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Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 1:01pm
Wow... I was so sure I had the genes of my father with diabetes..... yet I got the cancer gene
form mom also… the first in the family with breast...
caught early, but still==  I ignored it for 10 month and a year before that feeling a lump grow.

I felt a lump and wanted it removed last year.  doing a needle biopsy was against my 'wishes'...
.. I might have had issues with the original doctor... my fault...

And… I trusted a blood test that showed no cancer ‘yet’ (80% accurate..) so I felt safe enough, all the while feeling a lump getting bigger to over 1 inch.

10 month later I had my sis take my old films to her specialist.  This doctor looked at the
old films and she wanted MORE to look at/  I did them and the new tests revealed that I am still 'safe' as it is small, but is cancer...  

Surgery next week will be ok, but I am disappointed that she speaks of radiation... Could I have avoided that last year?  I will never know.  

I am totally fine with it all - as we ALL in the family have had cancer (from all sides) of one sort or another... and we ALL survived...


I am surveying the following WORDS...

When one is struggling with issues then maybe consider at the very least these words... Coined
by Carl Roger long ago:  
Quoted Text
Unconditional Positive Regard (for self or others)

and consider :
Quoted Text
The Essence of Grief (after heartfelt loss real or imagined, old or new)  
Quoted Text
What will you do with all that love?
Posted by: yaman, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 1:42pm; Reply: 1
I hope you'll get well soon Goldie :)
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 1:44pm; Reply: 2
Sorry to hear what you’ll be going through.  We’ll be here to listen.
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 1:49pm; Reply: 3
Here's wishing you a speedy recovery...
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 1:56pm; Reply: 4
Hey.. you all I am going to be just fine.. I have all I need and no concerns.. I will share ..

Please talk about the bottom words.. they are a revelation to me ..
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 2:05pm; Reply: 5
you will be fine. Post any Hospital wisdom when you can.   ;D
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 7:24pm; Reply: 6
Sending you love and healing wishes, Goldie. {{{{{hugs}}}}} You're absolutely WILL be fine~  :)  Keep us posted!  
Posted by: cajun, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 10:02pm; Reply: 7
I love your outlook, Goldie! You inspire me! ;)
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, September 8, 2013, 10:30pm; Reply: 8
All my experience said to me so far:

1) take your film always to a second expert: two heads 'see' more then one.. ONE sentence changed my outlook:  I need to see more.
2) the other is:  always keep on open mind be open to change. Change Happens.
Posted by: wanthanee, Monday, September 9, 2013, 12:16am; Reply: 9
((((hugs))))  :D
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:35am; Reply: 10
I am surveying the following WORDS...

When one is struggling with issues then maybe consider at the very least these words... Coined by Carl Roger long ago:  
Quoted Text
Unconditional Positive Regard (for self or others)

and consider :
The Essence of Grief (after heartfelt loss real or imagined, old or new)  
Question: What will you do with all that love?

Are these not important words? to me they gave me all the answers to anger, miscommunications, whatever... was this just me reacting to the words?    
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, September 9, 2013, 10:54am; Reply: 11
Goldie... take care about your descissions please... and implement Chaga or other healing mushrooms instead and or also some beautiful Salvestroles... (das Buch von L.Hirneise ist lesenswert: Chemoth. heilt Krebs und die Erde ist eine Scheibe*)
:K) from yours amiga Isa
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, September 9, 2013, 11:30am; Reply: 12
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 9, 2013, 3:48pm; Reply: 13
Isa Thanks ... Yes, I am not able to get messages here.. just email me.
as for the links.. I am looking at and reading.  

Had I had my mental capacity a year ago to 'think' I could have malignant cancer, then I would have had much more time.  Now I feel surgery is ok.  

I am wondering if the Cancer book by Dr D is Up to date?  I wonder, if there ought to be a update, discussion here.  There have been many discoveries recently, since it was printed, should it be a bible? or Swami? -- I updated Swami to include Cancer.. I will follow it.  

On the other hand, I do not partiqularly wish to have radiation, even if that saved my moms life...

Should I go to see Dr D. ?? Would Dr D have more info on future prevention in the 200 dollar book? or have any newer findings (from the older book) from any place? Monitors, You are welcome to answer here.

One more thing to remember; always take your test films and other test materials with you when being re-tested.  saves time to compare.    


Quoted Text
I still would like a philosophical discussion :  I believe that enormous sorrow / anger causes cancer 7 years later.  just my feeling.  

I like the words in the first post .. as they allow me to deal with all people that would aggrevate me to respond with 'Unconditional Positive Regard or self regard...  


Keep reading.. A different breast cancer expert in Germany had a discussion with me in which I mentioned that I have shoulder pain (from accidnt- I thought which has been difficult to treat... ) yet he thinks it could be referral lymph node pain from the cancer.  Interesting!!!   I will follow up by asking the surgeon - with a sonogram test to see why it has been so difficult to heal.


I was told that the cancer spot is about point 5 centimeter  ... IT seems I let it grow to be BIG in the last 10 month!  So when you examin your own body, cancer is less then a milimeter .... about a 16th of an inch..  Really small!   hard to 'feel' .  

--- By comparison the cyst that sent me to the doctor 10 month ago and I thought was important - and I felt by hand- became over an inch big. When I first felt the cyst, it was half on inch or 1 centimeter.. very deceiving.  I paid less attention thinking it was a cyst only!  
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, September 9, 2013, 3:57pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Goldie
I am wondering if the Cancer book by Dr D is Up to date?  I wonder, if there ought to be a update, discussion here.  There have been many discoveries recently, since it was printed, should it be a bible? or Swami? -- I updated Swami to include Cancer.. I will follow it.

I think following your updated SWAMI is the best course without going to see the good Dr. in person to get his recommendations...

I wouldn't hesitate to go see him if I received that diagnosis...  
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:05pm; Reply: 15
yeppers ABJoe is right here :D (smarty)(clap)(ok)(dance) there are also such who implement the *Budwig anticancer diet* :D.... can you have quark cheese with linseedoil??)........
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:24pm; Reply: 16
yes I can.. I just had some linseeds and avocado for lunch, yumm  
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:54pm; Reply: 17
Goldie, please go see Dr. D.  He can give you personal treatment protocols you won't find anywhere in books that will be specific to your treatment and recovery. A specific diet change that will insure greater success as you go through surgery/treatment.  You won't be sorry you did this!   Just having a bioimpedence test....finding out the integrity  of your cells....whether nutrients are getting past the cell wall....Honestly, there is no better person on this planet to contact right now than Dr. D.  Please call his office and make an appointment....explain that this is urgent... You will get an
appointment quickly!
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 9, 2013, 6:20pm; Reply: 18
Thanks Cloe. Just called the office....  Dr D is not taking appointments. :'(  The last time I was there the same thing happened and I was some what dissapointed, I am not looking to see anyone else in his office.  I would quicker see the students.  

I think I will wait a while.  Things are happening rather soon.  

I have time and many things I can do.  The Q is will I do them.  I have soooo many sups in my freezer, I could open a store.  all because I buy them and then do not take them.. nuts I know..  :X  

The cancer book has four items I can eat: always my first preference:  
Fava broad beans :good for all types
Domestic mushrooms

Eggs might be more neutral now.
more walnuts or almonds
Adzuki and black beans.
some fruits that are nice..

Interesting info on sups in the book to compare with SwAMI would be nice if it had as much info for current accute situations.. w'll see
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 9, 2013, 6:32pm; Reply: 19
Outside of Quercetin.. all swami sups are different from the book version..

I have some Qercetin at home.. time to take it.  

I think I will buy the 2 week before and 2 week after suregery recovery adjunct sups from the book..

Horse chestnut
Horse tail.
The problem: NAP does not sell them, and we have no store near us.. but maybe by Wednesday I might be in a place where I can buy them.  

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, September 9, 2013, 7:09pm; Reply: 20
Why not see one of Dr D's colleagues if he's not personally available? OK, so they didn't write any books, but that doesn't make them any less able to help you in a time of health crisis!

You can look online for other sources of those supplements, if you need something DPN doesn't sell.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, September 9, 2013, 7:52pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Why not see one of Dr D's colleagues if he's not personally available? OK, so they didn't write any books, but that doesn't make them any less able to help you in a time of health crisis!

You can look online for other sources of those supplements, if you need something DPN doesn't sell.

My husband and I are patients of the clinic and having had a lot of experience with meeting
Dr. D's colleagues and many different students (the students change every few months but the  doctors don't), I would highly recommend any of Dr. D's colleagues.  Dr. D takes his work very seriously and nobody gets to work in this clinic without sharing his complete philosophy and treatment guidelines.  I agree 1000% with Ruthie.  There is only one Dr. D but remember, all who work with him are trained and taught by him.  You would see students and one of the other doctors which is exactly what I did last month when I was at the clinic.  I love these other doctors
as much as I love Dr. D.  I promise you, you will not get lesser treatment with another doctor!

