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Posted by: dancer, Thursday, June 16, 2005, 9:41am
Hello!
I know there is  already one thread about  candida- yeast infection
but it's soo long and I write x only a SPECIFIC TOPIC:

DAILY  BTD ANTI-CANDIDA/YEAST MENU.

Are you interested in it?
Could you give me your example?
It'ld help me to recognize and understand  my errors, to learn new options and make more secure and true choices!

There is another thread titled Vegetarianism....I totally agreed that VEGAN TYPE 0 is BAD ! But I'm sad.... I deeplyI'm  following BTD 0 diet  with no sugars, dairy, grains and a lot of vegs+meat+fish+oils+nuts ... but I CONTINUE TO BE TOO MUCH BLOATED AND CONSTIPATED...so I'm feeling VERY DEPRESSED and DISCOURAGED...and I don't understand more what I'm doing of wrong with my diet...

If you find helpful and interesting this thread....
please, answer it and let me know your DAILY  BTD ANTI-CANDIDA/YEAST MENU!
many thanks!

maria

Posted by: 1196 (Guest), Thursday, June 16, 2005, 9:15pm; Reply: 1
I too am interested.  So far apart from eliminating (bare minimum) the sugars (grains fruits) the one tip I am trying compliments of Car54, is the 3-4 cloves of raw garlic which I'm sprinkling either on my vegetables of an evening, or just at dishing in soup, or as this morning, into the gravy over my chicken.  It has been a bit of a shock to my tastebuds but I do think I'm benefitting.  The first day and a half I was blighted with the 'headache' I've now come to associate with detoxing and so whether it is candida or something else in my system, something was getting a hurry up with the addition of the raw garlic.  My head has now cleared and I'm continuing with the garlic.  See where it leads me!
Posted by: CarolineC, Friday, June 17, 2005, 1:14am; Reply: 2
Ohhh, I am confused. Do you want to know what we have eaten today? OH finally another constipation person!!! Iam so sorry for you BUT so happy I am NOT alone! I thinkI have become known as the  "Rabbit pellet" queen!.
John M. on the other  Candida site (I think), yes it long but  WOW so much info....but anywoo.. he has a recipe  for a goo....yep its a goo for the constipation.
OK, you take 2 TBS of  Ground flaxseed  put it in a glas of warm water, let it sit all night, in the morning you drink this disgusting  stuff ( boy, make this sound awful..but..) and bingo.. you go. Now I understand why..everything inside runs for its constipated life!!  Sorry John, it  hard going down.

Ok.. today I had.

Morning: warm water with some lemon, finished up some  fish and greens (with Candida , you not suppose to eat things left in frig over 24 hours), and ALL my morning supplements

Mid morning: few almonds (have another sore on tongue , so not happy eating probably too much lemon)

Lunch: BIG salad with lettuce, snap peas, celery, little garlic, grilled beef, 2 tbs fresh ground flax seeds and 2 tbs  flax seed oil and tiny bit lemon as dressing. Lunch supplements

dinner hasn't happened: but it will be a vegetable soup. Will take the nighttime  stuff for the candida after dinner.

If I am craving or hungry later, I will have some organic almond butter (trying to continue losing  weight from this candida diet)

Caroline





Posted by: dancer, Sunday, June 19, 2005, 8:31am; Reply: 3
Today  my menu is:

Breakfast :
Almond Yougurt ( homemade yogurt with achidophilus) + vegetable glycerine+ mallow & fennel infusion.

Break:
vegetable juice ( 200 ml) : carrot+beet+celery

Lunch:
onions steamed + parsley +
flax oil+
rainbow-trout

Break:
some red plums or cherry

Dinner:
steamed daikon+
fresh cichory salad+ flax oil+
rainbow trout (it was a BIG fish, and I'm alone...!)

+ 2 l of water + hymalain salt  in the day.
Posted by: CarolineC, Sunday, June 19, 2005, 7:26pm; Reply: 4
Food  for 6/18/05

Breakfast:  some beef scramble with 1 egg.  2 cups green tea

Break: few almonds I was on the run

Lunch: acorn squash  mashed 2tbs flaxseed oil and 3 tbs fresh ground flaxseed , chicken

dinner: Tuna stirfry (yum)

120 ounces water in the day
Posted by: dancer, Monday, June 20, 2005, 4:48pm; Reply: 5
today :
Breakfast :
almond yogurt+ veg glycerine

Lunch:
steamed beets+ chicken + flax oils

break
some red plums

dinner:
chicory+lettuce romain + chicken + flax oil

and a lot of water!

Caroline...what's TUNA STIRFRY?
did you eat alone or with some vegetables?
ciao ciao
Posted by: 689 (Guest), Monday, June 20, 2005, 4:52pm; Reply: 6
The Russians would say "How's your liver today?" A good detox would be great start before having any normal meals.
Posted by: dancer, Monday, June 20, 2005, 5:08pm; Reply: 7
I know it  Hadoken,
I TOTALLY AGREE wit YOU!
MY  LIVER is always in difficulty...I 've high level of transaminasi...
so...what do you suggest x type 0  ( a little underweight + systemic yeast infection) liver detox?
What do you mean by  ..having any normal meals?
Do you think that my daily menu , in my conditions, is correct or should I have to change something ?
thanks!
ciao
 
Posted by: suzedgar, Monday, June 20, 2005, 8:45pm; Reply: 8
Breadkast:
sliced steak and steamed artichokes
Green tea and veg glycerine
Supplements

Lunch:
Cod and steamed veggies - carrots, asparagus

snack: green tea, dried peas (my version of chips)

Dinner: will probably have benny veggies, pumpkin seeds and garlic - maybe a little protein as I am going to work out

I also really suffer from constipation - I think it is related to slow digestion, stress and a toxic liver.  I have found that a powdered mag/calcium combo dissolved in water in the morning and evening really helps
Posted by: debs, Monday, June 20, 2005, 8:54pm; Reply: 9
dear dancer
monday breakfast- 18g protein powder,19g nutritional yeast flakes,1 egg,1 banana & spinach,watercress,seaweed & filtered water/or chicken stock,& fresh ginger
snack 1 tbsp pumpkin seeds
late lunch/early dinner roast chicken,roast carrots & roast butternut squash & steamed swede,broccoli & greens
approx 6 pints water & 2 mugs green tea

other days breakfast same but lunch usually earlier & combination of vegeables with either fish or meat

dinner vegetables & fish/meat but not so much.

i too suffer with candida which i'm taking threelac but its kind of dawned on me today.that really the anti candida diet is very much like the non secretor diet which in turn seems to equate somewhat with low carbohydrate diet.so its a bit of a vicious circle.
i do get constipation on & off & hadnt 'been' for over 2 days.i'm wondering if its because on thursday,friday & saturday in my smoothies i used my homemade soup which has more chicken in it than the stock & consequently the chicken & the fruit ganged up together on me & constipated.
however strangely today i lost half a pound.which i'm wondering if its because i've cut down on my fruit in my smoothies.i'm only having 1 piece of fruit instead of two.
i dont know & its doing my brain in trying to figure it out anymore to be honest.if the candida dont get me the stress will.
However i am no expert & only offer some pointers which may or may not help you.
looking at your diet that you posted

Breakfast :
Almond Yoghurt ( homemade yogurt with achidophilus) + vegetable glycerine+ mallow & fennel infusion.

Break:
vegetable juice ( 200 ml) : carrot+beet+celery

Lunch:
onions steamed + parsley +
flax oil+
rainbow-trout

Break:
some red plums or cherry

Dinner:
steamed daikon+
fresh cichory salad+ flax oil+
rainbow trout (it was a BIG fish, and I'm alone...!)

1)do you think if you had more protein for breakfast it would keep you going for longer?
2)you appear to be having quite a bit of fruit.whilst i know fruit generally isnt avoid & i know there are two schools of thought about fruit & anti candida diets.here is my take on it inmh.avoid dried fruit its too high in sugar & you'll feed the little critters.have the freshest fruit possible the less ripe the better.the more ripe a fruit is the more sugar there is & that means more food for the little critters.
However,too much fruit & there still will be too much sugar for you know who.its a sad fact but there it is.what is hard is once you have the candida under control you have to maintain it.Hence this is where the low carbs comes in.you can slowly reintroduce these foods & cut back if candida bounces back.the trouble i'm finding that once you've been low carb forq uite some time your body gets used to it & then you find you start gaining weight purely cos your reintroducing these carbs.
its a vicious circle of which i'm trying to figure a way out,help!
Posted by: itslyn (Guest), Monday, June 20, 2005, 11:28pm; Reply: 10
i have a question Debs, i thought that nutritional yeast and candida were major no-way's. i notice its in ur breakfast tho. u clearly know more than i if its working for u.. can u comment?
Posted by: itslyn (Guest), Monday, June 20, 2005, 11:46pm; Reply: 11
one more qu: almond yogurt.. can u tell me more? i've looked at the recipes on file and cant find it. would u share?
Posted by: resting, Monday, June 20, 2005, 11:57pm; Reply: 12
Hi debs,

Still trying to find out if I am right about this ... I am attempting to recruit some of the players most familiar with my gut and avoid making decisions as if they were not there at all.  Any low-carb regime will not only affect candida overgrowth but both good and bad flora species of bacteria as well.  Candida is not a bacteria, but a fungus.

In making a very strong flora ... candida, bacterial overgrowths and most parasites will recede.  All flora bacteria need some carbos to survive ... good and bad.  By cutting carbs, maybe you are just making more room for the candida.  The trick then is to be highly selective in the carbs you do eat.

Eat only certain compliant carbs ...and as you said no-dried-fruit.  But just as bad is fruit juice ... none!  Eat daily fiber ... (which are just special carbs) ... ground flax - 2Tbsp in 8oz water ... + FOS and/or ARA6 (1tsp/day)... apple/grapefruit pectin (2 tabs/meal) + barley/wheat grass powder (1Tbsp/day) + some homemade meat/fish broth ... + extra B and C vitamins and your candida should fade, permanently.  The strategy then is to eat in such a way as to make for a very strong flora.  It in-turn will take care of any overgrows - candida, or otherwise.

John
Posted by: CarolineC, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 4:43am; Reply: 13
Quoted from dancer
I know it  Hadoken,
I TOTALLY AGREE wit YOU!
MY  LIVER is always in difficulty...I 've high level of transaminasi...
so...what do you suggest x type 0  ( a little underweight + systemic yeast infection) liver detox?
What do you mean by  ..having any normal meals?
Do you think that my daily menu , in my conditions, is correct or should I have to change something ?
thanks!
ciao
 


Dancer, I think what your eating is fine....with the candida you  just need to watch the fruit intake. its sad since summer fruit is in season. :'(

tuna Stir Fry... is nothing big, but taste good.   I take  a piece of tuna and chop it in small pieces.  I slice some bok choy, celery, onions, snap peas and some carrots.  I saute them  in a little olive oil.. season with whatever you feel like it ..add  the tuna and  just cook it  quickly. I then put some plaxseed  oil over it... thats it.

Caroline
Posted by: CarolineC, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 4:46am; Reply: 14
Quoted from suzedgar
Breadkast:
sliced steak and steamed artichokes
Green tea and veg glycerine
Supplements

Lunch:
Cod and steamed veggies - carrots, asparagus

snack: green tea, dried peas (my version of chips)

Dinner: will probably have benny veggies, pumpkin seeds and garlic - maybe a little protein as I am going to work out

I also really suffer from constipation - I think it is related to slow digestion, stress and a toxic liver.  I have found that a powdered mag/calcium combo dissolved in water in the morning and evening really helps


suz...
do you dry  your own peas?  How do you do it? and I am interested in the  stuff you take for  constipation...what is is? a powder?  how much of each?  
Caroline
Posted by: CarolineC, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 4:52am; Reply: 15
Deb, just a thought..... since I have been following the Candida ritual..I have become WAY more  constipated. I am  startng to believe it is part of the die off process  .  

