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deblynn3
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For those who have filled in this information,  My Mitochondrial DNA was T1a1, (northern Europe) So I clicked T (descendants of R)  I would have really liked the health geno information, but non of that is given now, thanks to the FDA. Still for my swamiX  just this made a large difference on my food list. Most notably the Carbs and Live Foods.  Many have been commenting that they do best without carbs, I lost 1/3 of the carbs list, even all rice moved to neutral (basmati, rice brand, puffed or rice cakes) all other rice moved to black dot. The only two grains which I could get easily here are Quinoa and Taro. Thought this might be of interest to some.


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For those who have filled in this information,  My Mitochondrial DNA was T1a1, (northern Europe) So I clicked T (descendants of R)  I would have really liked the health geno information, but non of that is given now, thanks to the FDA. Still for my swamiX  just this made a large difference on my food list. Most notably the Carbs and Live Foods.  Many have been commenting that they do best without carbs, I lost 1/3 of the carbs list, even all rice moved to neutral (basmati, rice brand, puffed or rice cakes) all other rice moved to black dot. The only two grains which I could get easily here are Quinoa and Taro. Thought this might be of interest to some.


deblynn3, my father is R, so I wonder how that will affect my food list as well.

Remember, you can run your information through promethius to get the health information if you want it, according to C Sharp.  Do you have a male relative who can provide your Y-chromosome DNA?


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I can't find any information to run through anywhere, for that I'm disappointed but, I paid $69 for the sec test it now 99 so just getting the info for the swamix is within reason. I will add my dad's once he sends it off. My sister who wanted him to do it, thinks she should be here. (late sept. she will be here)  She very controlling and I think she did the 23&me before they stopped the health information.  When he does it I will add it as well, but I'm are very high % of my mother, and the changes just feel right. It will be Oct before I will have his. Monday I will have the time to print out the changed info. and I might notice more at that time.

Ok, think I've found something, boy, there must be someway to make this info easier to find. Now tomorrow I'll see if it's useful


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Assuming that you 23 & Me rather than ancestry.com.

Click on your name at the top of the 23 & me web page (Your name will only be there after you login).

In the drop-down menu select "Browse raw data"

After selecting "Browse raw data" look for the download link near the top of the page on the right.

Once you have downloaded the raw data set you can do what you want with it.


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http://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Promethease

Sorry I spelled Promethease incorrectly above.  Maybe you don't need this at all from what C Sharp says.


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Thanks C-sharp I did find that, Guess I was just to tired to think clearly, they sent several complete notifications on the other, parts and I got confused.

On the 23&me it looks like all you can do is compare your genes with others, to fine what they mean for me I would still need to use the other site correct?

Patty H  I think I'm still going to need that program. I've got it in favorites and will read up on it tomorrow, study their vids.

I have to have a clear mind and I'm a bit foggy this week.


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For recent 23 & Me customers only ancestral information is given. You can search for values of specific SNPs that you might be interested in or you can transfer your raw data to other programs to identify health issues for you.  


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Thank you C Sharp, I'm  going to look into the Promethease program.  Don't really haven't anything specific. I was surprised to see some of the changes in my swamix, just by adding the mitochondrial info.


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there's also genetic genie…a similar site.
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I added my Y-DNA last week and as best I can tell, it didn't result in any changes.  I may look at each section line by line, but haven't had time to do more than check major things.  My mitochondrial DNA did result in some fairly big changes.
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jayneeo I will look into genetic genie, thanks, I will check both out and see which will work best for me.

cindyt interesting to know, I've already got the kit and since my sister is interested in his info I hope I can get him to fill and send. (I've already paid for the kit   )  
I'm going to start my New SwamiX tomorrow, hoping for a fresh start and renew energy.  
Thanks


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cindyt interesting to know, I've already got the kit and since my sister is interested in his info I hope I can get him to fill and send. (I've already paid for the kit   )  


I don't have any close male relatives on my father's side, but I found a distant cousin descended from the same ancestor through my genealogy research and got the Y-DNA from him.
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I don't have any close male relatives on my father's side, but I found a distant cousin descended from the same ancestor through my genealogy research and got the Y-DNA from him.


