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Lloyd
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After the most recent update to my SWAMI this week I am now an Explorer.

Still a 'book' Hunter and the diet changes are not that large - many portions of food in categories changes but also some foods changes. There are a few diet adjustments to make. Looking forward to seeing what happens.

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welcome dearle   .......... I always suspected this.... but I think not really NFtype but merely no 1 in the enneagram... = ENTP/J...


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Lloyd
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Quoted from Amazone I.
I always suspected this.... but I think not really NFtype but merely no 1 in the enneagram... = ENTP/J...


More of an Explunter at the moment, but thanks!

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Quoted from Lloyd
After the most recent update to my SWAMI this week I am now an Explorer.

Still a 'book' Hunter and the diet changes are not that large - many portions of food in categories changes but also some foods changes. There are a few diet adjustments to make. Looking forward to seeing what happens.



Isn't that interesting! I should check if I've become a Gatherer like I was by the book originally, . I'm only after the cottage cheeseQ  

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Quoted from Lloyd
After the most recent update to my SWAMI this week I am now an Explorer.

Still a 'book' Hunter and the diet changes are not that large - many portions of food in categories changes but also some foods changes. There are a few diet adjustments to make. Looking forward to seeing what happens.

Wow. Massive change for you, Lloyd.
One wonders what would "update" a SWAMI to entirely change one's genotype.
I guess since you're into the science of it, that itself must fascinate you.
I confess to not understanding this stuff; tons of grey matter dedicated elsewhere.  


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Wow. Massive change for you, Lloyd.
One wonders what would "update" a SWAMI to entirely change one's genotype.


Not such a massive change. My GT4 and GT1 weights were always close. Some healing in one area made me slightly less like a GT1. The change in the label is a good representation of the change in healing focus to a different area.

So you might say my GT changed because it worked well enough.

The food ratings appear to be more than 90% unchanged, some of the changes are interesting.


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Not such a massive change. My GT4 and GT1 weights were always close. Some healing in one area made me slightly less like a GT1. The change in the label is a good representation of the change in healing focus to a different area.

So you might say my GT changed because it worked well enough.

The food ratings appear to be more than 90% unchanged, some of the changes are interesting.
What's a massive change is the difference between the two Genotypes according to the book, the Advanced Calculator being based upon immutable factors. Many even claim to have trouble executing the measurements, wanting to get the respective bone-lengths exactly right, etc. And even the people who do NOT use the Advanced Calculator, defining their fingerprint-shapes and skull-depth and stuff...
all that effort for nought when there's a "change in healing focus" and you're a different genotype, but whose bones and tastings and angles, etc. are unchangeable.

You do say your "book genotype" remains what it is, which I certainly understand.

Peter has claimed that SWAMI essentially DROPS the 6 obsolete genotype labels, but I learn that even its updates and various forms/formats continue to refer to them.

In any case, Lloyd, you're apparently feeling well, and SWAMI is somehow engaging with you to keep up the healing. Congratulations!  


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Quoted from Lloyd
After the most recent update to my SWAMI this week I am now an Explorer.

Still a 'book' Hunter and the diet changes are not that large - many portions of food in categories changes but also some foods changes. There are a few diet adjustments to make. Looking forward to seeing what happens.



Hee hee hee.....have fun learning how to "step out"...increase that stride.....  
Maybe allow yourself to bumble around a bit ...then you've got the more classic characteristics down pat...just takes some practise  


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Lloyd
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Peter has claimed that SWAMI essentially DROPS the 6 obsolete genotype labels, but I learn that even its updates and various forms/formats continue to refer to them.

In any case, Lloyd, you're apparently feeling well, and SWAMI is somehow engaging with you to keep up the healing. Congratulations!  


My feeling is that the labels are still given far too much weight by most.

While this is the largest change I have seen in diet since starting with BTD, my food lists are still recognizable as being for a type O. There is nothing A-like or B-like about the list.

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There are a few foods that went from neutral to superfood like snail and apple that I find pleasing. On the other hand I lose some varieties of fish to black-dot that I rarely ate anyhow - so no real change.  There are also a few changes to foods I would prefer weren't changed, but overall it is more a tweak than a change to my daily diet.




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Wow... glad to see this post.  I thought I was a Gatherer (from the book and kit)...  I went to the Center for Excellence and they determined that I was an Explorer (O+, non secretor).  I found this so hard to believe as I don't have the efficient body (never did) of the Explorer (mesomorph).  I have to say after following the diet since March of 2016 that I do feel better and have lost a small amount of weight.  I went off this past week and don't feel nearly as well.  Back on as of today.  Had asthma and the docs have me taking magnolia bark with great results... off my daily Advair and rescue inhaler, so that's great news.  Had a knee replacement with complications at the end of August that had put a huge damper on my exercise... just finished PT yesterday.  Still have pain and swelling, but I'm told it can take a year of healing.  I can work out to tolerance, which I intend to do.  Again, appreciate this post!
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Lloyd, what did you mean by, "most recent update to my SWAMI this week"?  Did the SWAMI software get updated? Or did you merely re-run the report?


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Lloyd, what did you mean by, "most recent update to my SWAMI this week"?  Did the SWAMI software get updated? Or did you merely re-run the report?


I have modified a few of my data inputs. One in particular was responsible for the change. (I no longer have white lines - which counts towards being a hunter but not an explorer.)
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Wow... glad to see this post.  I thought I was a Gatherer (from the book and kit)...  I went to the Center for Excellence and they determined that I was an Explorer (O+, non secretor).  I found this so hard to believe as I don't have the efficient body (never did) of the Explorer (mesomorph).  I have to say after following the diet since March of 2016 that I do feel better and have lost a small amount of weight.  I went off this past week and don't feel nearly as well.  Back on as of today.  Had asthma and the docs have me taking magnolia bark with great results... off my daily Advair and rescue inhaler, so that's great news.  Had a knee replacement with complications at the end of August that had put a huge damper on my exercise... just finished PT yesterday.  Still have pain and swelling, but I'm told it can take a year of healing.  I can work out to tolerance, which I intend to do.  Again, appreciate this post!


