sure I had, I am going with this one. It seems to be working, think maybe the avoids were adding some sort of stress in my body and now are gone. Who knows.
The Dr. only recommened to get a cat scan to "rule out" cancer.As the degeneration "may' be related to it. This may take 2-4 months to get the appointment date. YIKES, a long wait. Meanwhile she said to just keep doing what I am doing with my diet if it helps. Try some yoga as well. Basically it was like "too bad so sad, looks like you have some scoliosis and some degenerative stuff going on, deal with it." Not in those words, but thats what she meant I guess cause she had really nothing to say, and here I am in a little bit of shock at this protocol of possible cancer that I didn't ask enough question I supose. She said "see you after you do your cat scan or before if I need to." She stressed that she thought I was just fine and to not worry. I guess she could have sent me for some sort of bloow work, but didn't. My WBC was good, maybe that was enough to satisfy her, don't know.
I will see what the chiro says when he sees the xrays this week.
I will add that I sure feel great today!! Think those yoga poses really helped last night. In the dvd I bought it had the "child pose" that I believe...sorry, it was leaping green suggested. Great advice on that one, cause it sure felt good to do it.
Till later, thanks and chat soon.

Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 13, 2005, 8:04pm; Reply: 82
Found the cancer book at the BTStore, I just didn't go to the next page.....
thanks.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, November 14, 2005, 5:16am; Reply: 83
Hi Sasha,
What some people do, who have multiple issues related to their health, is go through the relevant books and select the foods that rank beneficial or highly beneficial in both (or all) the books that (may) apply to your situation.  And try to emphasize one or two of the primary supplements for both protocols, just in case.

It's the waiting that can stress us in a major way!!  You have every right to call back to the doctor's office and ask further questions, especially if you are confused about what the test meant or what the doctor communicated to you.  Are you scheduling another test?
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, November 14, 2005, 12:58pm; Reply: 84
Sasha, honey, don't panic.  From the report, it really sounds like the cancer is just a slight possibility and the doctor who analyzed the findings doesn't really think it is that, but he just felt the need to point out that it is possible (but not likely!).

One thing that I noticed is that it says under "Lumbar Spine", "no comparison", and I'm wondering if that is a typo and they meant to write "no compression".  If so, if they meant to write "no compression", this is AWESOME!  Very good!  But I'm not sure what they meant to put because later it does say there is a "mild narrowing at L5-S1", but maybe it is so mild that it isn't really "compressed" (again, good news).*  My disc narrowing is L5/S1, too, but mine is VERY narrow, like almost no space, like the two are almost touching and the last x-ray was 2000 so, for all I know, they could be on top of each other by now (because the 2000 x-ray showed them much closer than the 1995 x-ray, and here it is 2005...I should probably get new x-rays, come to think of it...but I'm never one to push for x-rays and, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Right now, I'm sailing along fine).

You know, Sasha, whenever we read a medical report about ourselves it can sound really scary, even if everything is normal.  With backs, virtually everybody veers from the ideal alignment so, when the report is written up on the x-rays, it is going to go into detail on the ways that you vary from the ideal.  But that doesn't mean it is anything bad necessarily!  Take heart!  I can understand your fear over the phrase "sclerotic metastasis", but remember that he followed mentioning that possibility instantly by stating "more likely this is due to degenerative change or artifact due overlap with adjacent iliac crest and bowel gas pattern."  More likely!  So, don't get your knickers in a twist worrying when chances are you do NOT, not, not, NOT have cancer.

And other than that worry, the rest of the report does not sound bad to me!  Especially if they did mean to say "no compression" (and what the heck does "no comparison" mean?  maybe that this is your first, baseline x-ray with them and thus they have nothing to compare it to?  ...come to think of it, it probably does simply mean that...).

Anyway, please, please notice that they said "mild scoliosis" and "mild narrowing", AND "normal findings" in the sacroiliac area, that means you are normal in your sacroiliac joints--trust me, this is GREAT NEWS!  Like I said, even the best medical report can sound scary because of the technical jargon they use!

To me, the worst thing on there is the "mild scoliosis", and you can definitely work with that and have a great quality of life!  So, if that is the worst thing, rejoice, my friend!  Get a good chiropractor, definitely join a hatha yoga class (I need to take my own advice there...but do as I SAY, not as I DO *lol*), and RELAX!

You remind me of myself, girl:  worrywort!  So again, do as I say, not as I do, and don't worry about the "cancer" part of the thing until you hear further because it truly sounds like the doctor does NOT think it is that, but he just can't totally rule it out yet.

I think you are OKAY, at least, it sounds like it to me!  And you are better than okay, because you've found the A diet and this board/community, and things are going to get better from here.  We are all here to help each other.

Courage!

(((BIG HUG)))

* Then again, "sacralization" seems to mean that the L5 is actually down almost fused with the S1, so I dunno how they also say it is only "mild compression" ???  At any rate, I believe that a good chiropractor can really help you to have range of motion and a great quality of life, just like they have done for me.  Like I said, I have (as of 2000, if anything, it would be worse now) almost NO space between L5 and S1, yet I am basically fine and dandaroo here with periodic chiro adjustments.  Take heart!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 4:40am; Reply: 85
:) Peppermint Twist!
What a honey you are! I am so sorry I have not gotten back to you on this really nice letter....it made me feel soooo good, I think this has gotten me through the last couple of days.
Think I got the name wrong and thought it was from someone else, when I posted about this letter "somewhere" out there. sorry if I did that.
You are probably very right, and pretty cool to talk to someone with the same problem practically.
I am very afraid of the C possibility, but you have calmed me down some and I appreciate that. I wonder if they say something like often just in case so people get checked out? You would think that the trained eye would know or not if it were degenerative change for sure.
Friday I see this new great chiro I have lined up and will bring my x-rays to him, I pick those up Wed.
So what the heck is all this pain then? Dr. says it's not arthritis now. Did you get pain at night, and then in the morning it's very bad, can't even get up out of bed some days. As soon as I started my A diet for Arthritis it has gone away almost entirely, some days a bit of pain, but mostly I feel great, anything is great compared to what it was like before. My Dr. never really said anything, just keep doing what I am doing if it makes me feel better. She didn't suggest a chiro, any type of exercises, nothing. Looking back she just didn't have me convinced that there is NOT a problem, although she said she thought I was just fine...besides, what else could she say?
Oh well, for now I will just hangin there and see what happens.
Can't thank you enough for your support and how you disected that report for me!
Your great, and I hope for you  too that you continue to feel good!!!!!!!!
Cheers!
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 4:58am; Reply: 86
Sasha,
We're all fans of Peppermint T. around here!  

And Sasha, Just keep taking care of yourself by eating right and following whatever protocols that you connect with.  That's the best thing to do for all of us, no matter what health concerns we have.  Anxiety is such an energy drain.  You are feeling a lot better by eating better.  That's a concrete thing.  Keep it up.  And talk it all out with your Chiro.  It's great to have as many people as possible on your team that you can trust and talk openly with.  Have a great day!!
V.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 2:50pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from Sasha
:) Peppermint Twist!
What a honey you are!

Guilty as charged!   8)

Quoted from Sasha
I am so sorry I have not gotten back to you on this really nice letter....it made me feel soooo good, I think this has gotten me through the last couple of days.  Think I got the name wrong and thought it was from someone else when I posted about this letter "somewhere" out there. sorry if I did that...

