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eva b.
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Can anyone suggest a substitute for breads or - specifically crackers or crispbreads - for a type O secretor which do not contain other non BTD ingredients?

I am having a lot of trouble with finding anything which doesn't contain cornstarch, which is of course forbidden on the BTD - which otherwise works for me very well.

I have tried rice cakes as  replacement, particularaly at breakfast time, but these seem to cause me problems with passing through my digestive system ie they DON'T,
for some reason causing constipation.

I have very slow small intestine function (visceral neuropathy)so eery goes very slowly.

I have found, to date, that Ryvita (rye crackers) at least make things go through and I am able to open my bowels, but even though rye flour seems to be OK on the BTD list, I am starting to suspect that I have a problem with it because of the gluten.

thanks for any suggestions

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Have you tried Mary's  Gone Crackers?


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Hello Ruthie - lovely to hear from you, you're always one of the first to reply

No I haven't...don't know if they're available in the UK but will have a look.

I was also going to add a P.S. to my original post.
I was prescribed, some time ago, a liquid meal replacement - Fresubin   energy drink - which on the face of it contains all sorts of not OK ingredients - maltodextrin, milk protein, vegetable oils, soya lecithin and some other flavourings, but which labels itself as lactose and gluten free?  I don't quite understand how they achieve this, but wonder if I should go back to taking some because at the moment I'm losing weight and becoming fairly malnourished,.
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Hello Ruthie - lovely to hear from you, you're always one of the first to reply

No I haven't...don't know if they're available in the UK but will have a look.

I was also going to add a P.S. to my original post.
I was prescribed, some time ago, a liquid meal replacement - Fresubin   energy drink - which on the face of it contains all sorts of not OK ingredients - maltodextrin, milk protein, vegetable oils, soya lecithin and some other flavourings, but which labels itself as lactose and gluten free?  I don't quite understand how they achieve this, but wonder if I should go back to taking some because at the moment I'm losing weight and becoming fairly malnourished,.
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It's gluten free because it contains dextrose (vegetable sugar- probably from corn) and no gluten (a specific protein found in wheat, spelt, rye, and barley.) It's lactose free because it contains no lactose (milk sugar) even though it contains milk protein.

Before trying that avoid-filled supplement, I would try to increase quantities of compliant foods. Why do you need a cracker or bread at all? Why not eat cooked rice or quinoa? Are you eating enough fats and proteins? If you need more carbs to gain weight, try to get them from compliant grains as well as from fruits and vegetables.

I would only consider the avoid-laden supplement if nothing else is working, or if you're in an acute situation and need more calories NOW, before you experiment and make healthier long-term changes.


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almond meal crackers= 2cups almond meal, 1 T olive oil, 2 T water,  1 tsp sea salt and herbs of choice. (I love oregano or rosemary) Blend oil and water, add to almond meal,  sea salt and herbs. They taste like wheat thins but are grain, gluten and egg free. Bake 350 for 12  min or until edges are lightly browned.

Pesto Spinach Bread

Ingredients:
Five large eggs
16 oz frozen spinach, thawed, cut, and drained
Butter (I used raw pastured-raised)
1/2 cup pine nuts
3 cloves crushed garlic
Small bunch of basil (about 15 leaves)
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Method:
Preheat the oven to 400 degrees Fahrenheit.

Grease your glass baking dish with butter. I used a circular pan about 8 inches in diameter.
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Toast your pine nuts in a sautee pan with about a tablespoon of butter. Be very careful! Pine nuts burn easily. Watch them like a hawk and stir constantly. When they start to turn golden brown, they’re done and on the verge of burning.
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Chop the nuts up in a food processor (or crush them to a similarly fine texture if you don’t have a processor) and mince your basil.

Mix your eggs, garlic, basil, nuts, and spinach together in a mixing bowl. Add some salt and freshly ground pepper to taste.
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Once it’s all mixed together, pour it evenly into your greased pan.
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Pop it in the oven for about 15 minutes, or until it has set.
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Slice and enjoy as if it were bread, or all by itself!

Nutrition Analysis:
Calories: 1080
Fat: 91 grams (72% calories from fat)
Carbs: 27.6 grams (10% calories from carbs, 12.7 grams from fiber)
Protein: 54 grams (18% calories from protein)


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I buy “Back to Nature” rice crackers and "Alvarado Street Bakery" sprouted flax seed bread.  You’ll have to just experiment to find one you like as my products may not be available in your area.  Good Luck


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thanks, Mother and naturegyrl for your suggestions.
Yes, it is difficult here to get some of the products you have in the USA.

Ruthie - as I said to you, rice is also difficult for me to process...for some reason, it seems to slow digestion, as I mentioned regarding the rice cracker.
Don't understand why - its odd, they always worked for me before.
Perhaps I will try again and see what happens.

anyway, all of you, replies much appreciated.
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I never really look for gluten free as I do not have a problem, but Yesterday I was at farmers market where they had fresh bakery smell foods.. and I was hungry, I found a gluten free place that sold muffins made with coconut flour... I loved them and found that I felt wonderful.  They did not sit like wheat ever would.. worth a try for some who can eat coconut..

I never heard of coconut flour.. does it come from pressed coconut / oil removed?  NO idea..


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Coconut flour is basically unsweetened coconut flakes, but much more finely ground. It has the same rating as coconut milk/meat. It's an avoid for me as per SWAMI, but I've never noticed a problem when I ate it. I have coconut products for the occasional treat, but I don't consume it regularly.


