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Mrs T O+
Saturday, December 24, 2016, 3:04pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Can some of you give a quick tutorial about RYR? I got a free bottle, Natures Bounty brand, 600 mg. it suggests you take CoQ10 with it. The dosage is 2 capsules once or twice a day, but no more than 4 a day. If I would try it, I would just take one once in a while unless there is some reason to take it for some condition.
Wikipedia is negative about it from a quick reading.  
I have heard great things about it, but don't remember. I would think if it is a regular brand (with the FDA breathing down their back), it would be pure and safe.
Any info, friends?  


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Red Yeast Rice is a natural source of statin. When statin is extracted from RYR it is called lovastatin, and sold as  Mevacor.  Mevacor requires a prescription and must be taken under a doctors supervision.  The same should probably be the case for the Red Yeast Rice. But attempts to classify red yeast rice as a drug instead of a supplement has failed.

So it is available without a prescription for whoever wants to dose themselves with statin.  Has essentially the same benefits and side effects of taking statin drugs.

If you want to bring down cholesterol numbers it is considered to be effective.  Long term use would have similar issue as statin drugs.

If you want to try it, some short term side effects you should be alert for:

Headache.
Stomachache or bloating.
Gas.
Dizziness.
Heartburn.
Muscle aches and weakness.


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Quoted Text
'Powerful statins could increase the risk diabetes by 22% compared with weaker statin drugs.'

COMMENT: makes the red yeast rice derivatives even more appealing.. besides the fact that they are weaker statins, they contain a mosaic of active components, many of which cannot be profitably synthesized by Pharma. No matter what, if you take a statin, invest in some co-enzyme Q10.
Some statins 'raise diabetes risk'
http://www.bbc.co.uk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22636666


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Statins lower blood cholesterol levels.  They are NOT to be taken once in a while, because they do nothing that way.  They should be taken regularly every day and results dont' show up in blood tests usually for at least a month or two.

My hubby takes red yeast rice, but a better brand than the Nature's Bounty "supermarket vitamins" and  yes, we take CoQ10 except that when you are over 60 (or more like 80, in our case) you don't absorb the CoQ10 well, so I buy Ubiquinol which is highly absorbable and costs over twice as much.  Our doctor had my hubby on Rx statins and the red yeast rice does every bit as good a job for him without the junk they include in prescriptions.  Yes, hubby has regular blood tests to watch for liver side effects.  He is 85 and in excellent health....except for that silly  cholesterol which gets way high if he does not take any statins at all.  He had a minor stroke a few years ago so we stay with the statins for him.  

As with everything else, we all must make our own informed choices.  


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I don't have a cholesterol problem. Sure, it's a little higher tha years ago as I don't walk as much and am less active in general. I thought RYR was supposed to be a general healthy supplement, so am learning that it is something else!  Since I have this bottle of it, is it OK to take one once in a while or should I give it to someone?


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PS This  is another reason I hate to lose this forum. I can ask various questions to a group of folks I trust and get different helpful answers.


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I would give Red Yeast Rice to someone else.

I did get a bottle a few years ago for some reason.

I do not recall why I got it. Probably a free sample with other supplements.  

I thought it must be to good to waste.  So I took some of it.  I quit, because I thought it gave me headaches.  I waited and tried again. Still did not feel good with it.

Now I had an open jar of something  that I thought was too good to waste,
but could not strongly recommend to others since it made me feel awful.

Eventually I found someone that was prescribed statins by a doctor,
but had stopped taking them because they made her feel bad.

So I convinced her of the wonders of this natural substitute for the prescription drug that caused her problems.  She took
it for a bit and said it made her feel just like the prescription statin.

She stopped taking it and I thought she was now stuck with the partially consumed bottle of Red Yeast Rice.

But somehow she got the bottle back to me.

I think that I composted the pills and recycled the bottle.


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
I got a free bottle... If I would try it, I would just take one once in a while unless there is some reason to take it for some condition...I have heard great things about it, but don't remember. I would think if it is a regular brand (with the FDA breathing down their back), it would be pure and safe. Any info, friends?  

Really?
What would you do if you found a free vial of, oh, Penicillin?
(I have a feeling you're putting us on, but one can never be sure; many's the time I miss the joke.)



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There are some supplements that I don't *need* but aren't harmful and I might use if I got a free bottle.  Say, a greens powder that didn't have any avoids in it, or some kind of berry/antioxidant.

I don't think it's crazy to ask about this supplement before tossing it or trying to give it away. Personally, I'd offer it for free on Freecycle or a local "buy and sell facebook group" because there might be somebody who DOES need this potent supplement and would appreciate a free bottle.


Ruth, Single Mother to 22 yo  O- Leah , 20 yo O- Hannah, and  15 yo B+ Jack


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Thanks, all! I was under the impression that it was a general supplement like a greens thing or some milder detox herb.


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My main concern would be liver damage.
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Study of reactions to supplements containing Red Yeast Rice:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bcp.13171/


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