Uh oh...that would probably be MY fault, as I recently (like, yesterday) changed my screen moniker (name).  It was leaping greenly.  However, I plan on sticking with Peppermint Twist now so you don't need to worry about me suddenly morphing into "thekalekid" or something else manana!

Quoted from Sasha
So what the heck is all this pain then? ...

Well, now, that is something that you are going to have to ask your new chiro whom you are going to see with the x-rays.  Back probs are tricky to diagnose, even for a trained person and even with all the x-rays, history, patient, and other information right there to analyze.  I'm just a confused lay person like you, plus I don't know the specifics of your sitch, but if the pain is in the lower back, it sounds like it is due to the "sacralization" of L5 and S1, which sounds similar to my sitch.  Again, a good chiro CAN help you with this.  It may take time and a series of visits close together at first, but trust the process.  When I first went to a chiro, I was very skeptical and leery about the entire thing, including how often they told me to go (like 3 or 4x per week for many weeks at first, if I am remembering correctly...maybe it wasn't 4x per week, but I think it was 3x each week, for weeks on end, and then like 2x per week for months after that, then maybe once per week for several more months, then finally they said I could go on "maintenance" of like once per month).  I had not realized, going in, that chiropractic treatment is a process, not a quick visit or three and you are done.  I have a brother in law now who thinks chiropractic is a bunch of hooey, and his argument is "if it works so well, how come you have to keep going?".  What he doesn't understand (and this is a very American 'tude) is that not everything in life, not every health challenge, can be "fixed".  Some things are chronic.  Now, that said, NOT everyone who gets chiropractic treatment will need ongoing treatment.  Some indeed can go short-term and "fix" their problem, maybe never even needing to go back again, or maybe just very rarely.  But for me, I must go in once per month at least once every 6 weeks MAX.  6 weeks is pushing the envelope.  I try to explain to my BIL that it is like physical therapy, it is an ongoing process, and also that my back STRUCTURE is unstable and so it will keep tending towards that and must keep getting corrected, as, for just one thing, I have one leg significantly shorter than the other (most people's legs are not exactly identical, but mine truly are different enough to have basically caused this whole kit and kaboodle, apparently).  I try to tell him that it is like a diabetic who needs periodic insulin:  if she gets it, she is fine.  If not, she's dead.  But he insists that it is all a racket and, if it "worked", I wouldn't have to keep going back.

The ironic thing is, I used to think like that somewhat, too, because after the first chiro (the one who had me in there 3x per week or more for so long) got me stabilized and wanted me to go on "maintenance" visits of like once per month, I decided "Well, this is all a racket, a money-making scheme!  She just wants me to keep coming in, but I'm on to her!  I'm fine, I don't need this anymore!"  So, I left and never went back.  And, I was okay for a while, but slowly and surely I got worse and worse and then I left that job and that insurance and went through a period of a few years of being terribly underemployed with no insurance and then terrible insurance that I never even dared access because I could tell it was all just smoke and mirrors and not real coverage.  Of course, at the same time, my back was getting worse and worse, because of my brilliant conclusion that "it was all a racket".  By the time I got to where I work now, got decent insurance, AND--and this last one is the kicker--got into enough continual pain and inability to basically function without walking around like Quasi Moto so that I had NO CHOICE but to access the, to me, frightening health care system once again, it was around 2000 when I went back to my current chiro practice (the old one was not on "the list" of our then-health-insurance plan).  I could barely walk in the door, Sasha, I remember that.

I think my actual disc space/compression situation between L5 and S1 is way worse now even than in 2000 but certainly than in the late 90's, as no way could I go now as long as I went then without chiropractic care, without having a full-blown lumbosacral strain happen, i.e., without my back completely "going out", as in, cannot move.  The last time this did happen was in 2002.  I'm sure it will happen again, but I now do everything I possibly can to take proper care of my back, and I KNOW that chiropractic isn't "all a racket".  Yet even though the physical structure is worse, I'm so much better, thanks mainly to the chiro and to following BTD.  My back is consistently stable and functional now, and NOT in pain, if I just do what I need to do to stay that way, and for that I'm deeply grateful.  The thing I wish I had said to my BIL when he first said "I think chiropractic is a total joke" or whatever he said, was this:  "Well, I hope you never have to find out one way or the other".  I mean, I thought so, too, until I was in enough pain that I had to do something, and I tried it.  It is down to good chiropractic care that I'm functional, fine and the aforementioned dandaroo today, truly.  The BTD doesn't hurt matters, either.  In fact, that 2002 episode happened after a misguided period of going out of BTD compliance.  Coincidence?  You be the judge *lol*!

ANYWAY:  to my untrained eye, it looks like the lower back "sacralization" is the prob and I have very high hopes that good chiropractic care will fix ya up.  Do give it time at first, though.  And also, sometimes with the adjustments, it has to get a little worse before it gets better, too, like stuff is working itself out and that is unstable territory, pain-wise and inflammation-wise.  Hang in there.  If your gut feeling tells you that you are with a good chiro, stick it out.  If not, find another one.  Because there are good ones and they CAN help you, I really believe that.  I know they helped me.

And please do follow the BTD, too.  It is anti-inflammatory by definition.  I would cut out wheat, even though you are Type A.  Wheat is very inflammatory, especially to O's and ESPECIALLY to O nonnies (present and accounted for!), but A's and wheat are not best of buds, either.  Your B types are the only lucky ducks who can sit around eating Ben & Jerry's and then top it off with a nice slice of whole wheat toast *lol*.  Not that I'm bitter or anything.  With your back probs, I'd say lose the wheat if possible.  And start in with lots of anti-inflammatory foods like and especially pineapple.

Sasha, it is going to get better from here.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, November 17, 2005, 3:36am; Reply: 88
:) OMGosh! YOu really crack me up Pep Twist!! I had sooo much fun reading your last post to me..thanks for the smiles!
I thought for sure it was Leaping Greenly one day and then next thing....dunno, your not. Thought I was loosing my mind, but actually just read where you announced your chameleon skills, from greenly to red pep! Oh and another big fan of Peppermint Patty, she was the best! (CHUCK) Just loved it! Can't wait for Charlie Brown's Christmas.
Last night I was scanning the threads and I spotted something that really caught my interest, so I went ahead and started to read.
It was your awesome story about Sarahs Garden That beautiful English Cottage Garden! You are so very creative and have a heart of gold to do what you did. What a wonderful idea you had and all the hard work you put into that for your friend. I am so sorry that you lost her, but you know she's there every day sitting on the rock bench watching the flowers grow and bloom. Thank you so much for sharing that with everyone, I wished I was here to have "tea"..maybe next year we could all celebrate her birthday again? We live in an English Tudor cottage looking house with hundreds of shrubs and trees and flowers.....gardening is my passion, I know full well what you went through to build that garden you did an awesome job, it's gorgeous!
Ok, on we go here......as for chiros, I have been to a few different ones in the past and recently started to see one here the neighbourhood.....kind of a welcome wagon thing, so I continued to go, then I would fall off the wagon when I felt better, you know the story right? He mostlt did work for my upper back, shoulders and neck, he never did the back work. He said my back was sore cause of the way I walk blah blah blah, and wante dto start this huge thing on my feet etc. I refused as I don't have the medical and already this was running me at 120 per week. A while back I had been seeing a Grostic chiro, no crunching, just touches you neck, ok your done, 35 bucks please, thank you, good-bye. Hmm, well I guess it actuall must have done something, as my migranes went from 1 per week to 1 every...not sure now, haven't had one forever it seems. I am half convinced that they are not money grabbers and they an actually help you (me). Apparently this guy I see Friday has the same numerology numbers as I do, so I suspect that we will get along just fine. You gave some good indepth descriptions and thoughts as for what I should expect.....I hope I don't have to go that many times a week though...but I will try to do what I have to do.
I picked up my x-rays today, I haven't opened them, I sort of don'twant to, I don't want to see something I don't want to see...like this artefact thingy.. I also went with my Dr.'s referal to get my secretor testing done...ummmm no body at the lab knew what I was talking about, nada, not a no one! They called all sorts of people and no one knew...oh brother! So no problmo, I will order from NAP.
Guess it's time for some yoga and then a hot cup of tea, so for now I thank you again for your inspiration, advice and well wishes, we can all have a healthier lifestyle if we stick to this plan.
Good night for now!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, November 17, 2005, 8:58pm; Reply: 89
Artifact, schmartifact, do you know how many times an "artifact" shows up on an x-ray?  Me neither *lol*, but dern it, I'm sure it is a lot, as I know of many women who get a mammogram and are scared to death upon being told that something may or may not have showed up and to rush right back or something, only to learn that it was just an "artifact".  An artifact could be ANYTHING, like a defect in the film or whatever.  Please do not worry until you know what's what with that "artifact".  The doctor said it was "more likely" just good old degeneration (whew, degeneration yay *lol*) or an artifact (BIG yay!).

