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Mickey
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Well i got some shocking news today from my doctor, she said because i have a cervical cyst and fibroids in my uterus that they might have to take my uterus out!.  Now i haven't seen the obgyn yet that she referred me to, but she wanted me to be aware that this is what they might want to do because i have both fibroids and a cyst.

I'm so upset about this news.  I'm very against having surgery and will do anything to try to avoid this.  I haven't been very compliant with my swami especially lately so i know i need to work on that.  I asked her if the fibroids can shrink and she said no.  I know she's coming from a conventional standpoint of medicine and i know that there may be holistic options that might help.  Does anyone know what else i can do besides ramping up my swami diet?.  I really want to try to avoid surgery.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Mickey  


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I would do my own research before submitting to the knife.  13 years ago before discovering BTD, I had a benign tumor in my left ovary.  They took out left ovary & tried to convince me to have a hysterectomy.  I refused.  I also had fibrous breasts & cysts that had to be drained.  Doc tried to convince me to see a breast surgeon.  I switched OBGYN.  I also had a benign tumor in my left leg.  I went to a local fair and somebody was selling health products.  She told me about her daughter who had success shrinking fibroids with noni juice.  To this day, I take some every day.  Well this started me on my heath kick.  Sometime during that year I discovered BTD.  


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Thanks Jane and RedLilac!

RedLilac,
So do you think the noni juice helped with your fibroids?.  I've heard alot of good things about noni juice and would be willing to give it a try.


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I have had to battle fibroids twice...when I was 30 I had a fibroid the size of a baseball. My Doc put me on birth control pills for three months. It got rid of the fibroid but I had a horrible reaction to the pills. My skin turned a dark reddish brown color and would peel every four days. I looked like someone had skinned me. It was worth it at the time because the sonogram showed that it was gone. When I was 41 I had an even larger one...my new ob/gyn explained to me that the cause of fibroids and cystic ovaries was due to hormone changes and imbalances. She told me about the progesterone creams. I used it religiously and after 5 months it was gone. I go back yearly for sonograms and everything is completely normal. I had also had many episodes of cysts rupturing on my right ovary.( beginning at the age of 16)  It would always happen when I was ovulating...it makes sense now...hormones change at that time and our temp increases a bit. It creates the perfect storm for them to rupture. The cream has also helped with cystic breasts. I just wanted to share my experience because I believe there are alternatives. My ob/gyn told me that hysterectomies are the most overly abused, unnecessary surgeries performed. I was fortunate to fine her. She quit practicing after the affordable care act was passed.  
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My gyn stopped doing surgeries and started a practice doing bioidentical hormones only, several years ago. He had been with the largest practice in the city. So, for some reason that I can't remember now, he sent me to his cohort back at the large practice to have an exam. They found a fibroid and a polyp and wanted to do an ablation. I did not want it. I asked my doctor about it. He said, not to worry. You will die past age 95 and they will still be there having done no harm. That was about 8 years ago. No problems, so far. I had some bleeding several months ago when I had been doing some strenuous exercise that sort of pounded on my lower abdomen. I had to stop that. It went away and hasn't returned.
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Mickey,
One of our forum members has much experience dealing with cysts and fibroids.  She recently had a surgery which allowed her to keep her uterus.  You might like to get in touch with her.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-rost/m-1397403647/s-0/



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Thanks Jane and RedLilac!

RedLilac,
So do you think the noni juice helped with your fibroids?.  I've heard alot of good things about noni juice and would be willing to give it a try.


Well it sure couldn't hurt to add it to your regime.


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Mikey... don't believe all *white coated * tell ya...read all about the thread of ballettomane ...

must tell ya...some years ago a gyni told me to act likewise as you described it... but my bellyfeeling told another story...

my left cyst is gone... completely due to PT-treatments...& orthomolecular treatments...dito did my fibroid on my left ovair shrinked to 1/3 since with PT therapy...all this is hormonal/eneregetical/psychological  related.. I also use right now wild yams and must say...great feeling and muchmore enegies...

