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alexandrasandra
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Hello !

One question - If cabbage juice is beneficial for type B, is the sauerkraut juice also beneficial ?

I'm not sure how it is with pickled vegetables.

Thanks !
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Usually pickled vegetables are made with vinegar, which is the avoid for most of us.

Therefore is vinegar is used to make sauerkraut, I doubt its juice will be ok.
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Usually pickled vegetables are made with vinegar, which is the avoid for most of us.

Therefore is vinegar is used to make sauerkraut, I doubt its juice will be ok.


No no no, it's not pickled vegetables with vinegar.
I don't know how to explain it. I don't mind about vinegar.
I mean about natural sour, acidified...
When You take cucumbers, and pour boiling water into the jar with fennel, allspice  etc., after 3-4 month You have acid-cucumbers.

With cabbage - this is normal cabbage which don't have vinegar.
This is chopped cabbage without vinegar, just acid-cabbage.

In shops I have many sauerkraft-juices and I don't know if it's beneficial for me...
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It can and is made without the vinegar but would will have to look for it. Or make your own, it's not that hard, filtered water, salt, lemon juice works well.  Look for a fermented veggie recipe here on this site. There is a long thread here that should be helpful


Sorry didn't see your last post, as long as there are no avoids it should be fine.

Sound like what you are calling pickled we call fermented


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One question - If cabbage juice is beneficial for type B, is the sauerkraut juice also beneficial ?


Here is the rating for sauerkraut:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?368

You can search the list of foods rated for the blood type diet for ratings here:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm


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Being a blood type A and Teacher on Swami, probiotic food such as sauerkraut, kefir and yogurt are not good for me other than supplement.
Any suggestion from food source?
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Quoted from alexandrasandra
Hello !

One question - If cabbage juice is beneficial for type B, is the sauerkraut juice also beneficial ?

I'm not sure how it is with pickled vegetables.

Thanks !

Foods do not always have the same rating when fermented that they do when unfermented.
Perfect example: Milk.



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Being a blood type A and Teacher on Swami, probiotic food such as sauerkraut, kefir and yogurt are not good for me other than supplement.
Any suggestion from food source?

If none of the probiotic foods are good for you, then you should focus on getting any supplemental probiotics from capsules.


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ABJoe, that is what I am doing now.
But I wish I have option from fermented vegetables such as kimchi that is fermented cabbage.




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ABJoe, that is what I am doing now.
But I wish I have option from fermented vegetables such as kimchi that is fermented cabbage.

In a long thread about fermentation some time ago, it was recommended that individuals ferment any Neutral or Beneficial vegetable to add probiotics to their diet...  This may work for you since none of the standard fermented foods are good for you...


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Being a blood type A and Teacher on Swami, probiotic food such as sauerkraut, kefir and yogurt are not good for me other than supplement.
Any suggestion from food source?


You can certainly ferment vegetables using sea salt. I'm thinking your SWAMI is referring to sauerkraut as a toxin, assuming it's made with vinegar.  And that cabbage may be an avoid.

But you can take shredded carrots, ginger, garlic, throw in a bowl with a sprinkling of sea salt...
squish your hands through the mixture for a few minutes until it gives off a lot of liquid....then
pack everything tightly into a big jar or clay crock....making sure you push the vegetables down low enough so
liquid rises to the top.  Leave very lightly covered on the counter for 3-4 days....and then
refrigerate.  You will then have cultured vegetables.  They contain natural probiotics.  You wouldn't have had to add vinegar or water....Just plain sea salt, the use of your hands and you
can pretty much do this with any vegetable that is compliant.  I've used broccoli, both grated
stems and flowerettes, onions, celery, leeks, scallions, shallots, radishes, peppers.  There are recipes all over the internet....just type in "Making cultured vegetables using only salt".  Check youtube.  Many videos with clear instructions there  as well.

It's not that you're not allowed to have natural foods with good bacteria, you're just not allowed
to have yogurt or cabbage fermented with vinegar.