Call back and see if you can see Vanessa Doyle.  She's a shift supervisor.  I saw her a month
ago with new shift students.  She's absolutely awesome!  Incredibly knowledgable....she answered all my concerns and questions perfectly!

Nobody with a cancer diagnosis if they live close enough to get to this clinic should be wasting a second
of their own precious time making health/treatment decisions that might not be the very best ones to make. Remember
botanical medicine is what this clinic does....herbs, tinctures, things you can't find, buy or learn from any
of the books. P......U......LEEZE trust me and call the clinic!
Posted by: cajun, Monday, September 9, 2013, 8:02pm; Reply: 22
I agree with Chloe and Ruthie, Goldie! ;)
Please call the clinic again and make an appointment with one of Dr. D's colleagues. ::) :K)
Posted by: walk_the_walk, Monday, September 9, 2013, 8:34pm; Reply: 23
Dear Goldie,

Please don't try to deal with this on your own - there is a saying: -

..."We have two ears, but only one mouth...To be used in that exact proportion..."

Hugs...please listen to Chloe, Ruthiegirl and Cajun

Carla ;) :K) :K)
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 9, 2013, 9:26pm; Reply: 24
Ok I will call again..

Posted by: Chloe, Monday, September 9, 2013, 11:17pm; Reply: 25
Ah, Goldie, I now feel sooooo relieved to know that you're making another effort to get a clinic appointment.  

Be assured that you'll never find a more caring group of individuals....doctors and students who will completely understand what you're going through....know with great expertise how to compliment your conventional care. All of them are so smart, they will astound you!

Also know that very few individuals ever get chosen to become shift students.  This privilege belongs
to very few students at this university.

Sending you my very best wishes and continued support!  :)
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:37am; Reply: 26
Remember that you are an O, which means a greater chance of recovery.
But, whatever you do, don't delay!
Best wishes to you!!
Posted by: cat2, Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 11:59am; Reply: 27
Speedy get well wishes heading your way Goldie ((hugs)) xx
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 12:32pm; Reply: 28
Thanks all for you say.

I was soooo sure that I would not have Moms genes that I never even realized that the lump in my breast is anything more than a cyst.  I felt it 18 month, and felt it getting bigger to where it is one inch, towards the surface of the breast.  

I had taken a mammogram and sonogram last year and basically understood that it was a cyst.....  I am totally GUILTY of not having realized that there could be cancer some other place.  The cancer then might have been 1/8 of on inch... I mean these cancer things are Tiny, Tiny, and can not be 'felt’ by hand. They are often seen as a small darker, freckle.

I have to find out IF the bigger mass, the cyst, is a 'warning' about a cancer growing in some other more hidden spot??? A cyst might be a first warning? ! ! ?   I thought woman have many cysts and the 1. Doctor found many!
I first felt that cyst 18 month ago... from .5.inch (7 millimeter) to now one inch.    

The cancer is now .5 centimeter and is considered rather BIG.  I have no idea where it is, I have no clue about finding it in a breast exam.

I was now told that, had the cancer grown to one inch I would be dead.

All this is new to me…  

I feel rather certain, and was told for certain, that I will be ok.  I have no worries.  

The new mammogram specialist - a 40 year old female - is a no nonsense woman.  I got a second mammogram and sonogram the same day, the MRI for both breast the next (at 10 am she asked me can I be there by 1 pm? I said yes, it would take me two hours to drive there...
The following day I was in touch with the surgeon for a date. Seems when this Lady Doctor speaks, Doctors jump to please her.

I feel very confident also, because my mom survived 4 cancers and died peacefully from a fifth. The rest of my family all survived cancers, mostly malignant skin, (age 20 to 30) and all are ok.  The lesson here is that each of 5 people found the cancer them selves!!!!! By looking and reacting!

Awareness is the key, taking nothing for granted is the door to which it fits. To step into a different world, it requires follow through.  

I will have one day surgery, a lumpectomy and be home in bed by night time.

After casually talking to a German (cancer survivor breast cancer massage therapist, friend, he advised me: To find out IF my shoulder which I injured in February, is NOT healing because the Lymph nodes toward my neck and upper shoulder could be suffering?? I was told to consider that, and speak to the doctor about that.  I will.

The shoulder seems far away, and I would never think of that, I would have thought under the arm pit would be more so... I have no swollen glands.  NO one ever really looked, to my (now) surprise.  Seems under the arm happens much later, as in the days before precise testing was possible.  I guess we now do find things much earlier.

I had seen a breast three times its normal size being carried by a woman as if it was a baby, wondering what she could do with alternative medicines.  She was advised to have it removed, finally.  

I think we still do not really 'know' enough, so I am detailing here, to educate, and to explain it all to my self just as much.

Being soooo certain as I am has its advantages, I have no fear, but it might also have allowed me to wait to long.   Ignorance is NOT bliss. It is rather under-educated to where self reliance is a fault.  

I mean ½ of an eight of on inch - 1 millimeter- that is indeed small.  So all open your eyes to see and 'feel' much more carefully... I will from now on!  

I just shared this with 3 young friends.      

Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 5:59pm; Reply: 29
das zauberwort heisst immernoch *healing mushrooms* & Salvestroles ;) :K) ....(whistle)(happy)(smile)
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 7:31pm; Reply: 30
haben wir diese hier auch?? muss mal witer lesen..  
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 3:15am; Reply: 31
Lola: this was interesting for diabetes,

Is there such a simple link for Cancer? ... With cancer, does it matter if it was removed surgically? is there a before and after surgery supplement link like the above?

Now that I  have cancer, I am taking out all other health considerations in SWAMI
and just check of  Cancer and Diabetes as the only items from family and me.  
(until now I checked off many other things as well.) ---
if the cancer is operated out, do I continue to check off for cancer?

I printed 22 food pages before and after for comparison. Interesting.. there are quite a few Dramatic changes.

I might advise all with cancer in the family to review both lists in Swami (by changing the Profile)

Eggs went from diamonds to just Beneficial.... I eat to many no matter what..
No more diamond cheeses

Wow many changes, yet, I mostly ate only the items in the Cancer & Diab list anyway so I am not going to experience much of a change.    

So possibly in supps I might experience many differences..?
Posted by: wanthanee, Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 6:24am; Reply: 32
:D Beside Swami, add The Omega Diet please!
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 11:19am; Reply: 33
What a great download of oils incorporated foods.  Exactly right, more oils! to go to the bathroom.  Three days without and I am struggling again... so easy to combine the differences.


I already eat mostly like that.
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, September 13, 2013, 9:31am; Reply: 34
I have on appointment in October... by then I will have all this 'urgency' behind me.  

I am truly more concerned about my bigger belly (again)... the only good thing about that is; I look ok from the back...; D
I have to work on making my 'heart' related issues better. But for now its one thing at a time.  8)  

I am surprised at how I am not depressed at all.  Must be the Trehalose Complex did its job in my brain... nothing else changed...     I say 'did', because I take it only every so often lately.  Interestingly I am remembering 'better'.  My brain at least co-operates - a nice experience.  

I did eliminate some financial obligations.  Could that have lifted my mood?  I also cleaned out some 'closets' over the last year, all together maybe, is life easier?

I am less searching for the meaning of getting 'old'... Like the label diabetes, it took me a long time accepting it.  I still don't like the consequences of the label... the 'condition' is such a bother.   No matter how MUCH better I am over the years, I still struggle greatly.  I mean, giving up sugar/grain/carbs just is no fun.  Giving up 1 egg (of the 2) a day is near impossible, and fruit?  Well, to a large extent it is something I could eat a long time ago, while now- it comes with so much 'concern' it's nearly not worth the taste any more.

I wonder, does sugar feed cancer?  Immagine if I still ate so much more of it!! Maybe it was worth giving it up!?  :-/
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, September 13, 2013, 12:59pm; Reply: 35
After the cancer is surgically removed, you'd still want to keep the "cancer" box checked. There might be microscopic cancer bits that the surgeons missed- you want your body to get rid of those on its own. Also, the tendency towards cancer is still there- whatever allowed this to grow in the first place hasn't been changed, so you want to get to the root of the problem and not let cancer grow again!
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, September 13, 2013, 2:58pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from wanthanee
:D Beside Swami, add The Omega Diet please!