I'm glad you read and enjoyed the thread about Sarah's memory garden.  Too bad you didn't get a chance to know Sarah Blakeney.  She was the best friend I ever made on the net and I realize that she was quite possibly the best friend I ever had, period.  Even though she was "challenged by breast cancer" as she phrased it, she always wanted me to tell her about whatever was going on with me, and no matter how repetitive and no-doubt PIDDLY-seeming those things were, she always was genuinely interested and caring, even when she was going through the most God awful realities in her own life.  She was only 42 when she passed away and she has a 7-year-old son.  What can you say?  That says it all.  But she was SO brave and great through the whole thing that she really was this amazing inspiration in my life and I'm sure she would kick my butt to kingdom come if she knew just how little I am DOING with that inspiration at the present juncture, but, hey, at least I've finally stopped drinking my tea at work out of styrofoam, so she'd be happy about that, as she tried to bring that about for ages with no success before her death.  She was the best person I never met.  It amazes me how much I care for her and how close we were when we never met!  I saw one picture of her!  My friendship with her took place almost entirely over the internet (with a few international phone calls here and there), which just shows ta go ya that what counts is not the physical body, but the spirit.  I feel that our spirits connected and I hope we still are (even though, as I said, I'm sure she would kick my patootie right about now for a lot of ways I'm dropping the ball in my own life, or never even picked the ball up, never mind dropping it).  Anyway...the garden is getting some long-overdue attention this weekend.  Over the long-hot Florida summer, I mainly focused on the front yard and just keeping everything else down to a dull roar and out of "wild rainforest" territory.  But now it needs some true attention and will get it.  I'm glad you enjoyed that thread and only wish you could have experienced Sarah as a member of this community.  She was a pistol.
Posted by: mhameline, Thursday, November 17, 2005, 10:09pm; Reply: 90
Quoted from Edna
  It amazes me how much I care for her and how close we were when we never met!  I saw one picture of her!  My friendship with her took place almost entirely over the internet


I can so relate to what your are saying about your dear friend through the internet.  I too have a very close friend - one of my best friends who I have never met face to face and who I mainly communicate with over the internet - along with a few long distance phone calls.  God allowed me to meet her at a time when we were both in the midst of battling infertility.  She was grieving over a miscarriage and I was feeling very depressed about not being able to get pregnant.  She eventually went on to get pregnant and just recently gave birth to her 2nd child - while I'm still waiting to get pregnant with my first - but she has stuck through it all with me and not made me feel left behind or bad in any way.  I don't know what it is about the friendship I have with this woman who I've never met - but it has definately gotten me through some very dark, dark days and I will be eternally greatful to God for her.  I'm sorry that you lost your friend Sarah - how long ago did she pass away?
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Thursday, November 17, 2005, 11:06pm; Reply: 91
I also have an internet friend that I met through BTD. I have just been corresponding with her for a month or so, but already feel as if I have known her forever. We have so much in common. We e-mail each other at least a couple of times a week and she is so easy to talk to. Many years ago friendship was defined as someone you have met face-to-face and get to know over a period of time, now through cyberspace we can become friends and never meet. It is really something. Here is something for all of you internet friends and all who have yet to become friends, dedicated especially to Sarah, who sounds like the true definition of a friend. Enjoy! http://www.inspiringthots.net/movie/unspoken-words.php
Posted by: mhameline, Friday, November 18, 2005, 12:50am; Reply: 92
That is just awesome southernkitty - it totally says how my friendship with my intenet friend is - we write every single day and she's called me at 3am when her new born was sick and had to stay in the hospital - we've been through it all together and know just when each other is sad or happy or whatever the other person is feeling but yet we've never met in person.  Some day I hope we will get the chance to meet though - I'm sure we'll never stop talking!!  :)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 18, 2005, 2:10pm; Reply: 93
She (Sarah) just passed away on March 5th.

I realized when I left here yesterday that I said something inaccurate.  I kept saying she would kick my patootie for not taking more chances and doing and being all that I could and should do and be in life.  But you know, she wouldn't.  Because she never did, she just accepted me as I am, which is a great gift from any friend, but in her case, it was quite extraordinary and remarkable because here I am healthy as a horse and basically squandering the gift of my life in many important ways, and there she was, NOT squandering hers, doing so many truly important things, like being a parent, which is THE most sacred, important thing one can do in this life, I think, and a wife, and a doing a job/career that helped society, and yet she had to watch it all slipping away.  She would have done ANYTHING to have the chance to stay here and be a mom (or "mum"...she was British) to her son, Joe.  She even told me towards the end, I'm okay with dying but it breaks my heart to think of Joe growing up without a mother.  So against the backdrop of all that, up until the very end, she was always asking about ME, and no matter how neurotic and ridiculous the responses she got often were, she never once said "omg, Edna, why don't you just get over it all and LIVE, baby!  Do you realize how lucky you are to be HEALTHY?  Stop being paralyzed by all your angst and get out there and CARPE DIEM!!!"  But she never said that, ever.  It is amazing to me that she could even tolerate me, let alone want to be my friend.  I think if I had been her, I would have been in a constant state of fury at anyone who was healthy yet a ball of paralyzed angst and thus not living life to the fullest.  She DID live life to the fullest, but didn't get a chance to finish what she had started.  But instead of being furious about that, she chose--CHOSE--instead to be a good mom, wife, sister, daughter, employee and friend, right up to the end, always thinking about what everyone else in her life needed and caring so much about all of us, even someone as remote as an internet friend, versus at some point saying to everyone:  Okay, you know what, it is all about ME now, I'm dying.  I think that is what I would have done, just become very selfish, even more selfish than I am now *lol*.  But instead she was the opposite, making everything about caring for those around her and setting this great example through her attitude and actions, right up to the end.  She is definitely my hero.  I have no idea why she even wanted to be friends with me or had any patience with me at all, but it is obvious why I was honored to be friends with her, as she just met her "challenge" with extraordinary bravery, honesty, pluckiness, practicality and grace.  Too bad many of y'all didn't know her, as she had already gotten very near the end when this new Dr. D. official BTD message board opened.  She had been on the old one and then on a different BTD message board when that one ended.  I got to know her around that time, and it was after she had had a mastectomy but before the cancer returned (or before they found out it never left, I guess is more accurate).  Me and her other BTD cyberbuds at that time just got more and more impressed with her as she was diagnosed with a recurrance and the way she coped and stayed focused on living instead of turning inward and dying.  Even before the recurrance, I was impressed with her as this very straight-shooting, honest, practical, funny, down-to-earth, unafraid-to-speak-her-mind person, who was also very caring.  Oh yeah, and intelligent as heck.  Well, she just stayed the same after the recurrance and she did everything a human being and parent could do to try and go into remission and be healthy again, but her cancer, to me anyway, seemed particularly aggressive and no matter what she did, it just kept marching on and on and we all sat there on the sidelines, basically, and could do nothing but watch in horror.  Somehow, due to her attitude and will to live, it always seemed there was a chance she'd be fine.  Seemed like a good chance, at first.  Then things kept getting scarier and scarier.  Finally, one day it hit me that she was going to die.  It was when she said something casually like "I'm going into the hospice for a few days".  I went to my car (I was at work, I'm always at work if I have net access *lol*) and sat there and cried my eyes out.  A few days?  Who checks into the hospice for "a few days?"  Actually, she did go home after that again, but she did pass away shortly after that.  No one can ever say she didn't do everything humanly possible to stay here for her son.

