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Christopher1
Saturday, March 15, 2014, 6:09pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hello all:

Looking for some help here. = (

I've been on some form of the diet (BTD/GTD/SWAMI) for over 5 years, but I am dealing with severe erectile dysfunction.

I went on Wellbutrin a year ago - after which the ED started. (Before the Wellbutrin, everything was fine.)

I took some calcium d-glucarate to clean out any estrogen and got my blood tested.

Estradiol was 20 and testosterone was 950. The endocrinologist was pleased, but could not figure out what was causing the ED - so he gave me some Viagra which I don't want to use.

Wellbutrin is supposed to raise dopamine and norepinephrine, I think.

I went to a holistic doctor and she ordered a neurotransmitter urine test.

The result?

Norepinephrine was too low! Wait - I thought O's usually had too much of the catecholamines?

I am a Hunter (O+ non-secretor) according to SWAMI by the way.

She gave me some expensive supplements, but I just ordered a couple of bottles of Catechol instead - believing it to be superior (and cheaper). The supplements she tried selling me did have things like tyrosine and rhodiola etc.

Well - I have been doing the Catechol for over a month with zero results. = (

I also tried using high doses of arginine on an empty stomach and eating more watermelon for nitric oxide - but it did absolutely nothing.

My neurotransmitter test showed that dopamine and epinephrine were fine. Histamine was fine, too. Only norepinephrine was way too low.

The test also showed that PEA was a little low (phenethylamine - though I eat chocolate daily) and creatinine was a little high - but both were within range.

(I have also been tested for thyroid, LH, FSH, cortisol, and estrone. All were fine. Cortisol was a little high (25). I have some holy basil here though. I seem to be fine, I think.)

If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. = (

I will report results in this thread so others can benefit if they have the same problem.
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C_Sharp
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Based on this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17170606 and other research on nitric oxide, Nitricycle might help (I know you said watermelon did not work you).

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP013


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Quoted from Christopher1

Well - I have been doing the Catechol for over a month with zero results. = (

I also tried using high doses of arginine on an empty stomach


Are we continuing take Wellbutrin or was Catechol being used to replace it?

If Wellbutrin is regulating dopamine level I would have an inclination to try things that would deal more with testosterone and hormone balance issues.

Perhaps trying Aromostat:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP010

Or Genoma EQ:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP045



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Quoted from Christopher1
Cortisol was a little high (25).


I use Cortiguard for this, but I am not confident that this will deal with the erectile dysfunction issue.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP006



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Mrs T O+
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Dr. Bill Stilwell, who has a site called (I think) dr.billsfavoriteformulas.com or something like that sells good quality supps & one of them is Megarex which is supposed to be good for male issues & is supposedly all natural things, not drugs. I'm sure you can find him on the internet.
He used to have a regular e-newsletter, but I rarely hear from him now. I feel confident he has good products.  


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The right kind of stimulation-- go back to the place where you had the best sex.


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Quoted from Mrs T O+
Dr. Bill Stilwell, who has a site called (I think) dr.billsfavoriteformulas.com or something like that  


URL is:

http://drbillsformulas.com/


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Christopher, sorry but I've got merely the pic. into my head that true issue isn't the mentioned causa... merely fear and ........are... why not working with Louise Hays' affirmations...for example...getting connected body-mind-issues ... wish you quickest results and better understandings for your own being ...

best wishes from Switzerland.... (and no blue pill at all..... )...


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Thank you for all the help!

I will report my progress.
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the mushy ABM might be one of the body needs in your case as well ......


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cardiovascular health protocols might be in order as well


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Christopher1
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Still nothing.

I am going to try pregnenolone.

That Wellbutrin really messed me up.
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have you tried a cayenne capsule with main meals. 500 mg make sure only with meals though not before not after literally with meals.

also try and do many things. keep posture good. straight back. east for your type. reduce intimacy to once a week for 3 months.

exercise, walk on the beach with bare feet, go into the sea. take Epsom baths.

take a lot of magnesium also i mean like a building up to a total of maybe 1000 mg each day for month maybe 3 months.

also take a polyvite O cap or two with every meal.



Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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why not ask the makers of welbuterin what they have to say??? Report the effects via your doctor to the powers to be in Washington..

I also think that Amazon is correct to a large degree.. Look for the fear factor, look for the instance when something in your head may have triggered a thought that is hounding you..

Sorry this is happening at your early age.. No diabetes?  No bigger issues? all checked out?

all the best.. and romance too.. and for the next 30 days no expectations.. just say no for a while and see if (catastrophic) expectations are hampering your being... self pressure is a bad beginning.  

