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PCUK-Positive
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Lokking ffor some ideas on using blackstrapp molasses in toffee.

usually the recipe uses brown sugar, molasses water and vinegar.

the vinegar is used to help crystallise the sugar.

i won't be using vinegar but wondered if lemon juice would do the job as it's acidic at that stage.

also why not just add black-strap molasses to water and add lemon and forget the sugar.

thoughts?


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Here's a bunch of different molasses candy (toffee) recipes but I don't see any without sugar. I
see some have added butter....but all seem to use sugar.  Not sure if blackstrap molasses is going
to taste bitter tasting without the addition of some sugar.  Not sure you need vinegar or lemon juice.

Check out these recipes

http://www.vintagerecipes.net/recipes/desserts/candy/molasses_candy/


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Gatherer Rh+, NN, (lewis a+ b-) [Duffy Fy(a+b+) ]
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I was going to use ghee instead of butter too.


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I never made toffee, but when my son was small, I made all kinds of uncooked candies using only blackstrap molasses as the sweetener.  If a person likes the taste of it, as I do, no other sugar is needed.



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Quoted from PCUK-Positive

the vinegar is used to help crystallise the sugar.

i won't be using vinegar but wondered if lemon juice would do the job as it's acidic at that stage.

also why not just add black-strap molasses to water and add lemon and forget the sugar.

thoughts?
Quoted from Victoria
I never made toffee, but when my son was small, I made all kinds of uncooked candies using only blackstrap molasses as the sweetener.  If a person likes the taste of it, as I do, no other sugar is needed.


Since Vinegar is a dilute solution of acetic acid and Lemon juice a dilute solution of citric acid I would think  they would be interchangeable. The volumes used may need a little trial and error.

Actually recipes #2 and #3 in Chloe's link (Thanks for that) do not use sugar. I would think that for the true molasses lover none would be needed but otherwise it would soften the impact a little. What comes to my mind here is applesauce where sugar takes a bit of the edge off the taste.

Anyway this looks like a very interesting idea. I have a little trouble thinking of toffee or candy without sugar, or at least sugar in some quantity, but maybe molasses can provide a relatively healthy sort of treat.





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I was looking up blackstrap molasses and found this bizarre article... what do you all think?

http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/sugars-and-other-sweeteners/blackstrap-molasses-super-junk-food.html
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Quoted from BluesSinger
I was looking up blackstrap molasses and found this bizarre article... what do you all think?

http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/sugars-and-other-sweeteners/blackstrap-molasses-super-junk-food.html


Hmmmm. Here is someone who won't be sampling the toffee.
Thing is it is a natural sweetener with some content. Check out the minerals in the box -center, about two thirds of the way down.

Molasses - Nutrition profile

Better than empty calories, IMHO.





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Gatherer Rh+, NN, (lewis a+ b-) [Duffy Fy(a+b+) ]
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I think to get an idea of where this raw food site is coming from you have to look deeper. They think Meat is Bad for all... yet humanity has survived on and benefited from it for a very long time.

They are saying everything that seems healthy is dangerous, even fermented foods.

They also love food combining, which is cool for some but not so great if you have blood sugar issues.

I probably don't even need to get into their advertising..... Lazy, greedy people i would imagine, probably friends of the natural news and Dr melancholy

They take everything to extreme, so their own diet is not working for them. Probably Blood type O and not eating meat

generally whilst i appreciate the thought of providing this link, I'll stick with Dr D, Dr D things fermented food and blackstrap molasses is okay for some, including me. then i stick with Swami.


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The author's bookshelf:

http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/science

The science falls apart under the one-size-fits-all umbrella. While the author's version of dietary purity may very well work for some, it will simply not work for most. Not in the long term. By not accepting this reality, the raw eating community places itself closer to faith than science, and their message closer to extremism than reason.

I know only one raw-eater, most likely type O. He's in his early 20’s, painfully thin, sunken eyes, completely drained of vitality. His smile looks more like he's about to cry.  He recently asked me "how can you bear to eat slaughtered animals for your own pleasure?"  I responded "how can you compromise your health for your own belief system?"

For the record, I tried veganism once. After a year, I was sick and depressed. One night a piece of fish gave instant relief and that was the end of that.




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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
I was going to use ghee instead of butter too.


Oh yummo - I have wanted some toffee for ages! Let me know when you successfully cut it into squares  


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