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Annaseed
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Dear Friends

Lately i've a massive urge for sugar! enormous! Before BTD i was able to control my Desert intake and so on.
Just to let u know am not fat but,coould b perfect weight.
On BTD i've long lasting moments where i feel like a junky and could eat KILOS UPON KILOS OF ANY SWEET RUBBISH.
even bought Halva ,which b4 BTD could only rearrley eat-just to sweet for me. On this diet could eat many halva's after dinner or any time.
D other day i had 2 halva's each 100g + some fruits and chocolate and something else which i've no memory off(high intake ofsugar probablly deleted it) ha ha ...
Gosh! i couldnt even imagine this b4.
Looking 4ward to ur experinence and wisdom.
Anna
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This may be an indication that you need more high carb. vegetables like sweet potato, beet, carrot, etc...

It may also be an indication that there is something you removed from your diet that had your sugar metabolism out of order and it is attempting to rebalance.  You need to maintain vigilance toward eating good foods and this rebalance will happen and then the body will dump the craving.

Hoping you get to a good spot soon.


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How long have you been on BTD?

What was your diet like before? Exactly how have you changed your diet since implementing BTD? It's possible you're not getting enough protein or enough total calories.


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It will get better as you eat more food good for you. Keep it up.


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the more sugar you crave, the more fixing your gut needs

bacterial overgrowth feeds on sugar

whenever you need a sweet fix, get a veggie fix, until your ecosystem replenishes


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And it is good to check blood glucose too! I do not know what "halwa' you have been taking. In this part of the world, halwas are all wheat flour and sugar products and for an O, eating wheat products is likely to take one to the wrong path of health.



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Halva is a sweet treat made from either flour, cornstarch OR nut butters such as sesame. Main ingredients are nut butter and sugar.

Other items can be added such as chocolate and pistachio.  My husband used to love this stuff but he doesn't eat it anymore.

All about halva.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva


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I think that you need to ride it out.  I have terrible sugar and starch addictions and, especially in the first 2 weeks of eating clean, they are often overwhelming.  I usually try to eat extra fruit - especially watermelon - during this time and it helps.  When I was really suffering, I would buy frozen Mango chunks and eat them every time I wanted sugar.  I would even add some stevia to them to sweeten them.  It WILL pass, but you might find yourself in an ongoing struggle with sugar and starch, especially if you eat poorly.


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Hello Ladies&Gentleman,

Thank u all very much indeed.
Am going to have to contemplate and translate and process ur kind answers above.
Let u know soon.

P.s. was eating Halva made of ground sesami seeds and honey.
Cheers
I love you.
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Probably the honey/sugar is the issue in the Halva. <3

Can you get agave syrup, to sweeten drinks with?  Much better sugar for you.


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Quoted from Lola
the more sugar you crave, the more fixing your gut needs



That's a pretty profound statement.  Something I will always remember reading.... I rarely want high sugar foods -- sometimes sugar is just too sweet...and dried fruit is about as sweet as I can stand....so....maybe my gut is better.  I used to be a sugarholic.  So good to know...



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Quoted from Kimono Kat
Probably the honey/sugar is the issue in the Halva. <3

Can you get agave syrup, to sweeten drinks with?  Much better sugar for you.

Agave Syrup better than honey?
Debatable. Loads of articles about it, but here's a pretty comprehensive one:
http://www.foodrenegade.com/agave-nectar-good-or-bad/


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I think sugar in most forms is bad, although I do indulge in dark chocolate and honey on occasion.  Lately I have been having my dark chocolate along with nuts so I cut down on the amount I eat.

Weaning yourself off sugar is a good start to a more healthy life.


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Honey is fine for all blood types, except for O non-secretors. For us, agave is a healthier choice than honey.

But any sweetener, even agave, molasses, or honey, need to be ingested in moderation. Most people should only have a teaspoon or two per day, and nobody *needs* sweeteners in their diets at all!

