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san j
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How do Bs deal with pain?
Do any Bs use special tricks for analgesia - like mindgames or something?
I'd like to be reminded of these, see them all in one place if possible.


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I have a very high pain limit (? ) - I often first fell pain when it is very bad....

I tend to be able to daydream and deal with that a lot
IF headache I try first to drink a glass of water- get some fresh air- relax/ meditate before reaching for paracetamol ( only painkiller that I can take)


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In the book on water it said drink a glass three times 10 minutes apart..

another said taking magnesium helps,  

for me it's coffee. avoid.. but better than a pill..


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How do Bs deal with pain?
Do any Bs use special tricks for analgesia - like mindgames or something?
I'd like to be reminded of these, see them all in one place if possible.
I take calcium, magnesium and Glucosmine chondroitin MSM works for me

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Paracetamol or Solpadol work for me. Also deep breathing and visualisation.  
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There are several ways I learned to deal with pain. In college I was hypnotized and found it interesting so I studied a bit of self hypnosis. I also learned some about chi and chi kung  in college and after wards that helped me to focus relaxation and if needed numbness where needed. Yoga later didn't hurt, relaxed and flexible muscles hurt less. Then there was a book on myotherapy by Bonnie Prudden.
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I think "self-hypnosis" is helpful as an adjunct modality, i.e., it works enormously well coupled with something else, and I'm passably good at it, I guess.
I'm not sure, however, if "self-hypnosis" as I've used it wouldn't actually be better termed "Distraction".

The "daydreaming" that Henriette uses could also be called "distraction", if I'm not mistaken, and, for me, it's no more effective than other means - internet surfing, reading, a movie, conversation, sedentary work.

Ultimately most pain relief boils down to one form or other of distraction, though, right? I mean, even some types of chemical analgesia serve to distract one's attention/consciousness from the "Pain" neurotransmission. Temperature-methods (heating pads, warm baths, ice packs) are distractors, too. "Biting the bullet" is the classic distraction tactic.

But there's a calibre of pain that is not (as) treatable that way.  
One type of pain requires absolute immobility. It works but...ain't practical...
Sometimes you need something that'll blot it out.

I was just wondering if anyone had come up with cool mechanisms.

I'll share with y'all one I've used.
When I was in the hospital last year, I had some kind of problem with my veins and their permeability: When a bolus would be infused, my vein would be very irritated, and it'd hurt pretty darned bad. When my IV catheter would have to be moved or a new one introduced, it'd be far more painful, too, than the norm. Because nurses and phlebotomists were accessing my veins often throughout a given day, this was a problem.
So: This method would work well for children (or anyone) who has a problem with or fear of injections, except at the dentist!
Use gum. A nurse gave me a pack of yummy sugarless gum that you had to chew hard and fast in order to release the flavor and the amazing juiciness. You'd really focus on it, you know, to elicit the very pleasant flavor and liquidness.
So, whenever it was time for an injection or a blood-draw or a bolus or an IV adjustment, I'd grab a fresh stick of that particular gum and start chompin' - really concentrate on evoking its flavor -  then give the go-ahead signal to the nurse...worked like a charm, every time. Darned near erased/blocked all the pain. Barely -if at all- noticed the procedures!
Music -pleasant or noxious- can be manipulated vis-à-vis pain, too.

I'm open to learning what folks have used...


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Very interesting San J


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Very interesting San J

The Gum Method?



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DL-phenylalanine might be an option (not for me...makes me a little hyper ) )
and I use tens technique instead ...then I know higher intake of calcium&magnesium can reduce pains (orthomolec. amounts) as well  
autogenic trainings does the trick for me too....


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I know higher intake of calcium&magnesium can reduce pains (orthomolec. amounts) as well  

Have always had Mg in my arsenal. It tends to be particularly good for pain that is
-spastic: A muscle in spasm, as in sprain
-due to an excited/irritated nerve, such as in toothache.  
If you use it in these cases, you're targeting it well and should experience some softening of your pain's "edge".
Do tell us about autogenic trainings. At least by that name, I'm not familiar with it? Thanks!



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perhaps can you google it about autogenic training from Dr. Schulze?!...If not ther's only infos in german language here...sorry


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Quoted from Goldie
In the book on water it said drink a glass three times 10 minutes apart..

another said taking magnesium helps,  

for me it's coffee. avoid.. but better than a pill..


Goldie Darling coffee is not better than a pil it's just another form of pill. that creates headaches because of caffeine addiction.

stop eating avoids and you will avoid pain. I only get pain of i eat avoids and i never use anything for pain other than Dr D's Bromelian and deflect.


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stop eating avoids and you will avoid pain.

I'll pass that along to the Sports doctors and Obstetricians - and Emergency Medical Techs and Orthopedic surgeons and Heart Surgeons and...



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