This should not be necessary...  SWAMI is very comprehensive...
Posted by: Jane, Friday, September 13, 2013, 5:02pm; Reply: 37
I just saw this thread.  My heart is breaking for you.  I'm with Chloe and Ruthie and urge you to please get in to see Dr. D or one of his associates.  
Don't give up and don't give in!
((((Many, many hugs)))).  I feel like I know you so well after so many years here on the original board and then Thomas's board and then back here again.  
Take care of yourself, please.
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, September 13, 2013, 6:24pm; Reply: 38
Goldie, increase your intake of a good quality extra virgin olive oil.  Here's why.

Fight breast cancer tumors.  Researchers from the Universitat Autonoma in Barcelona say that olive oil “thwarts the gene that drives the growth of breast cancer tumors, it switches off proteins that the cancer cells rely on in order to grow and multiply and it protects the DNA from damage that can lead to cancer."  In fact, they have shown that molecules in this antioxidant monounsaturated fat actually fight tumors, slowing their growth, in some cases, even causing them to implode.

Promote healing after surgery.  Rub olive oil on incisions to help them heal faster.

It might have helped prevent your diabetes if you had been using a lot of good quality EVOO from the start

And maybe avoid sugar completely for now.
Posted by: wanthanee, Saturday, September 14, 2013, 6:55am; Reply: 39
Quoted from ABJoe

This should not be necessary...  SWAMI is very comprehensive...

:) Oh, hello ABjoe. You are right. (and I love your post too).  Last time my blood tests on 5/3/2013

All numbers are good including white blood cell increase from 3.8 up to 4.2
Also, the book of The Omega Diet says:

“How do omega- 3 fatty acids slow the recruitment of white blood cells?

A key substance that the body uses to recruit white blood cells is called “leukotriene B4” or LTB4.
LTB4 is produced from arachidonic acid, or AA. The more AA in your body. The greater your production of LTB4. Most chronic inflammatory diseases are characterized by an overproduction of LTB4
Omega- 3 fatty acids are converted into a related substance called “leukotriene B5 or LTB5. It, too can attract white blood cells, but it is thirty times less effective. If you eat more omega-3 fatty acids and less omega-6 fatty acids, therefore, you are replacing a strong recruiter of white blood cells with a weaker one, reducing your risk of chronic inflammation.”

“How do omega -3 fatty acids fight cancer?

There are a number of theories to explain how omega-3 fatty acids fight cancer. First, it has been shown that omega-3 fatty acids reduce the amount of linoleic acid that tumors withdraw from the bloodstream, denying them a much-needed nutrient. Blunting the cancer-promoting effects of linoleic acid in this manner is known as “competitive uptake”

Second, omega-3 fatty acids compete with omega-6 fatty acids for enzymes that are needed for the creation of cancer-promoting metabolites.

Third, omega-3 fatty acids make cancer cells more vulnerable to free- radical attack by making their membranes less saturated. A cancer cell will die if it sustains sufficient free-radical damage.”

Finally, new research suggests that linoleic acid may help make cancer cells immortal by turning on a gene that prevents automatic cell death. By contrast, omega-3 fatty acids seem to promote the self-destruction of cancer cells, increasing their rate of die-off and thereby slowing overall tumor growth”

I would love to read and I will buy the book by Dr. D soon though (still put money in the jar)

“Cancer: fight it with this blood type diet” and

“Health Library: Menopause”

Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, September 14, 2013, 3:19pm; Reply: 40
All of the Omega 3 - 6 fat information is good support information.  I just wouldn't follow any specific diet information from the book that is one-size-fits-all...

My point with the above quote is that Dr. D., through SWAMI has designed the diet to include the proper levels of each type of fat, etc...

Too much of a good thing is not good either, so a long-term focus on one specific fat over another will possibly lead to deficiency in another area...  

Life is all about balance of many different substances within varying parameters to maintain a properly functioning set of systems...
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, September 14, 2013, 6:42pm; Reply: 41
your request about sugar intake and ca-feedings... I only can say yes !!! Thatswhy nearly all  well trained therapists go for the same recommendations: avoid all kinds of sugars.... meant here is: slow down all carbs!!!!!!!! Hey Madl they even remarked it publicity last week in Teutonia by docies....ooooh...aaahh... :o :-/ ;) ;D(smarty)(clap)(ok)(dance) after such a looooooooong period of not .........(dizzy)cooperatings
etc... just by the lack of knowledge called not having been introduced...jöööööö(think)(scared)(huh)........
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 16, 2013, 1:38am; Reply: 42
I will follow all good advise here... Thanks and I will respond in a day or so. I am currently taking care of a person with Parkinsons for anothe rweek or so.. .. compared tot hat I am just fine. (this was on old promise I made, but I have great helpers alll around.)

I am fine in any event.. I feel great, my head is on straight, and I am in good standing with all.

Tomorrow I am going to see the surgeon for the firt visit, and the appointment with Dr D is made for October...  I will be rid of this small cancer and the big cyst soon.  

I took a spoon of olive oil tonight and actusally one in the AM as well.. That will keep me going in good order. Very important to take the oil every day...  I agree.. luckily I have been doing so nearly every day since early spring...

See you here by wednesday.  You ALL made my journey much better. Thanks.  8)

Posted by: wanthanee, Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 5:09am; Reply: 43
Quoted from wanthanee
:D Beside Swami, add The Omega Diet please!

:o Ahhh…now I realize that what I said was wrong.   When I said “beside(s)” it actually sounded like I was talking about two things at the same time.

I should have said “please eat the foods which have Omaga 3 in your SWAMI food list”.

ABjoe, I am so sorry, please forgive me for my English  :B

And thank you for mention that  :D

Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 1:37pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from wanthanee
ABjoe, I am so sorry, please forgive me for my English  :B

And thank you for mention that  :D

No problem...  

I often wonder whether command of the language is the issue when something of this nature occurs.  Another reason to treat everyone with respect and continue to communicate to clear the point.  
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, September 17, 2013, 2:35pm; Reply: 45
I'm very happy to know you've made an appointment to see Dr. D, Goldie.  :) :) :)
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 11:13am; Reply: 46
Quoted from Goldie
Horse chestnut
Horse tail.
The problem: NAP does not sell them, and we have no store near us.. but maybe by Wednesday I might be in a place where I can buy them.
Any homeopathic/herbalist pharmacy will prepare them for you.

Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 11:19am; Reply: 47
Quoted from Amazone I.
das zauberwort heisst immernoch *healing mushrooms* & Salvestroles ;) :K) ....(whistle)(happy)(smile)
For the healing Pilzli

Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 11:20am; Reply: 48
Quoted from Goldie
the appointment with Dr D is made for October
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, September 18, 2013, 11:27am; Reply: 49
:o ;D(smarty)(clap)(ok)(dance) :K)
Posted by: wanthanee, Sunday, September 22, 2013, 6:54pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from ABJoe

No problem...  

I often wonder whether command of the language is the issue when something of this nature occurs.  Another reason to treat everyone with respect and continue to communicate to clear the point.  

  :D (((Hugs)))  :) :)
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, September 22, 2013, 8:19pm; Reply: 51
Goldie, lots of {{{{{hugs}}}}   ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 9:06am; Reply: 52
hello Goldie are you back  ??) and if so how are you doing ??)
please let us know how things are improving...(pray)(wiseman) :K)
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, September 26, 2013, 11:34pm; Reply: 53
Ok so I am past meeting all the doctors.. surgery next week and radiology at the same time!!!!! I am really interested in all and will report..

I am feeling great and will change my signature message to say.. NO!!! you can not ever wait til you 'feel' any lumps, to do it right: You need mamograms and sonograms.. then they find the buggers early and all will be well.

The test your breast once a month is outdated! by decades. By the time you would feel a cancer it is wayyyy late.  I found my cancer only because I did a mamogram for a cyst near by.. totally accidental, and not connected. Yet still a 'spot' showed to be in need of attention, and now in need of surgery to remove it!  I got lucky and this will be my mantra from now on..  All is well.  

Someone here please say you are going to get tested to make my experience worth while... I certainly never thought I would get cancer, (stupid as grandfather had a tumor growing for two decades on the outside of his ribs age 65 he died from it.. mom, Uterus age 29 / Colon cancer age 80 / Lung cancer age 91, Sister skin under eye lid aand on one ear, age 35 50, niece & nephew skin ages 30, one on the bottom of a foot, age 20 plus, brother throat cancer from smoking age 69,,,I am the first for breast,  Oh well.

My fathers diabetes genes seem easy compared.. I was so sure I was only his child, ridiculous... but I can still laugh out loud.. I got lucky as we all have been so far,.... even my brother might have suffered much more had he lived longer.. lucky for him he died early....  
Posted by: yaeli, Friday, September 27, 2013, 12:28am; Reply: 54
Goldie, in the meantime try to browse the catalogue of the herbalist Ron Teeguarden

I am writing this because he makes many extraordinary and extremely supportive blends of adaptogens for recuperation from especially difficult conditions and for healing from chronic conditions.