Neither would I give up anything due to a *butchers* bla's nor would I ever give up
any vital female organs...!

Wish you well decidings... and don't get into your own trap called: fears !!!

from yours amiga Isa

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Louise Hays & CH.Beerlandts' psychosomatical advices aren't bad @ all ...


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Hi Mickey,

I recently had an abdominal surgery to remove two huge fibroids and two ovarian cysts. First of all let me assure you that under no circumstances will there be any need to remove your uterus. I have just written a blog post about myomectomy (which is what I have gone through) vs. hysterectomy. Please have a look:

http://wp.me/p1HqqC-bo

I have tried for five years to shrink my fibroids with natural means. While sometimes I had seen it shrink for several cm, other times it just blew up quickly in a short time. I figured that emotional stress was the main factor in my case. Everyone's constituent and condition is different. However, I do think emotional swings are closely connected with hormonal fluctuations and vice versa, which have a direct effect on the fibroids and cysts.

One thing that I'd like to know is how large your fibroid is and how it has been affecting your daily life. Some people have relatively small fibroids but due to the location in the pelvic cavity, they might cause a lot of troubles like excessive bleeding and pain during menstruation. The largest of mine was 18cm but I did not experience much pain or excessive blood loss at all during my menstrual periods. I attribute that to the SWAMI diet, which I started following shortly after I was diagnosed.

I guess there are lots of natural superfoods such as noni that could help with the condition. I did not have the chance and knowledge to try them all, and because many of them are not listed under SWAMI, I didn't know if they would be beneficial to me. So I chose to play it safe.

If your fibroid is not affecting your daily life a lot, you can very well just monitor its growth while keeping a healthy lifestyle. Vitamin D is crucial--get some sunshine whenever possible and supplement with Dr. D's Phyto-D.

If you opt for a surgery, there are surgeons skilled enough to do so endoscopically (as long as the fibroid has not grown above the belly button mark). There are many surgeons who would recommend hysterectomy because they are lazy and just want to make a quick buck. This is done without concern for the real needs of women and the anatomical function of the uterus in mind! So search and search until you find a good surgeon who is willing and confident to preserve your uterus.

Most important of all, listen to your inner voice and do not let anyone force you into doing anything that you don't feel comfortable with. I wish you the best of luck and don't hesitate to write to me in private if you have any questions.




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Juices are a good way to get the nurients to make changes within, especially when eating BTD has so far escaped you.  The principal behind juices is that you absorb all and get fluids as well.. Mix the juices from fruits on SWAMI and drink them alone,  make green vegetable juices and drink them also .,.

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I have had to battle fibroids twice...when I was 30 I had a fibroid the size of a baseball. My Doc put me on birth control pills for three months. It got rid of the fibroid but I had a horrible reaction to the pills. My skin turned a dark reddish brown color and would peel every four days. I looked like someone had skinned me. It was worth it at the time because the sonogram showed that it was gone. When I was 41 I had an even larger one...my new ob/gyn explained to me that the cause of fibroids and cystic ovaries was due to hormone changes and imbalances. She told me about the progesterone creams. I used it religiously and after 5 months it was gone. I go back yearly for sonograms and everything is completely normal. I had also had many episodes of cysts rupturing on my right ovary.( beginning at the age of 16)  It would always happen when I was ovulating...it makes sense now...hormones change at that time and our temp increases a bit. It creates the perfect storm for them to rupture. The cream has also helped with cystic breasts. I just wanted to share my experience because I believe there are alternatives. My ob/gyn told me that hysterectomies are the most overly abused, unnecessary surgeries performed. I was fortunate to fine her. She quit practicing after the affordable care act was passed.  


This story is one to remember, Amazon is right also, but then she does many things including using other things than foods..  Ask Amazon what esle she uses to 'treat' her clients..  