Glad things are working for you! Thanks for the note. Best wishes on the knee.

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My feeling is that the labels are still given far too much weight by most.

While this is the largest change I have seen in diet since starting with BTD, my food lists are still recognizable as being for a type O. There is nothing A-like or B-like about the list.

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There are a few foods that went from neutral to superfood like snail and apple that I find pleasing. On the other hand I lose some varieties of fish to black-dot that I rarely ate anyhow - so no real change.  There are also a few changes to foods I would prefer weren't changed, but overall it is more a tweak than a change to my daily diet.

Yes, it does appear to be a mild tweak; the change of "GenoType Title" is the biggest thing about it! Yet people (and many threads) will still distinguish between Hunter and Explorer and insist they have totally different "looks" or personalities. All because you clicked some one different data-box. Like, if your white lines fade, did your femur grow? Did you change careers or pastimes or favorite sports?  

I stressed the black-dot sentence because when a food goes Black Dot, you don't "lose" it. The black dot is Peter's way of saying, "This may not be the slam-dunk Bennie (or Neutral) you used to consider it; it's something you should test, just to be sure." Kind of like the Jury's out on it until you put it though some paces. "Keep your eye on this one" can indeed mean BE READY TO DROP IT, if necessary.  
What I've found about the black dots is that there tend to be little caveats about them, such as, "This is fine, but don't eat it too often" or "Though this is a fruit, treat it like a starch" or "Fine if the portion is small and accompanied by plenty of yaddayadda". I've actually "lost" very very few black dots, especially as I rotate my whole diet so much I might not see an ingredient more than once or twice a year anyway!


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All because you clicked some one different data-box. Like, if your white lines fade, did your femur grow? Did you change careers or pastimes or favorite sports?  

I stressed the black-dot sentence because when a food goes Black Dot, you don't "lose" it. The black dot is Peter's way of saying...


You can joke about it, but Dr. D wrote the two following tracts:

http://www.dadamo.com/txt/index.pl?1033
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Hunter dermatoglyphics (fingerprint patterns occurrence and distribution) show no strong associations, suggesting that this genotype is a product of vigorous and effective prenatal gestational processes, which is a reflection of their lack of thriftiness and ability to burn through calories at a prodigious rate. If you haven't been eating right for your GenoType, you'll probably have done some damage to the lining of your digestive tract and having worn fingerprints with lots of white lines will let you know that's the case.

In other words, when you can make a decent fingerprint, you can make a decent lining for your gut as well. Perhaps no surprise, white lines have been linked to celiac disease, a condition of gluten sensitivity.


http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/2010/10/03/fingerprint-white-lines-and-gluten/
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White lines and celiac disease
Typically, the number of white lines increases with age and with subsequent deterioration of gut integrity. Research dating back to the early 1970’s has linked the appearance of white lines to adults who suffer with celiac disease. (2-6) Ridge height is the only aspect of fingerprints that can actually change with health status. Most interestingly, these white lines often improve with the maintenance of a gluten free diet, and researchers suggest that improvements to ridge height and disappearance of white lines could be used as an indicator of the patient’s response to diet therapy, although complete improvement of the fingerprints could often take as long as two years.


Took me a lot more than two years.


And of course, thank you for once again for outlining your personal understanding of the black-dot.  


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Hi, Lloyd. Yes, I've congratulated you your achievement and do not belittle your white-line rescension or require an explanation as to their significance.
(If there's a "joke", it's one you surely agree with - viz., that the label-change doesn't really change your Genotype, but rather toggles a switch in SWAMI that yadayada...)
Of course your reactive worldview doesn't change because of white lines...and both Hunter and Explorer are "inflammatory" "reactive" in that department - no change there, either.

And you're very welcome, re the explanation re Black Dots. Anytime.  

One thing to note re white lines (found in some Hunters and Nomads): Since they are not universal to these genotypes, i.e., there are Hunters without white lines, and there are Nomads without white lines:
Being a Hunter (or Nomad) is not contingent upon having white lines. So the disappearance of one's white lines should not -in and of itself- render that person no longer a Hunter or Nomad. One simply becomes one of those Hunters (or Nomads) who doesn't have white lines!
Said another way: Hunter is not a "People with Celiac Disease and White Lines" category that you can escape by healing your Celiac disease.


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So the disappearance of one's white lines should not -in and of itself- render that person no longer a Hunter or Nomad. One simply becomes one of those Hunters (or Nomads) who doesn't have white lines!
Said another way: Hunter is not a "People with Celiac Disease and White Lines" category that you can escape by healing your Celiac disease.


Arguing with Dr. D again?

By the advanced tables in the book - white lines don't matter.

By SWAMI, all the additional history and metrics count too. One is not a Hunter simply because they meet the criteria of the advanced tables, nor is one not a hunter because they don't perfectly match those criteria. When all the factors are added up it turns out that the presence or absence of a single factor in the weighting can change the label in cases where the decision between two GT's is very close.

Of course if one is strongly a GT1 by other factors, the absence of white lines does not change the GT for a Hunter to something else.

When all the factors are weighed white lines are as significant in the 'point count' as many other factors. And in some cases the MBTI score can change a GT. I can almost hear you say that the mood you were in when you took a written test should not affect your GT, but then well - there you go. That's SWAMI. Does not happen often - but it can happen.

So it gets back to what is the value of the label? There is something there - in a fairly general way. Kind of like dividing the population into a pie with 6 pieces.

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