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nico
Sunday, July 27, 2014, 3:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi,

I'm planning on doing an ayurvedic (yogi) technique to clean my body and my intestine. It is called Shankaprakshalana, or Intestinal wash.

Many person I know have done it with great success, but none of them were following the type O diet, which I do.
By looking at the food restriction list for the 7 days after the 'treatment' I should not eat meat and eat things like lentils which are bad for me.

I am wondering whether I should follow the treatment's instructions for those 7 days, or if I should keep following my blood type diet.

As this treatment cleanse the intestinal flora and it needs to be rebuilt I believe it is important to eat the right food after, and that's where the dilemna is...

What do you think ?

Here's a link in which you can see the food restrictions for the ayurvedic treatment : http://www.jalanetipot.com/intestine_diet.html

Thanks a lot !
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all has been factored into the diets, including ayurveda

just follow your guidelines......you ll be cleansing by default


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Are you vata, pitta, or kapha dominant?

I am pitta dominant with a close second for kapha, and vata is like 21 percent.  When out of balance I tend to get pitta symptoms, and then with extreme stress kapha and vata symptoms begin to appear and go away rather easy.
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nico:
I ask you this as someone who has researched and used Ayurveda to my benefit at times:

If you are committed to the O-type diet, why use a cleansing-method that outright negates it for you?
There are certainly O-friendlier ways to cleanse, and I'm sure there are Os here who can help you locate them. If I were you, I wouldn't confuse the two systems in such a setting.
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nico
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I don't believe this cleansing method is in negation with the type O diet, but I believe it can be complimentary. For example if you read a few tesimonial on the ayurvedic cleansing technique you'll see that plenty of people found out that they were 'keeping' things in their intestine that were not supposed to be there (tomato skins etc...) I don't believe the blood type diet helps you getting rid of those...

This is not really negating the O diet, they just advise to avoid certain type of food for 7 days, which shouldn't be too much of an issue.

I believe avoiding food that's labelled as bad in the 2 diet for seven days should be good enough...
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Quoted from nico
For example if you read a few tesimonial on the ayurvedic cleansing technique you'll see that plenty of people found out that they were 'keeping' things in their intestine that were not supposed to be there (tomato skins etc...) I don't believe the blood type diet helps you getting rid of those...



Getting plenty of fiber and water does that - you don't need lentils as your fiber source.

However, do whatever you feel is in your best interests.
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Quoted from nico
I'm planning on doing an ayurvedic (yogi) technique to clean my body and my intestine. It is called Shankaprakshalana, or Intestinal wash.

Many person I know have done it with great success, but none of them were following the type O diet, which I do.
By looking at the food restriction list for the 7 days after the 'treatment' I should not eat meat and eat things like lentils which are bad for me.

I am wondering whether I should follow the treatment's instructions for those 7 days, or if I should keep following my blood type diet.

As this treatment cleanse the intestinal flora and it needs to be rebuilt I believe it is important to eat the right food after, and that's where the dilemna is...

What do you think ?

First, by following your blood type diet, your intestinal flora is probably more balanced than someone who hasn't been "eating right".  As the flora balance gets better, the intestines work better and flush any build-up out on their own.

In my opinion, following this protocol would be a setback for you rather than an improvement.  If you feel you need additional intestinal health help, Dr. D'Adamo has a protocol specifically for Intestinal health:
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/18.html


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Quoted from nico
Hi,

I'm planning on doing an ayurvedic (yogi) technique to clean my body and my intestine. It is called Shankaprakshalana, or Intestinal wash.

Many person I know have done it with great success, but none of them were following the type O diet, which I do.
By looking at the food restriction list for the 7 days after the 'treatment' I should not eat meat and eat things like lentils which are bad for me.

I am wondering whether I should follow the treatment's instructions for those 7 days, or if I should keep following my blood type diet.

As this treatment cleanse the intestinal flora and it needs to be rebuilt I believe it is important to eat the right food after, and that's where the dilemna is...

What do you think ?

Here's a link in which you can see the food restrictions for the ayurvedic treatment : http://www.jalanetipot.com/intestine_diet.html

Thanks a lot !


I am an O and decided to do a cleanse this Spring.  I found it very difficult to cut out all protein except for a specific Medical Food protein powder drink that was part of the plan I was following.  Unfortunately I ran short of the powder over the weekend and had to cut back my portions.  My symptoms were as follows:

Extreme brain fog
Painful cramps in my stomach
Extreme bloating
Inability to string together a coherent sentence (brain fog)

All that being said, I did feel there were some benefits to the cleanse.  In fact a lot of the arthritis pain I had been experiencing was greatly diminished after the cleanse and I felt much lighter and healthier.  I also lost about 4-5 lbs, which is a lot for me with my 5'2" frame - sorry - I can't remember the exact amount.

What seems ok on this diet is that you are allowed to have protein in the form of beans, legumes and tofu.  I had absolutely no protein allowed for three days except for the powder.  Maybe if I had not run low on the powder I would have been ok.

One thing other cleanses sometimes allow is mild white fish, cooked lightly.  If you find that you cannot tolerate the cleanse without animal protein, maybe you can try adding in some mild white fish once a day for a few days to get you over the hump.  I hit the wall on day five, but we are all different.  I wish I had added in the white fish myself.

I personally don't think a cleanse is a bad idea, even for an O.  I agree that it can help to remove toxins that are not always removed in our every day diet.  Also, I think it is important to acknowledge that a vast majority of people are not 100% compliant on their BTD/GTD so that can be just as bad or worse than trying a cleanse.  I admit that I am not nearly 100% compliant.  I tried that for a couple of years and the stress of what to eat when I was out to dinner or at friends houses was worse than cheating now and then.