Taking control of your own involvement for your health is    I might add that doing intestinal body cleanses might make all the differnces as well.  You might look up Dr. Bernard Jensen, although he died a few years ago of old age, his treatments done at home will possibly make a big difference.  The body is only on extension of the intestines, .. learn more about it.  All the best.      


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[quote]............ I was fortunate to fine her. She quit practicing after the affordable care act was passed. [/quote]  That is too bad, but maybe she will write a book and teach what she knows about such issues... It's worth it to ask her, if she is young enough.  

.......... "She quit practicing after the affordable care act was passed"....
So many ways to skin any issue...  One of my female doctors does not take checks, no credit cards and no insurances at all.  She charges 800 dollar a visit, and is busy enough to keep office support staff of ten busy year round.  Her visits are about 15 minutes. She is connected and respected by the best of her peers.
  
On the other hand I am also aware of two people so far, who did not have cash for local doctors, and not enough income to pay for insurance.  One of them went for her first checkup in years, discovered breast cancer and was treated.  The other middle aged mother of three - self employed- discovered lung cancer with metastasises by the time she got ACA.  She is getting treatment, and has applied for the federal disability program to help her so that she can devote all her time to health and living her life for as long as she can.  

ACA saves lives for those who need it.  

I don't need it (I have universal healthcare for the elderly, called Medicare) yet, with my recent cancer, I am happy that I can not be excluded from insurance due to pre-existing health conditions. My federal Medicare paid for my cancer operation, with money never on issue.  I could focus on my health concerns, which includes visits to Dr D's clinic, just so that I can get alternative (self paid) Swami adjustments, and specific O cancer and diabetes related support.  Not cheap, but worth the money, every bit of it.  we need all kinds of doctors to help us decide what to do.

If I had no insurance I could not afforded all of my health treatments and ‘private’ doctor visits.

I am happy that even middle class people now can enjoy the safety of insurance.  

A 28 year old 'girl' finally could go to see various doctors for her health issues. Previously, she had no coverage even though she works full time as CNA taking care of Altzheimer patients.  She has various health issues.  So far she saw a Gyn for inside issues.  She is now getting support for anxiety and it seems to work.  Her skin doctor is treating boils she had for about 8 years on her head, between her legs and on her back side. ACA is the only insurance she can afford, even while working full time for a Caregiving company.

Amazone can vouch for the fact that while I lived in Switzerland, I grew up being covered with insurance from the 9 month before I was born 70 years ago.. Universal coverage works to keep people healthy, families safer, keeping  Doctors very well off finacially, treating people with way less expensive hospital costs.  

It’s a matter of mind over matter.  Health for all or only some..  Medicare for all.......... some day.. it works to keep the elderly healthier,....... for many decades already so that their children don't have to worry as much about mom and dads well being...     All together we can afford it.  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Thanks for all your helpful advice everyone!!!

Sorry i haven't replied to you all, i've haven't been feeling well lately.  After i got over the initial shock of it all, i have had time to do some research, etc...  I've decided to wait til i see the obgyn to see what she says before i jump to any conclusions.  I have read that many women have fibroids and there are many alternatives to surgery.  From what i read that they are fueled by excess estrogen, so it seems that you would have to find ways to reduce estrogen to stop the fibroids from growing bigger.  Some women have had the surgery to remove them but they grew back because the excess estrogen was not addressed.  

Balletomane,
Thanks for chiming in.  I'm glad your surgery went well.  I will look at your blog and keep your advice in mind when i need to way my alternatives.  I don't know how big my fibroids are, i won't know til next friday when i see the obgyn though my GP said that my uterus is enlarged because of them.  Up til i found out i had fibroids a couple of weeks ago i really haven't had many symptoms.  A couple of months ago i started having chronic constipation that would last about a week then go away and reoccur.  I didn't think it had anything to do with my fibroids, but in my research i have found out that fibroids can cause constipation if their pressing against your bowel.  I also started my period on Monday with bad cramping which is unusual for me and my last period ended 2 weeks ago.