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Quoted from eva b.
Hello Ruthie - lovely to hear from you, you're always one of the first to reply

No I haven't...don't know if they're available in the UK but will have a look.

I was also going to add a P.S. to my original post.
I was prescribed, some time ago, a liquid meal replacement - Fresubin   energy drink - which on the face of it contains all sorts of not OK ingredients - maltodextrin, milk protein, vegetable oils, soya lecithin and some other flavourings, but which labels itself as lactose and gluten free?  I don't quite understand how they achieve this, but wonder if I should go back to taking some because at the moment I'm losing weight and becoming fairly malnourished,.


Hi Eva b.- I am an A who doesn't have the same issues that you do, but I wanted to share a protein powder that I recently discovered. It is Garden of Life Raw Protein. You might want to check it out. It is vegan, gluten free and dairy free. It is made from organic sprouts. I drink it after I work out. It tastes wonderful! I make a smoothie with the protein, greek yogurt and almond milk. That gives me 40 grams of protein that I easily digest along with probiotics. Maybe it is something that will help you.
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those puffed rice cakes are so blown up that I can understand them not moving thru properly…they are far from whole grain state. But Mary's gone crackers work great for me….highly recommend. They will gt you thru a party…..or a snack attack. good with ghee, almond butter, goat cheese, etc.
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I like the Mary's Gone Crackers too.  Not sure if they are available across the Pond though.
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Quoted from eva b.
Can anyone suggest a substitute for breads or - specifically crackers or crispbreads - for a type O secretor which do not contain other non BTD ingredients?


Simple recipe.  Dump 1/4 c. Acceptable flour into bowl.
Sprinkle a little salt to taste.
Add just a dusting of baking soda.
Finish by stirring in just enough water to make a pliable dough.

Oven 350 degrees. Roll or pat out real thin.  I use a pizza pan that has been oiled.
You can then run a knife through it creating little squares or leave whole.
Bake until crisp.  (Could be as little as 7 minutes so watch your oven carefully.  Voila!  Fresh and compliant!


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Or try some grain-free meals. I never have grains with breakfast, rarely have them with lunch, but usually do have them with dinner (the days I skip are when I've had them at lunchtime.)


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Marys Gone Crackers was my salvation...literally....when I began this ER4YT I was consuming 2 slices of artisan (Pain pascal) organic wheat toast every morning...talk about a bread-a-holic.
I also ate French, Italian, squaw, hawaian  and sourdough breads and flour tortillas all the time! Needless to say, I had to stop cold turkey and went through such bread cravings I thought I would faint!!! My stomach hurt and I couldn't stop thinking about how hungry I was and all I wanted was bread!!!!
Someone suggested rice crackers so I searched all the health food stores and found Marys Gone Crackers box of wonderfulness! That was years ago and I also now eat her sea salt "twigs and sticks" or pretzels. The packaging has changed over the years but good ingredients remain. There was an interesting article about her (there is a real Mary) about a year ago; she had to go gluten free for her health and came up with the recipe! vegan,nonGMO,organic,kosher,dairy free,gluten free....yummy brown rice, flax seeds, quinoa and sesame seeds
I hope you can find or order them in England!
http://www.marysgonecrackers.com/mary's.blog


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The Plain Unsalted variety of Edward and Sons brown rice snaps are crackers that contain only rice:
http://www.edwardandsons.com/es_shop_snaps.itml


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Here's something I posted about on another thread this past Spring and before.
The only alteration I'd make is that the nuts are almonds, not walnuts.

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The store was feature-sampling a cranberry-walnut paste "cake" (a dense, hard brick of fruit-leather, so to speak, that you can slice thin), so I picked up a piece and used it as a foil for the Saint-Agur.
Out. Of. This. World.

Just yesterday afternoon I was advising a Cheese employee at Whole Foods to suggest this Cranberry Cake, sliced very thin, as a cheese surface, as so many customers today are trying to avoid bread and crackers, which cuts heavily into the cheese-serving community.


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I've researched the Mary's gone crackers - unfortunately they are not freely available in the UK - although can be ordered through amazon....but the PRICE!
not something that could be used very frequently.  
What a shame.....don't know what to do now.

Ruthie, your suggestions are good, as always, but at present I just don't doo much cooking so don't really have leftovers to eat in the morning.  Besides which I don't have a proper oven...only a microwave, which I try to avoid.
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Rice crackers can also be made at home....


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Rice crackers can also be made at home....


How do you do make it. Recipe? Thank you!!!


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I have this one.  I don't remember from where I copied it.  I've not tried it yet.

Brown Rice Crackers
1 ½ cups brown rice flour
2/3 cup cooked brown rice
1 tablespoons flax seeds (optional)
¼ teaspoon sea salt
¼ cup oil (coconut, safflower, olive, etc.)
1/3 to ½ cup water

Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Lightly oil large baking sheet. In bowl or food processor, mix flour, rice, flax seeds, salt, and oil until combined. Add water a little at a time until dough holds together. Pour onto floured surface and knead a few times to form a ball. Press or roll dough on baking sheet. Score into 1 1/2-inch squares. Bake 20 to 25 minutes, or until bottoms are golden brown. Cool before removing from pan.

If you try it, please report back on how it turned out.
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If you don't have an oven, then I don't see how you can make your own crackers. At one point, I lived in a studio apartment and did a lot of baking in my toaster oven. I would literally bake muffins daily, 6 at a time since that's what fit in my toaster oven.

Besides the microwave, what do you have for cooking with? Do you have one or two burners and some pots? A toaster oven? Or JUST the microwave?


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