I was going to start the morning off with  some stewed prunes,,,but  oooooooooo bad idea, too much sugar and the yeast is  just crying out to be fed!
Caroline
Posted by: debs, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:57am; Reply: 16
Quoted from itslyn
i have a question Debs, i thought that nutritional yeast and candida were major no-way's. i notice its in ur breakfast tho. u clearly know more than i if its working for u.. can u comment?


nutritional yeast isnt the same.its not a living yeast its dead with all the beneficial b vitamins thats why you mustnt cook with it as you will destroy the essential b vitamins.
recipe for almond yoghurt maybe in the recibase.
candida die off will constipate you but thats why when i bought threelac i bought their oxi enzyme & their oxi ? something liquid that helps with die off but i've run out & short of cash  :-/

john- i realise candida die off would affect the flora balance thats why i take a probiotic supplement thats why when candida killed off(although you cant kill it completely) you have to keep taking probiotics and only add compliant carbs extremely gradual otherwise those critters will start all over again.
i do take citricidal grapefruit seed extract but wary of grapefruit in general as taking quite a few supplements & grapefruit & supps do not mix.
what do you think?
Posted by: proto, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 8:12am; Reply: 17
Hmm, natto for breakfast - usually with scallion and a raw egg. Some fish too, but unfortunately often from a can. Some self prepared mustard and some soy sauce to spice it all up. Usually also some wallnuts goes with this too. Loads of pills and some protein powder with diluted berry juice of some kind.

Green tea or some Indian coffee substitute for snack and some fruit salad with some tahini.

Lunch takes form with a slice of turkey loaf on a slice of rye-amaranth cracker topped with some diluted peanut butter and a salad leaf or two. I try to blend some honey into this and that to check my tolerance with variable results.

Snack probably not on due to not feeling very well at this point:-) But I tend to half force myself to have a fruit or something, possibly with soy yoghurt. If I'm on the move I tend to have trail mix of peanuts and dried figs and apricots and occasionally suffer not very nice results from eating it - headache an such.

Decaffeined coffee with soy milk and perhaps some almonds.

Some red or dry white wine before or after dinner.

Dinner almost always is a disaster unless it is just some very basic miso soup but I tend to try some sauted vegetables or even risotto or kasha.

I take probiotics, melatonin, calcium-potassium-magnesium-bor? and licorice before going to bed and OPC's twice daily to keep my memory going.

Looking forward to trying nettle root as I just had a session with sweet desserts and seem to need something to get the balance right. These desserts were carefully prepared with neutral sweeteners and grains but didn't do me any good especially when I didn't have enough cooling space to keep them from spoiling.
Posted by: suzedgar, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 2:07pm; Reply: 18
Caroline,
I buy the dried peas from Wholefoods - they are called "just peas" - they are the only carb thing I have other than the occasional sweet potatoe. They are peas with nothing added - when dried, they have a slight sweet flavor to them.
The calcium/mag combo is wonderful for pushing things along - I can't remember what the brand is  (I am not at home right now) - I think it is called Perque.  I also take 1/2 teaspoon of their vitamin C powder - with each meal - this helps the constipation.  I also drink a weak cup of "dieters tea" in the evening - purely for constipation. I think it is very important to get things moving - that is the only reason I am taking the tea right now.
I am hoping to have some success with the UDA Plus from Dr D. - I am taking four capsules a day.  This is a new addition to my candida protocol.
Wow - this is not an easy thing to beat!  I long to have fruit!
Posted by: dancer, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 2:50pm; Reply: 19
Hello everyone!
today it's my birthday ...I'm 31 years old , now!
I'm happy to have so many  friends from all the world, and to have BTD  to follow to  improve my health and  to undertand -deeply- and take care of   my body, and my mind.

About my menu:
today
Breakfast .
macadamia yougurt + veg glycerine

Lunch:
steamed summer pumpkin + flax oil &
perch.

break:
some fresh cherries

Dinner:
steamed daikon + raw chicory +
flax oil & perch with herbs ( rosemary+ thyme+ curcuma)

I want to try to eat 2 eggs + vegetable x my Breakfast, 3 times x week ( alternatively with my favourite almond or macadamia or walnut homemade yogurt).
I think it's hard x me to eat meat or fish x breakfast, as first  meal in the morning...!
here in Italy the breakfast of 99% peolple is:
milk or yogurt + toasted bread or cereals or biscuits + honey or jam ...

I'm happy to not follow this  standard meal  and to have my BTD compliant breakfast .

Yes. i'm eating some fruits ( beneficial only)  ABSOLUTELY NOT FRUIT JUICES..
I'm eating some fruits x my carbs necessarious intake and to avoid chetosy..

I know that there are 2 different school of thinking about anty-yeast diet.
1) NO -NO ALL SUGARS ( honey & FRUITS) - only a litlle quantity of whole grains
2) YES ONLY SOME SPECIFIC SUGARS ( like John reports in his reply)

I 'm following BTD 0 with the principles of SCD diet that allows only simply charboidrates. ( I've sent a message about WHY COOCKED FRUITS CAN BE EATEN IF A CHILD HAS YEAST). http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info
I'm following BTD 0 + SCD because with systemic fungus infection I've COLITIS and IBS..and so complex carbs won't be the answer.
My injured gut won't be able to digest  them and they'll end up being even more food for the microbes, yeast, fungus, that I'm trying to get rid off.

Before to find SCD I was following BTD  eatinf gluten-free grains porridge for 1 of my meal ( mostly x breakfast) but I continued to be bloated, sugars craving and terribly UNDERWEIGHT!
So I was so desperate..I was ending up to go the hospital ( where  the menu is STANDARD : milk+ toasted bread + jam x breakfast - white pasta or rice with tomato & grana cheese + meat or fish+ vegetables + white bread x lunch and dinner ...!!!!!AARGHHH!)
so I tried SCD  principles  keeping my BTD 0 list x my food choices of avoid and beneficial.
I STOP ALL GRAINS ( also the gluten free grains -like rice , quinoa and amaranth that I was eating) and I star to eat more NUTS ( almond, walnut, macadamia)  finely groundend  until to obtain a sort of nut-butter... and x my carbs I used coocked fruits and root vegetables..
Well ...I didn't go to the hospital because , from January 2005 to June 2005, now, I  gained 7 KILOS!!!
from 34,5 kg to 41,5 kg x 1,66m!!!
I've still abdomynal  pains , constipation ,  IBS, and fungus overgrown..but the gained weight is a sign of recovery, I think, even if it  is a very slow recovery...

I had know an american  nutritionist (Mr Russel Mariani) - John know him and his intestynal rejuvenation program- . He healed himself from ALL DYGESTIVE PROBLEMS  searching about nutrition, diets and natural health medicine x many hears...
He followed a MABCROBIOTIC DIET  when the doctor told him he had a colon cancer and that he was dying...Stopped to eat all the red meat he was eating 3 times x day and he stared to eat whole grains, no meat ...etc...with the years he changed his first approach to natural diet , too rigid  such as his first  MACROBIOTIC DIET. if one diet is REALLY GOOD and HEALTHY IT CAN BE SIMPLE  and APPETIBLE TO FOLLOW x ALL THE PEOPLE..Now he eats. whole garins, red meat, fish, many vegetables, miso soup ...a lot of variety of sesonal foods of EVERY FOODS CATEGORY.He thinks that PERFECT HEALTH MEANS THE ABILITY TO EAT AND DIGEST  EVERYTHING YOU WANT AND LIKE. ( I asked him what is his bllot type, but he didn't know...I think he is an A type...and so he had had beneficies stopping red meat and eating grains...Anyway he knows BTD System but he wrote me that BTD doesn't give REAL GOOD POSITIVE  HEALTHY RESULTS on long time...and that BTD theory  and tests are  based on HEALTHY BLOOD...
(I don't agree with him!!!)  
He suggested me to eat WHOLE GRAINS PORRIDGE x my breakfast , to CUT ALL SUGARS ( fruits + honey) and to take a synergic nutracetical supplement of  PROBIOTIC + ENZYMES based on KLAMATH ALGA- a  natural power-food containing all the minerals, proteins, vitamins  and  essential fatty acids we need ( CELL-TECH is the distributor of these products). http://www.celltech.com
I know that ALGA KLAMATH is avoid x type 0 and there are  some doubts
about its purity ( so , as Isa Manuela always remembers, Klamath is ILLEGAL in Switzerland).
So I didn't start his program and suggestions...x lack of money to buy all those american supplements and  because I believe that HAVING TROUBLE TO COMPLETELY DIGEST COMPLEX CARBS , with an irritate and inflammated bowel and gut , all those undigested carbs 'll finish to feed  all the bad patogens!

So I'm continuing to following my BTD 0 diet WHITOUT DAIRY & GRAINS.
I eat mostly proteins+ fats+ nuts( butter)+ VEGETABLES and BENEFICIAL FRUITS X MY p.m break . and I use, instead of GRAINS, some BENEFICIAL BEANS ( like adzuky) .
ciao ciao!
all the best to you!
love
friendly
Posted by: suzedgar, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 3:06pm; Reply: 20
I had no idea that Candida die off causes constipation - is that really true?  I thought maybe candida causes constipation in the first place.  Ever since I addes the UDA Plus to my protocol, I am constipated.  I am also taking milk thistle to help the liver - wonder if that causes the same?
Posted by: debs, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 4:46pm; Reply: 21
hi suzedgar yes candida die off can cause constipation thats one of the reasons threelac offer other things to take alongside it.as the candida is killed off it can jam the old works.
Posted by: suzedgar, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:02pm; Reply: 22
Debs,
This threelac stuff - is it Dr D approved?  I know it is expensive but is it worth it? Sorry to ask you again - what is the website address?  Did the oxy stuff help your constipation?
Thanks
Suz
Posted by: suzedgar, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:17pm; Reply: 23
Debs,
I found the threelac website - sounds a bit too good to be true.  What have you done to combat the constipation? How long have you done the threelac for and what were your die-off symptoms?
Sorry for all the questions - but I am really considering doing this
Suz
Posted by: resting, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 5:36pm; Reply: 24
Hi debs,

The reason that I focus on the health of our flora is for the sake of perminancy and stability.  If you look at candida growth as natural and as seasonally cyclical, you arrive at a whole different understanding of just how to tend to it.  

We have 4 seasons - so lets start at WINTER ... mild ketosis time - very little to no sugar at all ... fiber and carbos are in the root veggies ... no greens (chlorophyl) ... a season of major candida/flora die-off because of small amt. of  sugars >>> SPRING continues the low sugar [except colostrum is a food very high in sugars.  I am starting to suspect that beach sap it laden with the sugar ribose.  Which gives very high energy but our bodies tend to make glycogen rather than make fat with it.]  trend ... no fruit of any kind here .... germination of all grains/seeds/nuts usually turns complex carbos into simple sugars - so eat only very slowly so amylase (sugar digestion) is done well before the end of the GI tract where the 'normal' home for candida is ... the greens are young grass powders and sprouts (BTD compliant veggies) ... this season is geared to a severe restriction on any overgrowths >>> SUMMER ups to intake of food considerably.  The quality (with chlorophyl and iodine(from seaweed)) and quantity of most foods.  And with this candida overgrowths are more likely .... eat few fruits ... as they come into local growth patterns - usually the price dips.  So for many North Americans it will mean (when fruit is eaten) mostly a fruit diet of berries.  Fruits from tropical climates usually have extremely high sugar levels ... and so are perhaps OK for folks with no candida ... no grains except perhaps rice - the advisement re. slow eating is very important - eating on-the-run is a quick trip to an early grave!  I find it also interesting that most anti-candida plants ripen at this time - grapefruit (seed extract), olive leaf, etc  The strength of our flora should also peak here ... it should be considered as the major candida fighter. >>> AUTUMN is harvest time and sugar content in all fruits/veggies is maximized.  Without modern reliance on storage: this season's grains come through with carbos (which are chains of sugars - tied together) ... this is THE season that is hardest on a person with overgrowth problems, but strongly adhering to BTD basics will help immensely ... +++ .... anyone (except the O nonnie) should drink cabbage rejuvelac especially AWAY from the acidity that comes via meals.  To increase the acidophilus it should help to take 1tsp of the FOS stirred into the juice.  [FOS is a very, very important fiber.  It is a carbo that does not break into smaller sugars, nor does it trigger insulin production; but it DOES feed the microbes of the flora especially the acidophilus.  The vast majority of any supplemented flora bacteria will not survive past the acididity of the stomach.  Since 0's are known for high acid in their stomach, very few bacteria will survive if they are not enteric coated.] It is interesting to note how prominent the colour orange is here ... carrots, yams, and pumpkins are met with an 'orange' (declining)sun and often a harvest-moon.  Onions, garlic, and beets make super-food choices.  At autumn's beginning a superior anti-candida fighter ripens.  It is the clove bud!  At the very end of autumn (hunting season)... a diet high in meat will trigger easy ketosis for O's. >>> then WINTER again

So the general answer re. candida is - it depends.  