Goldie,
I plan to start juicing again, i haven't done it in awhile.  Thanks for the reminder!  


Amazone,
Yes i'm familiar with Louise Hay, i have her book.  I have studied natural health and know that surgery is the last resort answer.  I plan to do everything i can to avoid it.


"Let food be thy medicine"

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I think lots of vitamin  C plus fluids would help.  Fasting also gets rid of benign growths.
Definitely there are better options than surgery.


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Update:

I had my appt. with the ob-gyn today.  To my surprise my fibroids are only a few centimeters each.  This was a welcome relief after what my regular doctor told me.  The worst thing i feared was that they were going to tell me that i had to have my uterus taken out.  The ob-gyn wasn't at all concerned about the fibroids or cervical cyst, she said they are quite common.  I guess i should've waited to see what she would say before i got all stressed about nothing!.  I wish my doc. would've never told me that they might want to take my uterus out!.  I appreciate everyone trying to help me and hope that at the least this thread will help someone in the future.


Balletomane,
I wish you all the best for your recovery!.  


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Great news Mickey!!! Isn't it horrible how worrying about a health issue just seems to compound the problem??? I'm so glad everything is ok...just keep up with your program and I bet you will keep continuing to get better.  
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Mickey, I'm so glad you heard reassuring news and have nothing to worry about.  How awful that sny doctor would jump way ahead and make a quick judgement that is negative for the patient...something they shouldn't be sharing at all given they're not the final voice on the exploration of the particular pathology.....Knowing you were going to see your ob gyn, this
doctor should have been supportive and reassuring instead of frightening you unnecessarily.
That's almost arrogant.  My husband's PCP has done this many times....scares him with a preliminary diagnosis that turns out to be bogus once he sees a specialist. I find PCPs are more
likely to do something like this than a specialist.

.I'm sorry you had to be so frightened and upset over this whole scenario.  To walk around feeling shocked and worried is a horrible feeling for anyone.  Now I'm hoping you can just focus on your diet, and putting this all behind you!  All is well now and I'm happy for you  


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Thanks Chloe for your kind words!.  I do feel a big weight has been taken off of my shoulders, now i can re-direct my energy to my diet and getting back on track with my exercise.  I do feel that my doctor was trying to be proactive by i think the way she did was insensitive.  I'm ready to put this all behind me and i'm happy that i don't have to worry anymore


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Great news, Mickey!  



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Well, for me the scare of a cyst would have driven me to the cancer doctor earlier, instead my then docotrs cavalier  conversation hade me NOT pay attention for a year for the spot that was next to it being cancer...

There is something to be said for all sides.. YET  the beat side I can assure you is this one here.. EAT right according to diet for cysts might be found in the cancer book as prevention... or the Specific eep Blue SWAMI for cancer prevention (I received in the clinic).. in that way you are targeting both issues for all time to come..

There are sups .. specific for prevention and there is in my take home protocol Itarus Green Tea for my future cancer prevention care.. and for me all sort of things for elimination.. getting rid of toxins and flush out all that is not needed.. All makes sense..

I 'hate' the tea, and the membrosia oils as Cloe is talking about.. yet I will consider another try at it.. I would rather give it away... to someone who can like the flavors..

Even though cysts are not cancer you might still look at the cancer protocol somewheres here in the Encyclopedia.. although DR D has added many supplemts since the printing of that... Lola might be able help.. with additional info.. THAnks Lol I love your daily freshness.




Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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I think they are all worried about being sued.....and they overreact.

Glad they are small.  I had one years ago that was the size of a plum.  I never did anything about it and I assume it went away when I finally went through menopause very late - almost 60.  
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Mickey, I am so glad to hear that your fibroids are small. Now you can relax and just focus on fine-tuning a diet and lifestyle that can address the hormonal imbalance that initially contributed to the growth of the fibroids and cysts. I would say from my experience that stress if definitely at the root of the disease. So take it easy and I wish you the best in your journey to health. And thanks for your well-wishes for my recovery!




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