Posted by: wanthanee, Friday, September 27, 2013, 7:15pm; Reply: 55

Hi Goldie, Please read this one

Why does adiponectin help deter diabetes?

more here:


Posted by: Jane, Friday, September 27, 2013, 7:46pm; Reply: 56
Been thinking about you Goldie.  Hope your surgery goes well and that you'll be back here soon.  Be well and be strong.
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, September 27, 2013, 11:31pm; Reply: 57
Goldie, thinking good thoughts for you and hoping for the best possible outcome!
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, September 28, 2013, 10:50am; Reply: 58
wanthanee.. thanks that was interesting reading..

Curcumin is in my BTD for years, I just never used it.  Now I will.  Thanks!

The connection to breast cancer is interesting.  

Jane and other friends here: I have been assured that I will be fine, and if not I am near 70 and I feel well. I am not looking to live forever, just well and somehow contributing to life wherever I can.  By sharing here I am contributing to someone's life, and that is giving my life experience value.

I am going to be on the forefront of a a trial that later on will save many from much more dramatic radiation experiences.  I am something like 70iest on how they will do the radiation.  I am fine with that as the same type of direct radiation was used inside of my mom 68 years ago.  Actually I am feeling very secure.  

I lived with moms cancer story all my life, so much so that it is old hat.  What was NEW to me was the idea that I would get it... for some reason I just assumed that I had my fathers genes and only would have to deal with the dread of diabetes.  Cancer just was not in my psyche.. I was not in denial as I responded to changes in my breast right away, but I just was so sure that (with) BTD I would be healthy - so important, that even now I feel much more confident.  

Yet, in future I will listen more carefully, and take care to be involved in my SELF care.  I will do the mammograms as directed, and maybe never shut up about the need for them to others who might have been told to relay on 'feeling' during self examinations..  ::) The only thing I felt was a cyst, the cancer was found gratuitous in a nearby spot, size of the spot like this @@.

imagine feeling this! that is MY message....  with love to you all.      

Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, September 29, 2013, 10:07am; Reply: 59
:o ok perhaps would you want to think about radiation.... :-/ and implement better some *healing mushrooms* ??)...sorry for that but get further infos about radiation th. first!!! Wish you all the best  :K)
Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:15pm; Reply: 60
Goldie, how many weeks after the operation do they want to start radiotherapy?

Not all medical centers and radiotherapy institutions have the same methods.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, September 29, 2013, 12:28pm; Reply: 61
yaeli Mine will be done During Surgery, very located 'on' the spot.. @@ .. without damage to other tissue.  My mom had that procedure done 69 years ago, she was the first in her time.. and lived to tell me, so that today I am unafraid.  

Isa thanks..    
Posted by: wanthanee, Monday, September 30, 2013, 6:44am; Reply: 62
Quoted from Goldie
wanthanee.. thanks that was interesting reading..

Curcumin is in my BTD for years, I just never used it.  Now I will.  Thanks!

The connection to breast cancer is interesting.  

  with love to you all.      


:D :K) (((hugs))) We love you too!

Finally, I got the book titled, Cancer Fight It with the Blood Type Diet-The Individualized Plan For Preventing and Treating Cancer.

Here is what it says:" Blood Type O Cancer-Fighting Super Foods

Richly oilled cold- water fish. Action- Source of Omega-3 acids
Flax (linseed) oil
Fava (Broad) bean
Domestic mushroom
Dill weed
Green tea

In addition, Blood Type O requires regular high-intensity exercise to maintain immune strength and metabolic balance."

If possible, please eat the foods on the above list every day. :)

This time is the season for Jackfruit. Maybe you can find it at your Local farmer's market.

Everytime you eat canned fish, please put minced Garlic (after mincing leave for 10 minutes), Dried Dill weed, DriedTarragon, Dried Turmeric (even better if you can get fresh Turmeric which is more powerful) It might not taste good but that is your medicine.

I am so glad you will see Dr. D soon. Best wishes to you. :D

Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, September 30, 2013, 7:47am; Reply: 63
Turmeric is only really powerful while its bioavailability is triggered with bioperin....and in therapeutical dosages... this means for ex. 500mg's of curcuma(475mg's of true curcumin) and some 25 mg's of black pepper called bioperin  :)

for normal cases...2-4 capsules daily, I think with your machina you should test yourselve about the needed amounts ;) :D wish you all the best .......
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, September 30, 2013, 9:28am; Reply: 64
Meandering about what to do in future.. started writing in the other thread about cancer prevention foods...   Thanks for the lists ... building blocks for this discussion on cancer (my) experience.

For now I am willing .. and more important, able to follow some guidelines by Dr D.    ... I am expounding in my cancer thread..  

Lucky so far I like onions, mushrooms as served with the steak served in a specific restaurant, and I like asparagus.  Three items as indicated as good against cancer.  The interesting part of this is that I have been eating them for the last three years, and still some cancer cells have taken root.  

So while not discounting the effects, they might have helped not to grow the cancer cells faster, or some other sugar eating that I have done may have caused the cancer to get started, or genetic's took over and created the cancer, or just life created a cancer, whatever, the results are the same.  

With my attempts to eat BTD in the best means I can manage mentally, I am only lucky insofar as I followed through with testing.  If I had followed through to do the biopsy as suggested by the first doctor who saw my first mammogram, I might have struggled to eat cancer prevention ways, more often, but as it is a year later I am surgically removing this cancer.

In my cancer - I am at a loss of thinking how I am supposed to be controlling my way of eating, when I am out of control to begin with.

I wish I could be like the counterpart of me that wishes to eat right, and never eat to much of any thing and never what is extra, ,,, but this counterpart of me is not strong enough.  If I was able to be as I wish to be, I would be skinny, I would not reach for foods not good for me, and I would never be hungry, be it mentally nor emotionally, nor physically.

I have no idea what I will do in future, I do know that there has never been a moment in my life when I did not TRY to live life as prescribed, but I fail to do so a million times a day.  I know that diabetes will be my killer, so my heart will give out, and now maybe cancer will get to me later some other place, and even with all those I am not able to deal with my own judgement of failure.  

I will live my life to the end, as mom did, and I will be contented that I did the best I could!   My judgement is not mal-intended, it is what it is.  I do wish they the scientists would find a way to radiate the nerve in my stomach that triggers my eating.  I would gladly be the first to try doing this, if I had the hope that it might stop the out of control behavior.

I was able to control my eating behavior for years, until they took the pill off the market for health reasons.. stupid as that decision was, I am certain that many untold thousands of people are over weight because of that decision.  and then again, people with cancer often are skinny.  I am in the end not contemplating what might have been, many things were not as I envisioned, and it really does not matter.

Nothing matters other then my life one day at a time, the rest is up to the Universes plan for one creature among millions. My peace of mind is what offers me health.  I will eat asparagus,and i will eat onions and maybe look up to see which mushrooms are most beneficial.  To do so I have to click on each mushroom look-up and make copies or I will forget which is which.  So be it: a project to be done soon.  I am contented.              
Posted by: wanthanee, Wednesday, October 2, 2013, 7:41pm; Reply: 65
:D If you don’t mine I would like to share some more (in the book of Cancer fight it with the blood type diet for Type O)

“individualized blood type plans

THE BEST WISDOM of both conventional and naturopathic medicine is that regular exercise, including aerobic activity and weight training, is essential to your cancer-fighting strategy. Blood Type O benefits tremendously from brisk exercise that taxes the cardiovascular and musculoskeletal system. If you are a cancer patient, you may have to slow down your regimen somewhat, but strive to do as much as you can.

Remember, proper exercise does not tire you out; it gives you energy my blood type O patients who are undergoing chemotherapy often complain that they are too weak to exercise. They are surprised to find that the activity itself makes them feel stronger and more energized.

Physical exercise is also an excellent way to counter the effects of stress. There is a well-known link between cancer ;and stress. High stress levels deplete immune system defenses, especially natural killer (NK) cell activity. For Blood Type O, exercise is necessary to properly process the stress hormones called catecholamines  (most notably, adrenaline), and to balance dopamine levels. Aerobic exercise increases the efficiency of the body’s handling of both dopamine and adrenaline.
Build a balanced routine of both aerobic and strength-training activities from the following chart.