If you've been eating a lot of halvah, you've probably been ingesting way more honey than you should be. Two tablespoons of halvah probably has a day's worth of added sugars (even if it's honey and not sugar) and it sounds like you were eating much more than that.

I find that, if I'm craving sweets after dinner, it's usually because I haven't had enough to eat and I'm still hungry. Eating more protein, healthy fat, and vegetables is way more satisfying than a sugary snack.

If I've had enough to eat but I still "want something sweet" a cup of peppermint tea (often without any sweetener added, or maybe with half a teaspoon of agave) is usually enough to satisfy that craving.


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For me, Agave is a Beneficial food on my SWAMI. Sadly, honey is an avoid.


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Honey is also a "sattvic" food, per Ayurveda. Raw honey, that is.


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Honey has healing benefits. Recently I scratched my arm pretty deeply after accidentally scraping it
against a knife that was in my dishwasher...Out of all the things I could think to put on it, manuka honey was my first thought.  Quickly put a blob of honey on my arm and covered it with a bandaid. Almost overnight, the wound was healing very quickly and within 3 days, I barely had evidence of hurting myself.  So I'm thinking how powerful honey is for the gut.

It helps with acid reflux which I randomly get if I overeat.

http://www.motherearthnews.com.....w.aspx#axzz39Acbr2Ix

Sugar makes a great skin scrub.
http://wellnessmama.com/3628/sugar-scrub-recipe/

As for eating sugar, I don't.  I used to be a sugarholic, but now I find it tastes too sweet.
I often bake with dried dates which have been soaked until soft....then thrown into a blender
or Vitamix with the eggs. I add that to my dry ingredients.  Sweet enough for cookies or muffins.

Also dried dates and prunes soaked in hot water and then blended in a food processor to form
a thick paste is super sweet. I like to add carob powder (or cocoa if you can have it) and make a fudge. And adding a few tsps of instant coffee powder gives it a deeper flavor..  And then roll
into little balls and dip in some chopped nuts.  Honestly....I can fool myself into thinking
I've been eating very badly.   But for me, this would be eating 100% diamonds!  

PS I made a batch of date/carob fudge and added a pinch of sea salt, some coconut oil and I think it improved
the texture to have some oil in it.


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mmmmm, Chloe, sounds yummo!

I have a teaspoon of honey each morning in my tea with fresh squeezed lemon.
I also bake with honey or molasses and put a drizzle of honey on my oatmeal with ghee and cinnamon.
Can't imagine life without honey..thank goodness it is a superfood on my swami!!!


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mmmmm, Chloe, sounds yummo!

I have a teaspoon of honey each morning in my tea with fresh squeezed lemon.
I also bake with honey or molasses and put a drizzle of honey on my oatmeal with ghee and cinnamon.
Can't imagine life without honey..thank goodness it is a superfood on my swami!!!


I use manuka honey in my tea which is a superfood for me too.  But best is that molasses plus
green tea is a 5 star genoharmonic combo..How easy is that!   Oh, and to avoid the mess that
molasses usually makes when I try to get it out of a jar with a spoon, I poured my molasses into
a plastic container that once contained agave.  It's got a spout and I merely squeeze some out
without any  mess.  Now why isn't molasses packaged in containers like this?  It's so obvious
that gooey, sticky syrup needs to be squeezed out of a container, not spooned out.  



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This may be an indication that you need more high carb. vegetables like sweet potato, beet, carrot, etc...

It may also be an indication that there is something you removed from your diet that had your sugar metabolism out of order and it is attempting to rebalance.  You need to maintain vigilance toward eating good foods and this rebalance will happen and then the body will dump the craving.

Hoping you get to a good spot soon.


Been trying to make sure that i eat regulARY HIGH carb veges which u've mentioned. spoted just now in food value list, squash seems also like a good saurce of  protein and Carbs  However, gr of P and C per cup i significanteley lower than that of sweetp. So i'm not sure right now(was thinking to occasionally have sqaush ) would it be good idea to have squash instead of sweet p?
am thinking to start having some grains
Let me know please

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In the end it is not sugar we crave, but the feelings that went with it..