The good thing is, it seems her husband is quite a guy, too, and has really stepped up to the plate and is doing a good job taking care of Joe (the son).  Sarah also had parents and sisters who are taking a big part in Joe's life.  David (Sarah's husband) wrote me that Joe is now in Tae Kwon Do and this was the idea of the sisters.  I think that is a GREAT idea and was so glad to hear he is liking Tae Kwon Do.  For some reason, that one fact just made me feel like he's okay.

Anyway, sorry to go on and on.  I miss Sarah.  And she was a big believer in the BTD and it probably extended her time here somewhat, as she was steadfast in following the BTD anti-cancer A protocol, etc.  She lived longer than the doctors had thought she would.  When she showed up at the hospital for something or other, one of the doctors or nurses was shocked to see her and said to her something like "Oh, I didn't think you'd live to see Christmas", if I'm remembering that anecdote correctly.  She wasn't sure she would, either, and I remember that she was so scared of dying ON Christmas and "ruining Christmas for Joe forever".  But instead she lived until March.  I also think the support she got from her BTD friends was a help to keep her going through the dark times.  She cared so much about her BTD friends that she apparently had the foresight to ask her husband to inform us when she got too sick to write and then when she passed away.  And he has been so sweet about staying in touch with me periodically, which I'm sure is mostly her doing, the little bu**er.  She never once said "Well, it looks like I'm not going to survive this, so prepare yourself".  She always treated it like it was a manageable disease.  But I think in the end she knew that, for her, it wouldn't be.  And in the end her friends in the BTD community knew it, too.  And neither of us wanted to be the first to say it.  Yet she made arrangements to ensure her husband would communicate with us before, during and after her death, this is how much she thought of other people, and caring for them and making things easier for them, even her "internet friends".  The woman was special.
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Friday, November 18, 2005, 3:47pm; Reply: 94
Peppermint Twist, I feel your love for Sarah, she sounds like a true friend and a very brave lady. I have something special for you to read, I was so impressed to send it to you, I believe it will bring you comfort. http://www.inspiringthots.net/movie/letter-heaven.php
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, November 18, 2005, 7:33pm; Reply: 95
Thank you, kitty of the south.  For some reason, that "movie" reminded me more of my adored, beloved, 20-year-old, recently-passed-away cat, Oliver, than of Sarah.  It was lovely, thanks.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Saturday, November 19, 2005, 12:51am; Reply: 96
Pepermint Twist, as much as you loved Sarah, she loved you back the same. That is all to clear in her actions...to all of her internet friends. What an extraordinary brave soul she was.

Off track a little here, but I think you can seriously write about Sarah, I think it would help a lot of people going through difficult times as she. You could call it Sarah's Memory Garden. I think Sarah gave you a gift when she left, the ability to share in her and your's experience with others, you have been telling Sarah's story and it has inspired me deeply.
I didn't know Sarah, but I miss her too....just listening to you talk about her makes me feel that way.

Thank  you for sharing.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 20, 2005, 7:43pm; Reply: 97
[quote=Edna]Artifact, schmartifact, do you know how many times an "artifact" shows up on an x-ray?


As soon as the x-rays went up on the light board, all 3 of us (Julia, my friend, the chiro and myself) yell out "There's the artifact!"
It was my belly buttin ring!!!!!!!  Ok, I don't even want to go there! And yes, you can tell me I told you so!! LOL!
Have any of you studied dermatomes at all? I started reading up on it and it sure makes a lot of things clear for me, looking at your dermatones Peppernint Twist, I can bet you have pain (numbing) across your glutes down your thighs, outside of your knee area and down into your toes, the 3 middle (starting next to your big toes).
My friend tipped me off to this and I have to wonder why non of the Dr.s I have seen suggested this to me?? This is even after they had seen my spinal x-rays. It is so clear that the twist  my C5, 6 7 and 8 have caused the pain and night time numbness in my arms and hands. My new chiro (which I LOVE) suggested I stay on the BTD to help keep the inflamation to the nerves at bay. I will note that he did not see any signs of C, but said I should still get the cat scan done so he can see them to help me even more. He did say that the sacralization of the L5 and 4 is definatly there but not completly compressed... the mild narrowing at the L4-S1 is probably a little more than he sees as I was lying flat for the x-rays, tends to compress more standing. About an extra mm. The usual one leg longer 1/2 an inch.
In respect to the dermatones I can now see and relate to the pains say like in my toes, inside ankles, legs, glutes...- due to the pinched nerves and has given me less worry now, but means of treating it, which is good. And that would be the BTD. Plus I can now ice those trouble spots, seeing as I know what it is now.The last 4 days I have had very bad lower back pains, I guess I must have lifted or done something to cause this, but the night time pain is still kept to a min. I can get up out of bed with no struggle. I know I will overcome this shortly and be back on the fast track...just a minor setback...no problem.  My chiro says there are 4 things that tell him one has osteoperosis, I have 3 of them. No problem.....I can do this, I see so many of you have overcome obsticles of all kinds, I'll be one of them. I am determined and I am focused. I am so sorry if I got carried away with my problems, but with no one here to really walk me through the hard times, (no one except Julia wanted to even discuss any of it) my questions and worries, I only had this board with all of you to talk me through, and I thank you all from the bottom of my heart!!!!
I still feel very good on the BTD and the extra water I think has helped too. Thanks for pushing that issue, I now keep telling friends and family....drink your water and sent the http://www.watercure.com to many!