I noticed that you had thought of a candida-depression link.  This is very true.  The cyclic patterning also occurs in depression.  Example: SUMMER ... is mainly chlorophyl-green + edible flowers.  Why is the traditional colour of joy, yellow?  Isn't the sun - yellow?  Should we not exercise (work in the garden) here?  To counter this should we not sleep outdoors as often as possible, away from any artificial light?  Shouldn't we focus on blueberries here as a summer-fruit?  [Strange ... the indigo pigmentation of blueberries is the same as the night sky.]
One of the 'worst' things to do is to pick one that works and stick-to-it.  By varying strategies in tune with the seasons, this too can end.

...... much more too ......

different ideas !!!!!!!

John
Posted by: debs, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 6:47pm; Reply: 25
i find the threelac to be very good & has such a delish taste.i personally feel its been worth it imho.the oxy stuff helps altho sometimes if i've forgotten to take it i know cos i get more bunged up than usual.i am on my 2nd box of threelac & expect to be taking it for sometime.according to the website they reckon its usual that you take for something like 2-3 months & i think a box for every year you've had candida.well i took this to be be perhaps a little sales spiel after all how do you know how long you've had candida? so i intend to keep tabs with the spit test.
i've found the die off symptoms have fluctuated but so far i've had sort of blurry vision,skin rashes,itchy you know where,thirsty,bloating & constipation & brain fog & tiredness & lethargy.
Have i answered everything?
Posted by: suzedgar, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 7:13pm; Reply: 26
Thank you Debs - just one more question - what is the oxy stuff and how does it help constipatoin? Does it really help?
Posted by: debs, Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 8:19pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
Hi debs,

The reason that I focus on the health of our flora is for the sake of perminancy and stability.  If you look at candida growth as natural and as seasonally cyclical, you arrive at a whole different understanding of just how to tend to it.  

We have 4 seasons - so lets start at WINTER ... mild ketosis time - very little to no sugar at all ... fiber and carbos are in the root veggies ... no greens (chlorophyl) ... a season of major candida/flora die-off because of small amt. of  sugars >>> SPRING continues the low sugar [except colostrum is a food very high in sugars.  I am starting to suspect that beach sap it laden with the sugar ribose.  Which gives very high energy but our bodies tend to make glycogen rather than make fat with it.]  trend ... no fruit of any kind here .... germination of all grains/seeds/nuts usually turns complex carbos into simple sugars - so eat only very slowly so amylase (sugar digestion) is done well before the end of the GI tract where the 'normal' home for candida is ... the greens are young grass powders and sprouts (BTD compliant veggies) ... this season is geared to a severe restriction on any overgrowths >>> SUMMER ups to intake of food considerably.  The quality (with chlorophyl and iodine(from seaweed)) and quantity of most foods.  And with this candida overgrowths are more likely .... eat few fruits ... as they come into local growth patterns - usually the price dips.  So for many North Americans it will mean (when fruit is eaten) mostly a fruit diet of berries.  Fruits from tropical climates usually have extremely high sugar levels ... and so are perhaps OK for folks with no candida ... no grains except perhaps rice - the advisement re. slow eating is very important - eating on-the-run is a quick trip to an early grave!  I find it also interesting that most anti-candida plants ripen at this time - grapefruit (seed extract), olive leaf, etc  The strength of our flora should also peak here ... it should be considered as the major candida fighter. >>> AUTUMN is harvest time and sugar content in all fruits/veggies is maximized.  Without modern reliance on storage: this season's grains come through with carbos (which are chains of sugars - tied together) ... this is THE season that is hardest on a person with overgrowth problems, but strongly adhering to BTD basics will help immensely ... +++ .... anyone (except the O nonnie) should drink cabbage rejuvelac especially AWAY from the acidity that comes via meals.  To increase the acidophilus it should help to take 1tsp of the FOS stirred into the juice.  [FOS is a very, very important fiber.  It is a carbo that does not break into smaller sugars, nor does it trigger insulin production; but it DOES feed the microbes of the flora especially the acidophilus.  The vast majority of any supplemented flora bacteria will not survive past the acididity of the stomach.  Since 0's are known for high acid in their stomach, very few bacteria will survive if they are not enteric coated.] It is interesting to note how prominent the colour orange is here ... carrots, yams, and pumpkins are met with an 'orange' (declining)sun and often a harvest-moon.  Onions, garlic, and beets make super-food choices.  At autumn's beginning a superior anti-candida fighter ripens.  It is the clove bud!  At the very end of autumn (hunting season)... a diet high in meat will trigger easy ketosis for O's. >>> then WINTER again

So the general answer re. candida is - it depends.  

I noticed that you had thought of a candida-depression link.  This is very true.  The cyclic patterning also occurs in depression.  Example: SUMMER ... is mainly chlorophyl-green + edible flowers.  Why is the traditional colour of joy, yellow?  Isn't the sun - yellow?  Should we not exercise (work in the garden) here?  To counter this should we not sleep outdoors as often as possible, away from any artificial light?  Shouldn't we focus on blueberries here as a summer-fruit?  [Strange ... the indigo pigmentation of blueberries is the same as the night sky.]
One of the 'worst' things to do is to pick one that works and stick-to-it.  By varying strategies in tune with the seasons, this too can end.

...... much more too ......

different ideas !!!!!!!

John


very very interesting John.when you say one of the worst things to do is to pick one that works & stick to it.Do you mean worst thing to do is to pick one anti candida strategy & stick to it? As i have done many different anti candida regimes & am taking citricidal also.However its interesting about the fruit as although i have limited my fruit & only had fresh fruit i hadnt given the seasonal side of fruit much thought.hmm! trouble here though berries are very expensive.although i finally managed to locate organic fresh blueberries.they were actually same price as normal blueberries you just got 25g less.they were delicious much nicer than the others & even my family noticed.
anyhow i digress.so john you're saying naturally sweeter foods are available in winter when we need them most?
havent heard of beech sap before?is it used like veg.glycerine?
suzedgar i did find the oxystress stuff good for the candida die off constipation.cant remember how it said it worked now but it does really.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 12:37am; Reply: 28
I bet you are all familiar with DR D s therapies for candidiasis, right?
page 288 of the encyclopedia.....

the basic protocols:
yeast-fungus
immune enhancing
intestinal health
and allergy control

most of you are following these, I hope? )

I read many still eating quite a few avoids.......and that s not helping one bit......
Posted by: CarolineC, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 2:51am; Reply: 29
Quoted from suzedgar
Caroline,
I buy the dried peas from Wholefoods - they are called "just peas" - they are the only carb thing I have other than the occasional sweet potatoe. They are peas with nothing added - when dried, they have a slight sweet flavor to them.
The calcium/mag combo is wonderful for pushing things along - I can't remember what the brand is  (I am not at home right now) - I think it is called Perque.  I also take 1/2 teaspoon of their vitamin C powder - with each meal - this helps the constipation.  I also drink a weak cup of "dieters tea" in the evening - purely for constipation. I think it is very important to get things moving - that is the only reason I am taking the tea right now.
I am hoping to have some success with the UDA Plus from Dr D. - I am taking four capsules a day.  This is a new addition to my candida protocol.
Wow - this is not an easy thing to beat!  I long to have fruit!


Suz, I will look at my whole foods for the peas..there is no oil to them? that is usually the "catch" to a yummy store bought  snack. also, my other thought is that peas are a starch which turns into a sugar in your system.. which  will feed the  yeast..
I am going to look for the Perque at the Whole Foods. I will have to look to see what is in the Dieters  Tea..I want to stay away  from Senna, is that in  it?

I do understand  how you feel about the fruit...its a  hard thing. I  look at this Candida like this: Its kinda like trying to kill Bin Laden and his horde.. you just have to keep at it. and one day it  will be  gone. ::)
Caroline

Posted by: CarolineC, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 3:19am; Reply: 30
Quoted from dancer
Hello everyone!
today it's my birthday ...I'm 31 years old , now!
I know that there are 2 different school of thinking about anty-yeast diet.
1) NO -NO ALL SUGARS ( honey & FRUITS) - only a litlle quantity of whole grains
2) YES ONLY SOME SPECIFIC SUGARS ( like John reports in his reply)

I'm following BTD 0 + SCD because with systemic fungus infection I've COLITIS and IBS..and so complex carbs won't be the answer.
My injured gut won't be able to digest  them and they'll end up being even more food for the microbes, yeast, fungus, that I'm trying to get rid off.

Before to find SCD I was following BTD  eatinf gluten-free grains porridge for 1 of my meal ( mostly x breakfast) but I continued to be bloated, sugars craving and terribly UNDERWEIGHT!
I STOP ALL GRAINS ( also the gluten free grains -like rice , quinoa and amaranth that I was eating) and I star to eat more NUTS ( almond, walnut, macadamia)  finely groundend  until to obtain a sort of nut-butter... and x my carbs I used coocked fruits and root vegetables..
I've still abdomynal  pains , constipation ,  IBS, and fungus overgrown..but the gained weight is a sign of recovery, I think, even if it  is a very slow recovery...

I had know an american  nutritionist (Mr Russel Mariani) - John know him and his intestynal rejuvenation program- . He healed himself from ALL DYGESTIVE PROBLEMS  searching about nutrition, diets and natural health medicine x many hears...
He followed a MABCROBIOTIC DIET  when the doctor told him he had a colon cancer and that he was dying...Stopped to eat all the red meat he was eating 3 times x day and he stared to eat whole grains, no meat ...etc...with the years he changed his first approach to natural diet , too rigid  such as his first  MACROBIOTIC DIET. if one diet is REALLY GOOD and HEALTHY IT CAN BE SIMPLE  and APPETIBLE TO FOLLOW x ALL THE PEOPLE..Now he eats. whole garins, red meat, fish, many vegetables, miso soup ...a lot of variety of sesonal foods of EVERY FOODS CATEGORY.He thinks that PERFECT HEALTH MEANS THE ABILITY TO EAT AND DIGEST  EVERYTHING YOU WANT AND LIKE. ( I asked him what is his bllot type, but he didn't know...I think he is an A type...and so he had had beneficies stopping red meat and eating grains...Anyway he knows BTD System but he wrote me that BTD doesn't give REAL GOOD POSITIVE  HEALTHY RESULTS on long time...and that BTD theory  and tests are  based on HEALTHY BLOOD...
(I don't agree with him!!!)  
He suggested me to eat WHOLE GRAINS PORRIDGE x my breakfast , to CUT ALL SUGARS ( fruits + honey) and to take a synergic nutracetical supplement of  PROBIOTIC + ENZYMES based on KLAMATH ALGA- a  natural power-food containing all the minerals, proteins, vitamins  and  essential fatty acids we need ( CELL-TECH is the distributor of these products). http://www.celltech.com
I know that ALGA KLAMATH is avoid x type 0 and there are  some doubts
about its purity ( so , as Isa Manuela always remembers, Klamath is ILLEGAL in Switzerland).
So I didn't start his program and suggestions...x lack of money to buy all those american supplements and  because I believe that HAVING TROUBLE TO COMPLETELY DIGEST COMPLEX CARBS , with an irritate and inflammated bowel and gut , all those undigested carbs 'll finish to feed  all the bad patogens!

So I'm continuing to following my BTD 0 diet WHITOUT DAIRY & GRAINS.
I eat mostly proteins+ fats+ nuts( butter)+ VEGETABLES and BENEFICIAL FRUITS X MY p.m break . and I use, instead of GRAINS, some BENEFICIAL BEANS ( like adzuky) .
ciao ciao!
all the best to you!
love
friendly


dancer.. Happy birthday!!!  

I read your post and I thought I would throw out some thoughts, maybe I am just confused. but before I do, After  you shared what the  typical  brakfast meal  in Italy I had to laugh..that is so healthy compared to  typical American meal, which ususally is a Krispy Kreme donut or a "pop tart" and  if they are  really good... they will pour from a small packet  a "oatmeal" mixture that hardly has any oatmeal in it at all.

