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Esther
Sunday, October 13, 2013, 10:09am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Obviously I have spelled incorrectly.  Anywho  this is an additive it a lot of food items.  Should I be concerned?  It is in Hemp Milk which brand couldn't say.

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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?486

TYPE B:
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Secretor:
AVOID: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins. Metabolic inhibitor.

Non Secretor:
AVOID: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins. Metabolic inhibitor.
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Hemp Milk with Carrageenan:

    Tempt (Living Harvest)
    Pacific Foods (unsweetened original, unsweetened vanilla and chocolate)


Hemp Milk without Carrageenan

Pacific Foods (original and vanilla)


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be very concerned.  I tried not to be concerned and found out from increased body pain and in my joints.. that I needed to avoid all products containing this ingredient.  
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Quoted from C_Sharp
Hemp Milk with Carrageenan:

    Tempt (Living Harvest)
    Pacific Foods (unsweetened original, unsweetened vanilla and chocolate)


Hemp Milk without Carrageenan

Pacific Foods (original and vanilla)


excellent thank you!  does this brand have any other avoids?
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Pacific foods original:

    Hemp Nut Base (Filtered Water, Whole Hemp Nut [Shelled Hemp Seed])
    Brown Rice Syrup
    Disodium Phosphate
    Xanthan Gum
    Calcium Phosphate
    Vitamin A Palmitate
    Vitamin D2
    Riboflavin (B2)
    Vitamin B12

Bluesinger since you follow a SWAMI diet, I do not know what is an avoid for you or not.

Xanthan Gum is probably not good for you, but most people do not react to it as badly as Carrageenan,


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it's all good!  i can have that particular gum... i'm going to check this out!!!! no bad oils either! yay!!!
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Pacific foods vanilla:

    Hemp Nut Base (Filtered Water, Whole Hemp Nut [Shelled Hemp Seed])
    Brown Rice Syrup
    Natural Vanilla with Other Natural Flavors
    Disodium Phosphate
    Xanthan Gum
    Calcium Phosphate
    Vitamin A Palmitate
    Vitamin D2
    Riboflavin (B2)
    Vitamin B12

Has the same issues as the original, but some people would not do well with vanilla.


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This is the issue with a lot of types of non-dairy "milk".  We want to use almond, rice or hemp milk, but there are other ingredients in the packaged products that we don't want to be forced to ingest.  This is why so many of us make our own milks.  

I made almond milk for many years for my daughter and found it to be very easy.  I suspect that hemp milk could also be made at home.  Has anyone reading this post tried making it?  Hemp seeds are sold unhulled, which should be ideal for blending with water and straining.  



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As Victoria noted it is very easy to make your own hemp milk with a blender.

I have done this in the past, but am not currently making hemp milk.

There are also hemp powders that can be mixed with liquids to make beverages.


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Quoted from Victoria

I made almond milk for many years for my daughter and found it to be very easy.  I suspect that hemp milk could also be made at home.  Has anyone reading this post tried making it?  Hemp seeds are sold unhulled, which should be ideal for blending with water and straining.  


For Jazmine, who was asking me for a recipe:

I have not tried making hemp milk, but maybe C_sharp would give directions.

When I made almond milk, I soaked 1 C overnight, strained and rinsed them.  
Then blended very well with 2 C water on high speed.  You can use more water if you want it less rich.

Then I poured the milk through a regular stainless steel strainer to get out most of the pulp.

Finally, I poured the milk through the finest stainless steel strainer and let it sit to drain until it stopped dripping.

That's the basics.  Some people add a date or a small pinch of salt, or flavoring - such as vanilla.  I never used any of those.

Some people drain it through a cheesecloth and press it.  Again, I never used that.  I just left the pulp in the final straining for a long time - 1/2 hour or more

The milk must be kept refrigerated and used within a few days.



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Quoted from Victoria


The milk must be kept refrigerated and used within a few days.


Or...you can put the milk into ice cube trays and freeze them. This is what I do so I can make a larger batch of almond milk at a time without it going rancid before I can use it up. I only use "milk" in my coffee, so this works for me.


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Recipe:

1/4 cup hemp seeds
with 1 cup water in blender for a few minutes.

Optionally add:

A little vanilla, a few dates, or some agave nectar.

Some people would strain through cheesecloth. I do not.


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Well they had one Pacific Foods Original Vanilla left.. I'll try it soon and report back!!!
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I am astonished - I looked at the food base link and found it says Carrageenan is also known as Irish Moss - and it's a Superfood on my Swami - I can't believe it - I thought all those gums and additives were strict no-no's for everyone...Well, you learn something new every day...


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Quoted from walk_the_walk
I am astonished - I looked at the food base link and found it says Carrageenan is also known as Irish Moss - and it's a Superfood on my Swami - I can't believe it - I thought all those gums and additives were strict no-no's for everyone...Well, you learn something new every day...


Check your Carbohydrates lists in SwamiX: Carragenan is listed there.  It is an avoid for me

On the other hand you will find Irish Moss as a natural Sea vegetable under live foods.

Carragenan is extracted from Irish Moss, after cooking it and pressing it and doing who knows what else  to it.  It is not the same as the plant it originates from.  The balance of nutrients in the Irish Moss has been destroyed to obtain the thickening agent Carragen ...

Now, one size fits all research tell us that tests have shown that even Irish Moss seaweed in its natural state causes inflammation.  But according to Dr D'Adamo individualized research my system can utilize the healing properties of this plant and as such it is listed in my SwamiX Live Foods as a Beneficial Food.

http://www.rawbayarea.com/what-is-irish-moss/

Also, there is a whole thread here dedicated to Carragen/Irish Moss issue ...
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1381936462/s-new/






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Cristina - thanks very much for your reply - very helpful!! - The RawBay link was very informative, as was the Dadamo thread

For me, Irish Moss is one of those "not readily available Diamond Superfoods on the list to keep an eye out for" - think I will just cross it through and move on - I have plenty of other Sea Vegetables on Swami, so will go with them instead...

Thanks again


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