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Posted by: Naturegyrll, Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 5:42pm
Hi all,

I've been dialing in my Swami and have slid down the rarity rung a bit more with today's realization that I have Non-Secretor status along with my AB blood type.

Any nuggets of wisdom out there as to where to begin?  Do I cut chicken cold-turkey HA!

It is all a bit overwhelming.  I'm having trouble getting enough Protein now, and so many things are avoids for me.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 5:46pm; Reply: 1
It's OK to make changes slowly. Remember that what you DO eat is as important as what you avoid. If you need to keep eating chicken a little longer while you figure out your new diet, that's probably better than "not getting enough protein" during the transition.

I've been cooking with a lot of turkey since starting the BTD, since I have a type B son in the house. I usually make a turkey half breast and a turkey leg when I used to make a whole chicken. I make a whole turkey once every month or two, and I save all the bones for making soup.
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Tuesday, January 21, 2014, 10:22pm; Reply: 2
Thanks!  I took this all on very fast (the past 2 months) so it is ALL new to me.  The description of a Nomad Non-Secretor are spot on for me.  

Allergies = CHECK
Stomach Issues = CHECK

No change from the Genotype book to the Swami except some items shifted columns on the Secretor step.

The good news is I didn't get used to one diet before having to change.

The bad news is my before diet was so half hazard (I THOUGHT I was eating mostly clean, LOL) that it is a pretty big change overall.

I'm being sensible at this stage.  I'm cycling through the products that I am too cheap to toss, and tossing others (artificial sweetener stuff).

I'm taking it all in stride.  So far, my stomach is completely messed up but I'm thinking that's just the change in diet and will pass (I hope).
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, January 22, 2014, 12:36am; Reply: 3
Quoted from Naturegyrll
Any nuggets of wisdom out there as to where to begin?  Do I cut chicken cold-turkey HA!

I cut the high lectin avoid foods (chicken, corn, buckwheat, and lima and kidney beans) cold-turkey.  This wasn't a budget hit as others in the house could finish what we had on hand.  This allowed me to start healing right away rather than continuing to ingest these damaging foods.

It may take a while for the gut to settle down and heal.  It should start getting better rather soon, but may take longer to heal completely due to needing to process out stored toxins that continue to stress it.

My diet was "good" food prior to BTD, but it was about 90% avoid foods, with much emphasis on chicken and corn.  Other avoids were too much red meat, potatoes and wheat.  Basically, I had to rewrite all of the recipes I used and meal plans, changing the ingredients I used and get used to working with the new foods and mixing flavors, etc...  It takes some time to do the mental shifts necessary, but it is SO worth it...
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Wednesday, January 22, 2014, 5:07am; Reply: 4
Thanks Joe,

I already cut out Cow Milk and Corn as well as most grains.  I’m relieved that sprouted wheat is neutral for me now PHEW!

What’s crazy is I haven’t had coffee in a week (and I am a coffee snob) because my stomach just can’t handle it right now.  Strange how I could drink tons of it before I ate better with no problem.  I do love coffee, however.

I still have beef & pork.  These will be really tough to cycle out, but I’ll get there.  There’s only so much Turkey I can eat.

One thing for sure, is that my cravings for sweets has declined dramatically.

Thanks for the advice.  
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 22, 2014, 6:01am; Reply: 5
great job!
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, January 22, 2014, 8:22pm; Reply: 6
complete of mine  Ng... I'd overcome pork as quick as possible and indeed come along with yummiciolous lamb instead...... ;) ;D...(goofy)(smarty)(whistle)(hehe)
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Thursday, January 23, 2014, 6:04am; Reply: 7
I do love lamb, but I don’t know if I can do 3 servings per week.  It is so rich!  LOL
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, January 23, 2014, 9:19am; Reply: 8
I think you can do it  ;D... CLA is a fine stuff in that meat :D... ;) ;D
Posted by: JJR, Friday, January 24, 2014, 9:24pm; Reply: 9
Time to add fish.  Mmmmmmmmmm...................  And eggs.   :)

Cutting out chicken was really really good for me.  I felt a lot less bloated and my arrhythmia lessened.  I think the bloating from my stomach was causing pressure on my chest from the lectins in chicken.  My stomach went flat in like 2 days.  I wasn't really overweight, and in fact I didn't need to lose weight per se.  But my body was happier without it.  The chiropractor I was going to at the time was always  pushing down on my stomach when he adjusted me.  That made me feel better, but I didn't have to do that any more after cutting out chicken.  
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:04pm; Reply: 10
That's pretty encouraging.  I AM overweight.  It will definitely be a process.  It is just so inconceivable since I have been working on losing weight and chicken (of course) has been a staple.