I looked at the SCD diet your on, when I started on BTD 6 years ago, I have colitis, diverticulitis, IBS so badly, that I didn't leave my house for more than a hour at atime for 2 years. Once I started eating BTD that started to leave. But it  only completely left, which I started to  not food combine and got  pretty much grain free, except for the SMALL amount that Dr. D recommends.  If I am not wrong, you are also eating some dairy? If you are there is IBS waiting to happen.  You also mention honey and cooked  fruits... when you look at  both even the dried fruits they are both sugars, it really doesn't matter what form they come in. Dried fruits, cooked or not  has one of the highest glycemic levels of fruit. Yes, it helps aide in constipation, but if your fighting Candida, your defeating your purpose, because your feeding the Candida, which in turn is causing constipation. its a vicious cycle. I am wondering, have you  every followed BTD  strictly? and did not mix grains and protein at one meal? Even now if I do that...I am in BAD shape. Gas, bloat..etc..
I do understand  the finances it takes  to buy the american supplements..but I know following the Candida diet, would help.
I'm just concerned you dabbling in a couple diets that are not compatible.
Now, if I  have misread the post... PLEASE please forgive me. Or if anyone has other thoughts.. please correct me.  :B
All in Love, Caroline

Posted by: CarolineC, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 3:29am; Reply: 31
Quoted from debs
i find the threelac to be very good & has such a delish taste.i personally feel its been worth it imho.the oxy stuff helps altho sometimes if i've forgotten to take it i know cos i get more bunged up than usual.i am on my 2nd box of threelac & expect to be taking it for sometime.according to the website they reckon its usual that you take for something like 2-3 months & i think a box for every year you've had candida.well i took this to be be perhaps a little sales spiel after all how do you know how long you've had candida? so i intend to keep tabs with the spit test.
i've found the die off symptoms have fluctuated but so far i've had sort of blurry vision,skin rashes,itchy you know where,thirsty,bloating & constipation & brain fog & tiredness & lethargy.
Have i answered everything?


I couldn't agree more with Debs... the longer you have had Candida thelonger it is going to take, I know inmy heart it has been since I was a teen. so, I am in for the long haul.
the symptoms I have had so far fighting it and they change all the time, its like the yeast are holding a three ring  circus inside me.  blurry vision ( which is a freak out!), skin rash ( that I try not to pick on), itchy ( that I try not to scratch), can't get enough water, bloating, CONSTIPATION, brain farts, tired ( hard time getting up), did I say CONSTIPATION? Like I said, its like  trying to kill Bin Laden and his horde...its keeps going in another direction.

We'll get the little alien yet!
Caroline
Posted by: CarolineC, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 3:33am; Reply: 32
Quoted from lola
I bet you are all familiar with DR D s therapies for candidiasis, right?
page 288 of the encyclopedia.....

the basic protocols:
yeast-fungus
immune enhancing
intestinal health
and allergy control

most of you are following these, I hope? )

I read many still eating quite a few avoids.......and that s not helping one bit......


"I read many still eating quite a few avoids.......and that s not helping one bit......" Lola, your right!
and I agree.... you can't really choose bit and pieces of BTD.. it won't work.  Dr. D has done years and years of study. We  say over and over again how thankful ( atleast I do) for BTD, then we need to follow his study and the protocol.
Just my humble opinion.
tucking my tail underneath and crawling over to the corner, before I get hit with a shoe.
Carline
Posted by: 689 (Guest), Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 3:57am; Reply: 33
Quoted from dancer
I know it  Hadoken,
I TOTALLY AGREE wit YOU!
MY  LIVER is always in difficulty...I 've high level of transaminasi...
so...what do you suggest x type 0  ( a little underweight + systemic yeast infection) liver detox?
What do you mean by  ..having any normal meals?
Do you think that my daily menu , in my conditions, is correct or should I have to change something ?
thanks!
ciao
 


I've just written another thread on Detox Team.

Posted by: dancer, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 9:24am; Reply: 34
Quoted from CarolineC


dancer.. Happy birthday!!!  

I read your post and I thought I would throw out some thoughts, maybe I am just confused. but before I do, After  you shared what the  typical  brakfast meal  in Italy I had to laugh..that is so healthy compared to  typical American meal, which ususally is a Krispy Kreme donut or a "pop tart" and  if they are  really good... they will pour from a small packet  a "oatmeal" mixture that hardly has any oatmeal in it at all.

I looked at the SCD diet your on, when I started on BTD 6 years ago, I have colitis, diverticulitis, IBS so badly, that I didn't leave my house for more than a hour at atime for 2 years. Once I started eating BTD that started to leave. But it  only completely left, which I started to  not food combine and got  pretty much grain free, except for the SMALL amount that Dr. D recommends.  If I am not wrong, you are also eating some dairy? If you are there is IBS waiting to happen.  You also mention honey and cooked  fruits... when you look at  both even the dried fruits they are both sugars, it really doesn't matter what form they come in. Dried fruits, cooked or not  has one of the highest glycemic levels of fruit. Yes, it helps aide in constipation, but if your fighting Candida, your defeating your purpose, because your feeding the Candida, which in turn is causing constipation. its a vicious cycle. I am wondering, have you  every followed BTD  strictly? and did not mix grains and protein at one meal? Even now if I do that...I am in BAD shape. Gas, bloat..etc..
I do understand  the finances it takes  to buy the american supplements..but I know following the Candida diet, would help.
I'm just concerned you dabbling in a couple diets that are not compatible.
Now, if I  have misread the post... PLEASE please forgive me. Or if anyone has other thoughts.. please correct me.  :B
All in Love, Caroline




Dear Caroline, thanks x your wishes!
About your comment.

I'm following BTD 0 100%:
I eat  mostly BENEFICIALS + some neutrals and NO AVOID.
MEAT - FISH -NUTS- GREENS -VEGETABLES- FLAX OIL
I don't eat any dairy from 2 years  ( my almond yogurt is from NUTS, only)
and I don't eat any grains ( gluten free ,too) from 1 years..

I found SCD theory useful x me :
If I'm not be able to completely digest complex carbs - because I'm very sensitive a nd with sick digestive system- if I eat- like I was eating!- any grains -cereals, well they finish only to ferment and so to feed the bad pathogens!
Eating simply sugars by fruits, I absorb and digest all my carbs  safely, without feed bad pathogens! (SCD is used succesfully from parents with autistic children and IBS, Chron, Colitis...: it's the quality of carbohidrates that makes the difference!)

And , about fruits :
I eat ONLY BENEFICIAL 0 TYPE, according the season ( Jhon, your post about foods and seasons IS GREAT!!!!!!!1thanks!)

Berries, Cherries, Plums, pineapple, ...

And I've always  strictly followed combination food .
I NEVER eat carbs  + proteins ( except root vegetables + meat or fish)
ciao ciao!
Posted by: resting, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 12:33pm; Reply: 35
CIAO dancer,

There is a little 'trick' that may help you and its very inexpensive.  It can cause some problems for 0 nonnies but for 0's (like you, Maria) and others, it should be fine, even beneficial.  The 'trick' is cabbage rejuvelac.  [The old AVOID-label for O's was because store-bought sauerkraut uses vinegar(acetic acid) in its pickeling process.  Homemade sauerkraut forms another juice called D+ lactic acid, which is very supportive of the flora's biophedus bacteria.]

Recipe: use 2 clean small jars ... (label them #1 and #2)
          to 1 cup of distilled water add a small handful of cabbage and blend
          pour mix into #1
          let this mix stand on the counter-top (or warm fridge top) for 2 days
          at the end is a very mild-tasting sauerkraut ... seperate the cabbage from the water
          if you wish by filtering the rejuvelac through a terry cloth
          save 1Tbsp of the rejuvelac-water
          drink this on an empty stomach (away from meals)
          [OPTION: dissolve 1tsp of FOS in the rejuvelac-water before drinking]

         To make this an even easier process - repeat everything in the above on the second Day
         with jar#2
         on Day #3 - (as a 'starter') add 1Tbsp of rejuvelac-water to the water of the new blended
         mix in jar#1
         the rejuvelac will take just 24 hours to make (saving a whole day)
         Repeat this when the rejuvelac has been finished in jar#2 (on Day #4)
         Since now it only takes 1/2 the time with 1Tsp of 'starter' - on one day the rejuvelac-          water from jar#1 can be drunk and the rejuvelac-water in jar#2 on the other days

The only drawback from doing this forever is that the rejuvelac tends to get strong-tasting after a week or so ... just repeat the process if a new batch is to be made

It really is good-stuff ......


John
Posted by: 808 (Guest), Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 12:56pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from hadoken


I've just written another thread on Detox Team.



hadoken,  what does this mean?  I'm looking for info on liver cleansing.  Don't know where Detox Team is and would like to find thread.
Posted by: dancer, Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 1:53pm; Reply: 37
Many thanks John!!!!
I'll try your  cabbage rejuvelac!
It's sounds very useful and...deliciuos!

ah... I totally agree with your reflection about seasons...I'm VERY INTERESTED to have one another your suggestions..
About FOOD'S CHOICE and SEASON...
YOU ARE A GREAT EXPERT on it!
SO
Could you so kind to give us one example of  WINTER- SPRING-SUMMER-AUTUMN menu?

WINTER MENU..
breakfast, breack, lunch, dinner...

SPRING MENU...

I'm very curious to understand HOW TO REALIZE the connections foods ( according your type) & season in practice!

Thanks if you have the time and the kidness to make this !
ciao ciao!
Posted by: proto, Monday, June 27, 2005, 8:18am; Reply: 38
Quoted from John_McDonell_O+
Homemade sauerkraut forms another juice called D+ lactic acid, which is very supportive of the flora's biophedus bacteria
What about lactofermented whey - I happen to have a bottle of this in concentrated from and has been using it in place of vinegar and was wondering if I could have some of it in place of lemon juice before breakfast.

Posted by: Lola, Monday, June 27, 2005, 8:42pm; Reply: 39
whey is to be avoided by Os and
As......( I think nonnies can have some)
so I believe your lactofermented whey would be ok considering you are a nonnie. )
Posted by: Elizabeth, Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 7:56pm; Reply: 40
On diet--it has only been about 10 days, and I am avoiding carbohydrates almost totally--I want to get this under control.  I notice some of you are eating things like beets.  I am missing "beets and sweets" (potato that is).  Do you find they really fit in?  or does eating them cause a setback?  Somewhere I read one should try no carbo for the first three weeks.  Any views?  I have (in 90+ degree weather) made one ounce of grapefruit juice flavor three 8 oz glasses of strong mineral water, ice cold.  Delicious.  Otherwise no juice.  Surely that can't be too much fruit?

Breakfast:
Boneless turkey thighs, marinated in garlic, olive oil, lemon juice, and good curry powder, (just cut off little slices with kitchen shears when you want to cook some--with lots of garlic, keeps well in the refrigerator), sauteed in more olive oil, with a large raw baby spinach salad and "Garden Peach" yellow tomato from my favorite farm stand, pan drippings poured over all. OR

Three egg omelette filled with sliced tomato, sliced onion, and arugula.  OR

Buffalo burger mince sauteed with garlic and onion, with a can of diced organic tomato and Middle Eastern Spice (pinch of Zatar, pinch of allspice), over sauteed mixed summer squash.  (Also obviously works for dinner).

Lunch:  Out, standard Angus burger medium rare, no bun, no nothing--but asked for a little onion and tomato--and got a lovely surprise side of sauteed onions with a slice of raw tomato and a slice of red onion.  Waiter's creativity was much appreciated.

Dinner: (If lunch was out or home late), otherwise works as snack:
2T ground flax
1T leicithin granules
dash sea salt
2T coarsely chopped walnut pieces
1heaping t ground milk thistle seed (here's the liver support)
a little vitamin C powder (less than 1/4 t)
1T ghee

You can put all this in a plastic bag and carry it to work, roll it all around together and it tastes a little like a walnut frosting (you hit little bits of ghee).  The courageous could try adding dried blueberries--I'm still waiting a bit.  This can also be put in a mug, with office hot water to fill, and stir.

If you eat it out of the bag, you must drink liquid nearby (not a tearing emergency, but don't forget); if you use the office H2O, it will make a nice porridge-like thing to eat, with a spoon, and will not go totally slippery before you finish.  This, plus my usual 1000 calcium 500 magnesium seems to keep everything going nicely.

I have in about 10 days lost about 15 pounds (measured as 1.5 inches at the hip--I run 5 pounds to the half inch).  I had no idea how much of my "overweight" was a toxic reaction.  I am not getting much more than about 1000 cal per day now and have probably lost about 3 real pounds.  Not clear how to get more without carbohydrates or overdosing on protein.  