Aerobics           40-60 minutes     3-4 x week
Weight training     30-45 minutes     3-4 x week
Running          40-45 minutes      3-4 x week
Calisthenics     30-45 minutes 3 x week
Treadmill          30 minutes 3 x week
Kick boxing     30-45 minutes      3 x week
Cycling           30 minutes     3 x week
Contact sports     60 minutes     2-3 x week
In-line/roller-skating     30 minutes     2-3 week

Three Steps to Effective Exerc ise

1. Before you begin your aerobic exercise, warm up with a walk, then perform some careful stretching movements to increase flexibility.

2. To achieve maximum cardiovascular benefits, work toward an elevated heart rate that is about 70 percent of your capacity. Once you reach the elevated rate, continue exercising to maintain that rate

For twenty to thirty minutes. To calculate your maximum heart rate and performance level:
•Subtract your age from 220.
•Multiply the difference by .70(or .60 if you are over age 60). This is the high end of your performance.
•Multiply the remainder by .50. This is the low end of your performance.

3. Finish each aerobic session with a cool down of at least five minutes, combining some careful stretehing and flexibility movements with a relaxing walk.

Super-food Snacks
Keep your energy high and your immune system strong with healthy snacks, made from your super cancer-fighting foods: trail mix made with walnuts, dried cherries, and dried blueberries; seaweed salad with sliced mushrooms. Vegetable sushi; mixed berries with soy milk: green tea-hot or iced.

Exercise Regimen
Plan to exercise at least 4 days this week, for 45 minutes each day.
2 days: aerobic activity
2 days: weights
Use your journal to detail the time, activity, distance, and amount of weight. Note the number of repetitions for each exercise.

Off for work now  :)
Posted by: yaeli, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 5:58am; Reply: 66
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 11:52am; Reply: 67
So today I am on my way to the surgery in the big city. I will be back in a day or two... here-a good place to look forard to come back to. see you all later. 8)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 1:17pm; Reply: 68
Good luck Goldie!
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 1:59pm; Reply: 69
Thinking of you Goldie.  I know it will all go well.  Take care and stay strong.
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 2:33pm; Reply: 70
Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers today, Goldie....Hope everything goes smoothly and that you're soon back home recovering!  
Posted by: Tami, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 4:03pm; Reply: 71
Goldie, its very nice to meet you. Im sorry your going through so much right now. I dont know if my past will help you in any way but I wanted to both tell you a little, and interoduce myself after reading your post. I have a few more posts to read as well, I didnt get through the entire 3rd page yet and have to run an errand. Some of the things I have mentioned have also been mentioned.

Over the years I have had my eye on things that help fight cancer. I wanted to list some of them for you, but have not cross referenced blood type O.
Peanut skin -the shell under the shell
snail - escargo
coQ10 - repairs cell and helps prevent cancer growth

Some things to lower estrogen, because sugar and estrogen feed cancer
flax seed
soy - thru foods
You can google search more foods to lower estrogen, and if you have any body fat (tummy as you mentioned) estrogen may be in excess already.

I would say cancer can remain hidden and I would want to keep the swami on the cancer setting. I say that but I dont have a swami, just an understanding of breast cancer. I have lost many in my family to environmental breast cancer. One aunt survived, but now has passed on from her heart issues, and I asked her daughter what blood type her mom was and she said at one point she thinks her mom was AB, but the heart surgeries (no transplant) changed it to just B. Is that even possible after chemo and heart issues? I have no idea. All I know is I am AB, my half sister is AB and so is my cousin. That means none of our parents were O, so they were either AB & A or B, or A and B.

Where does that leave my aunts who got cancer, or my grandparents who got cancer? Where does that leave my dads mom who didnt get cancer and lived into her 80s? One of my dads sisters is O.

SO a little background on my family with cancer. I will name them, but know they are from my moms side.

Bernice - suffered from breast then bone cancer. She got a lump and didnt go to the doctor.She died in the mid 80s

Ray - wound up with major organ cancer and died in the late 80s. I have no proof but maybe he was an O or a B

Ruth - the B who may have been AB had a weak heart from a childhood illness and had a valve replaced. Twenty years later it was replaced again and then I think she had 2 more heart surgeries and a pace maker over the years. She got breast cancer when I was in my 20s. She was probably in her 40s. She had chemo and radiation, and surgery and survived and went into remission. Six years ago half her heart stopped working after the meds were not working well. She died the next day.

Sally - the baby of the family. She got breast cancer had it removed and decided to fight it with diet. She did not know about the blood type diet, and by the time I saw her it was more her fighting the bone cancer because she couldnt eat, and she would make shakes. She was trying to prolong her life. She got bone cancer that made her lungs fill with fluid. They drained it twice, and the 2nd time said she would die in 3 days and she did. I sat with her while she died, we were very close.

Katherine - One of the older sisters, got lukemia that was dormant for a long time but in the end she died because of it. If she could have gotten over an infection they had a blood match for her and things might have gone better. I wasnt there and wasnt close to her so I do not have many more details.

There are 3 sisters and 1 brother still alive. The oldest is around 85, and youngest turns 62 next month.

Posted by: Tami, Thursday, October 3, 2013, 5:56pm; Reply: 72
Caught up on the whole thread now. Good luck on your surgery today and recovery.

I think onion, mushroom and asparagus lower estrogen and cancer risk, but do not kill cancer cells (going on memory). Tumeric has been shown to work like tamoxifen and might even kill cancer cells, or so I have read. I am no scientist and cannot prove anything. For some reason peanut shells and escargo fight cancer(s) of the breast.

I know you asked for someone to say they would get tested. I had a mamo at the end of last year and no one ever sent me results, and I never called. I will call and set up my next appointment at the same time (:.

As for your counterpart, Im with you. Food is the hardest thing to overcome. Its everywhere. Unlike with alchol you cannot just stop going to bars or buying it. You can walk around the outside of the store, never entering the evil inner isles unless absolutely necessary. But with food you will always find evil foods. I found the whole addiction part of foods very interesting, when I read Diet Rehab. Theres lots of good ideas on how to get that feel good feeling from other activities, and how to stop all those cravings. Reduction is key, right?

Really, you can get over the addictive cravings, but unlike alchol and other drugs, its a 2 week or so process, not a 2 day or so process. It can be treated like and addition and should be recognized as such, then dealth with. Check out Diet Rehab, even if all you do is read it at the library or book store, or order it used at amazon. Kindle had it for like $7 the other day when I told a friend about it.

Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 6, 2013, 12:58pm; Reply: 73
All went well.the cancer is gone and I did not even need to take a tylenol. two small incisions..  

.. but NOW the diabetes will take center stage!

I OWE it to the doctors and all the many staff at the hospital to do more for emy diabetes.  I was impressed how many peices of equipment where used for my little bit of cancer!  

I FEEL GRATITUDE!!!! for all who went before me,  and I hope I can teach for the future.

The cancer was found because I got a cyst, and I acted on what I knew.. I made the error of not asking more questions .. I made the mistsake of not going to see another doctor for a second opinion IF I DID NOT like the first doctor.. I think that is a lesson we should all learn now!

Now keeping Diabetes up front and acting and eating correctly is a new mission for me. If I neglect that all else will be damaged and that I wish to prevent.  

Thanks for all the writings above, I have not read most after the first few lines.. I am still sleepy.. but I will come back and read it all... THanks all!
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, October 6, 2013, 1:48pm; Reply: 74
all about BIT-BRT and other th's...can't add any further info nor
do I want to go into questionings... :o :X .. :o :-/ ??) :'( :X
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, October 6, 2013, 3:00pm; Reply: 75
Goldie,I'm so glad to hear the surgery went well and that this is behind you.  Focusing on your diabetes now is the best thing you can do to live the healthiest life possible.... Wishing you my very best!  :)
Posted by: walk_the_walk, Sunday, October 6, 2013, 6:32pm; Reply: 76
Goldie, likewise I'm thrilled that the surgery all went so well for you, get better, best, soon lass
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 6, 2013, 8:14pm; Reply: 77
all questions are answered all is well. small 2/5 cm opening and out cam the bu**er.  Another under the arm and all being supported as pulling on stitches id no fun.

I am resting and enjoying the comfort of home.  Friend brought lunch, and another is cooking dinner, and I am the recipient of many phone calls.  

I will elaborate on the how and what tomorrow, feeling lazy just now..  8)
Posted by: Tami, Monday, October 7, 2013, 1:54pm; Reply: 78
So glad you checked in and are well (:

I once read through Dr Lee's books that adding progesterone cream (only a few sources appear to be safe) to the breast after an injury/surgery increases chances of recovery. If you want, when I am at home I can look up what he has to say, just let me know.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 7, 2013, 2:31pm; Reply: 79
Interestingly I have accidentally used a cream with progesterone, a drop at a time, over the last few month on my fingernails.  I was just using whatever was near me, it was easy.  