My SWAMI is similar to yours in the respect that I can't have sauerkraut. (I can have yogurt, though) but I always make cultured veggies, no vinegar, using many different compliant veggies.

Buy the book Wild Fermentation if you want to read up on this subject. Or just watch the author's
videos on youtube.  His name is Sandor Katz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i77hU3zR-fQ

Also, Donna Gates is another wonderful resource to learn about cultured vegetables
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evno_Eiq1MQ

just leave out the cabbage and use a probiotic capsule if you like in your mixture.


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Here is the rating for sauerkraut:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?368

You can search the list of foods rated for the blood type diet for ratings here:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm



Thanks for this links !!! Very helpful !
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Foods do not always have the same rating when fermented that they do when unfermented.
Perfect example: Milk.



Yes, and now I have another problem - because I readed book "The Genotype Diet" and I think, I m The Nomad.

When I'm Nomad with group B, I can't drink milk, but Kefir I can...
But group B can drink milk... Hard to understand...  
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They contain natural probiotics.  You wouldn't have had to add vinegar or water....Just plain sea salt, the use of your hands and you
can pretty much do this with any vegetable that is compliant.


I am very surprised at all !!!

In my understanding of ensiling cabbage is just salt and cumin.
Nothing more.
That in Poland it does. There is no added vinegar! If the vinegar, it is no longer pickled, but pickled. Oh - my translator don't have english meaning... I mean "fermented". Yes. Fermented.
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Yes, and now I have another problem - because I readed book "The Genotype Diet" and I think, I m The Nomad.

When I'm Nomad with group B, I can't drink milk, but Kefir I can...
But group B can drink milk... Hard to understand...  


Don't confuse the Blood type diet with the Genotype Diet.  There is a test that points you in the
right direction as to which diet might be best for you.  This would be the best place to start.
Answer these questions....let us know which diet scores highest.  Then, we can help you
with specific food questions.

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm

Also this thread is worth reading.
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1221020395/



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Don't confuse the Blood type diet with the Genotype Diet.  There is a test that points you in the
right direction as to which diet might be best for you.  This would be the best place to start.
Answer these questions....let us know which diet scores highest.  Then, we can help you
with specific food questions.

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm

Also this thread is worth reading.
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1221020395/



Thank you very much for Your help!

I solved test, my score is:


" Your responses to the quiz seem to indicate that The GenoType Diet may be a good fit for you. However, the distinction was not very strong, so you may want to read about both books and see which feels like the better fit for you. To learn more about The GenoType Diet, click here. To learn more about the Blood Type Diet, click here. "

Well, The Genotype diet should be better...

//By the way, for almost all this questions I answered negatively, because in my family there wasn't never diabetes, never alzheimer's, never cancer, etc. Only hypertension and hemorrhagic stroke. I'm never sick, but I have frequent migraines. Many foods (90%) don't taste me and overall I think I'm hypersensitive (the weather is connected with my well-being, after coffee I had always great migraine all day, sometimes 2-3 days after one coffee - now I don't drink never coffee... brrrr). I'm almost never 100% satisfied, I'm picky and sensitive//.
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Thank you very much for Your help!

I solved test, my score is:


" Your responses to the quiz seem to indicate that The GenoType Diet may be a good fit for you. However, the distinction was not very strong, so you may want to read about both books and see which feels like the better fit for you. To learn more about The GenoType Diet, click here. To learn more about the Blood Type Diet, click here. "

Well, The Genotype diet should be better...

//By the way, for almost all this questions I answered negatively, because in my family there wasn't never diabetes, never alzheimer's, never cancer, etc. Only hypertension and hemorrhagic stroke. I'm never sick, but I have frequent migraines. Many foods (90%) don't taste me and overall I think I'm hypersensitive (the weather is connected with my well-being, after coffee I had always great migraine all day, sometimes 2-3 days after one coffee - now I don't drink never coffee... brrrr). I'm almost never 100% satisfied, I'm picky and sensitive//.


Good luck following the GTD  ....



