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Tahnastasia
Tuesday, October 29, 2013, 9:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi lovely people!

I just completed my Swami yesterday, did the measurements etc and hope (fingers crossed) that my answers were accurate. My Swami has me as 37% Warrior, which doesn't feel very convincing to me, so I want to check it actually is correct. (The GTD book has me as a Teachere or Explorer based on my measurements.)

The one field I really couldn't answer was around Caffeine Sensitivity, since I've never drunk a single cup of coffee or tea in my life. (Yep, it's true!)So I have NO IDEA how to answer the caffeine sensitivity question on Swami.

I ticked "No, not caffeine sensitive" just to get a print out. But then I got a shock when Swami made me only 37% Wsarrior and said that my Caffeine Sensitivity was one of the main factors it took into account in the strength testing...

This is a worry given I'm not sure if I'm lactose intolerant either and it seems to have given weight to that too. It doesn't seem to have taken into account hardly any of my measurements (fingers, torso, legs, fingerprints, headshape etc) which I feel are more objective factors, and has given me such a low percentage, that I wonder if I changed my caffeine answer, would it spit me out as a different genotype completely?

Am going to ask them to unlock my Swami and change my cafffeine answer and see how it affects my printout.

Just wondering if anyone else out there has been in a situation like this where they are very low percentage in their genotype and were worried that a single uncertain field like Caffeine or Lactose might have affected the outcome?

Is it a problem to only be 37% of your genotype?

Thanks!
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I just completed my Swami yesterday, did the measurements etc and hope (fingers crossed) that my answers were accurate. My Swami has me as 37% Warrior, which doesn't feel very convincing to me, so I want to check it actually is correct.

Congratulations...

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Is it a problem to only be 37% of your genotype?

No.  It does mean that you are closer to the bubble.  It really doesn't matter what the Genotype label is, though, as SWAMI blends your diet for you based on the measurements and data that you put in...  If you find that some of the data is incorrect, you should ask for it to be corrected to get the most accurate output that you can.  Don't hesitate to start using the data you have, however, as it is generally far better than eating "everything".


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Thanks Joe! The diet Swami printed out for me is actually very close to how I've always liked to eat when I wasn't on some kind of "program" or other!

To be such a good fit, it must be be taking in lots of other things, not just my (obviously tenuous) genotype.

I was concerned if my caffeine sensitivity answer influenced it too much though, since I basically just flipped a coin when I filled it in, and since the Swami said it had factored it in on the first pass. I guess the only way to clear this up is get some kind of caffeine sensitivity test done and then enter that result into swami and se if it comes up with a different genotype or different foods. I'm going to look into it and see if such a test exists.

(I can't just do the "drink a cup of cofee before bed" test, as I'd probably get a huge shock from it even if I'm not caffeine sensitive, given I've never even tasted coffee in 40 years!)

Thanks for replying so quickly! Am curious what others think too...

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What about really dark chocolate (85%) at night, strong cocoa  or a few cups of tea in the evening, if you are sensitive maybe you would feel it then?
Ticking yes to caffeine sensitive changed my son from warrior to explorer but yours may not be.  I have changed locked fields a number of times & the support is fantastic & fast.
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The diet Swami printed out for me is actually very close to how I've always liked to eat when I wasn't on some kind of "program" or other!


That's mostly what mine was except for taking out all of the highly damaging lectin containing foods that had been part of my diet for many years...

There are so many datapoints in SWAMI that one error doesn't usually make a huge difference, although in rare cases it does...


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What about really dark chocolate (85%) at night, strong cocoa  or a few cups of tea in the evening, if you are sensitive maybe you would feel it then?


Can anyone actually drink several cups of tea in the evening and feel no stimulation at all?  What about coffee?  Are there those of you out there who can drink coffee at night and not get a buzz?  



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What about really dark chocolate (85%) at night, strong cocoa  or a few cups of tea in the evening, if you are sensitive maybe you would feel it then?
Ticking yes to caffeine sensitive changed my son from warrior to explorer but yours may not be.  I have changed locked fields a number of times & the support is fantastic & fast.


Hmmmmm that is a good questions. I've never drunk tea or coffee in my life, so don't know how tea would affect me. But your chocolate question is a good one. If I do eat chocolate it's always 85%, and yes I have learend over the years to eat that earlier in the day as I do find it quite stimulating.

Hmmmmmm that has made things very interesting! Maybe I should go on an 85% chocolate binge one night and see what happens

PS wow amazing that changing you answer to that question switched your son from warrior to exlorer... Was he a low percentage warrior? I'm asking them to unlock my swami so I can see what happens if I tick caffeine sensitive... Maybe it will change mine too... We will see!

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I can have green tea & chocolate anytime but i wouldn't risk coffee in the afternoon. My explorer son was about the same percentage warrior as explorer, about 40 something.  He has these:

The six GenoTypes described by Dr. D'Adamo are very broad characterizations; no individual is purely one GenoType. Since many of the GenoType characteristics overlap, most people will have aspects of at least two or more GenoTypes. However SWAMI Xpress uses powerful statistical tools to calculate which single GenoType best captures the highest degree of your unique variation.

Your results: 42 % of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT4 Explorer profile.