That's great!  I always assumed it had to be a close male relative like a father or brother.  Glad you were able to get the information.


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That is great and the first I knew you could use a cousin. I'm happy that my dad (84 next month) is still active and I think he will get the spit done while my sister is here at the end of next month. My brother who is really into the ancestral info wouldn't, go figure  

I'm not expecting many changes with the Y-DNA, but one never knows.


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deblynn,
My dad just turned 84 this June and has always been very active. He was diagnosed with Parkinsons disease about 10 years ago and probably had it much longer. It is finally taking its toll as my dad cannot play golf anymore and fishing is becoming difficult. It is so sad to witness this man, who loves music and dancing, several sports, anything to do with history and government, adores and studies good wine...slow down so much. He doesn't complain, though!
I am anxious for him to send his in so I will finally know my Y- DNA and see about my chances of Parkinsons...
When you get some time to play around with your results and search all of the sections you will find much info!!! I enjoy the chromosome map.


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Hello All

It's been a long time since I've been on the message boards. My sister bought me a 23andme kit so I added it to my SwamiXP. WOW! It gave me dairy! Lots of diary! And lots of other goodies too! Woot Woot! Almost everything on the list now fits my taste buds. I am looking forward to trying this new list. BTW - I am U5a1a and am absolutely clueless about it.


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How much dairy are we talking about, slyparrot? Very curious to know since I tolerate dairy very, very well and from what I've read about U5a1a, it's a lot like my background (I'm also an explorer super-taster).

Would love to do 23andme, but cannot afford anything right now!




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When I added my U5b2b it gave me a lot of cow's milk cheeses, including in the genoharmonic food combinations.  I tried eating some of the cheeses, and while it was great to eat them again, they caused some GI upset.  So I gave them up again.  
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It gave me Ghee, Manchego, Parmesan, Pecorino, and Romano for Bennies.

Butter, Colby, Edam, Emmenthal, Gouda, Gruyere, Jarlsberg, Kefalotyri, Muenster, Quark and Romanian for neutrals.

The Parmesan scares me as it has been a suspect migraine trigger in the past. I will slowly proceed with caution.

Will the list change again with the MN blood group and Lewis blood group info? I don't even know how to get it tested. I didn't see it on the Promethease report.


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Wow, that is a lot of cheese! Are you part Scandanavian?




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Only 0.4% Scandinavian. - Do I still get some cheese?? Haha

99.8% European / Northern European

56.8% British & Irish
17.4% - French & German
0.4% - Scandinavian
24.4% - Broadly Northern European
0.8% - Broadly European
0.1% - Sub-Saharan African / 0.1% - West African
0.1% - Middle Eastern & North African / 0.1% - North African
< 0.1% - East Asian & Native American / < 0.1% - Broadly East Asian & Native American
< 0.1% - Unassigned


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Will the list change again with the MN blood group and Lewis blood group info?


You can run SWAMI with different setting to find out.

As I recall MN can make slight changes. Lewis can make significant changes if secretor status was not populated before. If Lewis aligns with a previous secretor value, the SWAMI lists do not change much.

Both Lewis and MN can be determined with a blood test.

To determine probable Lewis with 23 & Me data look for FUT2 related SNPs or norovirus susceptibility.

To work on MNS issues you would look at SNPs related to GYPA and GYPB and possibly GYPE.

Most traits are not determined by a single SNP so you need to look at a number of locations to determine what trait would be expressed.  23 & Me only examines a small percentage of nucleotide locations, so all the necessary locations to determine a trait will likely not be in the 23 & Me data.


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Slyparrot,

Wow, you get way more cheese than I do!
I get ghee and manchego as supers but romano and parmesan are neutrals.
Try grating the freshest parmesan (don't buy pre-shredded) and see if it helps with the headaches.   There are coating agents on shredded cheese.

Just keep playing around with the 23andME site. I have had mine for several months and am still finding new things!


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That's really cool.

I would love to find out this stuff. I've always felt so guilty eating cheese as an O, but I crave it, and it doesn't make me gain weight or anything bad, except for Parmesan like you said.

I have a lot of Northern European ancestry (Irish, Scottish, German, Danish), except for part of my dad's background, which is western Austrian (high up in the Alps, where they also eat a lot of cheese).




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