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O_Secretor_Hunter
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My cousin developed a large fibroid at age 50.
I'm wondering if the GenoType Diet mentions this.
I'll have to check the index.

I think I went to the ER4YT Encylopedia and it said too much estrogen.

What's odd is that she eats healthy, has a vitamix.

If there are any case studies that have come up since the publication of The GenoType Diet, let me know. Are they on the website?

I also put the question to the Live Right for Your Type forum.

Thank you.
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I also put the question to the Live Right for Your Type forum.

Thank you.


Hi! Welcome to the forum.

We are a small community - so we don't cross post. I have removed your post from the Live Right forum and will move this post to The Encyclopedia in a day or two.

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Probably best to have it removed surgically.

Using a Vitamix does not mean you eat healthy.  


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Probably best to have it removed surgically.

Using a Vitamix does not mean you eat healthy.  


In this case, it does.

If more posts come in, I might be able to encourage following either the Live Right 4 Your Type Diet or the Geno Type Diet.

As for removing the posts and putting them under the Encylopedia, it is good for administrative purposes but it is not good customer service. I would appreciate learning case studies from the two different diets. Dr. D'Adamo explained to me that the two diets work differently. To my knowledge, there is only a Blood Type Encyclodia, not a Geno Type Encyclopedia.

If neither diet address this harmonal problem, then those are the facts for this thread.

Thank you.
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As for removing the posts and putting them under the Encylopedia, it is good for administrative purposes but it is not good customer service. I would appreciate learning case studies from the two different diets. Dr. D'Adamo explained to me that the two diets work differently. To my knowledge, there is only a Blood Type Encyclodia, not a Geno Type Encyclopedia.

Thank you.


Given the size of our contributing member base the best customer service is if all participants can respond in a single thread. Since you have mentioned both BTD and GTD, that will also be addressed.

Yes, the diets work from differing emphases.

You might find the recommendation to be the use of a SWAMI, which will combine the aspects of the two diets on an individualized basis.

Or you might get the suggestion to 'take the quiz' to see whether BTD or GTD is generally more likely to work better.

Another possibility is to start with the BTD and see if it helps.

Those are all good answers. Your cousin will have to make their own decision. I don't know if either would help with the fibroids. You may get other responses that help over the coming days.

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I think I went to the ER4YT Encylopedia and it said too much estrogen.

What's odd is that she eats healthy, has a vitamix.

Has she been following one of Dr. D.'s diets up to now?
If not, then I really question how "healthily" she has been eating.  Please understand that this is not a condemnation of your cousin, but a reality check for anyone who follows standard American "health food recommendations for the general population".  My parents kept up with general guidelines and health information but my diet was about 80-90% avoids from the time I was a child until about 40 when I found Eat Right.  By that time, I had had several traumatic injuries that created major problems that have required long-term healing since changing diets.

Following either book diet will probably be better than not, but the individualized SWAMI will be the best option.  The change in diet may not make her instantly "all better", however as the healing may take time due to whatever the state of her body is currently.

She may also want to check out Dr. D'Adamo's supplement Fem Balance for hormonal assistance.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP033

My WW had hormonal issues that were helped by cutting the major avoids for her type - which were basically the same for both book diets.


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Well I have a rather big one
- I have decided NOT to have mine removed yet.
I can somewhat control it with supplements like red raspeberry leaf, magnesium, retionol -strong multi Bs and vitex agnus

My gyn says aprox 70 % of all women over 40 have some fibroids for some it makes life horrid for others it doesn´t.


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Has she been following one of Dr. D.'s diets up to now?
If not, then I really question how "healthily" she has been eating.  Please understand that this is not a condemnation of your cousin, but a reality check for anyone who follows standard American "health food recommendations for the general population".  My parents kept up with general guidelines and health information but my diet was about 80-90% avoids from the time I was a child until about 40 when I found Eat Right.  By that time, I had had several traumatic injuries that created major problems that have required long-term healing since changing diets.

Following either book diet will probably be better than not, but the individualized SWAMI will be the best option.  The change in diet may not make her instantly "all better", however as the healing may take time due to whatever the state of her body is currently.

She may also want to check out Dr. D'Adamo's supplement Fem Balance for hormonal assistance.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP033

My WW had hormonal issues that were helped by cutting the major avoids for her type - which were basically the same for both book diets.