Breakfast: wheat-rolls and butter and jam and the breakfast table looked so good in sunshineand the hopes of a good day...
Am snack: A Cinnamon sugary buttery treat or a rye bread and salty coldcuts.
Lunch: the best macaronis under swiss cheeese, smothered in meat sauce, add some salad with vinegar..MMMM
After school snack: a slice of bread with chocolate with hazelnuts on top.
Dinner: Potatoes, meat and veggies, bread always
After dinner with the family: a piece of cake or pie
and later at night just something to go to sleep with: a piece of chocolate or a banana.
After the movies or social event: hot chocolate and lovely looking cookies
Sunday afternoon with friends: coffee and pastries with friends

So tell me which of these 'sweet' activities do you miss?
For me its the people to people interaction.  All that good feeling stopped when I went on low carbs 50 years ago..  what a sadness.  


Sugar you say... no it's not the (plain) sugar (in coffee) with creamMMMM, it's the chocolates and pretty pastries... It's the hundreds of instant available chocolate/sweet pastrie choices I had (then) It's the love I miss!  It's the candy from a lover.. all gone to H..ll...    even dreaming about it puts weight on.  


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Whenever I've craved something (like sweets, for example), I try and make sure I'm meeting that need in my diet with something that is very good for me - ideally, beneficial.  I used to be a major sweet-aholic but my cravings have been gone for many years.

The differences are that I make sure to incorporate the sweet tasting healthy foods into my daily meals without fail.  In my case, it is Beneficial berries and pineapple juice with my morning smoothie, with an abundance of healthy fats and protein.

The protein is an important point - I need some lamb daily (not a huge amount - just about 1/3 lb) and a little fish.

By the way, winter squash is a great carb-rich veggie, that can meet that sweet craving - but it really is not a substantial source of protein.  

Sweet potato is fantastic also.  I eat one every evening as my favorite healthy dessert.  Eat whichever is best on your own food list.  If they are rated the same, you can switch around.  In general, you will progress faster if you focus on beneficial foods more than the neutrals.  



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Best to avoid sugar and all sweeteners, as the weakening of cells/organs happens slowly over time, can cause metabolism to slow right down, certain carbs cause more problems for me than anything, and until things improve, even excess fats will cause problems; depends on your own body/system how you will react.
Best to get sweet taste from foods like rice, whole fresh fruit, sweet potato, swede, onions.
Sweet spices help too, such as cinnamon, aniseed, cardamom; but as Type O's can vary due to their genotype, it may take time to find what you thrive on.
Some do better with eggs in morning, chicken at lunch, fish/seafood in evening which also supports the kidney meridian or water element (TCM); soups in evening also help me. I had one lightly boiled egg, cooked pumpkin for breakfast this am, some blueberries to start, and a few pumpkin seeds as well.
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Best to avoid sugar and all sweeteners, as the weakening of cells/organs happens slowly over time, can cause metabolism to slow right down, certain carbs cause more problems for me than anything, and until things improve, even excess fats will cause problems; depends on your own body/system how you will react.
Best to get sweet taste from foods like rice, whole fresh fruit, sweet potato, swede, onions.
Sweet spices help too, such as cinnamon, aniseed, cardamom; but as Type O's can vary due to their genotype, it may take time to find what you thrive on.
Some do better with eggs in morning, chicken at lunch, fish/seafood in evening which also supports the kidney meridian or water element (TCM); soups in evening also help me. I had one lightly boiled egg, cooked pumpkin for breakfast this am, some blueberries to start, and a few pumpkin seeds as well.


So true and so right on.  Cinnamon is exceptional for taste on nearly any food and good for decades later when one might get diabetes.  Prevention and support matters LONG term...  


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