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Why is it I can hardly eat them anymore, and especially on an empty stomach, making me ill afterwards?   these are the water packed kind  in tin with skin, entrails and bones. We still get them fresh frozen at the market but when I tried 6 months ago eating those....same thing....too strong for my digestion


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I used to love them when I was a child, but I have had a hard time trying to adjust to them now. Last week I decided I was going to concoct something that would at least not smell so terrible and be fairly palatable. I used the sardines packed in water and after rinsing and draining added rice bran oil, herbs such as cilantro, etc., 1/2 teaspoon mayo, sea salt, garlic and crumbled sweet potato chips. It actually smelled pretty good and tasted better than I expected. The reason I added the chips was to cover the texture of bones in the mix.   The next time I will add celery. I think onion would work well, but I'm off onions for a while. And best of all, they "sat" very well on my stomach!


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I read once that "sardine" is a generic term for many types of small fish.  I have noticed they seem to change size from one year to the next, so they may be a different species.  I've about reached the point where I can't eat them any more.
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I never could get the whole ones with the skin and bones past my nose.  I know the skinless and boneless ones are not as healthful for us, but something you can stand to eat is much better than something that you absolutely cannot eat under any conditions!  

Until my new SWAMI I was mixing a can of skinless, boneless sardines with about 2 1/2 oz. goat chevre, a generous amount of finely chopped sweet onion, some wheat free organic tamari and chopped roasted red peppers.  On RyVita crisp bread it was sort of OK.  Stuffed into the medium size bella mushrooms and baked for 20 minutes it was really good.  

Now I can't have the goat cheese anymore, so it is even more of a challenge.  I don't know why goat meat is a diamond for me but goat milk anything is now a flat out avoid.  Not wanting to argue with SWAMI, just venting frustration.  


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Hmmmm....!  
And I can't eat canned salmon anymore. It does the same thing. Has to be fresh.


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Only sockeye is a superfood for me, and I don't particularly like it.


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Well we got some nice canned sardines from  Vital Choice

https://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=223

recommended by someone on this board and they  have been giving me acid indigestion.  I mix them with rice flour, eggs, salt, green pepper, and maybe some cayenne and fry them as patties.  

i haven't tired them in a couple of months but now that my tummy is healed more, I may give it another go...

love these.
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I suppose I could give their sockeye a try. It would be great to actually enjoy salmon again.


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Quoted from BluesSinger
Well we got some nice canned sardines from  Vital Choice

https://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=223

recommended by someone on this board and they  have been giving me acid indigestion.  I mix them with rice flour, eggs, salt, green pepper, and maybe some cayenne and fry them as patties.  

i haven't tired them in a couple of months but now that my tummy is healed more, I may give it another go...

love these.


It was probably me who recommended them.  I love their canned sardine fillets.  
I have a very sensitive digestion and get acid indigestion very easily.  If I ate the recipe you use, I would be in pain.  I can't combine grains with meat or fish because they cause heartburn for me.  Also bell pepper can give me indigestion.  All mixed together?  



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I tried sardines a few times after starting all the D'Adamo diets and each time I felt yucky after eating them.  Not sure why.  Which to me is kind of strange because it's the only fish I ever met that I didn't seem to like.  I eat canned tuna and salmon with no problems.


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Those with SWAMI's, check your Geno Harmonic section for sardines to see what you can combine with them for maximum effect.
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Those with SWAMI's, check your Geno Harmonic section for sardines to see what you can combine with them for maximum effect.


excellent idea!  we can't eat black pepper but green is soft and very nice.  i have eaten other canned sardines in olive oil with this recipe and never gotten acid indigestion.  so i think it might be their oil.
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I knew it! Just imagine chocolate and sardines!!   Maybe some molasses would hide some of that smell/flavor. Dennis the Menace said that he could eat anything as long as it had catsup on it so maybe some of these crazy combos would work even for the taste buds! I suppose sorghum would classify as molasses, right? Nice, strong flavor, for sure! Or stir in some chocolate and pile it on those ol' smelly sardines! I gotta try this!! Maybe Dennis was right after all except we need other ingredients....


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I knew it! Just imagine chocolate and sardines!!   Maybe some molasses would hide some of that smell/flavor. Dennis the Menace said that he could eat anything as long as it had catsup on it so maybe some of these crazy combos would work even for the taste buds! I suppose sorghum would classify as molasses, right? Nice, strong flavor, for sure! Or stir in some chocolate and pile it on those ol' smelly sardines! I gotta try this!! Maybe Dennis was right after all except we need other ingredients....


YEPPER!  I've had the same reaction to most of the suggested food combinations listed toward the end of my SWAMI report also.  My combinations list doesn't include sardines, but is really big on anchovies and also bok choy as being geno harmonic with about 3/4 of the things featured.  One of my favorites is "cranberry juice with anchovies, horseradish, white wine, bok choy and pumpkin flowers"............." --- actually that's one of the better ones.  