Thank you everyone!
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Sunday, November 20, 2005, 8:02pm; Reply: 98
Sasha, sounds like you are on the right track. We must take control of our own health in this day and time because doctors don't always have the time or initiative to look into everyone's individual health problems. They just have time to get you in, find out what they think is wrong and write you out a prescription which just adds to the problems sometimes. I am so glad that it appears that the belly buttton ring is your problem instead of cancer. A good chiro is one of  the greatest assets one can have. When I had insurance that covered it, I went often, but without insurance it can get very expensive especially if you are on a fixed income, as I am. Well, good luck with everything, glad you are drinking the water, it is a definate life saver. Don't forget to have some good salt intake with the extra water, that is important also, but you would have learned that from the watercure information. Good report Sasha, we will be here for you.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 20, 2005, 11:50pm; Reply: 99
Thanks Southernkitty, I have always known that the Dr.'s don't always get done what they should, it's in and out like you said, but I had more faith in mine, guess I was wrong.
The chiro will cost me a lot of money too, money I don't have, but somehow I have to make it work. I do not have the extended medical anymore to cover a good portion of it. This guy says he won't make me go more than one time I week if I follow his instructions and do as he says....so you betcha, I'll be doing that.

How are your Thanksgiving plans coming along? We have had ours already here in Canada.
Posted by: 1165 (Guest), Monday, November 21, 2005, 1:25am; Reply: 100
Sasha, my Thanksgiving plans are coming together real good. I have a turkey, a receipe for some complient dressing (will actually be an experiment) I have fresh cranberries to make a cranberry complient dish. I will have fresh veggies including a sweet potato dish with walnuts. My family and I talked about food for Thanksgiving today and my 19 yr old grandson said, "you are making banana pudding right granny?" I said of course I am. I will put together a nice fruit salad for me and I will be happy and everyone will have their requested dish from me too. So, when is Thanksgiving in Canada? I hope everything works out with your Chiro, they are good for you. So, you have some insurance issues too. It is so expensive everything. I will have Medicare in February, so there are a couple of  things I will do then that I have not been able to do. Well, have a nice week everyone!
Posted by: mhameline, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 12:06am; Reply: 101
Sasha, I'm glad to hear you found a chiropractor that you really like and who can help you - a good chiro is invaluable to our overall, long term health in my opinion - in addition to the BTD!!  

And that is so funny that your belly button ring showed up on your x-ray and that your reg doc thought it was something to be concerned about - I'm thankful that turned out to be nothing for you:)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 12:26am; Reply: 102
Quoted from mhameline
Sasha, I'm glad to hear you found a chiropractor that you really like and who can help you - a good chiro is invaluable to our overall, long term health in my opinion - in addition to the BTD!!  

And that is so funny that your belly button ring showed up on your x-ray and that your reg doc thought it was something to be concerned about - I'm thankful that turned out to be nothing for you:)


Thanks, my reg. doc never actually saw the x-rays, but I think she should have reqested them.
Today I almost collapsed at work, I had to come home and ice my back!
I wonder if "this" is the healing crisis? Detox.
Thaks for your words!

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 8:40pm; Reply: 103
Good girl for icing it.  Icing to me is a very important proactive therapy.  I like a brand of ice thingy called "Nortech".  It is very hard to find (my chiro doesn't carry it, but the original chiro I went to does) but I like it as opposed to other brands because it is VERY slim/flat.  Some of the other ice pad thingys are too thick, like an inch thick.  Well, I already have an exaggerated lordotic curve and the last thing I need is to be unable to lie FLAT, with the small of the back as flat as possible into the ice thingy, so I get the Nortech ice thingy (really called something like "hot/cold pack") and keep several in my freezer.  Even with that under or behind (depending on if I'm lying or sitting) my back, my back can still be relatively flat against the floor, bed, chair, etc.  By contrast, the type my chiro sells are just too thick for me.

Also, don't forget that "extended child" pose I told you about, it will stretch out your sacral area to counteract any compression that has gone on during your day.

Right now I'm bad because I just realized I'm a week overdue to go to the chiro.  Bad.  And I don't even have an appointment made or anything.  Bad.  Never used to let it go, but the HMO has taken to making it so intimidating with paperwork to fill out every 2 or 3 visits, that you just try to avoid going, which is just what they WANT you to do, of course.  Anyway...be that as it may, good girl for icing your back.

Hang in there, it will stabilize for you now that you are working with a good chiro!  And BTDing!  Seriously, don't underestimate the power of an anti-inflamatory diet.

Have a beautiful and healthy Thanksgiving, Sasha, you and your artifact!   ;)
Posted by: Janet, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 9:26pm; Reply: 104
Hi Sasha, finally found your testimony, it takes me quite along time to find my way around!! sorry you've had such a rotten day with all of it. Remember, there's always a fresh tomorrow, take care.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 11:22pm; Reply: 105
Quoted from southernkitty
Sasha, my Thanksgiving plans are coming together real good. I have a turkey, a receipe for some complient dressing (will actually be an experiment) I have fresh cranberries to make a cranberry complient dish. I will have fresh veggies including a sweet potato dish with walnuts. My family and I talked about food for Thanksgiving today and my 19 yr old grandson said, "you are making banana pudding right granny?" I said of course I am. I will put together a nice fruit salad for me and I will be happy and everyone will have their requested dish from me too. So, when is Thanksgiving in Canada? I hope everything works out with your Chiro, they are good for you. So, you have some insurance issues too. It is so expensive everything. I will have Medicare in February, so there are a couple of  things I will do then that I have not been able to do. Well, have a nice week everyone!

Happy Thanksgiving!!! I am sure you are way way way too busy to be hanging around your computer to read this, but just the same, I hope you and all of your family have a great holiday. It sounds to me that you are totaly organized and everyone will get the foods they like including yourself!!! Yummy! Sounds scrumptious!
Here is Canada we celebrate Thanksgiving Oct. 10th. At that time I was not on the BTD
Take Care and enjoy yor holiday!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 11:32pm; Reply: 106
Hi Janet! How are you doing? Today is great for me, I only have sciatic pains now, which I can handle, but can't sit for long have to walk it out and ice ice ice! Just like Peppermint Twist said......I found this to be a very good way to ease the pain out along with this great Chiro I have. Thanks for your good wishes, sure seems like I am a bit of a yo yo these days, good days, bad days....but I am on the road to recovery for sure. I think also if I didn't change my diet I would not have had the energy to deal with this flair up. I KNOW it has mde a difference, I will always stay away from inflammatory foods forever!!
So you have been on the diet just a little while now, I hope you are achieving any goals you may have set out and/or just enjoying this new way of life!
Happy to see your still here!
Posted by: jeannette (Guest), Friday, November 25, 2005, 10:06pm; Reply: 107
Sasha. my book shows pineapple and grapefruit as highly beneficial for A's. :)
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, November 27, 2005, 10:38pm; Reply: 108
Hi Jeannette, yes that's right, I eat fresh pineapple every day as well as the juice and drink lot's of red grapefruit juice. It appears that it is also very anti-inflammatory, which is what I need to keep the inflamation down...arthritis borderline. Thanks!
Posted by: Janet, Monday, December 5, 2005, 6:31pm; Reply: 109
Hi Sasha,
I was wondering how things were with you? I've been busy trying to do a website for my husband so have been somewhat lacking time to browse through the different boards. I've had good success making spelt bread with my new breadmaking machine, which solves the problem of wheat bread. My husband is beginning to take on board what is good/bad for As; he's even telling me now!!
Take care
Janet
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, December 11, 2005, 1:58am; Reply: 110
Hi Janet! I have a bread machine too, but it has been locked away for some time. I was thinking of making my own bread too, after Christmas I may have some down time to do things like that. So it tasted good did it? Which recipe did you use?
Isn't it great when the other half gets on board? It makes things so much easier. I take it he is an A too then?
Things have been a whirl wind lately, first time on the boad in a while. I am makeing great progress with my back, but today I am off a bit, I am icing as I sit here, it really really helps a lot! I have not been 100% compliant lately either, maybe 80, which is low for me as I was pretty strict. I can actually feel the difference when going off the diet even that little bit, it kicks me back into shape though when I feel that way. I still feel better than I have in many many years, one thing that has really effected me is how calm I am, my stress level has almost vanished, and that is not like me, so gotta love it!  ;D
I hope things are going well for you and yours, keep up the good work and thats is so great how your making your own bread now. The loaves I buy are 5 bucks (Canadian) each! I should be making my own that's for sure.
Take Care...chat soon!
:)
Posted by: Janet, Sunday, December 11, 2005, 4:15pm; Reply: 111
Hi there Sasha, I always think that it's a funny old world, time wise, whilst I'm writing this you're probably fast asleep in bed!!
If there is one thing that is hard to bear, it surely is PAIN, I feel so sorry for you and hope that your ice packs will give you prompt relief.