Good luck with the cleanse!  Please let us know how it goes, what worked and what did not.  We can all learn from each other.  Patty


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Are you vata, pitta, or kapha dominant?

I am pitta dominant with a close second for kapha, and vata is like 21 percent.  When out of balance I tend to get pitta symptoms, and then with extreme stress kapha and vata symptoms begin to appear and go away rather easy.


Incorrect! I am vata pitta duel dosha
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why following any cleaning issues at all I think...and observed with myselve and a huge part of my clients...as soon as they're compliant to their diets...equal if 0 or A, B or AB...all will come along smoothy and to our very best... no cleansing needed then the diet does all this for us !!!...tissue cleansings... cell regeneration, nerve damage regenere etc...amazing amazing ....


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why following any cleaning issues at all no cleansing needed then the diet does all this for us !!!...tissue cleansings... cell regeneration, nerve damage regenere etc...amazing amazing ....


I agree. Nico, these cleansings may seem a regular part of Ayurvedic traditions, but unless your planning to go back the very eating habits that causes ongoing troubles, it is altogether unnecessary now and in the future. Eat right for your individuality to be healthy.

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Looking at that list, I can see that there are no "you absolutely must eat this food" but rather CATEGORIES of foods you're allowed to eat. You don't HAVE TO eat lentils- you could fulfill the tenants of this "cleansing diet" with compliant beans such as black beans and great northern beans. Similarly, you can stick to rice and skip the wheat.

I don't think this would be a particularly healthy way for an O to eat. I couldn't last a day without some form of animal protein without getting very weak, and this plan doesn't even allow for eggs or fish.However, it IS designed to be followed for only a week, and you may do OK eating this way for such a short time.

It looks like this is the "after treatment diet" not the "pre-treatment diet"? Is that correct? Since you don't need to worry about "doing it wrong and then messing up the treatment itself" you may want to start with the recommended diet, but listen to your body and add in animal products sooner if you feel the need for it.

Also, are you 100% certain you want/need to cleanse out your entire intestines and then repopulate all your gut flora? Do you have reason to believe there's something wrong with your GI tract, and a complete cleansing is the best way to handle this? The BTD itself provides a gentle cleansing, and that's all that some people need.


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taking some 800mg's of silica tablets daily for about a month and all yukky things will be gone from heavy metals to any other badies in your system...  it is one of the best (with chlorella) but then be aware to come along with helpul fatty acids...for not creating any rebound effect into your tissue cells !... wish you g'd luck ....


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The lower digestive system is vata dominated.  Using vata appropriate items that also correspond to beneficials in the genotype diet will clear it probably.  

The middle digestive is pitta, and the upper (like esophagus) is kapha.  I get all digestive symptoms at the kapha level personally.  The food won't pass well esp. if it is an avoid, with my esophagus closing up and not letting it down easy.  Also get a lot of clear mucus (or used to) which is another kapha thing I learned.  My stomach and lower GI never have issues regardless of stress levels or what I eat.

Vata is lower, pitta is middle, and kapha is upper digestive system.

Also, listen to your mind and body, is it more vata, pitta, or kapha dominant?  Most people have a mix of all three of these doshas with one or two dominant, sometimes a balance in all of them.  An intestinal cleanse may not even be needed like ruthiegirl says.
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Following BTD works for many, but here the Cancer Council say no to red meat for people with family history of colon cancer, and my biological mother died aged 37 from colon cancer.  So not always best to do what others or a book says; I feel so much better with only fruit during the day, and a large salad at night with a delicous dressing - usually no added oils/fats - seed/nut three days a week; I won't have much need for bowel/colon cleansing if I keep up this wonderful healthy raw way of eating which keeps the colon clean and uses wise food combining principles.  I also have much more energy now that my body is not trying to break down acidic animal proteins, and all the fat/cholesterol, I was unable to focus or do much of anything.  I was also concerned about diabetes and other diseases.  Best to listen to one's body, as it tells you what you need and when you're off track. Sometimes, the body and physiology can change over the years, so I need to be my own doctor. I miss some foods, but not the problems they caused or the way they made me feel, and I got tired of buying supplements which I did not respond to; remember the fresh fruit/veg for vitamin C; supplement form had no effect, but last night, a rich vitamin C salad with dressing had a very powerful positive effect, and I am thankful to Dr D, because his recommendations for the best fruit for 'hunter' GT are spot on for me, so it's bananas, dates, papaya, pineapple, pear, mango, grapefruit, lime, lemon, figs - they allow me to keep up my exercise routine.
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I recently tried the beans/rice/quinoa again, but did very poorly, felt awful, very tired, elimination did not work, could not focus or concentrate, had no energy.  More vegetables also not working that well.  Only fruit during the day is now best for me, plenty of it - usually two or three different sweet category fruit at each meal.  Dinner is salad with more acid fruits in a dressing. Sometimes, gluten intolerance can lead to a complete starch intolerance, and once these foods are cooked, the body can't use them, many grains just cameralise in the body - don't digest down well (in some of us), and block absorption of what we really need, ie minerals, vitamins, amino, fats, carbs from fresh fruit/ and easy to digest veggies, esp the green leafy.  I noticed how quickly the cooking of grains/seed burns the sausepan/pot, and when soaking the pot for a day, how terrible it smelt - the old stale odour, imagine how that attracts the unhealthy flora in the gut and stomach and how a person would feel when we really need our aminos , carbs, fats and nutrients to perform and for energy and even to sleep well.  Also how rice is sticky, and how that can stick inside, for those of us whose metabolism has become slower.  I realise some people can eat grains/legume/lentils or certain animal proteins, without problems, but my experience is a different one.  If I run into problems, a little steamed white fish like cod is the only cooked food I would try, as it doesn't cause any specific serious problems, digests down easily for me.
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