However - TO BE FAIR - AND SERIOUSLY:  Almost all the foods listed as initial items on that combinations list are not diamonds.  So I'm guessing that the specifically listed combinations of selected non diamond foods become diamond-like in your body.  At least, the one day I actually did make a meal using that list, I admit I felt really good.  I Just have so many diamonds that we really like that I haven't spent hardly any time figuring a menu using the other things that could be combined for maximum benefit.  


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I knew it! Just imagine chocolate and sardines!!   Maybe some molasses would hide some of that smell/flavor. Dennis the Menace said that he could eat anything as long as it had catsup on it so maybe some of these crazy combos would work even for the taste buds! I suppose sorghum would classify as molasses, right? Nice, strong flavor, for sure! Or stir in some chocolate and pile it on those ol' smelly sardines! I gotta try this!! Maybe Dennis was right after all except we need other ingredients....


With me it's simply sardines (Bela brand with olive oil) ◊, some lemon juice ◊, homemade curry powder super, homemade flax crackers ◊, and some red wine ◊.  All very Geno Harmonic, very diamond, no chocolate silliness involved, and no stomach issues afterwards.
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See? The lemon juice and red wine would be out for me. Both of them feel like they are burning a hole in my stomach!  I could deal with the curry and flax crackers, though.

Ginny, I absolutely adore bok choy but have never even gotten a glimpse of any that was organic. And it, along with other greens, are on the "dirty" list now. I wonder if the stuff is hard to grow? And, yes, the combinations, neutral or not, give a very special whallop that I've learned too.


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Spring, do you have any other citrus on your SWAMI that would work?  Do you get white wine or beer?
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Ginny, I absolutely adore bok choy but have never even gotten a glimpse of any that was organic. And it, along with other greens, are on the "dirty" list now. I wonder if the stuff is hard to grow? And, yes, the combinations, neutral or not, give a very special whallop that I've learned too.


Our Kroger store always used to carry organic bok choy.  UNTIL now when I have my new SWAMI.  They've switched to the pesticide laden kind now.  Maybe they will get some organic in again.  I don't get to town often enough to keep track of what they have from day to day.  Drat.  



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Can you list any other brands that are good & real sardines?  We can get King Oscar & they are considered a good brand.  But I also have heard that many 'sardines' are not real, so we may get some avoids without realing it.


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I think the brand Victoria had mentioned would be good. But otherwise some of the most expensive I have tried are the worst. They must be packaged for really dyed-in-the-wool sardine fans. I finally settled, for now, on Crown Prince skinless & boneless in olive oil - but I do thoroughly drain them. They are wild caught.  I've also tried the water version with the whole caboodle of bones and "insides" that I used in the recipe I mentioned, and I could deal with that.


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Spring, do you have any other citrus on your SWAMI that would work?  Do you get white wine or beer?


Yes, I can have grapefruit, but it is a big NO too, for now. I have tried it over and over again to see if I could tolerate it - maybe someday I can because I really like it and lemon too. Can't have beer. White wine is a neutral, but it has the same effect as the citrus. Corn played a big part in messing up my esophagus, and my doctor said I had scar tissue - that may be a big reason why I can't tolerate these things, and it may never get better. I keep hoping, though.


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I think the brand Victoria had mentioned would be good. But otherwise some of the most expensive I have tried are the worst. They must be packaged for really dyed-in-the-wool sardine fans.


I even thoroughly drain those good Vital Choice ones packed in organic extra virgin olive oil, and add my own olive oil.  Not sure why, just seems to be better in my system.

Sardines packed in water taste more tough to me.  



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I even thoroughly drain those good Vital Choice ones packed in organic extra virgin olive oil, and add my own olive oil.  Not sure why, just seems to be better in my system.

Sardines packed in water taste more tough to me.  


Taste? Do they actually have much of a taste? A good one, that is!   Other than being watery! I think their tastelessness was the reason I could tolerate them, as long as I added a lot of other things to the mix.

Yes, I had the urge to drain all the olive oil, too, for some reason. But I am serious about trying the molasses and chocolate with sardines. Dr. D. must have something going for the combination!


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Yes, I can have grapefruit, but it is a big NO too, for now. I have tried it over and over again to see if I could tolerate it - maybe someday I can because I really like it and lemon too. Can't have beer. White wine is a neutral, but it has the same effect as the citrus. Corn played a big part in messing up my esophagus, and my doctor said I had scar tissue - that may be a big reason why I can't tolerate these things, and it may never get better. I keep hoping, though.


Too acidic for your stomach?  Lemons were doing that to me, but not grapefruit.  We haven't had any good grapefruit around here lately though.  I'm totally missing it.  

What's the "dirty" list?  What foods DON'T make that list.  It's like it's all bad.  Grrrrrrr......


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What's the "dirty" list?  What foods DON'T make that list.  It's like it's all bad.  Grrrrrrr......


Here is a thread on it. Some crops suffer more than others in mass production.

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