Yes, the bread machine in really good and so simple. First time I made a loaf using the Spelt receipe in the Cook Right book - it was a total disaster! but in hindsight it was because I was trying to make Rye bread. Anyway, feeling the I couldn't even inflict it upon the birds - I threw it away! My second effort was superb, I even surprised myself! The receipe was out of the book that came with the machine:
Water - 300ml
Butter/marg. -1 1/2 tbs
Salt - 1 tbs
Sugar - 1 tsp
Flour - 540grams - I carefully weigh this as the bags are surposed to contain 500 grams but can range from 486-510! So I made up the weight with Oat flour. Texture is wonderful, keeps well.
I cooked it on the medium browning, so the outside is not so baked.
Well, Christmas will soon be here so perhaps you will get your machine out of storage.

I only have one slice per day, my husband has one or two, so am making a fresh loaf every 4 days. But considering that once you have measured/ weighed everything, the machine does the
rest - I don't find it time consuming at all.

Yes, my husband is an A+, just the same as me and he's actually beginning to see how the different foods make him suffer, mainly the stomach. It's funny really when we're shopping and I'm saying, that's not good for As!

I'm not doing too bad, but seem to have regained the weight I lost at the first, which I'm not very happy about but think it's probably portion size and I am definitely a 'natural born grazer', I'm an Aries, the Ram.

Good to hear about you having less stress - that's got to be a great, welcome bonus. I've had terrible hot flushes re menopause for 3 years and can't believe that my body thermostat is working again!!
Well, take care and chat soon.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, December 12, 2005, 2:12am; Reply: 112
janet,
you mean 1 tsp salt, right? )
Posted by: Janet, Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 4:17pm; Reply: 113
Hi Lola,
Just checked and it says 1 tbp..... but did some investigation.... 1 scoop= 14grams but 1 (actual) tablespoon= 30grams. Does 14grams sound like a lot of salt for a 540 gram loaf? This is all new to me, so I'd be grateful of any advice.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 8:55pm; Reply: 114
tbp is short for tablespoon
it should say tsp short for teaspoon, then! )
14 grms sounds fine, or 1 tsp......
Posted by: Janet, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 12:09pm; Reply: 115
Yes, I understand what you're saying but the 14 grams is their scoop. which is called tbp.
The tsp scoop = 4 grams. So, infact I was the one misleading everyone in the bread receipe because I should have stated 'scoop' not tbp/tsp.
Good to clarify that, thanks Lola.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:43pm; Reply: 116
thank you Janet!
Posted by: Janet, Tuesday, December 20, 2005, 3:24pm; Reply: 117
Hi Sasha,
Haven't seen you on the board for a little while, hope everything is OK with you?
I send you 'Seasonal Greetings' and best wishes for 2006.
Take care, Janet.
Posted by: +Aan, Thursday, December 29, 2005, 10:55pm; Reply: 118
Good for you! I'm getting back on it. I have two years to get my body and finances together so I can retire!...Aani
Posted by: Janet, Saturday, December 31, 2005, 3:06pm; Reply: 119
Well +Aan, two years sounds like a long term plan to me - my body can change drastically in just two weeks!! I'm aiming to stay on a much more even basis. As for the financial aspect... well, that's always ??????
I wish you well, especially in the coming New Year.
Janet.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Thursday, January 5, 2006, 2:57am; Reply: 120
;D Hello hello hello!
Happy New Year everyone!
Well I must say each and every day I kept saying to myself I must get on the computer and say hello to everyone and wish them all a very happy, safe and healthy holiday season and New Year!
Time just got away on me closer to Christmas, I was working crazy hours non stop and trying to plan Christmas Eve dinner here, Christmas Day dinner at my dad's and then Boxing Day at the in-laws for hubby's birthday. Then I had my nephew here and shopped with him and kept him busy. Then I caught the flu and then a cold and then a bladder infection. Ok, I'm done now, back on track as of today! I hate to have to take anti-biotics but my self healing plan did not work. I must say though, drink lot's of plain hot water, it really relieves the symptoms of bladder infection and UTI. As for cranberry juice, to each his own, I have heard and read some good and some bad.
Some good news is everyone noticed how much weight I have lost. At Christmas it was 9 pounds and not even dieting, just ER4YBT. Portions are important too, but I always ate less on this diet as it was plenty for me. Had a few of the old foods over the holidays but not over doing it, just a treat here and there and in moderation it was ok for me. I did notice cheese presented a problem for me though. I am back on now that all the bad foods are away from me now. Now that I have been feeling so much better with my back problems and pain free again, I will concentrate on an additional 5 pounds to loose. I never even gave it a thought before being in pain to loose a few pounds, I really didn't care what I looked like, just free me of this pain. But I feel healthy, I look healthy and I am HAPPY!
I found out that diabetes runs in the family (funny I never knew this before) so I will go get tested as soon as I can....and then add another book to my collection, may as well incorporate what I can to stay healthy.
I have been seeing my chiro weekly now, I will be seeing him monthly after my next visit, he is very happy with my results thus far. My lower back is holding now, the stretching and yoga I try to do 4 x a week is good for me too, really helps a lot.
Ok enough about me, what about you?
How are you all????
Caht soon!
:K)

PS I have still not had one single tidbit of red meat, and do not plan on it anytime soon! Woo hoo!!!!!  ;D  ;)  :D
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, January 5, 2006, 3:14am; Reply: 121
sasha,
great update, thanks!
HNY to you, also!
welcome back! )
Posted by: Janet, Thursday, January 5, 2006, 2:38pm; Reply: 122
Well Hi Sasha,
Good to hear from you again and that all is well with you.

Have you had a secretor test? I've checked out some of the secretor/non food lists and could do with being a 'non' - I'm waiting for my test kit to arrive!!


Janet
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, January 6, 2006, 3:25pm; Reply: 123
Quoted from janet
Well Hi Sasha,
Good to hear from you again and that all is well with you.

Have you had a secretor test? I've checked out some of the secretor/non food lists and could do with being a 'non' - I'm waiting for my test kit to arrive!!


Janet


I am going to do it soon, the only way is to order it on line, Dr.'s don't know what it is here and the labs don't know either! Can you imagine? So it's on my list'o- things to do! I know what you mean, I could do with being a non-secretor too some days.....hee hee! Let us know what it says.