As for your partner, be as romantic for the same month as is possible, do other things to assure that nothing else is going on.  Be kind to you and your partner.  look at what you might learn from this as far as love making is concerned.. often sex is the vehicle to a certain set of behavior when maybe the real thing is love making which takes a while longer and does not have to result in sex... sitting next to a partner.. instead of sitting opposite is much more intimate.. holding hands while walking  
around the neighborhood, or actually looking into your partners eyes over dinner.. learn new ways to the old.. ..  
goood luck..


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cordyceps or some l'arginine ....as a form of placebo aid ..... and why not booking a *tantric course* This often works wonders !!!


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Have you tried going supplement free/fast for a few days?
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Antidepressants can do that.  This may sound bizarre, but refraining from ejaculation limiting it to once per week or maybe even two can help.  Also standing in martial arts horse stance for a little each day can greatly supply blood and energy back to the center area/pelvis.  

Look up horse stance, just a little bit few times a day hold 30 secs to start.


I took Zoloft most of college and it did have negative effects.  Could have enjoyed college much more had I known in that area  i then tried wellbutrin and it made me super overstimulated and did n o t sleep more than an hour a night.  I feel those meds are way overused and are a big pharma money maker.  They are very addictive and hard to get off of.  Use good herbs ti buffer the withdrawals, but as a hunter you prob arent as chemically sensitive.

Also there is no real evidence neurotransmitters have anything to do with depression as a cause of it.  The meds create a pathological change in the brain and don't address the cause.  I feel stress hormones cause it not neurotransmitters.

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I am not suggesting that this is at all your issue, but I thought I would add this information.  There are a lot of issues these days with men using pornography and/or manual stimulation resulting in an inability to perform sexually with a partner.  There are many reasons for this and it has been reported on college campuses across the country.

I agree with the idea that limiting your sexual outlet, as recommended by Easy E can be a very good start and doing this only with a partner.  Go back to basics.  Hopefully you have a partner who will be understanding and help you through this difficult time with both compassion and patience.  Sometimes the answer is simple and abstinence can help to re-establish a healthy sex life, assuming your physician has ruled out other issues.

Try touching without sex.  Work towards rebuilding your intimacy without the need for an orgasm and you may find over time that you also rebuild your ability to respond.


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I tried antidepressants for a year, and while I never experienced erectile dysfunction, it would take me around an hour to climax. As soon as I weaned off, I was extremely sensitive and would climax in 3 minutes. It took me month to get back to normal.  

Only a third of people actually respond to antidepressants. And often the side effects outweigh the benefits.

Recommended reading:
http://www.amazon.com/How-Come-Theyre-Happy-Not/dp/1573245801
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Have you tried going supplement free/fast for a few days?


I'm not joking about this... even fasting a couple of meals can do interesting things sometimes.

To a point where I can say not even Trehalose can facilitate some of the benefits of giving the old body a minute to breath, pause, set balances, etc.
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antidepressants... nonniedoom and explorers... what a heck ....and caress...
better to invest in  type exploration and growth... please read the book from Briggs-Myers *Gifts Differing* ok it's a bit of older datum.... but it still  relevant for our developments !!! ..combine it with *wisdom of the enneagram* and no more anti-whatever- needed but all therapsits might become rationalized...

this is it what I thought by myselve... we musn't blame outwards... but have to go and look inwardsly .... it's so easy...you will find a wonderful-beautiful person but distored since childhood... this was C.G.Jung writing about neurotics... only a distorsion from youth on... and it's all about our own duty to get *re-knitted* to our true selfs and types... so far so long dearest compadres... go and make a good job on *your self* ....this was an invitation


and then ok use amino acids, fatty acids,vits and minerals like magnesium at your ease... but please... never touch those chemicals again... the only truth here is: dependancy.... that's all it provokes...
and enormeous incomes for the providers...


btw... the creamy topic still of those is: the Don Miguel Ruiz programs with his 5 sentences... nicely to be implemented in our daily lives... once really integrated and adopted...what a releaf and change!!!

http://www.ruiz.com or even better http://www.ruizacademy.org??) something similar ...


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Yea, the issue often is not biological. A typical quiz asks:

"Which is the most important sex organ?"

The write answer is, "the mind."

If you find no biological causes, allow mind to run wildly in all directions so that the blood flow to the vslued organ is tremendous!



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Tribulus Terrestris will raise testosterone and probably stimulate your libido.  But you didn't report that your testosterone is low....


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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