This whole experience is very surprising to me--I did not know I was so ill--and like someone else in one of these threads, when the UDA plus arrived, it was like the charge of the cavalry.  My sense of humor is working, given my previous near-disbelief in candida as a general intestinal problem--and no more depression, to say the least.  I would appreciate hearing from some folks how long this will take.  I'd love to see a glass of red wine again.  But so far, while the morning glass of water reveals a less wild situation, "it's still there."  By the way, I have always been pretty compliant in BTD terms, but had reduced my thyroid medication and given up on HCl supplements--and both were a bad idea.  At this point, I am probably just not going to regenerate those capacities as far as I might like, and I just need to get the job done to keep the balance.  I look forward to reading more meal ideas.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 10:08pm; Reply: 41
I wouldn t change my plan if I were you!
you re loosing weight steadily........and you seem to be doing fine!

if adding root veggies to your diet, slows down your weight loss, then reduce the quantities.

remember this plan is very personal, adjust it to your needs.
great work!! )
Posted by: jbcn (Guest), Thursday, August 11, 2005, 4:47am; Reply: 42
I was reading that the sour green apples, Granny Smith variety are OK for candida.  Otherwise forget any other fruit.  I agree that no grains will speed up the process, but I have lost body mass without them.  I don't like to see my hard earned muscles shrinking!
Posted by: 546 (Guest), Friday, August 12, 2005, 1:50am; Reply: 43
Hi I have been a sufferer of cronic candida infections and have not found the slightest difference in what I eat or don't eat. I do know that vit. C is very important and we can take up to 2000 mg of good C per day. This helps with the constipation thing. I found a suppliment that I take and it is the ONLY thing that ever worked for me. I've tried yeast cleansing kits and nothing seemed to work. If anyone is interested email me directly and I'll tell you what it is. Candida is a viscious cycle and once it's set in it is really hard to get rid of. I am now infection free after only one month of treatment.
Posted by: jamielor (Guest), Friday, August 19, 2005, 4:33pm; Reply: 44
Dancer,
Cutting out all Nuts has cured my IBS.  Actually, I eat quite a lot of beneficial and Neutral fruits.  My ststem simply cannot digest ANY nuts even in small amts.
Even a litte makes me very constipated.
Posted by: 794 (Guest), Saturday, August 27, 2005, 3:45am; Reply: 45
I don't know for shure but I think I have candida yeast or some kind of problems with bread because I would always feel weak and tired when I ate bread for a while.
Now that I am on the diet I feel limber and just overall great.  This is what saved me: staying away from bread, sugar, and dairy products all together.  I eat beef, eggs, sweet potatoes, liver, chicken, fish, carrots, spinach, brocolli and I only drink water.  I also take a mutivitamin everyday and snack on trail mix(Pumpkin seeds and walnuts...), plums, and figs from a health food store during the day.  I just feel cleaner.  I have been on the diet for a week now and the anxiety I always had is now gone.  I say what I want when I want and I don't feel anxious about expressing myself.  I am 22 and I'm a type O.  I feel like I am in perfect health and plan on staying on this diet as long as I can.  It's not very expensive, it's something I can handle now  in college.  I really think this diet is saving my life.  I just need to exercise a little more and I'll be set.  Who do I thank?

Oh yeh and for some reason girls are attracted to me more...I think I've changed dramatically.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 27, 2005, 5:17am; Reply: 46
saverain,
glad to hear about you great success on BTD!! )
good work!
......................................
if you'll go up to the top of the page, right hand side to Member Center, then to Avatar Settings on the lower left side of that page, you can select your blood type and you won't have to keep telling us what it is.
..ty!)
Posted by: lfisher (Guest), Thursday, September 15, 2005, 2:55pm; Reply: 47
I am thinking about trying the Threelac myself.  I don't have as much problems as I used to have with Yeast.  I still have a few that never leave though.  I just hate living on pills.  I already take all the Basic 4 vitamins offered by the blood type diet, and I follow the diet almost 100%.  I do break down at times and eat things I shouldn't have.  How many have tried the stuff?
Posted by: debs, Thursday, September 15, 2005, 7:58pm; Reply: 48
ive tried threelac which i found very good for a while then my body seemed to get used to it & didnt seem as effective after a while though it has a gorgeous lemon flavour. it would taste lovely as a lemon cheesecake flavouring. anyhow i'm usin caprylic acid at the moment.However if i can make a suggestion by all means use threelac but just use it for a while then change when or preferably before your body gets used to it.
Posted by: Elizabeth, Friday, September 16, 2005, 2:24pm; Reply: 49
Just another progress report.  I recently had several clear days on raw red cabbage (and the strict diet continued), and even had some fruit and a sweet potato.  Then made John's great kraut, but couldn't eat it as often (back to work schedule--moving around too much, and some complaints about the interesting aroma).  The original approach was a couple of leaves with every meal, and I will try that again, with kraut at home.  In the meantime, I rechecked the xylitol material I had found on the web (somewhere), and found that contrary to my earlier understanding, it is BAD for candida, which gobbles it down thinking it is sugar and then dies because it cannot digest it.  I have had several packets, and (to give my "quick and dirty how's it going" test, my tummy is flat--i.e. not very inflamed).   This morning, the spit test still showed candida all right--but the tendrils broke quickly into little sparkles and disintegrated.  I think it is dying or dead.  (In contrast to tendrils that hold together like rope, then finally sink to the bottom in a coil.)  Anyway, in the repertoire of "foods against candida" try xylitol.  Has been used for years in sugarless gum, I understand.  This is still a work in progress.
Posted by: TheViking, Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 8:49am; Reply: 50
How much xylitol would you recommend per day?

..there's not really anything I have to put it on right now, or can't think of anything - maybe because I haven't added sugar to anything for about a year or more..

I did sprinkle some directly into my mouth today though.. :p
Posted by: TheViking, Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 8:51am; Reply: 51
Ah, stupid me..

On the package it says: Perfect in tea, coffee & your favourite recipes..

Tea is the word :D
Posted by: theluciddream (Guest), Thursday, October 20, 2005, 11:11pm; Reply: 52
May seem like a simple question, but has anyone tangibly been able to manage their candida probs by using the BTD and sticking to it?
Sounds like us O's really are prone to simliar issues, no doubt largely to do with a combination of antibiotics, 'western diet', pollutants, toxins, stress and celluar susceptibility to them....I for one am hoping the BTD answers some of the questions i have been serahcing for for years!

Good luck to us all :)
Posted by: TT (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 4:09am; Reply: 53
Hi people's,
I'm a newbe to the candida club.  :(
Trying to find my way through. Hubby's got it to, we put it down to the splenda thing, we are way to acidy still. It thrives in a acidic condition. Having oxy-rich to try and bring the acid levels down. So far i'm eatting eggs, meat and salad, lol, still learning. Tell me are rice cakes ok? what fruits are ok to eat? is pinapple juice ok? what nuts can we eat. there are so many different stories and so hard to get confused. i want to stay 100% compliant. I'm also having olive leaf extract as well as inner heath dairy free. 3 kelp caps a day and 2 1/4 tsp. of l-caratine a day. hubby's says: I guess bananas are out? thanks in advance.
Tracy T
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 4:27am; Reply: 54
welcome!!)
here s the link to a site
http://www.wrc.net/wrcnet_content/dietplans/candida_diet.htm

only be sure to check for avoids in the food lists!
this is not a BTD compatible site, ok?
Posted by: TT (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 5:05am; Reply: 55
Thanks lola, thats a start.
Posted by: TT (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 6:44am; Reply: 56
Some one sent me a couple of sites, on one of the sites there is a candida diet for blood groups, here is the sites.

type o: http://yeastinfectionadvisor.com/typeoyeastinfectiondiet.html
type a: http://yeastinfectionadvisor.com/typeayeastinfectiondiet.html
type b: http://yeastinfectionadvisor.com/typebyeastinfectiondiet.html
type ab:http://yeastinfectionadvisor.com/typeabyeastinfectiondiet.html

Don't know how good they are, you be the judge.
Tracy T
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 4:38pm; Reply: 57
tracy that sure is of great help, thanks!!
Posted by: 903 (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 8:11pm; Reply: 58
Your welcome, Tracy!!  ;) Glad you found the info helpful. Yes, there is a lot of great information at Yeast Advisor. Here's the other link I sent you which also has great info. http://www.candida-society.org.uk/
Posted by: debs, Thursday, November 17, 2005, 7:04pm; Reply: 59
I am very interested in this yeast infection o ty[e diet but please be aware if you aren't already that it doesnt take into account nonnies.if i get time i intend to check out the o type foods on it & reprint it for nonnies.ok?
Posted by: Elizabeth, Thursday, November 17, 2005, 10:24pm; Reply: 60
Just a general update--after using a variety of approaches which improved matters a lot (many of which I have shared in this thread), I tried to add back a few sugary/starchy foods (berries, parsnips, spelt bread), and one glass of wine--and rapidly had trouble again.  I  can see why people can take a year to get this sorted out just using diet.  I have now tried the enzyme approach, and wish I had done so earlier.  I think there are several brands--the one I tried is Candex.  It has really been a benefit.  The anti-candida diet is important, and I am still using it, adding only one fruit and at most one starchy vegetable a day.  With diet alone, I found it hard to eat enough to maintain my weight.  In a way, that was the good news, but I have lost all the weight I want or need to lose, and feel the food value of some fruit and some starchy vegetables is really important to get back into the mix.  Also, I will be travelling soon, and may not be able to control everything as at home.  This is a work in progress, and a pesky balance to strike, but I am glad to have another tool to use.
Posted by: TT (Guest), Saturday, November 19, 2005, 3:13am; Reply: 61
I have a quick question,
How long have people here had candida, doe's anything you do get rid of it?
I'm just thinking that if we are all strugling so much maybe these diet's don't work and we should be looking for another answer. I personally believe that giving the body the right enviroment it can heal itself, i read a lot of the diets that are meant to be for candida and everyone still has it. But what really causes candida we should be asking ourselfs, a lot of people are eating the so called candida food and are not getting sick. Maybe we should treat the cause in stead of the symptoms. I have been studing up on this since i found out i have it. The last three day's i have tried a comination of things and so far in just three days my blistery skin is all dried up and almost totally gone, my mind is heaps clearer and believe it or not i have lost three kilos and i didn't starve myself. I have noticed that a lot of thing's i have studied show that acidtosis causes candida, Mybe this idea isn't for every one but it is sure working for me. It's also taking away most of the symtom's of splenda sickness while sticking to the erfyt program. If you want me to continue with what i have to say about this let me know. I don't want to push my ideas on anyone. But i also don't believe we should suffer they way we have been. This is a mean illness and it isn't the way God created the body to me. Let me know any way,
Tracy T
Posted by: Laura P, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 3:32am; Reply: 62
Please Tracy continue...............every idea helps
Posted by: proto, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 7:46am; Reply: 63
This is what I ate for breakfast: a raw egg yolk, which is said to be a rich source of biotin - a vitamin that can keep candida at bay with some natto, which is a rich source of enzymes etc. spiced with some mustard, soy sauce and preserved leek, miso soup made of parsnips, celery root, jerusalem artichokes, shiitake mushrooms, pumpkin, lentils, bladderwrack extract, turkey stock, turkey bacon, onions and spices, dark miso paste, soured kohlrabi, egg white and black mushrooms.
Posted by: TT (Guest), Saturday, November 19, 2005, 8:13am; Reply: 64
Ok.

Well I tried the Candia diet and felt worst that is what got me to studying this horrible thing. I don't believe that God created the human body for it to be feeling run down, sick, tired and just plain unhealthy. A lot of people I know that are my age are on so much medication I think it is unbelievable.
I have been trying to find remedies for years on what the body needs and how to cure Cancers, Aids ECT.
Basically all the things the doctors have said cannot be healed.
I am actually excited that I have Candida; (I know that sounds sick) it has been one step closer to all the studies I have been doing.
I have never looked at foods being a reason before, only looked at supplements.
Well after taking the supplements that the Candida diet suggested and eating the foods it suggested (not eating fruit ect.) I didn't feel any better, I felt worst.
I don't know how all you people can think it helps, think about it, how long have you had Candida and how long have you tried to get rid of it. Ok maybe you get it under control for a while, but then it just flares straight back up. I don't think this is an answer.
With the studies I have now been doing about Candida I have found that it is a symptom of being over acidity, Read this list below:

Excess Acid waste:
Excess acid waste is the cause of may elements. If your diet is largely composed of meats, fish, cheese, breads, white flour foods, white sugar foods, greasy take-always, chocolate, coffee, wine, bear and cigarettes (all acid forming), you may suffer from acid complaints.