Posted by: Janet, Monday, January 9, 2006, 11:31am; Reply: 124
I know what you mean, I had to order mine on line too, it has to come from England and as Spain has so many fiestas during December, I'm not sure when it will arrive.
Thanks also for your kindness re my mum, sorry to hear that you have an aunt suffering too - it's just so horrible to hear her trying to breathe every time I ring her. Sometimes she won't answer the phone and that really gets me extra worried. Fortunately, I have two sisters who are doing their best for her, but she's not an easy woman to help.
My only way to deal with it all, is in knowing that God knows all about it - for the good and for the bad.

Janet.
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Saturday, January 21, 2006, 5:39pm; Reply: 125
Hi, everyone, it certainly gives one a lift to read such great success stories! I have perused the site in general for some time but never took time to read any of the forums. I can certainly relate to the thrill of being pain free after years of struggling along with it.  Beef was my (main) nemesis along with all dairy products.  I could eat a serving of beef and be almost completely disabled in twenty minutes! Believe it or not, it took a long time for me to tie these together! I suppose one reason being that the problem came on gradually over a period of years. Just after I began to suspect the beef, someone introduced me to the BTD. Of course, it all instantly made sense to me! But the main reason I am posting, I have found a little remedy that helps my knees and other places when I overdo, indulge, etc. (sugar and potatoes are my biggest temptations). The remedy is massaging with caster oil. I had read about this for some time but finally decided I would try it.  I bought a small bottle of Swan's - $1 and almost completely unscented, and massaged it all around my knees. I really can't describe my amazement at the difference I felt in just a few minutes! Later, I had severe pain on the tops of my shoulders after trying a new exercise and decided to try this caster oil treatment on those places.  It had the same effect there as it did on my knees! It is a wonderful feeling.  I have never experienced anything like it with any other rub-on treatments. I have no idea why it works better than other products, but I'm certainly thankful that I finally decided to try it.  I have told several others about it and it has worked for them, too, but, no doubt, this wouldn't work for everyone because of different causes of pain. I might add that I do take Deflect daily and other things that help these problems, but this is just an instant relief that comes in handy now and then. I look forward to reading more success stories from others.  I have never seen this diet fail for anyone I know who has tried it.  I just heard about a man a friend of mine had recommended it to who was extremely overweight and miserable.  He started on the diet and lost 25 pounds in three weeks and is overjoyed with how much better he feels!!!!! My youngest son was horrified when he came down with extreme pain in his stomach and prostate.  He called me just terrified.  It was on the weekend, he was out of town and away from any doctors we knew. (Which was a good thing!) My brain went into a whirl, of course, but I began to question him about what he had eaten. He knew I was using the BTD but hadn't seen any reason to change his own way of eating. Well, he had eaten a LOT of beef-related items the day before and I told him that I felt that was his problem.  I sent him to the HFS for disgestive aids and pretty soon he started feeling better.  As long as he stays away from beef and dairy products he has no problems, but as soon as he eats any of it, the pain returns. When he and his friends grill steaks, he has his BTD foods at the ready!! Everyone have a wonderful, painfree day!
Eddie
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 21, 2006, 10:06pm; Reply: 126
Eddie,
welcome!
and thanks for so many great tips and success stories!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, January 22, 2006, 8:39am; Reply: 127
Hi!
Well I am unable to order the secretor test as they do not ship to Canada.  :'(
I have an old neighbour/friend who I will ring up and see if I can have it delivered to they're summer home in the USA, they visit there often and it's close by. All I know is it says not available in Canada, but hmmm, maybe they can ship it, and they are just saying it's not in a store in Canada...dunno, will look into it furthure.

Had some slip up lately and I sure reget it....can not believe how I ate all the wrong foods all my life! Next time anyone says they have an upset stomach, my first question will be, what's your blood type (amazing how most people don't know though), second will be what did you eat?
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Sunday, January 22, 2006, 9:07am; Reply: 128
:)
Hi Eddie and welcome!
Thank you for sharing your stories and wow! Caterer Oil??? I will pass that one along to anyone I know that has joint pain and see what happens. I'll try it too!
Red meat, wheat and dairy are my big ones ... I HAVE to stay away from it.
We were all at the Keg Steak and Seafood House last weekend, everyone was ordering steaks and prime rib, anyhow I ordered the salmon and a lobster (I know, lobster is an avoid), but it has been so long and I was celebrating, had broccoli and rice with it-so not too bad a meal. I actually felt ok. Another night I was making lasagna...WHAT WAS I THINKING???? As I was cooking the beef I realized..."I can't eat this! There's beef in it, never mind the pasta, cheese etc." So I continued and knew that my husband would eat it anyhow. I had a small small small plate. NEVER AGAIN! My guts were killing me, even hubby's were not at the're best. In general though I really stick to the diet and feel very good about it.
One night  after Xmas we went to the inlaws for dinner, she said she would be making a pot roast. Oh that's nice I said. I'm thinking ok, I will get through the night, I'll just eat the veggies. (she forgot that I didn't eat meat) But we have to be polite when out for dinners etc. I don't expect everyone to cater to me. (one friend did though, it was amazing! She called every day asking questions what I can eat etc,. She made an amazing meal fit for an A) Anyhow....at dinner, I only ate the veggies but they were dripping in gravy, wouldn't you know it, my stomach acted up within 20 minutes. The next day was not the greatest either.
Point being I guess is the slightest thing can really set you off if you have changed your eating habits, I always thought it was normal to feel ill all the time. (you know what I mean)
Back on track again and enjoying it as always.
First item on my shopping list tomorrow is Caster oil, can't hurt to try. Thanks for the tip Eddie! And good luck with your BTD, sounds like it's going great for you!
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Sunday, January 22, 2006, 7:59pm; Reply: 129
Thanks for the welcome!  Shasha, I laid the law down to myself the time I ate a small amount of potatoes cooked in beef broth at someone's house! I can sort of, somehow, deal with potatoes once in a while but NO beef products of any kind except real yogurt and I have to limit it somewhat.  I thought I was going to have a panic attack my stomach was hurting so bad after I ate that potato\beef broth stuff.  It is almost like our stomachs are telling us that, by cracky, we have something good going now, finally, and you aren't going to mess things up!!! A's are supposed to be able to eat mozzarella cheese, and I have bought it numerous times hoping I could eat it and every time I say I will NEVER buy it again because I cannot digest it even with plenty of pills that are supposed to help! I hope you can get the secretor test somehow.  I need to have it done too, but since I have done so well so long, I have sort of put it off. It is next on my list, though. After I posted that about castor oil, I was reading a link Dr. D. posted about breast cancer and a further article about cancer in general by the same author:   http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/node/340  
[Nutritional Strategies for Cancer Prevention and Recovery | Toronto Canada alternative health natural medicine green living]   In this article, she recommends castor oil packs to detox the liver. It feels exactly like poison is coming right out of the place where the pain is when you massage it in. I was not surprised when I read that she suggested this to detox the liver. If you can't get Swan's, get one that says it is unscented or something like that.  From what some have told me, regular castor oil doesn't smell that good! But Swan's can be worn all the time and you don't notice it. Take care of yourself! Eddie
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Monday, January 23, 2006, 3:46am; Reply: 130
I went to the link you posted....LOVE IT!
Thank you!  ;D
Posted by: Janet, Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 4:28pm; Reply: 131
Hi Sasha,
Good to hear some news from you - although! my, you were so strict before Xmas. I thought you were quiet and perhaps...... only joking!!
Have you got your bread machine going yet? We're so enjoying the spelt bread and my husband eats spelt spaghetti and pasta things (not sure what they're called), not me though, can't stand pasta at any price!!
Have submitted my secretor test and should get the results any day - hope I'm a nonnie, 'cause I enjoyed some lamb last Sunday!