Thank you Community Member. I would not have thought to search out Fem Balance.

I am not under the impression that all NDs make either the LR4YT or the GenoType Diet (of Dr. D) their top priority. Another cousin of mine told me one of her nutritionists recommended the blood type diet. I was happy to hear that. That said, there are people who are very knowledgeable about nutrition for whom the Dr. D diets are not the #1 priority. So, the cousin with the fibroid is headstrong against "the average American diet" but hasn't adopted any of the Dr. D diets.

What percent of NDs do make Dr. D diets a priority?
What percent of nutritionists make Dr. D diets a prioirty?

I would agree with you that no matter how many vegetables she's growing and consuming, if she's not consuming the highly beneficials and keeping the avoids to a minimum or totally avoiding them, the quality of her diet is not good enough.
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I'll ask her if surgery was an option for her.

The last time I spoke with her, I asked her to ask her ND for a referral to a MD because some of the people she's seen have not been appreciating her good habits.

As for myself, when I get a Vitamix, it will help me with my lifestyle of following the GenoType Diet and the Live Right 4 Your Type diet. I don't have any literature on SWAMI. I may have an early version of it in the binder Dr. D'Adamo gave me.

By the way, I'm thinking Baby Romaine lettuce works as well for me as fully grown Romaine lettuce.

Wish me luck in growing my acquaintances and developing my inner circle, people who will enjoy a blessed meal that is LR4YT or GenoType correct.
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I see there is an instructional video for SWAMI. I'm considering it to be on my Watch Later List.

Second, The GenoType Diet seems to have been published in 2007.

Wait a second. I know there are case studies in ER4YT and LR4YT. I'm not sure if there are case studies in The GenoType book. The case studies in the prior two books were impressively persuasive to me.

Anyway, even if there are case studies in The GenoType Diet, I am looking for Dr. D case studies 2007 to 2013.

Please advise if they are on any of the Dr. D websites.

Other than that, thank you.

May our food supply be blessed and may people eat right for their blood type and geno type.
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Anyway, even if there are case studies in The GenoType Diet, I am looking for Dr. D case studies 2007 to 2013.

Please advise if they are on any of the Dr. D websites.

I don't know of any case studies for The Genotype Diet between those times, mostly because the SWAMI Xpress software was published about a year later, and Dr. D. had been using the SWAMI Genotype software (the professional version) in the office between the publishing date of The Genotype Diet book and the Xpress publication, so I'm not sure how much data there is for the book Genotype diet...

There are practitioners who utilize Dr. D's efforts in their work.  Those who have been to a seminar and passed the test are listed in this list:
http://www.generativemedicine.org/ifhi/memberlist.pl


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I'll ask her if surgery was an option for her.

The last time I spoke with her, I asked her to ask her ND for a referral to a MD because some of the people she's seen have not been appreciating her good habits.

As for myself, when I get a Vitamix, it will help me with my lifestyle of following the GenoType Diet and the Live Right 4 Your Type diet. I don't have any literature on SWAMI. I may have an early version of it in the binder Dr. D'Adamo gave me.

By the way, I'm thinking Baby Romaine lettuce works as well for me as fully grown Romaine lettuce.

Wish me luck in growing my acquaintances and developing my inner circle, people who will enjoy a blessed meal that is LR4YT or GenoType correct.


I live in HOuston and think your idea of using the Vitamix is brilliant - welcome!

AS for women and fibroids and how big they get; do you know her bloodtype? A's are especially prone to cell mutations whether benign or not. I think most women are bound to get fibroids (I'm 49 and don't have any x rays on this yet) and the standard advice these days is to shrink them through vein catheterization to cut off their blood supply if surgery is not wanted, or if there are several fibroids to be dealt with.

I can say for myself that I have been on my SWAMI'ed diet for over  a year now, and I went back to a week where I was eating one starch that was not good for me (potatoes) I am blood type A. I noticed a week later I had developed growths of excess cells on my tongue that were painful (plica fimbrata) and had to immdiately stop that food and do more detoxing in order to solve that. And the growths did go away! It took as much time for them to go away as it did for them to appear........and perhaps this is the issue with fibroids in women.....seeing that they develop at sites where hormones are highly active in tissue.