Interpretation: Good Association with GT4 Explorer

There is significant degree of your epigenetic variation encapsulated within this GenoType. Following the guidelines for this GenoType should have a beneficial dietary effect on healthy genetic expression

The Explorer Inventory

Calculator Points:
Torso to Leg Ratio /Characteristic of Explorer.
Your upper leg longer than your lower leg.
Your ABO blood type (A) is often found in Explorer GenoTypes.
Non-secretor status is a strong marker for Explorer GenoType.
Strength Testing, First Pass
GT4 Questionnaire points awarded /Characteristic of Explorer.
Incisor shoveling /Characteristic of Explorer.
Index finger ridge pattern asymmetry /Characteristic of Explorer.
Narrow gonial angle /Characteristic of Explorer.
PROP super taster /Characteristic of Explorer.
Strength Testing, Second Pass
MBI EI(I) Attitude suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Explorer.
MBI SN(N) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Explorer.
Parameter suggestive of GenoType (wrist circumference) /Characteristic of Explorer.
Ridge patterns asymmetrical to blood group /Characteristic of Explorer.

Although there may be an error in the data because we entered "slight taster" and as above this says "super taster" which he is not.
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Victoria, my husband (O+ Hunter) will fall asleep on the couch after drinking coffee at night.  He shouldn't be drinking coffee at all and he usually falls asleep on the couch regardless of what he eats or drinks. lol



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Victoria, my husband (O+ Hunter) will fall asleep on the couch after drinking coffee at night.  He shouldn't be drinking coffee at all and he usually falls asleep on the couch regardless of what he eats or drinks. lol


Hahaha that's funny! He definitely sounds like one of those rugged Hunter types! I have a feeling my man is one of those too, as nothing seems to affect him and he loves to hike up mountains and be generally a he man

I'm starting to think I probably should tick Caffeine Sensitive once they unlock it for me, as I've been reading up on it and the questions is really designed to find out if you are a slow acetylator or fast. They just use coffee as the question because most people drink it. I suspect I am a slow acetylator, as the slightest amount of any stimulant or druf is usually alot for me... eg just a sip or two of alcohol and I'm tipsy.

Also, I realised I had measured my jaw incorrectly (did it by myself coz I was too excited to wait till DH woke up in the morning...) and it turns out I have a square jaw, not oval. That and the fact that we have finally determined that my tendons are visible have meant that according to Swami I am definitely NOT a warrior.

I am now either a Teacher or an Explorer depending on whether I enter Secretor or Non-Secretor. I've ordered the secretor test so once that comes in a few weeks all will be clear! Until then, even though my Lewis blood test says I am "most likely" a secretor, I'm leaning towards non-secretor as I have always been super-sensitive to things like light, temperature, noise, pain etc... and they seem to be nonnie traits. And when we musecle-tested it today I came out as a non-secretor. But time and saliva testing will tell for sure!

Until then I guess I'll play with both diets. (Don't think I'll be able to bring myself to eat the Explorer meats though, since I haven't eaten red meat for 30 years...) Yikes!

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Can anyone actually drink several cups of tea in the evening and feel no stimulation at all?  What about coffee?  Are there those of you out there who can drink coffee at night and not get a buzz?  


My son can drink coffee or caffeinated cola at night and it makes him sleepy. If he drinks something with caffeine to swallow his bedtime supplements, he'll generally be too sleepy to brush his teeth afterwards (he usually uses juice.) Coffee in the morning will help him wake up, but at night it doesn't keep him up- it puts him to sleep. I think it stimulates a part of his brain that helps him to "let go and fall asleep"- he often will push himself to stay awake long after he's tired.


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Wow I'm so glad I went down this track! The lovely people at Swami changed my time-locked answer from caffeine insensitive to caffeine sensitive, and now I am definitely an EXPLORER, whether I'm a secretor (43% Explorer) or non-secretor (45% Explorer).

Confirming my secretor/non-secretor status will change a few foods (reactive/receptive) but basically at least now I know I am an Explorer and have a clear enough Swami to get started on.

Yay!!!

Thanks for all your help and replies, wonderful people. Much appreciated!

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Can anyone actually drink several cups of tea in the evening and feel no stimulation at all?  What about coffee?  Are there those of you out there who can drink coffee at night and not get a buzz?  
Several?  Maybe not.  But one cup of tea or coffee after supper and I can still fall asleep fine about two hours later.  But I notice I don't get the same quality sleep as when I don't do that, so the caffeine (or whatever) is probably altering my sleep pattern.



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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I think if you are caffeine sensitive you would know.  Chocolate will do it.  Does your heart rate go up after eating chocolate?  Do you kind of want to jump out of your skin?  Just my opinion, but I think if you don't know--you probably aren't.
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Has anyone ever become more sensitive to coffee as they get older or is that not possible?  if so would you change the swami setting to sensitive?
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On getting sensitive to coffee as we age.

I drank mostly black tea, with coffee now and again.
I don't know if it is just age or because I changed my diet for the better a lot and started drinking green and chamomile tea about 12 years ago
, now I find if I drink black tea late afternoon, or indulge in more than a square of dark chocolate at night it interferes with my getting to sleep.  So I find making 4pm a cut off for the odd black tea is safest.
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