Good to hear from you Eddie, another Type A to keep us company. Personally, I haven't eaten beef for many a year because of the BSC in England, so don't miss it at all. But I do like other meats..... not supposed to be good for us. I eat hardly any fish except tuna, just don't like the taste - it's too 'fishy' for me!!
I'm going to tell my mum about the castor oil, do you think it would help her arthritic neck?

Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 5:53pm; Reply: 132
Hi, Janet, the castor oil certainly might help your mom, and it is so cheap she wouldn't have much to lose if it didn't! It is too bad you don't like fish. I love it but not the ones that have a lot of fishy taste. I buy frozen cod and enjoy that very much. Sadly, we don't have a good fish market here so I have to buy frozen. I am not about to buy this stuff sitting around for days in a grocery store. Eddie
Posted by: Janet, Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 3:12pm; Reply: 133
Eddie, where do you live? if you don't mind me asking.
Trouble with my mum is that she doesn't take other people's advice - especially one of her daughters, so I'm thinking of how to approach it!!
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 3:34pm; Reply: 134
Hi, Janet! I had to smile when you wrote of your mother not taking other people's advice! Of course, we all know that there is plenty of "advice" around that is not worth bothering with, some of it might work for one person and not another, etc., etc.. I live in the USA. Yesterday morning I got up with a bad catch in my neck after sleeping on the wrong pillow.  After a couple of hours of this misery, I decided to try the castor oil.  In another couple of hours the pain was completely gone!  Before, when I would have this problem it would be around for at least 24 hours. Most people who know me are well aware of how skeptical I am, so I can certainly relate to your mother! I suppose my skepticism is why so many of my friends are willing to try something I have mentioned to them that has helped me. Maybe you could offer to gently massage your mother's neck with this nice oil you happened to have in your handbag! Good luck!
Posted by: Janet, Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 5:17pm; Reply: 135
Well Sasha - it's official, I'm a SECRETOR, just got my test results.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 10:58pm; Reply: 136
great ! )
Posted by: Susana, Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 11:08pm; Reply: 137
Janet,

How do you get castor oil in Spain?

:K)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 25, 2006, 11:16pm; Reply: 138
Susana,
what name does it go by, in Spain?
Posted by: Janet, Thursday, January 26, 2006, 3:04pm; Reply: 139
Just purchased some today for my husband and it's working!
It's called 'aceite de ricino', found it in the dictionary.

Eddie, many thanks, even mentioned it to my mum on the phone today. Can't do as you suggested, I'm in Spain, she's in England!!
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Thursday, January 26, 2006, 4:10pm; Reply: 140
Janet, I'm happy you've found the castor oil and that it has worked for your husband! I think it does more than simply alleviating pain when it is massaged into the skin and plan to do a little research on it. It never occurred to me that your mother didn't live close by! I don't know why because I've never been able to live near my mother either. I do hope she will give it a try.
Posted by: Janet, Thursday, January 26, 2006, 6:05pm; Reply: 141
Hi Eddie,
I'd be really interested with any research you come up with. It seems so simple, cheap and yet I'm sure is overlooked as 'old fashioned'.
As for my mum, well I'll wait and see. I'll talk to one of my sisters who may actually rub it in!!
Thanks again.
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Thursday, January 26, 2006, 8:33pm; Reply: 142
Well, I see Dr. D is writing about bok choy.  I just discovered this interesting vegetable a few months ago.  I was looking for something to use in place of cabbage and was I ever happy for this find.  I use it in soup, but I don't bother with cooking the white stuff longer than the leaves the way he did.  I wash the leaves and process them for a few seconds so they aren't huge, slice the "stalks" the way I would celery in the processor and throw it all in. Ummmmm! My sister and I came up with about five different veggies this one reminds us of and the taste really adds a lot of flavor to soups. I like the baby bok better but am not able to get that around here very often. I miss tomato in soups very much but this helps A's have a better soup.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 1:33am; Reply: 143
Oh my so much going on here!
Congtatulations Janet, but sorry your not a nonnie!

I bought some Castor Oil today at the HFS. IT's called The Palma Christi Cator Oli. It was 13.95 Canadian for 16 oz. It says Hexane Free, whatever that is. I want to try it on my aches and pains, like me too Eddie, waking up with sore neck/shoilder a lot and the chiro costs a fortune every  time for him to work it out. Also I will take some to my Nan (grandmother)  tomorrow. Will just happen to have some on me and offer to rub it into her sore spots! She's 91, a young English gal full of spunk, but things are stating to slow her down now. I hope this helps.
Everyone, go to the web site that Eddie suggested, do a search for Castor Oil and tons of info will come up. Lot's of articles I have noticed too in magazines about the wonders of it.
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 1:36am; Reply: 144
Here try this....the whole site is great!

http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/node/228
Posted by: Lola, Friday, January 27, 2006, 4:02am; Reply: 145
Janet,
is it not 'recino' instead of ricino? )
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 5:58am; Reply: 146
LOVE YOUR LIVER | Toronto Canada alternative health natural medicine green living
This article confirms everything I have been thinking about castor oil and a whole lot more.  It is amazing that so much has been written about this simple little oil, and here I have only recently become aware of its wonderful qualities.  It is no wonder that I have such a nice feeling of well-being when I use it - besides getting rid of pain! The person who actually got me started using it was a 91 year old woman who said she had been using it for forty years and her joints were in wonderful shape.  I am sure it was doing a whole lot more for her besides helping her joints after reading these articles! As this article says, I had also noticed that the skin soon absorbs the oil. One article I read said it would stain clothing but I have not noticed that yet, anyway. I also take the milk thistle they mention in this article for the liver. I don't drink anything except water and try to stay on the BTD, but in the past I have been exposed to different chemicals while gardening "INorganically," using herbicides, insecticides and breathing gas fumes from gardening machines, etc., so I think I need to look after my liver.
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 6:00am; Reply: 147
http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/node/228 The link didn't work so here is the address for the article.
Posted by: Eddie (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 6:03am; Reply: 148
Sorry, Sasha, I didn't notice that you had posted the same link earlier! Maybe I need to start looking for something that says LOVE YOUR BRAIN!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 7:17am; Reply: 149
LOL!
No problem, Eddie. I printed it out and faxed it to my dad, and emailed to others.
I tried it tonight 2 times now, after the first rub, it wasn't long before my shoulder was feeling GREAT! I was amazed! I put on an old sweatshirt in case it stained, but haven't noticed. Rubbed it in real well.
I used it on my husband too as he is going through some painful stuff, he actually said he felt pretty good, said he thought it was working.
Posted by: Janet, Friday, January 27, 2006, 2:14pm; Reply: 150
Oops - Lola, that's right - can't decide whether it's short term memory loss (copying off the box) or forgot to use my gafas!!
Posted by: 1319 (Guest), Friday, January 27, 2006, 4:06pm; Reply: 151
Ha! I woke up with NO shoulder pain!
I will try the Castor Oil on my back too when I feel sore between chiro visits!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 28, 2006, 1:21am; Reply: 152
thanks Janet!! )
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