Initial symptoms of over-acidity include: acne, agitation, bloating, chemical sensitivities to odours and gas heat, cold hands and feet, constipation, diarrhoea, dizziness, excess head mucus (stuffiness) food allergies, Heartburn, hot urine, Hyperactivity, indigestion, irregular heartbeat, joint pains that travel, Lack of sex drive, low energy, metallic taste in mouth, mild headaches, muscular pains, panic attacks, P.M.T., rapid heartbeat, rapid panting breath, white-coated tongue.

Intermediate symptoms of over-acidity include - Asthma, bacterial and fungal infections, bronchitis, cold sores, colitis, cystitis, dark circles under eyes, depressions, ear aches, flu and migraine headaches, psoriasis, sinusitis, urethritis.

Advanced symptoms of over-acidity include cancer (all forms) Crohn's disease, erythematosus, Hodgkin's disease, Leukaemia, Multiple sclerosis, schizophrenia, systemic lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis.

So this is why I thought to myself I wont treat Candida, I will treat what causes Candida.
I hope this makes sense.
So what I found is we need to eat fruits and vegetables and lots of it. I know that following the ERFYT program has helped me, but I am sure everyone here does the same as me, we look at the list of avoids and stay away from them, we then look at the beneficial and neutral foods and eat them.
How many of us actually have the right portions that Dr D says to have? I’m guilty.
Dr D says to have Lot’s of fruit and vegetables. Vegetables: 1 cup 3 to 5 times a day and fruit: 1 cup or 1 fruit 3 to 5 times a day.
I think what has happened is we are either not following the program right or for the ones that don’t want to admit it (LOL) eating too much of everything.
I am starting to do a list of foods and their alkaline/acid levels as well as a G-I index to follow with low G-I foods only. I think if we stick with the proportions that Dr D says to have but make sure we are having the right portions, 1 acid food to 4 alkaline foods we will all get better. Would you like me to paste up the lists of foods when I am finished them with more information? I believe we need to have a balance between acid/alkaline and Low G-I foods while sticking with our eat right for your type program.
Tracy T
Posted by: debs, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 10:00am; Reply: 65
yes please Tracey.if i get time i'll try & do the non secretor for you when you've done it if thats what people want?
Posted by: TT (Guest), Saturday, November 19, 2005, 1:08pm; Reply: 66
Ok what I will do is type up the food items and info I have got time to do now. Basic daily food plans will have to be up to the individual for now, maybe everyone that wants to participate in this idea can add food plans. I haven't got time at the moment to plan for each blood type group but most of the foods are on the lists so people can just check their type. You need to follow the eat right for your type plan 100%, no avoids if you can help it, once you start to get better then you can add a avoid if you want to.

One thing we need to understand is that when we give our bodies the right environment to live in, it will heal itself. I don’t know how long this will take to work, but I truly believe it will heal any sickness. We have to except that our health is our own responsibility and no one but our own choices can get us well. If everyone who participates gives some input that will be great. We are all learning. I will post more information as I have time for.

First things first, here is a quick theory to get you going, I will explain my belief’s latter and why we need to eat like this.

Before you start this, look at you tongue and eyes, this is how I am seeing how I am going. My eyes have a lot of grey in them, they are meant to be blue, I noticed they are becoming less grey, my tongue was very white and furry, I have noticed a difference.

You must drink eight glasses of water per day, preferably 2 glasses upon waking.
Don’t eat any starch foods with proteins.
Chew your food very well.
Start with 20% acid food to 80% alkaline foods; that are low G.I. foods. If you eat 1 acid food have 4 alkaline foods with it (if it is winter where you are have a little more acid foods). For snacks have alkaline foods, don’t go hungry.
Make sure you have a digestive enzyme tablet with your main meal.
Eat a wide variety of foods, be patient, changes only happen at your body’s organic pace.
Don’t drink ½ hour before or after food (This is a must), Only have a sip of water to take enzyme. Get all the rest you need. If your Job is hard eat a bit more Protein foods. Follow the portion sizes of ERFYT.

Have a Probotic everyday, I have inner health: http://www.innerhealth.com.au I can’t find a probotic without avoids here, I can’t get Dr D’s supplements. You also need an anti fungi supplement; I use High Strength Olive Leaf Extract 3 x 5 mls a day. Website: http://www.olea.com.au , Also Kelp ( I have a tablet form, can't stand the taste), a B-Complex as well as the digestive enzyme. I’m also having 2 bottles of Unique water a day Website: http://www.uniquewater.com.au , maybe supplement with magnesium for that.

Ok thats for starters. I will post the list below. will get back to you with more info soon.
Tracy T

P.s, i also take Oxy Rich, 2 x 5mls per day, to help put oxygen back in my blood, helps with brain fog. (don't know what Dr D has for that if you can get it.) Website : http://www.oxyrich.info
Posted by: TT (Guest), Saturday, November 19, 2005, 1:10pm; Reply: 67
The Glycemic Index:

(S) = These foods may be high in sugar. If combined with fat, the glycemic response will be slower, a fat storing response will occur, and the impact on blood sugar will be the same eventually.

(F) = These foods may have excessive saturated fat. This will cause lipoprotienlipase  (LPL), to be secreted, which will promote fat storage.

(Sa) These foods may have too much salt. Excess salt reduces calcium absorption; causes water weight gain; raises GI

Foods with 0 G.I.:
Cream-plain (no sugar) (F) – Cheese (F) – Sour cream (F) – Butter (F) – Olive Oil & All Oils (F) – Essential fatty acids (oils of flax/linseed ect) – Cheese (F) block no added carbo’s – Fish & Shellfish – Cottage Cheese – Fresh meats – Poultry – Eggs – Herbal teas no sugar/honey – Apple cider Vinegar (in water) – Almonds – Brazil nuts – Hazelnuts – Macadamia nuts – Pecans – Walnuts – Jerusalem Artichokes – Avocado – Bok Choy – Broccoli – Cabbage – Capsicum – Cauliflower – Celery – Cucumber – Leafy Greens (lettuce, Silverbeet ect) – Runner beans (green) – Squash

Foods with 0-30 G.I.
Fructose/fruit sugar – Honey (yellow box Australian) – Barley, pearl – Tortilla, whole wheat – Split pea/soy pasta, gluten free – Chickpea, hummus dip – Soya beans – Brown beans – Chick peas – Lentils – Kidney beans – Milk, full fat – Feta – Milk, skimmed – Soy milk, full fat calciforte – Salami (F) – Sausages (F) – Tofu & Tempeh – Dark Chocolate, 70% cocoa (S) – Seed/nut Butters, no added sugar – Marmalade, sugar free – Dandelion root coffee, milk no sugar – Lemon juice in water – Tea, milk no sugar – Diet soft drinks, no caffeine – Cashew nuts – Peanuts – Lemon – Cherries, raw – Limes – Grapefruit – prunes – Asparagus – Zucchini – Tomato, fresh

Foods with 31-42 G.I.
Whole grain rye bread – Chapatti, barley flour (average) – Pumpernickel bread – Rye, Whole kernel cooked – White rice – Wheat, whole kernels, cooked – Quinoa – Mung bean noodles, average – Vermicelli, white, boiled – Fettuccini, egg – Wholegrain noodles – All bran – Rice bran – Muesli, wholegrain, (no sugar, soaked, eaten cold with milk) – Butter beans – Haricot beans – split yellow peas, boiled – black-eyed beans – Mung beans – Yoghurt, average, no sugar – Ice cream, 16% fat (S) (F) – Soy Milk, reduced fat light – Soy Milk, full fat original – Choc hazelnut spread (S) – Pizza, cheese/meat (F) –Fish fingers (F) (SA) – Cocoa, milk no sugar – Apricot, raw – Apple, whole, raw – Pear – Plum – Apple juice – Strawberries & most berries – Grapefruit juice sweetened – Orange, average – Home made soups/sauces, no added sugar & low G.I. Foods – Yams, peeled, boiled – Sweet corn, honey & pearl – Tomato Juice, canned no sugar – Potato, white Romanian

Foods with 43 – 55 G.I
Lactose – Wholegrain breads, heavy – Chapatti, wheat and Dahl, average – Sweet corn cob – Wheat, cracked, bulghur – Wheat, durum cooked – Buckwheat – Tortilla, corn – brown rice, long grain – Cake, plain sponge – Oat cakes, no sugar – Malt meal wafer cookies, plain – Tortellini, cheese – Linguine, thick durum wheat – Macaroni, plain – Instant, 2 minute noodles – White spaghetti – Pasta maize starch, gluten free – Oat porridge, wholegrain – Barley flake porridge, Oat bran – Pinto beans – baked beans – Lentils & brown rice – Chocolate milk – Pie, beef mince (F) – Chocolate milk – Potato chips, plain salted – Chicken nuggets – Lemon & barley water with honey – Peaches, raw – grapes, non sweet – Orange juice – Kiwifruit, mango raw, Banana, raw, over ripe – Custard apple – Sweet potato – Cassava – Peas, frozen, boiled – Carrot, raw – Peas, green, fresh – Sweet corn, average – Taro.

I didn't add the higher foods, You need to eat low G.I foods only until you are better.
Posted by: TT (Guest), Saturday, November 19, 2005, 1:12pm; Reply: 68
Alkaline/Acid foods

Highest to lowest alkaline forming foods are:

Lemons (Excellent for emergency support for cold, coughs, sore throats, heartburn & gastro upsets. Quick alkalizer! 1 teaspoon fresh juice in 4 oz water) – Watermelons (Super alkalising food) – Agar Agar (Substitute for gelatine, more nourishing) – Cantaloupe – Cayenne (Stimulating, non-irritating body healer) – Dried dates & Figs – Kelp, Karengo – Kudzu root – Limes – Mango – Melons – Papaya – Parsley  (Purifies Kidneys) – Seedless grapes; sweet – Watercress – Seaweeds

Asparagus (Powerful acid reducer detoxing to produce acid urine temporarily… causing alkalinity for the long term)  – Endive – Kiwifruit – Fruit Juices (Natural sugars give alkalinity. Added sugar causes juice to become acid-forming) – Grapes, sweet – Passionfruit – Pears, sweet – Pineapple – raisins – Umeboshi plum – Vegetable juices (Depends on veggie’s content & sweetness) – Apples, sweet – Apricots – Alfalfa sprouts (Enzyme rich, superior digestibility) – Arrowroot flour (high calcium content, cornflour substitute) – Avocados – Bananas, ripe – Berries – Carrots – Celery – Currants – Dates & Figs, fresh – Garlic (Elevates acid foods in higher alkaline direction) – Gooseberry – grapes, less sweet – Grapefruit – Guavas – Herbs, leafy green – Nectarine – Peaches, sweet – Pears, less sweet – Peas – fresh, sweet – Persimmon – Pumpkin, sweet -  Sea Salt, vegetable (vegetable content raises alkalinity) – Spinach – Apples, sour – Bamboo shoots – Beans, fresh green – Beets – Bell pepper – Broccoli – Cabbage; cauli – Carob (Substitute for cocoa; mineral rich) – Daikon – Ginger, fresh – Grapes, sour – Kale – Lettuce, pale green – Oranges – Parsnips – Peaches, less sweet – Peas, less sweet – Potatoes & Skin – Pumpkin, less sweet – Raspberry – Sapote – Strawberry – Squash – Sweet corn, fresh – Tamari – Turnip – Vinegar, apple cider

Almonds (soak for 12 hours, peel to eat) – Artichokes, Jerusalem – Barley malt, sweetener, Bronner – Brown rice syrup – Brussels Sprouts – Cherries – Cucumbers – Eggplant – Honey, raw – leeks – Miso – Mushrooms – Okra – Olives ripe (sun dried, tree ripened otherwise acid food) – Onions – Pickles, home made – Radish – Sea salt – Spices – Taro – Tomatoes, sweet – Vinegar, sweet brown rice – Water Chestnuts – Amaranth – artichoke, globe – Chestnuts, dry roasted – Egg yolks, soft cooked – Essene Bread – Goats milk & whey, raw – Horseradish – mayonnaise, home made – Millet – olive oil – Quinoa – Rhubarb – Sesame seeds, whole – Soy beans, dry – Soy cheese – Soy milk – Sprouted grains – Temphe – Tofu – tomatoes, less sweet – Yeast, nutritional flakes –Stevia.