My finger nails were very bad, they completley recovered and feel stronger again.

Yes please let me know.. I would be much interested.  I have this cream and I could use it.  

I expect to be fine.. I expect that I will be ok all around.  The cancer is not my issue, I need to focus on keeping me healthier to make the work of all the doctors worth it and appreciated.  My diabetes is on issue but I got a wake up call and I intend to do way better.  NOW I have a reason..

The scar on by left breast is circulr around the nipple, and streight under the arm.  I appreciate the circular scar as that is most likely much less bothersome as it heals.  like putting a round peg in a round hole works better than the squere peg trying to fit in a round situtaion.    I think he must have taken about a one inch/one inch mass, total and the effects are minimal.  

The scvar under the arm is sore since he took what is called a Sentinal Node/gland out to have it tested.  It seemed clear so no others would be needed.  Should the pathology come back unclear then the next node would becoem the new Sential node and so on and so on.  I expect no issues.

I was lucky that I had the Year to play with.. stupid in hine sight, but I learnead that ignornace is not bliss.

I was ignorant about my diabetic meds.. I was misunderstanding their value, and so negelected to do right.  I think sometime reading  what we do here, might give us a sense of 'superiority' of knowledge, and we might be somewhat arrogant.  

I think I needed to ask many questions, but truley, I did not know what the questions should have been.  Live and learn and staying open minded is most important.  I think I learned a big lesson.

I still have not read all the above, still feel sleepy, but I will..

Thanks all and your support is appreciated.. and I will listen...  
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, October 7, 2013, 3:09pm; Reply: 80
Goldie....Before you consider using progesterone cream, make certain this tumor was triple negative....for estrogen, for progesterone and for HER2.  If you had a progesterone sensitive tumor, you want to stay far far away from using that cream.

Be very careful taking any medical advice from forum members, even though all are well intended.  Most of us aren't professionals and progesterone is a hormone that can feed a cancer cell ((if your particular tumor
is responsive to progesteron) and turn into tumor!  Please wait and get the right advice from the clinic.  The shift and Dr. D will get you on the road towards better health.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 7, 2013, 4:38pm; Reply: 81
I am not jumping, taking your advice to heart.  The tumor, a small spot the size of  :) and is not bigenough to be called a tumor.. I mean forget about feeling such items.. not possible..

I am following Doctors right now on diabetes and will make great efforts to be compliant.  That will help in the repairing of the wounds from the surgery.  

I have no after effects from the surgery and nothing on the radiation which was done during surgery.. I feel remarkably fine.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, October 7, 2013, 4:52pm; Reply: 82
What a wonderful update!

Be sure to take care of yourself, and remember that allopathic medicine isn't evil. It's powerful, and often over used or misused,  but there are times when drugs and surgery can do what diet, exercise, and supplements just can't. If you need to use medication to keep your blood sugar stable, then that's what you need to do. It's one more tool to use, along with diet, exercise, and supplements, to keep you in optimal health.

Right now, the top priority is healing from the surgery.
Posted by: yaeli, Tuesday, October 8, 2013, 6:55am; Reply: 83
:D :K) {{{Hugs}}}

All the best!
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 8, 2013, 2:26pm; Reply: 84
After surgery Report..

THANK you ALL  ;D... I know I am in your thoughts and that many well wishes came to me... I have not ignored the love... I am feeling great :).  

The surgery was nothing to speak of 8)...

I was lucky to have been in a surgical proceedure/program that allowed me to be on the forefront of what is standard.  :K)

I received UP to DATE treatment.  

I was number 70 to have received a lumpectomy WITH radiation localized to the open wound WHILE in surgery.  THIS is up and coming.

I was at NY Hospital, and others will do the same in the next years.  Look for info in the news papers ... You might have read about it last weekend in some of the papers.  

Radiation only where needed - not on the whole breast.  I got lucky all around.

My waiting the year (stupid-but it worked out to my advantage-) by going to NY for surgery I received this type of radiation to be very localized and finished in one sitting.. I have no ill effects.  

Big sister can be annoying, but she was there to help all around and stayed with me all the way!  

I have two incisions, one circle one near the nipple/ 2.5 inches, where the small spot was, and another straight line 2.5 inches under the arm for one nodule removal, to make sure the cancer had not metastisid yet.  

I got lucky.  The cancer is so small, even though I (stupidly) did not react to its 'existence' last year / when I was examined by a surgeon at my local Doctors office... .. Some had to do with the doctor having annoyed me... That doctor pocked painfully under the breast to find any lump... after finding 5 on one side, I told him that that was enough to test further.. It was painful... He was somewhat arrogant... and never really talked properly... in fact I was unaware until this month that he was looking at a cancer under the cyst!!! ... He had found it, but did not communicate well enough.  He wanted more tests - but I did not see it his way... he had not been forthright... he left me somewhat ‘ignorant’ of the facts as he suspected them to be. he may not be all guilty but he also did not follw up correctly.. we both made errors then...

At the time I was to annoyed at the doctor because he was arrogant and painful... and he had never spelled out in so many words that I had cancer 10 month ago... .. I will make proper notifications to that doctor soon enough...  

The current doctors all- did not pocke hurt me- and did not annoy me, and explained all with a sense of respect.  

I had sent my last year’s mammogram and the other findings to the NY doctor my sister went to, for a second opinion...

I was shocked when she communicated that I had a small cancer under the cyst, and that I needed to follow up on that.  This was news to me...

...................even though I had seen the primary doctor often during that year... when I asked my reg doctor to read what the first cancer specialist doctor /surgeon had said, he was shocked that cancer was then already suspected but I had not reacted to it.....

Interestingly, I do not have cancer in the lumps under my breast where the original doctor pocked at...

Instead I had a small spot way higher AND I DID NOT EVER feel that one!!!!!!!!!! To small. To hidden... I GOT LUCKEY!  

I have a round incision 2.5 inches, around the nipple, and about one inch of tissue missing.  Really localized... Under my arm I have a straight incision about 2.5 inches where they removed the first and so far only lymph node.  I expect that one sentry gland to be the only one needed to be removed for testing, as it had not metastasized (travel) yet... ... I GOT LUCKEY!!!!!! I expect to be fine...

In essence this was a piece of cake!  The surprise was that I got a cancer... NOW! All in mom’s family had cancer... Grandpapa, Mom, Brother, Sister, Nieces and Nephews...  

I am lucky indeed, and yet- I never suspected to get cancer... I had a very false sense of security of being my father’s child with diabetes...  Instead I am also mom’s child with inherited cancer genes.  I feel grateful for all that I know and have done right, but now I have a sense of responsibility to do better as far as diabetes is concerned... I owe the ones before me to do RIGHT.

I got lucky, I had insurance!!!!!!  I had no fear! I had experienced cancer in my family all my life, and yet I was never afraid... I was less careful about getting tested until "I" saw a need.STUPID!.

I know that I got realllllly lucky!!!

I got lucky on several places/// one:  the first surgeon doctor did not follow up properly - and my primary never saw his notes... so I never received any writing as to what the surgeon suspected- and I was not operated on by him... instead :

My Sisters Doctor in NY sounded the alarm and followed through...  within three weeks I am now cancer free again...  and I got the least amount of radiation.... experimental... very localized instead of the entire breast...  [u]I got lucky/u], as the waiting the year to follow up might not have done me more damage...  

I liked all the NY doctors, they where so Gentle that I could not even feel their examinations... so - no need to pocke and hurt me... a lesson learned.. If you do not care for your doctor CHANGE to a new one...

I must admit that I was at fault for some of the experience with the first one, but still....

And YET, by waiting the time, I went to another doctor who is doing this BRAND NEW procedure of doing radiation while the (cancer removed) wound was still open... I might not have gone to the NY doctor if the first one had been pleasant... and then I would have received radiation on the whole breast... I got lucky!!!!    

Any one here wanting more info just ask all the questions you can think of... I will answer or ask my doctors for info...  

I am my mother’s daughter and my father’s daughter... I am very respectful of the doctors that where available to me.  I am pleased to be so optimistic and here to tell the story for a long time to make a difference where it might matter.  I am grateful.  

Posted by: Tami, Tuesday, October 8, 2013, 2:34pm; Reply: 85
So sorry I didnt see your reply yesterday. I will try to look for more info tonight, but here is what I have in my brain.

I use happy pms cream when I need it. The least expensive place I have found for it

My doctors have approved my use of pc. Dr Lee said something in his book about applying it after surgery/injury. I will surely look for what he said soon.