I think hormonal balance is a big issue all women face eventually whether they like it or not in their 40's and resolving that could really be the turn-key to keeping bad health at bay (along with Eat Right for your Type and LIve Right for your Type.)



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For my part, this is the best place of all to get real-time case histories!! Besides that, Lola posts testimonials on a regular basis from people writing about the wonderful, miraculous ways these diets have changed their lives! http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1276020101/s-new/#num647


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I have heard that they shrink with menopause, so for that reason, I would not have surgery.
I also know that fasting shrinks non-malignant tumors. If she is not used to fasting, try clear liquids & build up to fasting. There are various books that show how to fast.
I have low blood sugar, but still can fast. I do it one day at a time,  not long ones as I have to function in my world. But if someone is able to take time away from everything, there are ways to do long fasts with marvelous results & there are practitioners to help with it.
I also think large doses of vitamin C help with tumors. That is cheap& harmless enough to try.
Stay tuned to this forum & you will get lots of help from this great community!


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this looks like very good information

http://www.totalhealthmagazine.....terine-fibroids.html


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ABJoe - thanks for the list

Seraffa - She is scared of veint catheterization. Thanks for telling your story about plica fimbrata.

Spring - thae garland of thanks would include how the diets worked. That's a great source for readng about how the diets worked, given indivicual cases.

Mrs. T.O. Yes, she said she was going to wait until mnopuae passes.

Chloe - Awesome Article.

Lola - Thanks! I agree: they are informative!
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I concur with Mrs T O+: A perimenopausal fibroid is probably found in the majority of American women who have an ultrasound. And, yes, estrogen/ gonadotropic hormone is its "food", so the diminution of such will cause it to shrink. If it is quite large, most GYNs would advise periodic ultrasounds to monitor that shrinkage or perhaps growth. If there is consistent growth, especially with symptoms, after menopause, there are still alternatives to surgery.
One of those is the use of aromatase inhibitors. Even if a woman's ovaries are no longer producing estrogen, her adrenals and fat cells are doing so by a process of conversion that can be hindered. There are natural aromatase inhibitors that can be tried. I believe North American Pharmacal has one, but certainly a bit of internet research can instruct.

Your 50 year old friend might not have to resort to that yet - the ovaries themselves may go a bit haywire before petering out altogether, and, when they run amok they can feed fibroids, for sure. If your friend can wait it out, again, most GYNs advise doing so.

However:

Some fibroids are very symptomatic, causing urinary problems, back problems, rectal problems, hemorrhagic bleeding, torsion (twisting - if pedunculated) and the attendant pain, et cetera. If that is the case, there are surgeries - some of them outpatient procedures - that can shrink or remove fibroids (located in certain accessible areas) without full hysterectomy. It's amazing how many different methods there are of zapping, starving, strangling, and removing the pesky growths these days.
Of course, the very symptomatic fibroid will bite the dust quickly with a hysterectomy.
A fibroid specialist can answer these questions. This one is very good, IMO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5lqfEPYa3s
This video is short and easy, but Dr. Jacoby (Univ. of Calif.) also has a lecture on YouTube that is about 50mins long, explaining in detail the cause, monitoring and treatment of fibroids.


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She may need to increase progesterone, an ND can help with that….aand there are foods that keep  estrogen from causing havoc. Broccoli is one. And stay off soy. But I AM NOT A DOCTOR, (not that anyone thought I was!)
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She may need to increase progesterone, an ND can help with that….


This from the National Institute of Health shows that progesterone can actually cause fibroids to enlarge, so I wouldn't play with it.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/magazine/issues/spring07/articles/spring07pg20-21.html
I include this link, but there are others connecting progesterone with fibroid growth, including that of Johns Hopkins - a very thorough page on allopathy's various modalities:
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org.....itions/fibroids.html

But, yes, as estrogen is Fibroid Fuel, chances are that those with postmenopausal fibroids show other signs that ovarian cessation has not ended estrogen's presence. A fibroid specialist, endocrinologist or Gyn Onc (among allopaths) might be prepared to work with such patients.
And then, yes, natural approaches can (and in my opinion should) be investigated.

O_Secretor_Hunter: It's usually a good idea to permit someone like your cousin to do these investigations herself; people have to go with their own comfort zone...


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