Neutral Foods
Butter, fresh unsalted – Cream, fresh & raw – Milk, raw cows (high mucous production) Oils (except olive) – Whey, cow’s – Yoghurt, plain

Lowest to highest Acid forming Foods are:

Blueberries – Brazil nuts – Butter, salted – Cheeses, mild & crumbly – Crackers, unrefined rye – Dried beans, mung, adzuki, pinto, kidney, garbanzo, (when sprouted dry beans rate medium alkalinity) – Egg whites – Goats milk, homogenised – Olives, pickled – pecans – plums – Prunes – Spelt – Barley malt syrup – barley – bran – cashews – cereals, unrefined with honey fruit or maple syrup – Cornmeal – Cranberries – fructose – honey, pasteurised – lentils – macadamias – maple syrup, unprocessed – Milk, homogenized & most processed dairy products – Molasses, unsulphered organic (full of iron) – Nutmeg – Mustard – Pistachios – Popcorn & butter, plain – Rice or wheat crackers, unrefined – Rye – grain – Ryebread, organic sprouted – Seeds, pumpkin & sunflower – walnuts

Bananas,Green – Buckwheat – cheeses, sharp & tasty – Corn & rice Breads – Egg, whole (cooked hard) – Ketchup – Mayonnaise – Oats – Pastry, whole grain – Pastry, wholegrain & honey – Peanuts – Potatoes, with no skin – Popcorn, with salt & butter – Rice, basmati – Rice Brown – Soy sauce, commercial – Tapioca – wheat bread, sprouted organic – Cigarette tobacco, roll your own – Cream of wheat, Unrefined – Fish – Fruit Juices with sugar – Maple syrup, processed – Molasses, sulphured – Pickles, commercial – Breads (refined) of corn, oats, rice & rye – Cereals (refined) eg wheatbix, corn flakes – shellfish – wheat germ – Whole wheat foods (unrefined wheat is more alkaline) – Wine – Yoghurt, sweetened

Beer – brown sugar – Chicken – Deer – Chocolate – Coffee – Custard with white sugar – jams – Jellies – liquor – Pasta, white – Rabbit – Semolina – Table salt, refined & iodised – Tea, black – Turkey – Wheat bread – White rice – White Vinegar, processed – Beef – Carbonated Soft drinks & fizzy drinks – Cigarettes, tailor made – Drugs – Flour, white wheat – Goat – lamb – Pastries & Cakes from white flour – Pork – Sugar white –
Artificial sweeteners

Good luck who ever wants to try it with me, let us know how you go.
I will post more info and hints soon

Tracy T.
Posted by: Laura P, Saturday, November 19, 2005, 1:17pm; Reply: 69
Wait I'm confused, which are alkaline which are acid, I'm really confused about this, I see the theory and think it has alot of merit but am confused when you actually put it into action, could you provide an example?
Posted by: TT (Guest), Sunday, November 20, 2005, 2:51am; Reply: 70
Ok,
Highest to lowest alkaline forming foods are lemons to Yeast, nutritional flakes (not sure how strong of a alkaline food stevia is, I do know it is alkaline though).
All foods in the Highest to lowest alkaline forming foods should take up 80% of your diet (Till you are better, will get to that latter).
Lemons being the highest alkaline to Yeast, nutritional flakes being the weakest alkaline foods, eat more of the foods closest to lemons, check what the beneficial foods are for your blood type, this will help make wise choices.

I made a type error in the acid foods, Bananas – Green should be Bananas, Green (don’t eat them if they are green or have green tips need them to be yellow with specks).

With the Lowest to highest Acid forming Foods are, the lowest acid food is Blueberries and the highest is artificial sweeteners. This should be no more then 20% of your diet. Stick closer to the blueberry side. And stay away from sugar totally!

For instance if I was going to have steak for dinner I wouldn’t have more then 150 grams of meat, (acid) I would then fill the rest of the plate up with alkaline vegetables and salads, but because I am going to have steak I wouldn’t have sweet potatoes with it, will explain more on the protein and starch latter.
If I want something sweet I would have a large bowl of Quinoa (Alkaline - cooked with a bit of vanilla), with pure maple syrup (acid) and soy milk (alkaline).
Just make sure you don’t allow yourself to go hungry, if you do it is so easy not to eat the right combination. But also make sure the foods you eat are low G-I foods. I hope this helps till I can get some more info typed up.
But I do stress the importance of 80% alkaline/20% acid, low G-I and stick 100% to eat right for your type, I know it is difficult to work out at the start, but I believe it is worth it.
Today I’m even feeling better then yesterday, my skin is healing perfectly, my brain is less foggy, (I can read and understand everything again without reading things ten times) and I have the feeling that I am really recovering. I need to do more studies on how long it takes for the blood to renew itself, I read it in one of my books a while ago, ( I think it is 3 months) just can’t remember which book it was in, but I believe the turn over rate will be how long it takes to fully recover (live a normal life again that is), I do know that for the entire body, organs, skin ect the turn over rate is two years all up, so look forward to looking a lot younger within two years.
Tracy T
Posted by: Laura P, Sunday, November 20, 2005, 7:09pm; Reply: 71
Tracy, could you post a sample of your daily menu as an example?  
Posted by: TT (Guest), Monday, November 21, 2005, 2:38am; Reply: 72
Ok, will try and get some more info for you tonight to put up here.

A plan for a type o would be (not perfect but we can all put input up here i guess)

I know that everyone says we should have meat for breakfast, I’m not doing that at the moment, but you can if you want to but still I serve acid to 4 serves alkaline.

Breakfast:
Quinoa with maple syrup (I got rice syrup today so I will use that now) soymilk. Or I will have two eggs boiled cut up with salad.

Snack: fruit, apple, banana ect, anything quick for me.

Some days I have dinner at lunch time due to work.

Dinner:
250 grams of beneficial meat, fill the rest of the plate with vegetable. I love broccoli so I have a full flower of it, any other vegetables as well, no potatoes. if you want potato eat it for a snack or anytime you are not eating meat.
Or
250 grams of beneficial meat, cooked and sliced thinly with heaps of salad, cos lettuce, tomatoes, onion, capsicum, spinach leaves, ECT. I try to keep it all green and throw a hand full of tomatoes and peel a carrot in it as well. I dress it with olive oil, sea salt, garlic, oregano and lemon juice (fresh lemon).

Snack fruit again (got some essene bread today so I plan on having that with almond butter as a snack, both are alkaline)

Lunch
A little bit of chicken, lamb or beef in a big bowl of salad.

Keep salad made up in your fridge with out the dressing, this helps.

If you feel that your not getting enough acid have a small handful of walnuts with some fruit. Last night after I got home from church I had mango with banana, cut up in a bowl with a sprinkle of walnuts.

Once again make sure you eat enough, your not on a weight loss diet, I would call it a acid loss diet.

Make sure you have the probotic and the anti fungi supplements you have, need to kill the little critters while you are getting better.

I am feeling like I am just about better. No more ping-pong balls bouncing in my head, this is terrific. As you are getting better if you feel that feeling coming on again eat a banana, that’s what I have been doing and it works. Just listen to your body it will tell you when it needs more acid.
Posted by: Laura P, Monday, November 21, 2005, 2:55am; Reply: 73
You know what is strange is whenever I go very low carb (no fruit/nuts) I always crave bananas and I have been lately.  When I was on atkins I never craved any fruit except for bananas.

Do you think it is ok to combine fruit with other things?  Do you always have a starch meal?  sorry for all of the questions it is just that I feel you have really hit on something, at least in my case
Posted by: TT (Guest), Monday, November 21, 2005, 9:10am; Reply: 74
Listen to your body, if it wants a banana give it one.

Yep it is ok to combine everything except meat with potato. But your a A so you shouldn't have a problem with that.

I just ordered myself a BioAlkalizer 2000, just incase anyone else is interested here is the website.

http://www.bionatural.com.au/?staticID=APPWATER0390002

I should get mine by friday. I thought the water i am buying will get to expensive over time and i never want to get this sick again. I'm going to drink and eat myself healthy.
Tracy T
Posted by: Laura P, Monday, November 21, 2005, 10:11pm; Reply: 75
is it all starch or just potatos?  beans?  grains?  can these things be combined with eggs or dairy, just not meat?
Posted by: Lola, Monday, November 21, 2005, 11:04pm; Reply: 76
perhaps you are low in potassium Laura.......or magnesium.....
check that out first......might be the reason for the banana craving.
Posted by: Laura P, Monday, November 21, 2005, 11:13pm; Reply: 77
I was wondering that as well Lola, especially since I have been having lots of diarrhea lately, what other foods are high in these minerals- celery I know, another thing I've been craving
Posted by: Don, Monday, November 21, 2005, 11:24pm; Reply: 78
With your digestive system problems are you really absorbing enough nutrients, particularly in the small amounts typically found in foods, to help you recover?
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 12:11am; Reply: 79
no probably not but I can't handle large amounts of supplements, I just try to make everything as easily digestable as possible
Posted by: TT (Guest), Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 10:40am; Reply: 80
Laura P-lkpetrolino: so far I have had no probs with any starches except for potatoes.
I have noticed that this diet I have suggested is the same as the eat right for your type diet. Dr D took alkalinity into consideration. I just wasn't following the program right. I haven't got time tonight to add more info so i will add what i ate today.

Report on how I’m doing. I have had no indigestion now for 5 days, not bad since I have suffered every day since I will 16, tomorrow I am 34. 18 years of suffering. Today my head has been 80% clear, maybe 90%. I haven't had the ping pong balls going on in my head; a little bit of blurred vision, doesn't last for long and a little lost of concentration now and then. But over all with all the symptoms I was having I believe I'm 95% better. My skin has all cleared up just a little dry. I am totally totalllllly amazed. Here is what I ate today.

Breakfast:
Quinoa with maple syrup, soymilk, mango, grapes, apple. (A big bowl I was hungry)

Snack: Apple

Lunch: Mashed sweet potatoes, Steamed broccoli in a bowl with a cooked topping of onion, capsicum, spinach, garlic, ginger, olive oil and sea salt.

Snack: Apple

Dinner: Beef cut thinly, Salad (Cos lettuce, capsicum, onion, tomatoes, spinach, cooked broccoli, garlic, sea salt, olive oil, lemon juice). All tossed together.

Haven’t had a snack tonight, I haven’t been hungry. Tomorrow I am going to try a bit of meat extra with lunch; I will see how I go with that.

I must admit trying to have 5 pieces of fruit and 3 cups of vegetables is hard; (That’s what my plan was) I got 3 ½ fruit and 2 cups of vegetables in. Even though I am big, it is still hard. I’m not missing sweets at all, which is a good thing. I am finding that vegetables are pretty sweet; when you are loaded up with sugar as I was you don’t taste it as being sweet. I have had all my supplements and 2 ½ litres of water. I forgot to weigh myself today, have to remember tomorrow.
Tracy T
Posted by: Laura P, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 2:03pm; Reply: 81
I have no problem with veggies I eat those with a vengence, it is a bit confusing because when I look up the acid/alkaline charts on the internet they all say slightly different things

it is really helpful to me you posting your menus, I will do the same once I figure out exactly what i'm going to do
Posted by: Don, Tuesday, November 22, 2005, 4:18pm; Reply: 82
Tracy, I find it hard to believe that you felt good on so little protein in your diet. You didn't have any animal protein until dinner. There is no way I could survive on that.

Quoted from Tracy T
I have noticed that this diet I have suggested is the same as the eat right for your type diet. Dr D took alkalinity into consideration. I just wasn't following the program right.


I had been following what you had been writing and the fact that the BTD already recommended the correct diet was my conclusion from the start. It made me wonder how you were eating prior to this. Good luck with the new changes in your diet. It certainly sounds like you are seeing great improvements. You might find that you will do even better with more protein, some at both breakfast and lunch.
Posted by: marciamyrs (Guest), Saturday, December 10, 2005, 2:27pm; Reply: 83
Tracy thank you for all of the helpful information.

As an A+ I can't eat everything that you eat but I get the general idea follow my BTD.  