Also many PC brands will say can cause cancer, and they can, there are very few that are considered safe. So Chloe is right, check the brand you were using on your nails to be sure its

Dr John Lee MD has previews into his books on his website:
he also has a safer version of prog cream (PC)

This book is the one I will check for info for you, but you may also go to a book store and read for free or buy it. You can sometimes get a free audio book on, usually through amazon I think.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 8, 2013, 2:39pm; Reply: 86

I am so glad to read this..

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Posted by: Jane, Tuesday, October 8, 2013, 2:50pm; Reply: 87
I was at my endocrinologist's yesterday and didn't see your posts until just now.  I'm so glad the surgery is over and it went well.  It reminds me of my thyroid surgery in 1996.  I had a benign parathyroid adenoma that was removed and they decided because of my history or radiation as a child to remove the thyroid at the same time.  They had seen something very very small on the ultrasound.  It turned out to be thyroid cancer and it was caught very early.  All of that plus my ulcerative colitis is what brought me here.

So happy that it went well and wasn't too uncomfortable.  I'll be anxious to hear that you are progressing well and hopefully that Dr. D will have great suggestions for you when you see him soon.

Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 2:57am; Reply: 88
Just found this tonight. I'm so glad our prayers were answered & that you are doing so well!

This new method of treatment sounds interesting.  You are a pioneer!
Posted by: Serenity, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 3:56am; Reply: 89
Thank you for sharing your experience with us.  I am glad to hear you are on the road to recovery, all the best :K)
Posted by: Tami, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 4:02pm; Reply: 90
Are you going to look into or ask about the progesterone? I dont want to give more information or look into it and inform of things if its not of interest. Feel free to PM me to reply to my prior messages.
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 9:40pm; Reply: 91
I got a clean bill of health at my followup with the surgeon.. ;D 8) :) LOL
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 10:45pm; Reply: 92
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, October 12, 2013, 5:09am; Reply: 93
Quoted from Goldie
I got a clean bill of health at my followup with the surgeon.. ;D 8) :) LOL

Goldie .. I am not in these forums as often as I should, considering how important this way of life is for me, so I have only now find out what has been going on with your life for the last few weeks!!!!  Oh, I am so glad to see you are on the mend after the cancer surgery and that you will see Dr D's clinic soon too.  I know that you will get that diabetics state out of your system soon enough and look forward to hearing about your healing experiences ... Big hugs and thumbs up for your inspiring attitude and outlook in life, whatever it has to offer.   Yes, as usual, you are an inspiration ... :)
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, October 12, 2013, 1:24pm; Reply: 94
Today I have survived a full week since my surgery... I had no ill effects and am certain that all is well.  The two scars are just fine lines, and on the inside the breast tissue has a small indent and there is some hardness.  I was told that it would go away as soon as the tissue had a chance to heal and allow the swelling to diminish.    

Yet I learned much since this week and I am continuing the healing the rest of my body in the other thread:... Diabetes a  n e w look for our gene inheritance.   

And possibly over this weekend I will read up on all the suggestions made here.  I know I have a few questions. Re-reading all your supportive posts will be a pleasure... Thanks all.
Posted by: wanthanee, Saturday, October 12, 2013, 9:52pm; Reply: 95

:D Hi Goldie, I am so glad that you are doing well!

A few days ago I got Jackfruit and you were in my thoughts so much that I wish I could share with all you guys.  Of course there is enough for everybody. ;D

Also, I already looked up in the book that Jackfruit is a Cancer-Fighting Super Food for Type B, A, O and AB!

I just wanted to remind you of 2 more things:

Please don’t forget to breath! Yes. I read somewhere, it says:
“Proper breathing requires the use of your diaphragm-the layer of muscle that separates your chest cavity and the lungs from the abdominal cavity. When you breathe properly, so as to fill the lower lungs, the diaphragm contracts and your belly sticks out. This allows the lungs to expand and fill with air. And here’s how to do it properly.

Visualize the air filling your lungs from the bottom all the way up. Place one hand on your abdomen and one hand on your chest. Inhale slowly and deeply through your nose into your abdomen to push up your hand as much as feels comfortable. Your chest should move only a little and only with your abdomen. For best results, take 10 breaths, 3 time a day in the following ratio:

1.Inhale for a count of 1
2.Hold for a count of 4
3.Exhale for a count of 2

You should use this breathing technique every day, especially when you feel tired, lack mental focus, are under stress, or experience anxiety.

This technique of breathing from the bottom up can also be used to maximize you oxygen intake prior, during, and after physical activity, which is the topic of the next section.
Move your body!

No course on getting healthy and vibrant would be complete without a discussion about exercise and its importance to you health. As you may know, your body actually has two circulatory systems:
1.Your cardiovascular system that is comprised of your heart and blood vessels that circulate blood to and from your lungs(and the rest of you body), and

2.Your lymphatic system that hauls away waste products and toxins from your muscles and tissues. In effect, your lymphatic system is the garbage collector of you body.

The human body has 15 pints of blood and a huge pump( the heart) to move it through your body. You also have 45 pints of lymph fluid and no pump to move it through your body.

The only way that your body can move the lymph fluids through your body is through muscle contractions that squeeze the lymph through a system of one way values. The lymph carries major toxins to your lungs where they are expelled from the body through breathing.

It is this lymphatic system that benefits greatly from daily exercise.  When we don’t move or exercise then gravity pulls the lymph downward and it becomes stagnant and the toxins that it would carry out of your body become stagnant as well.

This accumulation over time turns into premature aging along with ankle edema.

Besides, if the toxins are not successfully removed through the lymphatic system, they may start to back up in your tissues(swelling), joints (arthritis), lymph nodes(lymph disease and cancer), skin(pimples and blemishes), and various organs.”
I would like to try rebounding exercise though, it may be more fun.

I also love this one, it's only 20 minutes long makes me sweat.

Take care everyone.  :D
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 13, 2013, 7:49am; Reply: 96
wow that was in debt.. Thanks.. very good to remind me of it all.. I have to find Jackfruit.. have no idea where from???? ..  ;D
Posted by: cindyt, Monday, October 14, 2013, 4:26am; Reply: 97
I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, October 14, 2013, 5:50pm; Reply: 98
Quoted from cindyt
I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.

That is such great news cindyt. :) I'm curious.... if a tumor is progesterone receptor positive why is natural progesterone cream effective?  It would seem to me that progesterone was helping your
tumor to grow.  Obviously not.  Just an interesting perspective because I'm happy to hear you're
a 14 year survivor, I'm just not understanding why progesterone prevented rather than fed the
very cells that helped to form the original tumor.  Or perhaps although those tumor has cells
react positively to progesterone, but progesterone does not make cancer cells grow.
Posted by: Tami, Monday, October 14, 2013, 9:26pm; Reply: 99
Quoted from cindyt
I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.

Thats great Cindyt. What is progesterone receptor positive?

Where do you buy yours? I was planning the use the happy pms kind. Do you have any issues with female monthy type of things? I am rounding out my child bearing years and want to use prog.

Chloe, I think npc is effective because it lowers estrogen, and estrogen would be food for cancer. Progesterone rebuilds bone, and helps the body is so many other ways. Estrogen helps you maintain bone, but isnt good in excess. In the monthly cycle, a woman gets a rest from the bad effects of estrogen after ovulation. One problem that arrises is the western diet and food choices often lead to 50% lower progesterone than what is needed.

What side effects do you have if any Cindyt? When I was taking npc after ovulation it made me so tired, but then that may have been the fertility medicines I was taking back then, too.
Posted by: cindyt, Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 5:12am; Reply: 100
I started progesterone cream post-menopause.  I had no side effects, but began to feel stronger again.  I had the urine test, the name of which escapes me right now, before and after starting it, and went from above normal bone loss to below normal bone loss.  My Mom started using it after breaking four or five bones, including a hip, due to osteoporosis and that was the end of her breaking bones.  obviously in our family it's a good thing to use.

For anyone interested in using it, I recommend reading Dr. Lee's books.

Soon after I completed breast cancer treatment 24 years ago, I found an article in a medical journal saying that being progesterone receptor positive was a good thing, not a bad thing, that it seemed to be protective.  By now there are probably many more studies.

I do recommend getting it prescribed by either an M.D. or a naturopath.  Usually compounding pharmacies can give you names of doctors who are open to prescribing it.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 5:13pm; Reply: 101
I will see my oncologist the end of the month.. I will take the email dicussion here with me and ask him about it and report nack..
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 6:16pm; Reply: 102
Quoted from cindyt
I had breast cancer in 1989, lumpectomy, radiation and chemo (standard back then even for stage 1).  The tumor was slightly estrogen receptor positive and much more progesterone receptor positive.  At the suggestion of my naturopath, and after having read Dr. Lee's work, I started using bioidentical progesterone cream in 1996.  I get it from a compounding pharmacy and use a very low dose twice a day.  I have not had a recurrence, and it will be 14 years in December, with 17 of those using progesterone cream.  YMMV as they say.

