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alexandrasandra
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Hello everyone!

I have a question - why for Nomad in GTD - beet is beneficial (very beneficial, promotes weight loss) and beet juice is avoid?

For blood B beet is also beneficial,


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if devoid of fiber when juicing.....sugar content is significant for your metabolism

use common sense when creating your menu plans


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Hello everyone!

I have a question - why for Nomad in GTD - beet is beneficial (very beneficial, promotes weight loss) and beet juice is avoid?

For blood B beet is also beneficial,


Thanks for help !

if devoid of fiber when juicing.....sugar content is significant for your metabolism

use common sense when creating your menu plans

This is the type of question that arises here every day, among sensible people.
alexandrasandra's Menus might be similarly sensible, and, to keep them so, she is asking an excellent question, no?


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yes, juicing elevates the sugar content in high sugary fruits and veggies

choose other less sweet veggies when juicing.....like celery, kale, spinach, rutabaga  and and and......

fiber is important to help metabolize, as well as good fat


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Quoted from Lola
if devoid of fiber when juicing.....sugar content is significant for your metabolism

use common sense when creating your menu plans


But eating beets, whole, we have fiber + all the juice, which is in beets.
Since this juice in beet is avoid, why in general the whole beet promotes weight loss ...

Or maybe it's because pasteurization? When maybe heated vegetables lost property. Strange that juice isn't neutral, but avoid ...

I just wonder what is so wrong in beet juice, what is avoid in the beet-juice.

This contradicts with my logic.
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I think it is because it affects your blood sugar more than the whole beet.
When you have the fibres in the whole beet it slow down the effect on blood sugar.

But remember the GTD Nomad is a mix between AB and B´s - so sometimes when one gets your personal swami an avoid can become superfood or even diamond.

For me beet juice is superfood and at the moment I enjoy it a lot mixed with carrots, apples and ginger. I make it myself.


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But eating beets, whole, we have fiber + all the juice, which is in beets.
Since this juice in beet is avoid, why in general the whole beet promotes weight loss ...

Or maybe it's because pasteurization? When maybe heated vegetables lost property. Strange that juice isn't neutral, but avoid ...

I just wonder what is so wrong in beet juice, what is avoid in the beet-juice.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the beet juice other than when the fiber is taken away, maybe the juice is absorbed too rapidly and causes too much reaction.  It needs the fiber to slow digestion and absorption so it doesn't spike a reaction, but rather allows the reaction to occur over a longer period.

Since there is no different rating for cooked or raw, I doubt there is a significant difference...


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I think it is because it affects your blood sugar more than the whole beet.
When you have the fibres in the whole beet it slow down the effect on blood sugar.

But remember the GTD Nomad is a mix between AB and B´s - so sometimes when one gets your personal swami an avoid can become superfood or even diamond.

For me beet juice is superfood and at the moment I enjoy it a lot mixed with carrots, apples and ginger. I make it myself.



Thank You Henriette for the explanation,

I also like the beet juice mixed with other vegetables, but in the book GTD beet-juice is avoid. And this is a surprise. Avoid means bad, that I shoulnd't eat/drink this.

The most I don't know how to treat dairy - I like the most goat's milk and cow's milk without lactose. Since I read that for Nomad it is avoid, I don't drink milk and I drink rice milk for it, but it's not the same ...  
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the beet juice other than when the fiber is taken away, maybe the juice is absorbed too rapidly and causes too much reaction.  It needs the fiber to slow digestion and absorption so it doesn't spike a reaction, but rather allows the reaction to occur over a longer period.

Since there is no different rating for cooked or raw, I doubt there is a significant difference...


Well, if it is so, why beet is beneficial (promotes weight loss) and the juice AVOID?
Avoid Means that I shouldn't drink this juice.
It's like tomato juice for me, also avoid.
And tomato juice have fiber ...
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Regarding the milk in the GTD book for nomads
- I think it is because Nomad can both be AB and B
ABs have a much more restricted dairy so do some B non- secretors.
I have don´t recall reading about ANY B sec/ nomad who didn´t get dairy back in some form - either lucky ones like me who have it as superfood or just neutral.

Personally I am not really a fan of GTD-book- I think it gave me more weird questions and upsets- while the swami gave me a deeply personal diet that I could connect with.


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Well, if it is so, why beet is beneficial (promotes weight loss) and the juice AVOID?

Avoid Means that I shouldn't drink this juice.
It's like tomato juice for me, also avoid.
And tomato juice have fiber ...

The beet juice without the fiber is an avoid, but the whole beet (the juice and the fiber) is beneficial.  The difference in the rating HAS to be the difference in the form of the food.

The same reasoning may not apply to all different foods, however.  The makeup of the other food may have a totally different component(s) that is(are) making some part of it beneficial or avoid.


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Regarding the milk in the GTD book for nomads
- I think it is because Nomad can both be AB and B
ABs have a much more restricted dairy so do some B non- secretors.
I have don´t recall reading about ANY B sec/ nomad who didn´t get dairy back in some form - either lucky ones like me who have it as superfood or just neutral.

Personally I am not really a fan of GTD-book- I think it gave me more weird questions and upsets- while the swami gave me a deeply personal diet that I could connect with.


Thank You for answer,
I think You are right. I'm not a fan of GTD-book also. Because I just wonder why the Author didn't write a separate diet for Nomad - blood group B, Nomad - blood group AB, etc. The same with others genotypes.
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The beet juice without the fiber is an avoid, but the whole beet (the juice and the fiber) is beneficial.  The difference in the rating HAS to be the difference in the form of the food.

The same reasoning may not apply to all different foods, however.  The makeup of the other food may have a totally different component(s) that is(are) making some part of it beneficial or avoid.


Thank you for your answer, I agree.

I just wondered because in blood group diet the Author often says that they are beneficial juices "of beneficial vegetables", etc.
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I'm not a fan of GTD-book also. Because I just wonder why the Author didn't write a separate diet for Nomad - blood group B, Nomad - blood group AB, etc. The same with others genotypes.

This is not possible within the confines of the book - it would have gotten too big and the publisher would have balked.  The book is the introduction of the concept with basic diets.

SWAMI provides not only your Genotype per blood type, but also many other data points as well.  It is much easier to process all of this data in software, rather than in printed look-up tables.


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I just wondered because in blood group diet the Author often says that they are beneficial juices "of beneficial vegetables", etc.

In many cases, the juice of beneficial foods is beneficial, but this, like most other "rules" in human life, does not apply to all things...


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This is not possible within the confines of the book - it would have gotten too big and the publisher would have balked.  The book is the introduction of the concept with basic diets.

SWAMI provides not only your Genotype per blood type, but also many other data points as well.  It is much easier to process all of this data in software, rather than in printed look-up tables.


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In many cases, the juice of beneficial foods is beneficial, but this, like most other "rules" in human life, does not apply to all things...


Ok, I understand. I just wanted make sure about beet juice.
I have beet juice - Rabenhorst, I like this juice, but now I don't drink this...



But I understand and I will not drink this juice  
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