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I solved test, my score is:

" Your responses to the quiz seem to indicate that The GenoType Diet may be a good fit for you. However, the distinction was not very strong, so you may want to read about both books and see which feels like the better fit for you. To learn more about The GenoType Diet, click here. To learn more about the Blood Type Diet, click here. "

Well, The Genotype diet should be better...

This indicates that the mix of the diets done by SWAMI would be the best starting point for you.  

As for the picky...  You can start with the foods you like most, but at some point, the body will probably realize that it is short of some nutrients or will get tired of the same foods all of the time and open up the taste spectrum to desire some other foods...  If you have a craving for an avoid, it is best to try to match the nutrient profile of that avoid to a beneficial food to try to meet the nutrient needs in that manner.




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Good luck following the GTD  ....



Thank You very much  
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This indicates that the mix of the diets done by SWAMI would be the best starting point for you.  

As for the picky...  You can start with the foods you like most, but at some point, the body will probably realize that it is short of some nutrients or will get tired of the same foods all of the time and open up the taste spectrum to desire some other foods...  If you have a craving for an avoid, it is best to try to match the nutrient profile of that avoid to a beneficial food to try to meet the nutrient needs in that manner.




The paradox is that the same foods beneficial for the group B are avoid for The Nomad. For example - beet juice, mango (which for group B is neutral,for the Nomad is avoid). I have many BIO mango juices - and what to do with this...

However, the most wonder makes me dairy and milk ... I like milk and it was beneficial for me. For Nomad is avoid. I didn't drink milk today and yesterday and I feel lighter, but also I have less energy. I felt better after milk, I had more energy.

Diet for Nomad is more restrictive, more difficult. It is difficult for me to eliminate goat's milk, cow's milk ... today I drank Rice milk Joya (healthy, beneficial for Nomad, less fat), but this is not the same.
I don't like cheeses (Nomad have much more cheeses), this is too fat for me, I don't like cheeses so much, I can eat but in very small quantities.

But Rice milk doesn't satisfy me, I miss something. I miss normal milk and oat-milk.
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The paradox is that the same foods beneficial for the group B are avoid for The Nomad. For example - beet juice, mango (which for group B is neutral,for the Nomad is avoid).

However, the most wonder makes me dairy and milk ... I like milk and it was beneficial for me. For Nomad is avoid. I didn't drink milk today and yesterday and I feel lighter, but also I have less energy. I felt better after milk, I had more energy.

Diet for Nomad is more restrictive, more difficult.

Part of the difficulty you are seeing may be due to the possible AB blood types also being Nomad...  Due to the multiple blood types possible in several of the Genotypes, some of the groups are more highly restricted than individual diets will be per SWAMI where the secondary blood types restrictions have been removed.


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Part of the difficulty you are seeing may be due to the possible AB blood types also being Nomad...  Due to the multiple blood types possible in several of the Genotypes, some of the groups are more highly restricted than individual diets will be per SWAMI where the secondary blood types restrictions have been removed.


Yes, when it comes to cow's milk, as Nomad - I suddenly changed everything, as if I were a group AB. And I have a group B.

I think that it should be the other diet for The Nomad with group B and the other diet for The Nomad with group AB.
When the diet for blood B is different than for blood AB, why The Nomad tell to eat the same things - this is PARADOX.

No way, I need to find out what is my SWAMI.  

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Thank you Chloe for the information.
I can see your composition seems quite similar to mine and we are same age.
I didn't know vinegar is the problem not the fermentation then will learn fermenting vegetables with salt.
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half of mine B-chen ...as ...I feel strongly for you as being a nonnie  but not sure for nomadisme .........my belly feeling told me: welcome in our club privé of explorers.......about your migraines.. I'm going to send you a private mail ... if you might allow / agree...

greetings from Switzerland


Hi !
How nice that someone from Switzerland   (for the month I'm going to Switzerland and I have plenty of friends in Switzerland).
Of course, you can send a private message when it comes to migraines. I think I have it on nervous because of the stress. I experience everything pretty much in life and I've a migraine regularly from minimum 10 years.
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