I think you meant 24 years, not 14? I was perplexed how you could have 14 years of no problems, 17 of them with the cream. I figured you meant 7 with the cream, until I realized that it's been 24 years since 1989. Jeepers- that means my baby cousin is turning 24 in about a month!
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 6:30pm; Reply: 103
Quoted from Tami

Thats great Cindyt. What is progesterone receptor positive?

This should answer your question, Tami

When a sample of your breast cancer is examined under a microscope, here's what the pathologist looks for:

Some breast cancers are sensitive to your body's naturally occurring female hormones — estrogen and progesterone. The breast cancer cells have receptors on the outside of their walls that can catch specific hormones that circulate through your body. Knowing your breast cancer is sensitive to hormones gives your doctor a better idea of how best to treat the cancer or prevent cancer from recurring.

Hormone status of breast cancers includes:

Estrogen receptor (ER) positive. This type of breast cancer is sensitive to estrogen.
Progesterone receptor (PR) positive. This type of breast cancer is sensitive to progesterone.
Hormone receptor (HR) negative. This type of cancer doesn't have hormone receptors, so it won't be affected by treatments aimed at blocking hormones in the body.
With ER positive or PR positive breast cancer, hormone-blocking medications, such as tamoxifen, may be an option to slow the cancer's growth. HR negative cancers don't respond to hormone-based therapy.

What is the genetic makeup of your breast cancer cells?

Doctors are just beginning to understand how the individual DNA changes within cancer cells might one day be used to determine treatment options. A cell's DNA is full of instructions (genes) that tell it how to behave. By analyzing the genes, doctors hope to find ways to target specific aspects of the cancer cells to kill them.

Laboratory testing can reveal certain genes in your cancer cells, such as:

HER-2 gene. Cancer cells that have too many copies of the HER-2 gene produce too much of the growth-promoting protein called HER-2. Medications are available to shut down the HER-2 protein, thus slowing the growth and killing these cancer cells.
Other genes. Researchers are studying ways to interpret the genetic makeup of tumor cells. Doctors hope this information can be used to predict which cancers will spread and which may need aggressive treatments. That way, women with relatively low-risk breast cancers may avoid aggressive treatments. Tests that analyze the genetic makeup of breast cancers are available, but aren't recommended in all situations. Ask your doctor whether this type of test might be helpful in your case.
Using genetic information about cancer, doctors are now able to categorize breast cancers into groups. Categorizing cancers based on their genetic makeup helps guide decisions about which treatments are best. Breast cancer groups include:

Group 1 (luminal A). This group includes tumors that are ER positive and PR positive, but negative for HER-2. Luminal A breast cancers are likely to benefit from hormone therapy and may also benefit from chemotherapy.
Group 2 (luminal B). This type includes tumors that are ER positive, PR negative and HER-2 positive. Luminal B breast cancers are likely to benefit from chemotherapy and may benefit from hormone therapy and treatment targeted to HER-2.
Group 3 (HER-2 positive). This type includes tumors that are ER negative and PR negative, but HER-2 positive. HER-2 breast cancers are likely to benefit from chemotherapy and treatment targeted to HER-2.
Group 4 (basal-like). This type, which is also called triple-negative breast cancer, includes tumors that are ER negative, PR negative and HER-2 negative. Basal-like breast cancers are likely to benefit from chemotherapy.

Posted by: Jane, Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 7:41pm; Reply: 104
I'm so happy for you that everything turned out so well and that you are feeling well.  Looking forward to hearing what Dr. D recommends for you too.
Posted by: Tami, Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 1:33pm; Reply: 105
Very informative.
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 3:19pm; Reply: 106
Tami I will take to the doctors ..

Thanks for all well wishers..

Posted by: Tami, Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 4:36pm; Reply: 107
Thats the best plan (:

I like that we can share, and still ask our doctors. If they tell me no, I always ask for their resoning and do my own research and asking about the issues (my issue wasnt cancer). Ive had tragic things happen because a doctor didnt do the right things (in my opinion), so when things make so much sense to me, and they tell me no, I make sure that they are not wrong.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, October 16, 2013, 5:45pm; Reply: 108
sorry must correct... until now we don't have a true medication leading to apoptose of ca- cells... ... but in the natural envirenements... ther's something great called salvestroles, who does exactly what all chemos do promote but none of those ever were able to come along with truth!
Dito the herceptin blas and whatever... all fake...all fake... and it is also known that nearly all studies were faked as well!
I'm ready today to come along in big quarrels with all those liars and quacks and whatever... it is not us the one who are cheating... it's biig pharma who earns milliards of US dollars with the health of women!!!

And what else... the whole public nearly believes all they got served by those... ha-ha-haa! That nearly drives me nuts, dito how things were faked and turned into the direction of helping etc... sorry all dearles... I was convinced that those docs called oncologues... I alsways call them.... doesn't matter ;) ;D...
also made the edict of no harms to anybody... but they do nothing else in the name of money to enrich themselfs...and nothing else!

When I observe here those with 5-10 peeps daily receiving any chemical treatment
x6 days a week... one treatment is about between 20 and 120'000 swiss Francs, so please don't hurry in understanding why they need to kill you!  This became a sort of system and sorry this is truth as also once mentioned and prooved by the so called *health ranger Mike Adams* and he knew why he left USA to come along with truth and stories written from victims....and hey... aren't you awaking with those
situations??) since when do you give up your own life and will follow mortal advices??)... :-/ :o :P
Ok.. we need to talk also about psyche patterns here... if not nothing can be understood by those criminals working with our fears and manipulating peeps until they're going to give up their own responsability for their own lifes...dito do we need to talk about society which still is not able to make  a choice for life instead against life!
Chloe, sorry to interrupt your beautiful speech, but here I am totally contra...coz once understood how our metabolisme work and how life energy is working on and in our bodies... sorry sorry here the thema is different and genes are driven by our brains and also by external is all about electricity, energies and matrix reg. and also about fragmental thoughts of the so called allopathic medicine... :-/
as long those give a try to close up a living system... by whatever they try to sell us for truth and verity in so called *beliefsystem of a- and pre-sumptions*
sorry here big danger is to be expected...

and your last sentence is nearly the hell for my opinion.... how blind can someone be??) !!!!

This isn't meant to whatever....blaming,hurtung bla-bla-bla... but I must admit that
my education of quantum phyics never ever will correlate with murder!(shrug)(unhappy)(angry)(dead) nor will I ever admit any situation to make money of the
purpose of my clients in a sort of explotation what is the case of allopathic docs.
My moto ever will be: la chaim! and welcome truth and no lies!
Thus helped  a lot of my clients to survive in communications...all those were told:  ok some weeks...months to live... I can tell you today that nearly all of those survived... but not my own compagnon coz his choice for chemoth. was asking for his life last year !
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 17, 2013, 10:33pm; Reply: 109
salvestroles  I am looking at learning from your posts.. Thanks..    is a good read about what Amazone is talking about..

Amazone.. am I understanding that it is about food?? not a supplement.. Food ??

If it is food then it makes all the sense.. there are some foods that are allowed for all types.. easy to incorporate.  I do eliminate all the fruits always first, since I feel better with proteins.. but then I could easy add some extra fruits and vegetables in place of other foods.

I am trying to eat mushrooms, onions and asparagus on purpose once a week or more.  

I am on a (again) New Low Carb diet (under30) and indulge in a carb evening every 5th day, and I can add those things, all are low carb.  On the carb days I could add all the other stuff I miss and still make a smoothy with all the lovely's like a banana.  I have alway had difficulty on the 5th day of any diet, this one combines many features I can do.. like the carb night on the 5th day.. Time will tell..

At the very least so far I was able to reduce the diabetes numbers by 30 points.. that is at least something.

The good thing is that I could eat the foods as suggested in the website above..

Amazone is there any better reading? --- It is time I returned to all the rainbow foods listed in my SWAMI...          
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, October 20, 2013, 5:10pm; Reply: 110
Goldie, I think all about O'foods is retained in the little booklet of Dr. D's anticancer fights ;) ;D... but also can be seen and admitted with a part of the Dr. Budwig diet...and all about supps... all was mentioned here dito the the Dr. D's booklet for O's (and of course for all the other bt's ;-)
btw.. I think banana's are a true no-go for all nonnies in glycemic index thoughts ??) ;) :D... :X

what do you mean please with a *better reading* ??)... :o :-/ :B :B I know that my *ingggglish is still as bad as all about my very earliest beginnings on those *wholy boards* ;) ;D...(evil)(cool)(goofy)(funny)(shrug)
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