I had given up and started eating what my body craved (a bag of Snyder's Potato chips for breakfast). But my head is hurting now salt, and not allowed to have potatos.  

thanks for your question sam and your comments kyosha it makes me feel not so alone.
Posted by: Red Meat Eater, Thursday, January 12, 2006, 12:04am; Reply: 84
What did I eat today?  I ate my words.  I'd told friends that I was candida free now and was managing to eat small amounts of fruit again.  But I was wrong.   It's flared up again.  
Posted by: Elizabeth, Thursday, January 12, 2006, 2:32pm; Reply: 85
Yes, I know that feeling.  But it means that the balance IS tipping in your favor, and it will probably take much less long to get back to where you want to be.  I went through that last week, am not completely back, but getting there.  I ate some spelt muffins and gluten free cookies (not a lot, just 2 of each and not at one time), but with the fruit and starchy vegetables I had added, it was too much.  More as it happens...
Posted by: Red Meat Eater, Thursday, January 12, 2006, 10:14pm; Reply: 86
Quoted from CarolineC
Ohhh, I am confused. Do you want to know what we have eaten today? OH finally another constipation person!!! Iam so sorry for you BUT so happy I am NOT alone! I thinkI have become known as the  "Rabbit pellet" queen!.
John M. on the other  Candida site (I think), yes it long but  WOW so much info....but anywoo.. he has a recipe  for a goo....yep its a goo for the constipation.
OK, you take 2 TBS of  Ground flaxseed  put it in a glas of warm water, let it sit all night, in the morning you drink this disgusting  stuff ( boy, make this sound awful..but..) and bingo.. you go. Now I understand why..everything inside runs for its constipated life!!  Sorry John, it  hard going down.

Ok.. today I had.

Morning: warm water with some lemon, finished up some  fish and greens (with Candida , you not suppose to eat things left in frig over 24 hours), and ALL my morning supplements

Mid morning: few almonds (have another sore on tongue , so not happy eating probably too much lemon)

Lunch: BIG salad with lettuce, snap peas, celery, little garlic, grilled beef, 2 tbs fresh ground flax seeds and 2 tbs  flax seed oil and tiny bit lemon as dressing. Lunch supplements

dinner hasn't happened: but it will be a vegetable soup. Will take the nighttime  stuff for the candida after dinner.

If I am craving or hungry later, I will have some organic almond butter (trying to continue losing  weight from this candida diet)

Caroline








Just read that you have lost 150 lbs.  You are AMAZING.  You have lost more than my entire body weight.  Good for you!!!
Posted by: Red Meat Eater, Thursday, January 12, 2006, 10:15pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from Elizabeth
Yes, I know that feeling.  But it means that the balance IS tipping in your favor, and it will probably take much less long to get back to where you want to be.  I went through that last week, am not completely back, but getting there.  I ate some spelt muffins and gluten free cookies (not a lot, just 2 of each and not at one time), but with the fruit and starchy vegetables I had added, it was too much.  More as it happens...


Hey Elizabeth, so do you find that as you get better you can cheat a little bit occasionally?  I think my problem was that I cheated too much in a short period of time.  It's a sad state of affairs when eating fruit or spelt muffins is cheating though, huh?

Posted by: Elizabeth, Friday, January 13, 2006, 2:27pm; Reply: 88
Yes, I think in the end you can get back to a "normal" (BTD) diet, fruit and all, but that too much "cheating" in a short time does set one back.  The goal is to give the good-guy flora a chance to win down there, and too many carbs, even good ones, gives the bad guys literally a free lunch.  At least we are learning to APPRECIATE those fruits and vegetables!  Two sunny days in a row here, and I am counting all my blessings.   Good luck to all who are working on this together!
Posted by: debs, Friday, January 13, 2006, 4:48pm; Reply: 89
i found another tip on fighting candida today.havent tried it yet but i will do when i get hold of some.however it appears to only be a remedy for women.sorry boys.
well you get one unpeeled clove of garlic & place it up your  :B unmentionable :B & leave it up there overnight.if the candida is severe you can use a cut in half clove of garlic. if the candida is intermediate then use anunpeeled clove of garlic with a few slits in.Do not use garlic in a healthy   :B ahem! :B as it will burn.
hope this helps someone.
Debs
Posted by: Elizabeth, Friday, January 13, 2006, 4:53pm; Reply: 90
Someone also suggested an old-fashioned remedy of boric acid capsules (one would get from a physician open to older ideas) for same location problem.  Not good for gut candida problems, however.  
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 14, 2006, 1:05am; Reply: 91
debs,
does that work for candida as well as a yeast infection?

I thought the tip about the garlic was mainly for yeast infection......
Posted by: Red Meat Eater, Saturday, January 14, 2006, 3:04am; Reply: 92
my candida is systemic.  I don't think that putting a clove of garlic inside my genitalia is gonna help me.  But you never know, I guess.  Also the unpeeled garlic has hard, sharp edges.  Sounds painful!
Posted by: debs, Saturday, January 14, 2006, 11:31am; Reply: 93
yes it will help kill yeast.Even if its systemic it must help to kill it from 'every direction' after all any thing you take ie ingest the candida get used to so you have to change it regularly so attack the critters from all angles.personally i wouldnt have thought the garlic any more uncomfortable than a tampon.anyway just give it a try & let us know how you get on.
Posted by: 1198 (Guest), Monday, February 13, 2006, 5:27pm; Reply: 94
i wouldnt have thought the garlic any more uncomfortable than a tampon.

Tampons don't sting!  :o
Posted by: 903 (Guest), Monday, February 13, 2006, 11:35pm; Reply: 95
Well, I will chime in here and say that I have tried this, for three nights in a row. I sewed a thread through the clove, put many shallow slits in it and no problem... until day three when the string pulled out but not the clove.   :o Ahem.  :B After three hours of bearing down and trying not to panic, it came out. Lesson learned, don't insert very far at all!! And perhaps the smaller the clove, the easier it would be to remove. It did help the rampant infection and while I definitely am still dealing with Candida, at least it doesn't burn to pee!!!  ;D I will muster my courage and do this periodically since I have noted the flare ups are related to my hormonal changes.
Posted by: Red Meat Eater, Monday, February 13, 2006, 11:39pm; Reply: 96
Quoted from JK
Well, I will chime in here and say that I have tried this, for three nights in a row. I sewed a thread through the clove, put many shallow slits in it and no problem... until day three when the string pulled out but not the clove.   :o Ahem.  :.


OMG.,  That must have been really scary!!
Posted by: jillthepilllady, Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 7:42pm; Reply: 97
Does anyone know if a Garlic oil capsule type pill would work?  That would dissolve and open.  I have some good quality garlic oil and pills that I could try.  I get yeast infections and have used Boiron's Yeastaway.  They seem to do the trick but I'm thinking of taking some Garlic pills as well in case it's not just vaginal.  

Sometimes I swear I get my yeast infections from my husband who is far from BT compliant.  I can be fine one minute and then "poof-not fine" the next.  This has only been brought up once before then dropped but I've often wondered how his eating avoids affects me.
Posted by: Elizabeth, Tuesday, February 14, 2006, 7:53pm; Reply: 98
It is certainly the case that partners can reinfect each other, BTD or not.  Unfortunately.
Posted by: Sara C, Monday, March 13, 2006, 12:27am; Reply: 99
I've tried Xylitol & it has a great taste but I probably used too much (a teaspoon at a time) & it's thrown me into a healing crisis - congested & inflamed sinuses, sore throat, etc. I've stopped taking it for now but once I start feeling better I'd like to use it again, albeit in very small quantities.  While looking online for a gum made with it I discovered that the Xylitol I bought from Whole Foods is made from corn, not birch trees as I had thought. This is not mentioned anywhere on the cannister. (Xyli Pure Xylitol by Jarrow Formulas) Would this make it an avoid for O's & thus be contributing to my dramatic reaction?
Posted by: Lola, Monday, March 13, 2006, 3:12am; Reply: 100
I believe the source of Xylitol is not an issue, due to the way it has been processed....
much like veg glycerine........
Posted by: Sara C, Saturday, March 18, 2006, 1:13am; Reply: 101
Thanks to all of you for your informative posts. There's so much useful information here & it's very comforting to know I have this wonderful resource.

Tracy T: I found your information on trying to keep the body more alkaline facinating. I realised that I, too, had not been following the frequency suggestions, even during my times of best compliance. In going back to recheck & relearn each category I was quite surprised to notice the vegetable recommendations for O's were for times per WEEK.  Is that accurate? I know for sure the fruit one was in error & I guess I had assumed that the veggie was, too. If it is true, I've definitely been eating way too many neutral veggies.
Posted by: Sara C, Saturday, March 18, 2006, 1:15am; Reply: 102
What is clove fruit?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, March 18, 2006, 1:18am; Reply: 103
the frequency values of veggies as well as fruit are to be read per day!!!


clove fruit is listed as an herb in the Daily Herbs for O's....same thing as clove.
Posted by: Sara C, Saturday, March 18, 2006, 9:40pm; Reply: 104
Thank goodness! That's what I've always thought but when Tracy T.'s writings caused me to go back & recheck all of the quantity suggestions, that caught my eye. I had changed the fruit one in the book but for some reason never changed the vegetable one.

I'm really starting to see good changes from eating the tier 2 foods. I've lost 5 pounds in 2 weeks, the cravings are gone, I'm not hungry between meals & the skin on my legs is starting to be less dry. I still have a sinus headache with continued drainage but I feel I'm making good progress.

I'd like to post a BIG thank you to whoever came up with that spit test! That image of the spit with growing tendrils is vividly implanted in my mind now. Whenever I look at a food I shouldn't have the image pops into my mind & I think to myself, "Not a chance......you little monster. I'm through feeding you!" Hopefull my stubborn streak will win the war against those little beasties!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, March 18, 2006, 9:52pm; Reply: 105
Sara that s the spirit!!! )
Posted by: Sara C, Sunday, March 19, 2006, 4:37pm; Reply: 106
Someone on these boards (can't remember who, but thank you!) recommended that we eat a cabbage leaf with every meal b/c it's our good bacteria's favorite food. It seems to make good sense but instead of just eating a plain leaf, I've been making myself a very finely chopped cabbage "slaw" using a blueberry dressing. I think it's very tasty. If you'd like to try it        - for the dressing I blend a 1/2 cup of blueberries, 1 heaping T. of lecithin, juice of 1/2 lemon, 1 T. ground flax seed & 1 T. of veg gly. Mix it with enough chopped cabbage for your 3 daily servings.

Once we can have sweeter fruit, the pineapple would be very good in it, too, & then the veg gly probably wouldn't be needed.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Sunday, March 19, 2006, 5:15pm; Reply: 107
Quoted Text
cabbage leaf
becomes a "Neutral Infrequent" in some of the Health Series books.
Posted by: 794 (Guest), Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 10:38pm; Reply: 108
I've found that candida is caused by too much sugar.  Cut the sugar and grains for 4-7 days and see what happens.  Take Probiotics and eat fresh fruits and vegetables and meat for your type instead of sugar for those days and see how you feel.  Calcium supplements also helped me, Caltrate helps the best CAL:MAG.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 10:41pm; Reply: 109
Quoted from saverain
I've found that candida is caused by too much sugar.  Cut the sugar and grains for 4-7 days and see what happens.  Take Probiotics and eat fresh fruits and vegetables and meat for your type instead of sugar for those days and see how you feel.  Calcium supplements also helped me, Caltrate helps the best CAL:MAG.


I wish it was that easy.  My candida has been deep seated for a long time, and I think it's going to take months, not weeks to totally eradicate it.  For the most part though, I have very few of the typical candida symptoms.
Posted by: Elizabeth, Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 11:45pm; Reply: 110
Alas, one who never eats sugar or flour can also have candida....There are many possible causes, some more deep seated than others: low thyroid, being overweight (if female, resulting from too much estrogen for you, not absolutely), losing weight (if female--estrogen is stored in fat, released as you lose weight, too much progesterone (if you take it as a supplement), low stomach acid (causes include age, can result from severe gastritis), for example.  One needs to try to see what is causing it in each case.  
Posted by: 15238 (Guest), Saturday, July 16, 2011, 10:12am; Reply: 111
Well i am not suffering from any constipation so i eat food with my choice...

i eat today
Fried hash browns
French fries
Tortilla chips
Chocolate Fudge Cake
Rustic red kale and white bean soup
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 16, 2011, 4:35pm; Reply: 112
venetis, keep up the good work!!! ;D

which is your blood type?
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