I love fish, so that's not a problem.  The problem is I love all those other things too.  But I am at least ramping them down.

Old mantra: Chicken, Beef, Pork...

My new mantra: Turkey, Lamb, & Fish.....
Posted by: Ligia, Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:34pm; Reply: 11
You have a good attitude.  That's worth 50% of following this diet!  The other 50% is the actual diet.  
Posted by: Averno, Saturday, January 25, 2014, 2:23am; Reply: 12
Quoted from Naturegyrll
  It will definitely be a process.  

Old mantra: Chicken, Beef, Pork...

My new mantra: Turkey, Lamb, & Fish.....

Well there you go...

And good to see another AB on the board with such enthusiasm.   :)

Posted by: JJR, Saturday, January 25, 2014, 5:26pm; Reply: 13
I'll just throw something else out at you.  Before I got health problems and started this diet, my diet was pretty lousy.  And one food group that I have so enjoyed and I know my body has is eating veggies.  I never used to like too many veggies.  But this diet opened my eyes to all the wonderful veggies out there.  A big part of lunch and dinner for me are veggies.

Whether it be boiled, sauteed, roasted or whatever.  Some of my staples are Peas, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, carrots, broccoli, potatoes, and some others. I have eaten a lot of salads.  I used to eat one every day but I've calmed down with that now.

There are others that aren't necessarily staples but are so good and I need to try to eat them more!!!  But they are harder to cook.  I eat a lot of frozen veggies because it's easy to boil them or roast them.  But rutabagas, parsnips, squash of all kinds, cut them up, roast them, sautee them, boil them, whatever.  There are lot of haven't tried too.  Or I've tried a little bit here and there.  Like kolrabi.  I think I spelled that wrong.  I know there is an h in there somewhere.  

Anyways....  The fiber helps my gut, the nutrients help my body and even though I never used to like the flavor, I've grown to love love love veggies.  Takes the emphasis off of having to have a huge portion of meat and grain if I eat more bulk of veggies.  Although it is less calories and makes it harder to keep weight on.  But I'm healthier for it.  (I'm underweight, which is why I mentioned calories.  I have to track my calories to make sure I'm eating enough).  

Anyways....  that was just something that was a change for me that I felt like sharing.  
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Sunday, January 26, 2014, 4:23am; Reply: 14
Most of my life, I ate junk.  I’ve been doing pretty good the past 2 years.  Lots of Fruits & Veggies.  I LOVE them roasted and here in California they are abundant all year round (no excuses).  The genotype diet was such an eye opener for me.  I had no idea that such research even existed until a friend told me to read the book in December.  For once, things started making sense to me.

But it’s hard to change a lifetime of bad habits all in one fell swoop.  I’ll keep introducing good stuff and limiting the bad stuff.  Maybe eventually, it will be second nature ;-)
Posted by: JJR, Monday, January 27, 2014, 8:21pm; Reply: 15
I'm sure you are doing just fine!!!  
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 1:36am; Reply: 16
I'm sure you will do well!
Can you share your age?  If you are young, you have fewer years of bad eating to overcome.

I first heard of the BTD around my 50th birthday. It seems most of us are in that age range here, but there have been a few teenagers join us, too.  I'm on "Route 66" & still learning.
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 4:09am; Reply: 17
I just turned 53.  I am overweight with related aches and pain; suffer allergies; and some digestive issues.  Basically I’m pretty healthy but I want to stay that way and correct these other issues (primarily lose weight).

Anywho, it’s a process.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 9:04am; Reply: 18
and please remember ;) :D...we nonnies don't need  that much of carbs at all ;) ;D....
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:15pm; Reply: 19
Yeah, that's what I'm striving for but one piece of fruit puts me way over my target.  Carbs are in EVERYTHING...sigh.
Posted by: Averno, Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 5:23pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Naturegyrll
Yeah, that's what I'm striving for but one piece of fruit puts me way over my target.  Carbs are in EVERYTHING...sigh.

I think Amazone  was referring to grains. Go easy on fruit because of the sugars, but eat lots of veggies. And your B-side needs a fair amount of protein, but nothing like the O's.

Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, February 13, 2014, 9:47am; Reply: 21
as Avernoshatzala told ya ;) ;D... but perhaps would you want to come along with enzymatic therapy you clear up your complete system, not only your pancreas..... :D and  yesssssssssss I need my lamb meat min. once  a week ;) ;D ...(drool)
Posted by: JJR, Monday, February 17, 2014, 9:11pm; Reply: 22
I don't go easy on fruits.  They keep me regular.  But I do lean towards the less sugary.  Like granny smith apples instead of a more sweet one.  Grapefruits.  But I do eat prunes and pineapple and a few other sweet ones.  Blueberries.    
Posted by: susanC, Saturday, February 22, 2014, 10:45pm; Reply: 23
Add tofu for another jolt of protein.  Lamb, turkey (ugh) and fish.  I have found weight gain to be an issue in the last 10 years or so (I'm now 67) after a lifetime of eating whatever I wanted and not gaining weight--so as others have indicated--we AB's really don't do well with a lot of grains and starchy carbs.  Small amounts of beneficial grains and fruits seem to work for me.

I agree--try to shed the pork as soon as possible--and, of course, chicken.  If you focus on all the beneficials on your list you will find so many more foods that you can eat.  The beneficial lists are so much longer than the avoid. ;)

It is great that you are getting onboard with the BTD/SWAMI at your young age.  AB/nonnie could potentially cause you problems down the road. Nipping it in the bud is the way to go.  So good for you.  
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Sunday, February 23, 2014, 3:58am; Reply: 24
LOL, my young age.

Well I guess it’s never too late.  Tofu is an avoid for me, however.

It’s pretty hard to kick the Chicken habit.  I don’t notice it making me feel bad but lord knows what its doing to my insides.  Baby steps ;-)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, February 23, 2014, 9:28am; Reply: 25
(hehe)(hehe)(hehe)(funny)no soy products for me either ;) ;D...(evil)(cool)
Posted by: Averno, Sunday, February 23, 2014, 1:33pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from JJR
I don't go easy on fruits.  They keep me regular.  But I do lean towards the less sugary.  Like granny smith apples instead of a more sweet one.  Grapefruits.  But I do eat prunes and pineapple and a few other sweet ones.  Blueberries.    

I agree with you here JJR, and I do eat a reasonable amount of fruit. It's just that some folks tend to reach for fruit too often thinking it's the best choice, when it really needs to be balanced within the entire dietary profile.

Posted by: Averno, Sunday, February 23, 2014, 1:43pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Amazone I.
(hehe)(hehe)(hehe)(funny)no soy products for me either ;) ;D...(evil)(cool)

I'm confused. Is this a personal preference, an A1 vs A2 differentiation, or something else? If A1 v A2, all the more reason to determine that parameter. Soy works really well for me, but admittedly there hasn't been a type O in my recent lineage (possibly never).

Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, February 23, 2014, 2:04pm; Reply: 28
Averno shatzala, as being  perhaps an A1B nonnie you might be prone merely to come along with your A-shadow... and mine might be merely the B-side;) ;D... I'm the true prototype of a fuzzy explomade ;) ...(scared)(funny)(shrug)(whistle) :K)
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Sunday, February 23, 2014, 7:25pm; Reply: 29
I wish I knew Averno.  It may have something to do with our specific SWAMI profiles, but it is clearly an avoid for me.  Although, the Soy protein (but not tofu) moved to neutral when I adjusted the Nonnie portion of the SWAMI.   That’s fortunate because Whey protein is still an avoid.
Posted by: JJR, Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 6:30pm; Reply: 30
Soy is just one of them foods.  I think people have a tenancy to over react to Dr. D's pro soy status.  Because some of us, after having been tested, show it might not be the best answer.  My son is an A and has allergies to it.  Both classic and gut.  I've got explorer issues and I don't detox estrogen well, so I'm better off not eating it regularly.  I haven't ate it at all for a long time.  I'm not against it.  I even like soy milk.  My wife drinks soy milk in her fru fru coffee drinks when she gets starbucks or that type of a thing.  Because she became sensitive to cow dairy.  

And then there is controversy about the quality of soy.  A known GM food.  

So.....  that's my 2 cents on soy.  I'm not saying don't eat it.  But I am saying it's not a silver bullet as some make it out to be for all A's and AB's.  And I would stick with high quality, organic stuff that hopefully isn't genetically modified.  
Posted by: JJR, Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 6:32pm; Reply: 31
In fact, something just dawned on me.  I wonder if that's why my wife has been having thyroid issues.  But I do know that her Mom and Grandma have and had thyroid issues, so it might not be the soy.  But it's something to consider.  
Posted by: Naturegyrll, Thursday, February 27, 2014, 1:56am; Reply: 32
I do wish that the coffee joints would stock Almond milk, but you’re right about people believing Soy as a silver bullet.

I’ve never really liked it so it’s not a problem to avoid.  However, meal replacements either give you soy or whey.  In those instances, soy is better for me (though whey seems to fill me up better).

Thankfully, I don’t rely on it often as I tend to just eat basic foods.  
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